Re: Lieberal stooge forges posts to protect War criminals was Re: These Allegations demand a Royal Commission!! Put the Lieberal War Criminals on TRIAL! the Re: THE full text of Andrew Wilkie's maiden speech to Federal Parliament.
fasgnadh
sub-Epsilon moron demonstrated it's ignorance and low IQ:
> On 4/10/2010 12:02 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Oilyy drool can't defend his forgery so he just makes new lies:
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Oily drool resorts to post forgery to hide the facts:
>>>>
>>>> #>>> On 3/10/2010 8:43 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> #
>>>> #>>>> All fair dinkum Aussies consider Wilkie a traitor to the realm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I never posted those words,
>>>
>>> but it's fine by you if *you* forge posts
>>
>> I don't put MY words in your lying mouth,
>> you filthy Lieberal post forger!
>>
>> When I make an accusation I post the evidence:
>
> Technically, called a confession.
No, technically called an accusation, you sub-epsilon idiot.
When people call YOU a brainless cretin, it is not a 'confession'
by them, especially when your ridiculous posts confirm their
accusations about you! B^D
Leave the thinking to the Alphas, Betas, Gammas, Deltas ..all the
people who are better at it than you.
Why do all you gutless fuctards snip and run from the facts you can't
argue with, let alone refute;
>> Oily drool resorts to post forgery to hide the facts:
>>
>> # >>> On 3/10/2010 8:43 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> #
>> # >>>> All fair dinkum Aussies consider Wilkie a traitor to the realm.
>>
>>
>> I never posted those words, the lying lieberals are faking posts
>> just as they faked Weapons of Mass Destruction as a pretext for their
>> War Crimes.
>>
>> Here is what was posted, the truth, before the liars forged their lies:
>> the truth:
>>
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:
>> aus.politics,aus.legal,aus.culture.true-blue,soc.culture.australian
>> Subject: Re: These Allegations demand a Royal Commission!!
>> Put the Lieberal War Criminals on TRIAL! the Re: THE full text of Andrew
>> Wilkie's maiden speech to Federal Parliament.
>> Message-ID: <EmZpo.967$Bv4...@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
>> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:59:35 +1100
>>
>>
>> Oy rool forged some lies, just like Howard:
>> > On 3/10/2010 8:43 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> >> Oily Drool wrote sanctimonious bullshit attempoting a cover up.
>> >> <unsnip his cut and run from the truth>
>> >>> On 3/10/2010 5:31 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> >>>> On 3/10/2010 10:11 AM, corella wrote:
>> >>>>> "Thank you, Mr Speaker.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> May I start by saying I'm intensely proud to stand here
>> >>>>> as the new member for Denison, one of the five
>> >>>>> Tasmanian electorates and the one which hugs the
>> >>>>> eastern side of magnificent Mount Wellington and takes in the
>> >>>>> cities of Hobart and Glenorchy. It's a diverse electorate taking
>> >>>>> in just about every sort of Australian, where someone somewhere
>> >>>>> is affected directly by the work we do in this place. I commit to
>> >>>>> represent each and every one of them to the very best of my
>> >>>>> ability.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Mr Speaker, politics for me is rooted in the 2003
>> >>>>> invasion of Iraq.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At the time I was working in the Office of National
>> >>>>> Assessments. And from where I sat it was clear that
>> >>>>> the Howard Government's official case for war was
>> >>>>> fraudulent – that the weapons of mass destruction argument
>> >>>>> was grossly exaggerated, while the Iraq-al Qaida terrorism
>> >>>>> claim was pure fantasy. The Government was lying about going to
>> >>>>> war and should forever stand condemned for that misconduct.
>>
>> These accusations, that the Howard Governemnt knowingly took
>> Australia into a war of aggression based on LIES about WMD's,
>> resulting in hundreds of thousands of dead men, women and children,
>> Iraqi, American, British and Australian, must be properly weighed
>> by a Royal Commission with a view to establishing those responsible
>> for the alleged War Crimes.
>>
>> Will the Greens and Independents support the first real
>> investigation
>> of the way in which the Lieberals led us into this quagmire, which
>> took resources from the Afghanistan struggle against Al Qaida, the
>> Taliban and the real threat of International Terrorism!
>>
>>
>> >>>>> So I resigned my intelligence post, about a week before
>> >>>>> the invasion,
>> >>>>> and went to the media to explain how the Howard Government had
>> >>>>> consistently spun, skewed, fabricated and cherry-picked the
>> >>>>> intelligence to prop up their case for war. In response the
>> >>>>> Government vilified me, more intent on silencing
>> >>>>> dissent than coming clean.
>>
>> That persecution of one of the most honest and responsible whistle
>> blowers on Government lies and corruption in this nations history
>> was a further disgrace that the Royal Commission should look into.
