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Dec 21, 2012, 10:08:52 PM12/21/12
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Hollywood's culture of murder and death
Flopping Aces
Friday, December 21, 2012
http://floppingaces.net/2012/12/21/hollywoods-culture-of-murder-and-death/
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Flopping Aces
Friday, December 21, 2012
http://floppingaces.net/2012/12/21/hollywoods-culture-of-murder-and-death/
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
nick
Dec 21, 2012, 11:29:49 PM12/21/12
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On Dec 21, 10:08 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
credibility pretty quickly when it's illustrated with a shot from
Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Hollywood's culture of murder and death
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> Flopping Aces
> Friday, December 21, 2012
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> http://floppingaces.net/2012/12/21/hollywoods-culture-of-murder-and-d...
> Hollywood's culture of murder and death
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> Flopping Aces
> Friday, December 21, 2012
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> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
A story about Hollywood's culture of murder and death loses its
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
credibility pretty quickly when it's illustrated with a shot from
Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil.
Tom
Dec 21, 2012, 11:51:31 PM12/21/12
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Tom
trotsky
Dec 22, 2012, 6:46:59 AM12/22/12
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On 12/21/12 9:08 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> Hollywood's culture of murder and death
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> Flopping Aces
> Friday, December 21, 2012
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> http://floppingaces.net/2012/12/21/hollywoods-culture-of-murder-and-death/
Hey Dr. Jai, could you compare and contrast this with Bollywood's
> Hollywood's culture of murder and death
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> Flopping Aces
> Friday, December 21, 2012
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> http://floppingaces.net/2012/12/21/hollywoods-culture-of-murder-and-death/
culture of dancing and gaiety, please?
trotsky
Dec 22, 2012, 6:49:22 AM12/22/12
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Mollywood?
moviePig
Dec 22, 2012, 9:39:03 AM12/22/12
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nick
Dec 22, 2012, 6:49:48 PM12/22/12
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and music videos in his press conference yesterday . . . for what?
Glorifying gun violence? It's not the fault of the gun culture we
have violence in America, it's the fault of the movies, games and
music videos that promote gun culture. I think I get that.
trotsky
Dec 22, 2012, 6:58:41 PM12/22/12
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guns being cool, why should be condemning pop culture acting as if guns
are cool?
FirstPost
Dec 22, 2012, 7:09:03 PM12/22/12
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I was brought up on a farm in north Mississippi until the age of 16.
We were a general farm that grew various crops and raised beef cattle
as well.
Seeing animals slaughtered was something I experienced regularly.
I never was the one that pulled the trigger. I assisted in the
dressing and butchering afterwards.
But witnessing the actual killing of the critters didn't phase me one
bit as I was used to it and therefore not anywhere near as sensitve to
the event as some of my friends from the city.
Several I knew became physically ill when witnessing a steer being
shot between the eyes and dropping.
The constant exposure to something that I witnessed from week to week
admittedly desensitized me to something that people who rarely if ever
witnessed were easily upset over.
And now thanks to technology we have a myriad of video games that the
graphics are getting really close to being indistinguishable between
animated characters and real human beings.
And the most popular games these days are the "first person shooter"
variety.
We have the same video game technology as is used by the military and
law enforcement to train personnel for combat.
Yet so many keep preaching that "it's just a game. There's no way
that just playing a game can possibly desensitize young developing
minds to acts of violence". Or "It's only a movie. Now way that a 10
year old watching snuff movies would be affected by such imagery".
It seems to me that it's just common sense that long term exposure to
violent imagery and storylines would somewhat numb feelings of
compassion and respect for life to some degree. Particularly in the
18 and younger crowd who are still learning right from wrong in the
first place.
FirstPost
Dec 22, 2012, 7:17:51 PM12/22/12
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murder? In fact I don;t recall ever seeing any kind of NRA ad
anywhere that ever said that "guns are cool" in the childish fashion
you refer to.
If you really think that games such as "Grand Theft Auto" are a
reflection of what the NRA stands for then you have your head up your
ass and have no idea as to what the NRA promotes.
The biggest ideology the NRA promotes regarding the younger crowd
focuses more on proper, lawful gun use and safety above anything else.
But then no one really expects you to actually know anything other
than what you have been told by the anti second amendment crowd
anyway.
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Dec 22, 2012, 7:28:59 PM12/22/12
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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
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[ Hollywood's culture of murder and death
Dr. John, I�d say more so than the numbers killed in any
particular movie, it�s more about how those killings are
portrayed.
For example, you list �Kingdom of Heaven� as a top movie
for numbers of people killed. However, the movie was a
fictionalized accounting of the ending of the second
crusades, and the story was much more than the deaths on
screen.
Conversely, movies like Tarantino�s Pulp Fiction
glorified the characters of Travolta and Jackson as hit
men for a gangster, so that even with far less death seen
on screen, the movie was more violent due to that
glorification. Kill Bill could be included here, as well
as Shoot �em Up and others.
