Fox News...Unfair and Imbalanced....LYING WINGERS BUSTED YET AGAIN
Too_Many_Tools
The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
TMT
Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its
audience, while Fox claims a "production error."
Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett
mentioned that a Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand
Rapids, Michigan had a massive turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling
and waving Palin amidst a throng of fans, Jarrett noted that the
former Republican vice-presidential candidate is "continuing to draw
huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,'' adding that
the images being shown were "some of the pictures just coming in to
us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning."
However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin
campaign rally. In response to the minor uproar that arose after clips
of Jarrett's report hit the Internet, Fox senior vice-president of
news Michael Clemente issued an initial statement saying, "This was a
production error in which the copy editor changed a script and didn't
alert the control room to update the video."
On Thursday afternoon, Fox News issued an on-air apology delivered by
host Jane Skinner:
Yesterday we told you about Sarah Palin kicking off her book tour and
then we spoke to Sean Hannity about an interview that he did with
former Governor Palin. When introducing the segment we showed you
footage of people lining up in Michigan for a book signing that
evening. In the tease before the segment, the tease to commercial, we
told you how those people were already lining up to meet Palin. The
problem is we didn't show you the video we were actually referencing.
Instead we mistakenly aired what's called "file tape" of Sarah Palin.
We didn't mean to mislead anybody in that tease. It was a mistake, and
for that we apologize.
The current mishap comes on the heels of a controversy sparked last
week when footage from a conservative rally held over the summer was
played on "Hannity" during a segment on a more recent rally. During
the clip, host Sean Hannity marveled over the large turnout for a
Washington, DC protest. The Daily Show later pointed out that there
seemed to be some inconsistencies with the video shown on Hannity's
show, namely that the atmospheric conditions seemed to vary from shot
to shot. Hannity later apologized on the air for what he called "an
inadvertent mistake."
Fred B. Brown
with voter recognition in the 2012 election.
"Barack who?"
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RONSERESURPLUS
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
Yes, Yea, Of Course, if it were CNN, MSNBC or so many of the other
'GREATS" in News that would Side with the leftist Dems and that 1 Run
wonder Barack Hussian Obama, you'd be all for it, RIGHT? Funny how
your slant is JUST SO OBVIOUS? New shows do so for ratings good or bad
thats what they do, Fox is Far better than so many others but is still
in it for that! When you start holding the MOOK DEM SUPPORTING ONES
LIKE CNN and MSNBC someone might listen to your complaints? Till then,
well, accept this BOOB AWARD!
RON
Straightarrow
You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
demorat/progressive in congress that told us if they passed that $850
BILLION pork bill unemployment wouldn't go over 8% ?? What about lies
told by the same bunch of thugs that claimed there were THOUSANDS of
jobs saved/created when according to your Messiah himself counting
"saved" jobs is not a fine science?? The money went somewhere !! Where
did the $BILLIONS go?? Anybody want to bet it was ACORN and SEIU?? You
kooks think you can take the spotlight of truth off the crooked
cockroaches running the country now by going after Palin. But,it ain't
working.
Curly Surmudgeon
<RONSERE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 12:29�am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>
>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>
>> TMT
>>
>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm
>> ET
>>
>> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
>> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
>> to charge that the SNIPPED FOR LEFTIST HORSESHIT!
>
>
>
> Barack Hussian Obama, you start holdings good or slant is Far bad that
> then, well, accept the other 'GREATS" in it for rating that 1 Run
> wonder Barack Hussian someone might listen to your complaints? Till
> they do, Fox is JUST SO OBVIOUS? News do so many holding thats what
> were CNN, MSNBC or so for this Far bad than Obama, you still for
> someone might list Dems and MSNBC so many of thers but is BOOB AWARD!
> Yes, Yea, Of Course, if it for so many holdings good or ratings good or
> rating than Obama, your
>
>
> RON
Your writing style improves...
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Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
<hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this thread
is on network television that received a federal license which requires
truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees, broadcasters may
not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are responsible for
deciding what their stations present to the public. The FCC has stated
publicly that “rigging or slanting the news is a most heinous act against
the public interest.” The FCC does act to protect the public interest
where it has received documented evidence of such rigging or slanting."
Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false information
directly causes substantial public harm, and it was foreseeable that
broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.
The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your segue
into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
Dan
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
> to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its
> audience, while Fox claims a "production error."