>>
>> >>>>> If only the architects of the Iraq war, especially those
>> >>>>> who mourned United Nations Special Envoy Sergio
>> >>>>> de Mello who died when the UN's Bagdad compound was bombed,
>> >>>>> had cared as much for every other casualty. Perhaps
>> >>>>> there would have been fewer body bags and coffins.
>> >>>>> But they didn't. The bloodstained pages of history are filled with
>> >>>>> such people: men and women with no understanding of the real
>> >>>>> risks and costs of aggression, or care for the consequences.
>> >>>>> There's no chance of them or any of their loved ones
>> >>>>> lying in the chill desert night air paralysed with fear,
>> >>>>> or being gutted alive by razor-sharp shrapnel, or losing a
>> >>>>>foot or worse from a mine or cluster bomblet, or having the
>> >>>>> flesh burned from their bones as they sit trapped in their blazing
>> >>>>> vehicle.
>>
>> Given the cost in Australian blood, and all the other
>> victims of the
>> Lieberal Government Warmongers, this dark period in our nation's
>> history, where an evil government tried to DUPE the entire nation
>> with it's lies, and to persecute a lone whistleblower in order
>> to suppress the truth, MUST be investigated, finally, fully and the
>> felons brought to justice.
>>
>> >>>>> There were always other ways to deal with the odious
>> >>>>> Saddam Hussein. But The US, UK and Australia raced
>> >>>>> to a war which has killed 5,000 US and Allied troops
>> >>>>> and somewhere between 100,000 and 1.5 million Iraqis.
>> >>>>> Even now 50,000 US troops remain in the country, the violence
>> >>>>> continues and Iraqis keep dying.
>>
>> In the years AFTER the illegal invasion, our only war of aggression
>> against a nation that was NO THREAT to us at any time, the death
>> toll in TexIraq was HIGHER than in the same time period PRIOR to
>> the Invasion.. and that is comparing Howard Blair and
>> Bush's illegal invasion, occupation and mayhem to a MASS
>> MURDERING DICTATOR, in which they come out THE WORSE! 8^o
>>
>> >>>>> We must learn from this and commit to never make the same mistake
>> >>>>> again.
>>
>> We can only do this when the WHOLE TRUTH IS REVEALED!
>>
>> And so we must do more than ensure no repeat.. we MUST
>> have a full accounting of the illegality and war crimes
>> committed.. not by our brave troops, but by the venal,
>> corrupt, lying warmongers of the Liberal Government.
>>
>> The political leaders who LIED our nation into a grubby
>> war, killing hundreds of thousands of victims, including
>> our own precious troops.
>>
>> I urge the current government, all parties, including the one
>> responsible for this crime against humanity, to support the
>> call for a Royal Commission into the tragic destruction of Iraq
>> by corrupt warmongers, seeking control of it's oil reserves.
>>
>> Let no one b e in any doubt.. the current morass in Afghanistan
>> is DIRECTLY linked to the diversion of resources from the Afghan
>> theatre to the misadventure in Iraq:
>>
>> >>>>> Mr Speaker, the focus of Australia's war fighting has shifted from
>> >>>>> Iraq to Afghanistan where the international community, including
>> >>>>> Australia, confronts a dreadful dilemma.
>> >>>>> On the one hand it could walk away from the seemingly inevitable
>> >>>>> disaster that would unfold. Or it
>> >>>>> can stay and fight, as it plans to, in the hope of somehow
>> >>>>> avoiding a different but equally inevitable disaster.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It didn't need to be like this because the defeat of the Taliban
>> >>>>> in 2001 created an unprecedented opportunity.
>> >>>>> But security collapsed when the United States virtually
>> >>>>> withdrew in 2002 to prepare for the invasion of Iraq.
>> >>>>> Much of the promised foreign aid never materialised. And the
>> >>>>> new administration has turned out to be a deeply incompetent
>> >>>>> and corrupt mob with next to no power outside of the capital.
>>
>> The costs of the Iraq War crime can thus be seen to have horrendous
>> consequences which plague us still.
>>
>> Thei government is left CLEANING UP THE MESS made by the Howard Costello
>> Abbott Truss clique of mindless warmongers!
>>
>> >>>>> The one bright spot – that Afghanistan is no longer an exporter of
>> >>>>> Islamic extremism – is dulled by the fact that extremists have
>> >>>>> migrated across the border to nuclear-armed and unstable
>> >>>>> Pakistan. And in any case the global Islamic terrorist
>> >>>>> threat morphed years ago into a global network
>> >>>>> independent of any one leader or safe haven. That we
>> >>>>> must stay in Afghanistan to protect Australia from terrorism is a
>> >>>>> great lie peddled by both the Government and the Opposition.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The only way to turn Afghanistan around now is to immediately
>> >>>>> stabilise the security situation and hastily rebuild the
>> >>>>> governance, infrastructure, services and jobs
>> >>>>> which give people hope and underpin long-term peace.