The numbers killed in �Saving Private Ryan� were in the
hundreds, yet the film portrayed the violence our
soldiers encountered upon D-Day without the glorification
of that violence.
But films like House of 1000 Corpses and Devil�s Rejects
glorify that violence.
It�s when a film seeks to glorify the violence, like the
new Tarantino film seems to do, that the violence can
teach the wrong message to those viewers not emotionally
equipped to deal with what they are seeing on the screen.
And yes, it can happen with those films that don�t seek
to glorify the killings and violence, but my opinion is
that happens much less often.
My own children(one is 21 and the other 17 now), were
well supervised and limited as to what they were able to
see. Between the wife and I, we moderated their viewing
heavily until we felt they could separate the fiction on
screen from real life. I�d like to say that both of them
are fairly well-adjusted young men now, but I still
observe their behaviour and correct what I feel they are
doing wrong.
- johngalt
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Dr. John, I�d say more so than the numbers killed in any
particular movie, it�s more about how those killings are
portrayed.
For example, you list �Kingdom of Heaven� as a top movie
for numbers of people killed. However, the movie was a
fictionalized accounting of the ending of the second
crusades, and the story was much more than the deaths on
screen.
Conversely, movies like Tarantino�s Pulp Fiction
glorified the characters of Travolta and Jackson as hit
men for a gangster, so that even with far less death seen
on screen, the movie was more violent due to that
glorification. Kill Bill could be included here, as well
as Shoot �em Up and others.
The numbers killed in �Saving Private Ryan� were in the
hundreds, yet the film portrayed the violence our
soldiers encountered upon D-Day without the glorification
of that violence.
But films like House of 1000 Corpses and Devil�s Rejects
glorify that violence.
It�s when a film seeks to glorify the violence, like the
new Tarantino film seems to do, that the violence can
teach the wrong message to those viewers not emotionally
equipped to deal with what they are seeing on the screen.
And yes, it can happen with those films that don�t seek
to glorify the killings and violence, but my opinion is
that happens much less often.
My own children(one is 21 and the other 17 now), were
well supervised and limited as to what they were able to
see. Between the wife and I, we moderated their viewing
heavily until we felt they could separate the fiction on
screen from real life. I�d like to say that both of them
are fairly well-adjusted young men now, but I still
observe their behaviour and correct what I feel they are
doing wrong.
- johngalt
End of forwarded post.
FirstPost
Dec 22, 2012, 7:37:28 PM12/22/12
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:28:59 GMT, use...@mantra.com and/or
Indeed. It should be noted that Hollywood and the gaming industry
both have very plain adviseries on such content letting parents know
that they advise such content be viewed or experienced under the
parents direct supervision.
Today, however, so many parents feel that their time is too precious
to waste on monitoring and mentoring their own children. Thus they
hand them a PSP and a copy of Black Ops and go about their business.
both have very plain adviseries on such content letting parents know
that they advise such content be viewed or experienced under the
parents direct supervision.
Today, however, so many parents feel that their time is too precious
to waste on monitoring and mentoring their own children. Thus they
hand them a PSP and a copy of Black Ops and go about their business.
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nick
Dec 22, 2012, 8:11:42 PM12/22/12
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On Dec 22, 7:17 pm, FirstPost <AIOE_posters_are_all_li...@AIOE.org>
wrote:
The NRA promotes gun sales. Wayne Lapierre is a murderous drooling
ghoul. You're right. Grand Theft Auto doesn't reflect what the NRA
stands for.
wrote:
ghoul. You're right. Grand Theft Auto doesn't reflect what the NRA
stands for.
nick
Dec 22, 2012, 8:34:35 PM12/22/12
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hop and rap. You don't need to be a Ted Nugent level genius to get
the subtext of what the NRA is telling us. "The black guy did it."
trotsky
Dec 23, 2012, 6:17:02 AM12/23/12
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Tom
Dec 23, 2012, 11:38:23 AM12/23/12
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and physical damage than a real gun is a mystery.
Not sure if you've seen this...
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-900216/?t=My+tribute+to+those+lost+in+Newtown
...but a few more of these guys would be great.
The NRA and Wayne La Pierre are nothing more than lobbyists for the
gun manufacturers, not a club for gun owners. I heard a great line on
one of the Sunday morning talk shows by Liz Winstead... the NRA
represents the ak47%.
Tom
Tom
Dec 23, 2012, 11:41:20 AM12/23/12
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On Dec 22, 6:17 pm, FirstPost <AIOE_posters_are_all_li...@AIOE.org>
wrote:
When it stopped serving hunters and gun owners and started lobbying
for gun and ammo manufacturers.
Tom
wrote:
for gun and ammo manufacturers.