You can usually estimate, to a reasonable precision, the size of a crowd
by the angle pictures of it are taken.
If you get a wide view and the field of view is filled with people, it
is a large crowd. If the view is such that you can identify individual
people (such as tea bagger events, the felling of the Saddam statue,
etc.), the crowd is very small. When you get a dozen people in the
view, close up, the crowd is under a hundred.
The point of crowd photos is to focus in on the largest view that will
have people filling the view; you rarely ever see news photos that
include more than one edge of the crowd.
Of course, if there are NO photos (pre-Iraq-war demonstrations, for
instance), the crowds are HUGE.
Just an observation.
Dan
Hawke
> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
> demorat/progressive in congress that told us if they passed that $850
> BILLION pork bill unemployment wouldn't go over 8% ?? What about lies
> told by the same bunch of thugs that claimed there were THOUSANDS of
> jobs saved/created when according to your Messiah himself counting
> "saved" jobs is not a fine science?? The money went somewhere !! Where
> did the $BILLIONS go?? Anybody want to bet it was ACORN and SEIU?? You
> kooks think you can take the spotlight of truth off the crooked
> cockroaches running the country now by going after Palin. But,it ain't
> working.
I see a job possibility for you at Fox News. You were able to take a
prediction of the Obama administration regarding future job losses from
the worst recession since the 30s and turn that into "lying". The
economists working for the White House had economic models showing them
that unemployment would probably not go much past eight percent. Time
has passed and it turns out the recession is even worse than expected
and their estimate was off by 2%. You have turned that 2% miss in the
economic forecast into a lie. Like I said, that kind of bullshit
qualifies you for Fox News. I'd put in an application if I was you. You
really know how to turn a mountain into a molehill. Now if you can do
the even harder part, which is making republican blunders look like
successes you'll be working at Fox in no time.
Hawke
Too_Many_Tools
> Deucalion wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> >>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> >>> TMT
>
> >>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> >>> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> >> trivial like forging official Government documents, that would have been OK.
>
> > A lie is a lie and accountability is accountability.
>
> All this does is add more proof that Fox is not a legitimate news
> outlet. It's opinion and propaganda. It's the media arm of the
> republican party. Everything that comes on that network has a goal to
> it, tear down the Democratic party and Democrats in general and do
> everything it can to get republicans elected to public office. The only
> thing that bothers me about what they do is the lying. If they would
> just admit what they are doing it would be okay. But they have to
> pretend they are not pro republican. But what do you expect from an
> outfit filled with conservatives? Lying is a way of life for them so
> that is what they give us.
>
> Hawke- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
If they admitted their bias, I suspect their license would be pulled.
If they keep doing it, it just might be.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> "Dan" <dnada...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:WKDNm.22282$gi1....@newsfe19.iad...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Buerste wrote:
> >> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >>news:nscdg5l5vpj9pe4et...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> >>>>> TMT
>
> >>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> >>>>> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> >>>> trivial like forging official Government documents, that would have
> >>>> been OK.
> >>> A lie is a lie and accountability is accountability.
>
>
> > Well, it is interesting that you give Democrats a pass (sure doesn't
> > appear to be the case in your writing, but, well, you wouldn't LIE, would
> > you?).
>
> > None of the Democrats I know give the Democrats a pass, unlike many of the
> > Republicans I know...
>
> > Did you think [sic] you had a point?
>
> > Dan
>
> I doubt that you've ever met a conservative.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
I know I am not talking to one now.
A REAL conservative would be working overtime fixing the Republican
Party instead of playing the blame game with the winning opposition
Party.
I see few of the wagging winger tongues here pushing for true reform
in the Republican Party.
Palin is a perfect example...let's parade a pair of aging tits around
and see if the old fat white men reach for their Viagra.
Make serious changes and then the American voter will take you
seriously.
Now they are laughing at you...just like I am.
TMT
Strabo
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>
> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this thread
> is on network television that received a federal license which requires
> truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees, broadcasters may
> not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are responsible for
> deciding what their stations present to the public. The FCC has stated
> the public interest.†The FCC does act to protect the public interest
>
> Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
> crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
> knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false information
> directly causes substantial public harm, and it was foreseeable that
> broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.
>
> The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
> could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your segue
> into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
>
What lies?
Too_Many_Tools
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>
> Liberals would like nothing more than to disband ANY voice against their
> agenda. And, they would do anything to achieve those ends. The end
> justifies the means for them.- Hide quoted text -
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Fox is digging their own hole.