>> >>>>> But this appears increasingly unachievable because the foreign
>> >>>>> troops which anchor such a solution are now seen by many Afghans
>> >>>>> as the problem. Moreover the resultant nationalism is fuelling
>> >>>>> the rapid Taliban resurgence. In short, there can be no hope of
>> >>>>> enduring peace until foreign troops are withdrawn.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The Government and Opposition seem to think Australia's ongoing
>> >>>>> involvement is somehow a measure of the strength of our
>> >>>>> relationship with the US. The same misplaced
>> >>>>> sentiment explained John Howard's determination to join the
>> >>>>> US invasion of Iraq in 2003. Neither seems to understand
>> >>>>> that Canberra would be at less risk of being taken for
>> >>>>> granted in Washington if sometimes we just said 'no'.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ....
>>
>> The Boat people influx is also a DIRECT RESULT of the ongoing wars
>> in the region, where a resoulution in Afghanistan was lost when the
>> focus shifted to Iraq.. directed there by LIES.
>>
>> The traitors should be investigated, named and brought to account.
>>
>> >>>>> Mr Speaker, Afghanistan also remains a significant
>> >>>>> source of asylum seekers and this is another area
>> >>>>> in which I want to see reform.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My stance has nothing to do with being hard or soft on
>> >>>>> asylum seekers. It is simply to do with meeting
>> >>>>> our obligations as a signatory of the United Nations
>> >>>>> Refugee Convention. And that means doing what we can to
>> >>>>> stabilise source countries like Afghanistan and Iraq to reduce the
>> >>>>> flow of asylum seekers. It means helping countries of first asylum
>> >>>>> like Iran and Pakistan to cope with the millions of refugees they
>> >>>>> host. And it means working effectively with transit countries like
>> >>>>> Indonesia to crack down on the only people who are doing anything
>> >>>>> illegal here – the people smugglers.
>>
>> In other words to STOP the boat people we have to CLEAN UP
>> THE MESS LEFT By Abbott, Howard and the Lieberals who LIED us
>> into war!
>>
>>
>> >>>>> In other words, we need a more sophisticated solution for
>> >>>>> something that is much more complex than border security.
>> >>>>> Offshore processing, the excision of islands,
>> >>>>> and even mandatory detention, need not be
>> >>>>> part of it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> .....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you Mr Speaker."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://gc.nautilus.org/Nautilus/australia/afghanistan/australia-in-afghanistan-economic-aspects
>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://gc.nautilus.org/Nautilus/australia/afghanistan/australia-in-afghanistan-economic-aspects/enh_def.gif/image
>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Billions of your dollars wasted, and what do you get, an influx of
>> >>>>> Afghan asylum seekers.
>>
>> All as a result of some warmongers in the Lieberal Government LYING
>> TO and DUPING the entire nation into a War Crime!
>>
>>
>> From WITHIN the parliament, now safe from the attempts of the
>> Lieberals to silence him, the accuser has set out the war crimes
>> and treason committed by the Lieberal leaders who took us to war based
>> on their KNOWING deceit. A Royal Commission is required to
>> purge us of the shame and ignominy, and o bring the criminals to
>> justice.
>>
>> >>> Who could possibly give any credibility to a political opportunist
>> >>
>> >> The entire Lieberal Party, supporting Phony Tony
>> >>
>> >>> like Wilke,
>> >>
>> >> All fair dinkum Aussies like Wilkie, a brave whistleblower who
>> >> exposed the lies of War Criminals, survived their vicious personal
>> >> attacks and attempts to silence him, and triumphed.. fucking them
>> >> and their chances of forming a rancid government! B^]
>> >>
>> >> Suck it UP,
>> >>
>> >> > who betrayed the trust endowed upon him by the Australian people.
>> >>
>> >> John Howard, when he went to war based on LIES abour WMDs!!!!
>> >
>> > an untrustworthy traitor of the realm
>>
>> Glad you agree. Traitors should hang.
>>
>> >> HE should be held to account for mass murder and crimes
>> >> against humanity.
>> >>
>> >>> He is likely implicit
>> >>
>> >> You have misspelled "illicit"
>>
>> or perhaps you meant implicated.
>>
>> >>
>> >>> He should be tried for treason and incarcerated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Not until a Royal Commission has uncovered the depths of
>> >> his War Crimes and he has been charged.
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"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010
"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"
- SMH 28/9/2010
"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."
- The Australian 28/9/2010
Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABtlI2Wk3Ws
Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvYzLIywCiA
Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5ljcri6Nk
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"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.
Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?
He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!
If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!
If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON
B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[
And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:
Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.
Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
Epsilon
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>
> When people call YOU a brainless cretin, it is not a 'confession'
> by them
When people call YOU a brainless cretin, it's a straight-forward statement
of fact.