Tom
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
Dec 23, 2012, 12:01:44 PM12/23/12
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/24/hurt-letter-christopher-
nolan-sean-penn-warner-bro/
HURT: An open letter to Christopher Nolan,
Sean Penn and Warner Brothers
It is all so perfectly fitting that in the wake of a murderous rampage in
which 70 people are shot �12 fatally, including a 6-year-old girl � and
countless families are sacked with unspeakable grief, you would take the
time to share with us your feelings.
Because, really, at this moment, all that matters to most of us is what a
bunch of smutty purveyors of violent fantasy, half-rate actors and an
industry of sick narcissism is feeling at this moment.
Director Christopher Nolan, speaking on behalf of the cast and crew of
�The Dark Knight Rises,� you told us how much you love going to the movies
and how they are �one of the great American art forms.�
You are devastated that such an �innocent and hopeful place� � here you
are talking about the movie theaters that play your twisted movies � would
be violated in such an �unbearably savage� way. I mean, really, who could
think up such monstrous hatred and nihilistic violence? Umm, have you
watched any of your own movies lately?
And, in the selfless modesty that is the hallmark of an Academy Awards
ceremony, you tell us that your �feelings� about the massacre are so
deeply profound that the mere words of the English language built up over
hundreds of years are simply not up to the task of describing them. Wow.
You do have a gift for fantasy.
But the real clue that you remain shrouded in guilt-free delusion is when
you mention the �senseless tragedy that has befallen the entire Aurora
community.�
Senseless? Really? If by �senseless� you mean carried out almost precisely
from the scripts of your own movies, then, sure, it was �senseless.�
As for you, Sean Penn, you paragon of endless moralizing, we would like to
thank you, too, for underwriting last week�s ultra-violence and real-life
carnage at the movie theater. One of the last scenes that 6-year-old saw
in her precious life was a trailer for your movie.
In the final clip of a trailer filled with orgiastic bloodshed, you have
some classy �actors� with machine guns unload from behind a movie screen
into a crowd seated in a theater, watching a film. Ring a bell, Sean?
Sound familiar?
I realize how busy you are, so loudly and obnoxiously jet-setting around
to save the world, but do you have time to think about what you have done
here? What your life amounts to at this moment?
No, you did not pull the trigger in this case. You did not don the gas
mask. But you were the inspiration, and you are the architects.
Your celebrations of diabolical mayhem and pornographic violence prey on
the fantasies of sick, fragile minds. You insulated them from the painful
reality of bloodshed. You have inspired mass murder. You are the Osama bin
Laden of this travesty.
This, of course, is all legal and has made you a fabulous fortune. But,
never forget, this is who you are. It is what you do. This is your legacy.
When you die, your gravestones should read: Here lie men who created such
horrific, meaningless violence in such realistic scenes that a sicko
carried it out for real and shot 70 people, killing 12, including a
6-year-old girl.
To be fair, you haven�t only inspired murderous rampages. It is true that
you have also entertained. But is the fleetingness of that entertainment
nearly so profound as the terror you inspired here? Will it outlast the
irreversible permanency of 12 deaths, including that of a 6-year-old girl?
Which brings us to Warner Brothers, those titans of decency. You
bankrolled �The Dark Knight Rises� and so many other pointlessly violent
movies that infect feeble minds and bring hatred upon America. You, it is
reported, are feeling really sad about those poor saps who paid to see
your wicked movies � only to have the very scenes come alive and kill them
in the dark, sticky rows between seats of a movie theater.
Out of your �respect� for these people, you declared you would not
announce box-office receipts from this weekend�s snuff film. Instead, you
will count your $150 million in bloody money � privately.
One day, you will meet the original Joker, the inventor of all evil who is
diabolical and depraved so far beyond your furthest, sickest imaginations
and there, in his lair, you will spend the rest of eternity wishing you
had had a little decency back when you had the chance.
Does THIS look like a man with a plan?
http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/dark-knight-4.jpg
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/181779.png
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/160688.jpg
A: Yes it DOES.
Not JUST mistaken, but EVIL.
LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
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KILLS 12 with assault Rifle -- everyone freaks out
KILLS THOUSANDS with foreign policy blunders -- Nobel Peace Prize
FirstPost
Dec 23, 2012, 12:04:56 PM12/23/12
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To be fopr one is to be for the other. Unless you think that the
gunmakers can make a living without the owners and the owners could
own something that no one makes.
Tom
Dec 23, 2012, 12:35:35 PM12/23/12
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On Dec 23, 11:04 am, FirstPost <AIOE_posters_are_all_li...@AIOE.org>
wrote:
You're wrong. La Pierre couldn't care less about you or any other NRA
member. He's the arms makers' lap dog, not yours.
I'm trying to parse your question that's missing a question mark, but
it makes so little sense, I can't.
Tom
wrote:
member. He's the arms makers' lap dog, not yours.
I'm trying to parse your question that's missing a question mark, but
it makes so little sense, I can't.
Tom
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