I look forward to the dirt caving in on them.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:51:59 -0500, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:03:21 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>news:he6npc$n8c$5...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:19:35 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:he6cqb$c76$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> fafdaf427...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> >>>>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> >>>>>>> TMT
>
> >>>>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36
> >>>>>>> pm ET
>
> >>>>>> something trivial like forging official Government documents, that
> >>>>>> would have been OK.
>
> >>>>> "forged official Government documents" show us where that happened.
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards, Curly
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>>>>> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>> Are you inferring that I implied what you are insinuating?
>
> >>> No, I asked for a reputable cite for your implication that an opposing
> >>> network has "forged official Government documents" Sorry if you don't
> >>> understand it but I don't know how to dumb it down any further.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards, Curly
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>>> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run!
> >>> 2012
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> >>You're saying that I implied "forged official Government documents".
>
> >>im-ply-verb
> >>(used with object), -plied, -plying.1.to indicate or suggest without
> >>being explicitly stated
>
> >>Get back to me when I explicitly state something. Sorry if you don't
> >>understand it but I don't
> >>know how to dumb it down any further.
>
> > You're plenty dumb, but did you have a cite or not?
>
> That Buerste cannot provide a cite is pretty clear evidence that he just
> made up some more bullshit. Have you noticed that he does the Texas Two-
> Step when caught making shit up?
>
> Just like Gummer.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are SO RIGHT Curly.
Considering how alike those two are, I am starting to think they are
related.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>
> > The thing that killed it was that they were told that they'd need to have as
> > many psychotics as FOX has on the air, for balance. But FOX has them all
> > under contract.
>
> So, you, hawkie & cliffie work for Fox?
>
> --
> The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Hey what about me? ;<)
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote in messagenews:PqWdnexsy68rmJXW...@earthlink.com...
>
>
>
> > Ed Huntress wrote:
>
> >> The thing that killed it was that they were told that they'd need to have
> >> as
> >> many psychotics as FOX has on the air, for balance. But FOX has them all
> >> under contract.
>
> > So, you, hawkie & cliffie work for Fox?
>
> sharper. Before you know it, they'll be calling you to do a stand-up comic
> routine. d8-)
>
>
>
> > --
> > The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
>
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
You should see him around electricity.
Everyone around kills fried...kind of like hanging around Bush.
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>
>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this
>> thread is on network television that received a federal license which
>> requires truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees,
>> broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are
>> responsible for deciding what their stations present to the public. The
>> FCC has stated publicly that “rigging or slanting the news is a most
>> heinous act against the public interest.” The FCC does act to protect
>> the public interest where it has received documented evidence of such
>> rigging or slanting."
>>
>> Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
>> crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
>> knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false information
>> directly causes substantial public harm, and it was foreseeable that
>> broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.
>>
>> The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
>> could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your segue
>> into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
>>
>>
> What lies?
Had you asked a rational inquiry I'd spend the time to find cites.
Asking for the obvious garners no such obligation.
Berry Oakley
> I look forward to the dirt caving in on them.
I am still looking forward to your visit,where YOU said you would come
by my house and take my stuff.
YOU however, only really look forward to having your diaper changed.
bobsyo...@yahoo.com
"Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>
>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this thread
>> is on network television that received a federal license which requires
>> truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees, broadcasters may
>> not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are responsible for
>> deciding what their stations present to the public. The FCC has stated
>> against the public interest.” The FCC does act to protect the public
>> slanting."
>>
>> Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
>> crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
>> knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false information
>> directly causes substantial public harm, and it was foreseeable that
>> broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.
>>
>> The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
>> could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your segue
>> into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
>>
Ahhh...... but False News took a case all the way to the Supreme Court, and
successfully defended theier right to lie.
>
> What lies?
We can't educate every doofus who only, occasionally, pulls his head out of
his ass to ask "what's going on"?
RogerN
"News". Would this be because there are so many that know the truth that
they can't get away with a lie? But yet you believe that the early
Christians were able to make up whatever they wanted in a land full of
religious Jewish folk and it would be taken as Gospel truth. Come from the
dark side Luke while there is still time!
RogerN
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> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
> to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its
> audience, while Fox claims a "production error."
>
<snip>
Curly Surmudgeon
Really? Under the Bush court that doesn't surprise me too much but by
living out of the country the past few years I haven't seen it. Got a
pointer?
>> What lies?
>
> We can't educate every doofus who only, occasionally, pulls his head out
> of his ass to ask "what's going on"?
Strabo knows quite well. He is weird but intelligent and quite
knowledgeable of events and news. The possibility of his being unaware
of the lies from Fox "News" is zero.
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:29:22 -0500, Poetic Justice
>
>
>
>
>
> <PoeticJustice@talk-n-dog...com> wrote:
> >Deucalion wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:33:14 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>> >>>news:30ce89b7-0570-4848...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> Liberals would like nothing more than to disband ANY voice against their
> >>> agenda. And, they would do anything to achieve those ends. The end
> >>> justifies the means for them.
>
> >> sometime in the future.
>
> >Liberals do things based on their vision of the their Utopia... they
> >just call it HOPE and CHANGE. So far Obama-topia has been Depression
> >and Unemployment.
>
> Both of which not only began, but escalated, under the previous
> administration. There were many decisions, by both major political
> parties, that got us to where we are now. The question is whether a
> continuation of the same policies that got us to where we are now is
> the solution or do we need to do something different?
>
> IMO, continuation of failed policies is not the answer. Is Obama's
> decision to break the paradigm by doing things different the answer? I
> don't think it is. However, sitting on the sidelines and criticizing,
> while offering no creative solutions, is unproductive. I think that
> he is wrong. I hope that he is right because, if he isn't, we are
> only in the early stages of something that is very dark and ugly.
>
> If that happens, do we blame Obama? Do we blame Bush? Do we blame
> Clinton? Perhaps we blame Regan and the first Bush? How about Ford
> and Carter? I personally would blame them all for being influenced
> (managed?) by the corporate interests who placed priority on short
> term gains while ignoring long term consequences. However, blame is
> not a solution.
>
> What we need right now are people who can think outside the box and
> find unique solutions to a unique situation. Solutions that rebuild
> the middle class. Solutions that solve the complex problems of energy
> dependence, loss of the manufacturing base, protecting the middle and
> lower class from the unfair lending practices of lenders. Practices
> that allow the rich to manipulate the financial markets to steal
> money from those who aren't part of the special group with access to
> insider information.
>
> We need solutions that return to the concept of fiscal responsibility.
> We need solutions that put America first as opposed to the globalist
> agenda that is prevalent today. We need to stop spending untold
> amounts of money interfering in other countries sovereignty. We need
> a paradigm shift from the "me first" philosophy to one where Americans
> care about their fellow citizens and want to help those countrymen who
> are less fortunate. Basically, we need to curb personal greed and
> move towards nationalism. America can only be a benefit to the less
> fortunate in other countries if we are financially, politically, and
> morally strong ourselves. We can't help the third world by joining
> it.
>
> If you think that these are "liberal" concepts, then I'll wear the
> label with pride. I love my country and I care enough about my fellow
> citizens who have suffered many hurts because of political and
> corporate greed enough that I am willing to invest my time trying to
> help them by volunteering my time to programs that help them. That a
> high percentage of Americans cannot afford to buy food during the past
> year is unconscionable.
>
> If you want to join in with those who want to scapegoat others so that
> you can go to bed at night feeling good because you think that your
> group has a patent on the right thing although they can't articulate
> exactly what the right thing is, feel free to do so. However, it
> would be nice if you didn't think that those who don't buy the
> propaganda are evil. It would be even nicer if you realized that you
> only feel that way because you choose to listen to the propaganda from
> one of the political parties that was developed and paid for by
> corporate interests who intend to make a profit by winning you over to
> their side.
>
> To me, right and wrong are such simple concepts I have trouble
> understanding wingers from either side. IMO, they have lost their
> moral compass and have to rely on talking heads to tell them what is
> really right and wrong. Look at the facts and form your own life
> perspective. You don't really need to have someone tell you what you
> should think.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Very well said.
TMT
Gunner Asch
>
>Ahhh...... but False News took a case all the way to the Supreme Court, and
>successfully defended theier right to lie.
You mean NBC actually won a case in SCOTUS?
Cites?
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Strabo
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:43 -0500, "Pepsi...@teranews.com"
> <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>> news:k0WNm.26780$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this
>>>> thread is on network television that received a federal license which
>>>> requires truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees,
>>>> broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are
>>>> responsible for deciding what their stations present to the public.
>>>> most heinous act against the public interest.†The FCC does act to
>>>> protect the public interest where it has received documented evidence
>>>> of such rigging or slanting."
>>>>
>>>> Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
>>>> crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
>>>> knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false
>>>> information directly causes substantial public harm, and it was
>>>> foreseeable that broadcasting the false information would cause such
>>>> harm.
>>>>
>>>> The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
>>>> could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your
>>>> segue into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
>>>>
>>>>
>> Ahhh...... but False News took a case all the way to the Supreme Court,
>> and successfully defended theier right to lie.
>
> Really? Under the Bush court that doesn't surprise me too much but by
> living out of the country the past few years I haven't seen it. Got a
> pointer?
>
>>> What lies?
>> We can't educate every doofus who only, occasionally, pulls his head out
>> of his ass to ask "what's going on"?
>
> Strabo knows quite well. He is weird but intelligent and quite
> knowledgeable of events and news. The possibility of his being unaware
> of the lies from Fox "News" is zero.
>
Just balancing the record.
If you're going to accuse Fox of lying then you need to address those
lies coming from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN. You also need to
occasionally cite some evidence.
Strabo
> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
> news:k0WNm.26780$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this thread
>>> is on network television that received a federal license which requires
>>> truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees, broadcasters may
>>> not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are responsible for
>>> deciding what their stations present to the public. The FCC has stated
>>> against the public interest.†The FCC does act to protect the public
>>> slanting."
>>>
>>> Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
>>> crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
>>> knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false information
>>> directly causes substantial public harm, and it was foreseeable that
>>> broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.
>>>
>>> The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
>>> could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your segue
>>> into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
>>>
>
> Ahhh...... but False News took a case all the way to the Supreme Court, and
> successfully defended theier right to lie.
>
>> What lies?
>
> We can't educate every doofus who only, occasionally, pulls his head out of
> his ass to ask "what's going on"?
>
Understood. However, if you know that Shepard Smith or O'Reilly or some
other Fox presenter told a lie, the rest of use would like to
know what you found.
Curly Surmudgeon
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:43 -0500, "Pepsi...@teranews.com"
>> <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>>> news:k0WNm.26780$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
>>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>>>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>>>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>>>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this
>>>>> thread is on network television that received a federal license
>>>>> which requires truth, not distortion of reality: "As public
>>>>> trustees, broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news.
>>>>> Broadcasters are responsible for deciding what their stations
>>>>> present to the public. The FCC has stated publicly that “rigging or
>>>>> slanting the news is a most heinous act against the public
>>>>> interest.” The FCC does act to protect the public interest where it
I'll trade you. No, I'll trump you by offering to post two Fox "News"
lies for every lie you find on your list above. That certainly gives you
a greater selection and volume to choose by.
--
Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Rudy, Run! 2012
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Sid9
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:43 -0500, "Pepsi...@teranews.com"
>> <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>>> news:k0WNm.26780$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
>>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>>>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>>>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt
>>>>>> sleazebag
>>>>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and
>>>>> this
>>>>> thread is on network television that received a federal license
>>>>> which
>>>>> requires truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees,
>>>>> broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news.
>>>>> Broadcasters are
>>>>> responsible for deciding what their stations present to the
>>>>> public.
>>>>> is a
>>>>> most heinous act against the public interest.” The FCC does
.
FOX is a branch of the Republican Party....the far right branch.
The others you mention are real news sources.
How na�ve to buy into FOX's bullshit!
Strabo
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:46:13 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>
>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:43 -0500, "Pepsi...@teranews.com"
>>> <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:k0WNm.26780$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>>>>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>>>>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>>>>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this
>>>>>> thread is on network television that received a federal license
>>>>>> which requires truth, not distortion of reality: "As public
>>>>>> trustees, broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news.
>>>>>> Broadcasters are responsible for deciding what their stations
>>>>>> slanting the news is a most heinous act against the public
C'mon Curly, quit playing around. This is a critical period. We need
information. If you find something of interest just provide the cite and
don't forget to differentiate between commentary and reportage.
Thanks.
Dan
> don't forget to differentiate between commentary and reportage.
There is no difference between commentary and reportage: if either a
reporter or a commenter lies, it is the same.
Dan
Curly Surmudgeon
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:46:13 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:43 -0500, "Pepsi...@teranews.com"
>>>> <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:k0WNm.26780$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:28 -0800, Straightarrow
>>>>>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
>>>>>>>> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
>>>>>>> HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this
>>>>>>> thread is on network television that received a federal license
>>>>>>> which requires truth, not distortion of reality: "As public
>>>>>>> trustees, broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news.
>>>>>>> Broadcasters are responsible for deciding what their stations
>>>>>>> present to the public. The FCC has stated publicly that “rigging
>>>>>>> or slanting the news is a most heinous act against the public
>>>>>>> interest.” The FCC does act to protect the public interest where
I'm hardly playing. Disinformation has always been a major tool of
dictators and authoritarians. Fox "News" deals in lies on the public
airwaves. That cannot be tolerated nor permitted without rebuke.
You cannot compare any of your list, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN, to Fox
"News" and keep a straight face.
Strabo
Are you having ham or turkey for Thanksgiving?
Lib Loo
Dan
Probably.
Dan
Dan
Yes, you will! Since you've been eating it since your nym appeared
here, how does it taste (since I'll never need to actually taste any)?
Dan
Strabo
Me too.
Lib Loo
"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7bhPm.12366$cX4....@newsfe10.iad...
Tastes good. That's my nickname for your sister!
Harold Burton
<a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video...
So they've begun imitating CBS, etc.
snicker.
Dan
Heh, heh...
Not too bright, are you?
Dan
Dan
Have a happy Thanksgiving Day! Best to you and all of yours!
Dan
Curly Surmudgeon
The only surprise is that he's not after your mother...
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:heku26$dcg$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:55:41 -0800, Dan <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lib Loo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7bhPm.12366$cX4....@newsfe10.iad...
>>>> Lib Loo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Yv4Pm.85$Lq5...@newsfe20.iad...
>>>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>>>> Strabo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> don't forget to differentiate between commentary and reportage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no difference between commentary and reportage: if either
>>>>>>> a reporter or a commenter lies, it is the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Are you having ham or turkey for Thanksgiving?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> crow
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you will! Since you've been eating it since your nym appeared
>>>> here, how does it taste (since I'll never need to actually taste any)?
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Tastes good. That's my nickname for your sister!
>>
>> Heh, heh...
>>
>> Not too bright, are you?
>>
>> Dan
>
> The only surprise is that he's not after your mother...
Why don't you leave Dan's mother out of this? Nobody asked you for your
unsolicited opinion. When Dan needs you to comment about his mother, I'm
sure he will bring her up the way you brought up your crazymother. Until
then, you should consider her off-limits. No go crawl back in your hole.
Siobhan Medeiros
wrote:
Actually, I don't think they made it all the way to the Supreme Court,
just to an Appeals court.
Siobhan Medeiros
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:43 -0500, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto
Siobhan Medeiros
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:55:41 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
> > Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:46:13 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Maybe ABC, whenever they broadcast one of John Stossel's lie-fests.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
Don't know John Stossel. Even if he lies as much as Limbaugh, Hannity,
Coulter, Geraldo, O'Reilly, Beck, Malkin, Hasselbeck, etc., it is still
small potatoes compared to the propaganda arm of the Republican Party,
the network of lies, calling itself "Fox News."
--
Regards, Curly
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HH&C
> "Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
>
> news:heku26$dcg$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:55:41 -0800, Dan <dnada...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Lib Loo wrote:
>
> >>>news:7bhPm.12366$cX4....@newsfe10.iad...
> >>>> Lib Loo wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:Yv4Pm.85$Lq5...@newsfe20.iad...
> >>>>>> Dan wrote:
> >>>>>>> Strabo wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> don't forget to differentiate between commentary and reportage.
>
> >>>>>>> There is no difference between commentary and reportage: if either
> >>>>>>> a reporter or a commenter lies, it is the same.
>
> >>>>>>> Dan
>
> >>>>>> Are you having ham or turkey for Thanksgiving?
>
> >>>>> crow
>
> >>>> Yes, you will! Since you've been eating it since your nym appeared
> >>>> here, how does it taste (since I'll never need to actually taste any)?
>
> >>>> Dan
>
> >>> Tastes good. That's my nickname for your sister!
>
> >> Heh, heh...
>
> >> Not too bright, are you?
>
> >> Dan
>
> > The only surprise is that he's not after your mother...
>
> Why don't you leave Dan's mother out of this? Nobody asked you for your
> unsolicited opinion. When Dan needs you to comment about his mother, I'm
> sure he will bring her up the way you brought up your crazymother. Until
> then, you should consider her off-limits. No go crawl back in your hole.
Interesting how Curly trotted his mother out on the group, then thinks
everyone elses mother is fair game.
HH&C
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:04:00 -0800, Siobhan Medeiros <sbm2...@shaw.ca>
I'm so glad that you aren't an American anymore.
Lib Loo
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c8ee798e-b9cc-4d68...@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>>>>>> that �rigging or slanting the news is a most heinous act
>> >> >>>>>>> against the public interest.� The FCC does act to protect the
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---
>> 2012 Run, Rudy, Run! 2012
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---
>
> I'm so glad that you aren't an American anymore.
He's a putz.
Dan
This from the "guy?" who was after my sister...
As I said: "Not too bright, are you?"
[It is a rhetorical question; look it up.]
Dan
Dan
No, not at all (unless you are going to go back quite a few years).
> snicker.
Again with the misplaced laughter. There are facilities for your type.
Dan
Dan
>>>>>>>>>>> against the public interest.� The FCC does act to protect the
>> 2012 Run, Rudy, Run! 2012
>
> I'm so glad that you aren't an American anymore.
As much as I disagree with his statements, he is far more "American"
than you ever will hope to be.
Dan
Curly Surmudgeon
>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly that “rigging or slanting the news is a most heinous
>>>>>>>>>>>> act against the public interest.” The FCC does act to protect
>> I'm so glad that you aren't an American anymore.
>
> As much as I disagree with his statements, he is far more "American"
> than you ever will hope to be.
>
> Dan
Thank you. Rational discourse and honest dialog to resolve differences
is the American Way. While you and I have intellectual and political
disagreements I do not want to hang you from a lampost or fuck your
(grand)mother for differing opinions.
Healthy debate is good for one and all.
Am I still stalking the cockroach?
--
Regards, Curly
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HH&C
> >>>>>>>>>>> against the public interest.” The FCC does act to protect the
>
> As much as I disagree with his statements, he is far more "American"
> than you ever will hope to be.
>
Now if you would move to Argentina, too...
HH&C
Then waht is running away to Argentina?
Lib Loo
"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vCAPm.82065$gg6....@newsfe25.iad...
Your sister was also your mother? Don't tell Curly!
Lib Loo
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9b150efe-5269-47ff...@z3g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> publicly that �rigging or slanting the news is a most
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> heinous
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> act against the public interest.� The FCC does act to
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------��--->>>
>> 2012 Run, Rudy, Run!
>> >>> 2012
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------��---
>>
>>
>>
>> >> I'm so glad that you aren't an American anymore.
>>
>> > As much as I disagree with his statements, he is far more "American"
>> > than you ever will hope to be.
>>
>> > Dan
>>
>> Thank you. Rational discourse and honest dialog to resolve differences
>> is the American Way.
>
> Then waht is running away to Argentina?
I understood that he left to avoid prosecution for abusing his family
member(s). Did I misunderstand?
Dan
Nope.
Dan
HH&C
> "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> heinous
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> act against the public interest.” The FCC does act to
>
> >> > As much as I disagree with his statements, he is far more "American"
> >> > than you ever will hope to be.
>
> >> > Dan
>
> >> Thank you. Rational discourse and honest dialog to resolve differences
> >> is the American Way.
>
> > Then waht is running away to Argentina?
>
> I understood that he left to avoid prosecution for abusing his family
> member(s). Did I misunderstand?
I hadn't heard that but he does seem to have control issues. And he
did run away.
HH&C
Then you're stuck with how the 2010 and 2012 elections will turn out.
Harold Burton
Dan <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton wrote:
> > In article
> > <a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> > Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
> >>
> >> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
> >>
> >> TMT
> >>
> >> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video...
> >
> >
> >
> > So they've begun imitating CBS, etc.
>
> No, not at all (unless you are going to go back quite a few years).
Yes, at all.
Snicker.
Lib Loo
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:58426a4d-d5fc-423b...@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
You mean the Great Clock Cleaning.
Dan
As are you.
Dan
Dan
That's what WE are hoping, at least!
Dan
Lib Loo
"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:r3hQm.36924$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad...
You will have to wait until the Great Glock Cleaning :)
Gunner Asch
wrote:
After the Great Glock Cleaning..he will be in a mass grave.
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Dan
Yawn.
Dan
Lib Loo
Dan
Thanks, I'll be heading off to bed in a few minutes.
Dan