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Tom Sr.

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May 24, 2013, 8:40:50 AM5/24/13
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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/boy-scouts-recognize-gay-boys-as-equal/276186/

*Boy Scouts Recognize Gay Boys as Equal*
Today the National Council of the Boy Scouts of America
voted to include openly gay boys and young men. Some
fear this will result in "injection of hypersexuality and gay
activism into a youth organization." It won't.
by James Hamblin
May 23, 2013

John Stemberger, head of the conservative evangelical Florida Family
Policy Council, told this morning's New York Times, "Allowing openly
gay scouts will mean the blunt injection of hypersexuality and gay
activism into a youth organization." Stemberger, who does not always
invoke sexual imagery in his speech on the subject, has been
mobilizing activists to "stand strong" against a measure that would
allow gay boys to be Boy Scouts. His site, On My Honor, includes a
Wall of Supporters: Photos of people who fought to the end to keep
openly gay boys out.

Today, if we were to adopt similarly antagonistic terms -- which we
shouldn't, but if we were to -- those people lost. As the president of
the Boys Scouts of America (BSA) Wayne Perry wrote in an op-ed this
morning, "At the BSA's National Annual Meeting today, the 1,400 voting
members of our National Council will vote on a proposed resolution
that would end the restriction on gay youth membership. That's the
right decision for Boy Scouts."

Vote they did, in Grapevine, Texas. Before today, the group's policy
was,"We do not grant membership to individuals who are open or avowed
homosexuals," but that is no longer. The resolution passed with 60
percent approval.

As Perry wrote going in, he supported the measure. He added, though,
"The change to the Boy Scouts of America's membership policy is not
the result of pressure from outside." That's unlikely, since the
decision comes amid some of the most outspoken gay-rights lobbying in
history, including a Supreme Court hearing in 2000.

It's okay -- good, progressive, even -- to hear and respond to outside
pressure. Like when politicians talk about flip-flopping, as if
changing to accommodate an evolving landscape is a negative thing, the
BSA seems to revere notions of a value system that does adapt to
feedback. Everybody benefits from feedback, and people appreciate when
being heard them. Today the BSA recognized norms that are different
from when the organization was founded in 1910 (and when the official
anti-gay policy was signed in 1978).

Of course it's within their rights to limit membership as they see
fit, but when a massive organization that professes values of a good,
moral life but also distances itself from an already oppressed
minority group -- one at higher risk for bullying, depression, and
suicide -- it enters the realm of tangible public health concerns. BSA
is a celebrity in the arena of morality. When it endorses ideals, they
do not manifest in a vacuum.

With regard to seeing this as a half-measure, in that the BSA will
still prohibit gay adult members, Stemberger said, "It was clear from
our listening phase that changing adult standards would have
conflicted with the majority of our partners, 70% of which are
religious organizations, and would have disrupted our ability to
deliver Scouting."

The BSA is totally self-empowered and considerate when they announce a
progressive change, but when they announce continued discrimination
it's because they're under the thumb of influences beyond their
control. Though as Stemberger, who at least owns his stance, notes on
his site, it will only be a matter of time before adoption of this
policy leads to integration of gay adult leaders.

So, this essentially settled, we can soon go back to appreciating the
BSA simply as a time-honored institution that teaches kids and young
men about being good people in the real world. They still don't allow
atheists, but as a religiously-affiliated organization, that's a
separate issue. If anyone is concerned for the fate of the American
boy or the moral landscape of the nation now, they can always look to
how things have turned out for the American girl. Girl Scouts, which
is supported more by corporations and foundations than religious
organizations, has had progressive positions on LGBT issues for
years.
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** Given to someone whose Kookery is judged to have surpassed all
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can concoct.

We hope to return you to more rational posting after this brief,
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leftardia

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"Tom Sr." <thomas.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> *Boy Scouts Recognize Gay Boys as

perverts as soon as they reach the age of 18.

They will be forced to leave and there is nothing the faggots
can do about it.

Tom Sr.

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On May 24, 8:40 am, "Tom Sr." <thomas.swift.sen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> -------------http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/boy-scouts-recogniz...
What I posted.

:D

Harold Burton

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Leftards, batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.


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Leandro Westmoreland

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Real name Fwanklin. Fwanklin is a famous homo. Fwanklin's 15 seconds
of fame came at a Star Trek Convention when he embarrassed the
audience, embarrassed America, embarrassed humanity and embarrassed
Gene Roddenberry by asking why Star Trek didn't have any faggot
characters. Fwanklin, after many beatings, has become just another
cock-slapped usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have been exposed,
frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo monkey who sits in
the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying nothing of value.

Franklin Hummel - born May 1953
18 Linwood St, Unit 3
Boston, Massachusetts 02119-1543
(617) 541-3834
E-mail: hum...@world.std.com
Possible Fag Butt-Buddy: Arnold D Thomas (Age 52)

Franklin Hummel - Supervisor
Boston Public Library
700 Boylston Street
Boston, Massachusetts 02116
(617) 536-5400
(617) 536-3813 Fax
www.bpl.org

[][][][][][]


The DemocRATs Hall Of Shame asks "Why do you always LIE?"

Franklin Hummel - Age 57, born May 1953
18 Linwood St, Unit 3
Boston, Massachusetts 02119-1543
(617) 541-3834
E-mail: hum...@world.std.com
Possible Fag Butt-Buddy: Arnold D Thomas (Age 52)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=18+Linwood+St,+Unit+3+Boston,+Massachusetts+02119&sll=38.625726,-77.266888&sspn=0.012439,0.027637&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=18+Linwood+St+%233,+Boston,+Suffolk,+Massachusetts+02119&ll=42.333835,-71.093152&spn=0,0.027637&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=42.327957,-71.093138&panoid=Kxobhj5KpkZo6MTFIGNnWQ&cbp=12,211.03,,0,11.56

http://tinyurl.com/29eum4d
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Tom Sr., aka "Nappy Tom," hates me:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/09d50ec8e0562fa7?hl=en&dmode=source

Or: http://tinyurl.com/dxzxp9

============================
From: "Tom Sr." <tomswiftsen...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:22:48 -0700 (PDT)

I "hate" you...
============================

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Fraud:

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:41:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank <frankli...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.11
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank <frankli...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.3
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:56:20 -0800 (PST)

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:51:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Frank <frankli...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.4
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank <frankli...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.6
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:09:35 -0800 (PST)

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank <frankli...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.7
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:50:48 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.8
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:19:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Frank <frankli...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.3.101.8
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT)

More Fraud:
Franklin Hummel <frankli...@gmail.com>|72.251.57.174
ah13 <anthon...@yahoo.com>|72.251.57.174

Franklin Hummel <frankli...@gmail.com>|72.251.57.20
anthon...@yahoo.com|72.251.57.20

Franklin Hummel <frankli...@gmail.com>|72.251.57.214
ah13 <anthon...@yahoo.com>|72.251.57.214

Franklin Hummel <frankli...@gmail.com>|72.251.57.51
anthon...@yahoo.com|72.251.57.51

Franklin Hummel <frankli...@gmail.com>|72.251.57.57
anthon...@yahoo.com|72.251.57.57

Franklin Hummel <frankli...@gmail.com>|72.251.57.79
Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>|72.251.57.79

Note: Nappy has tried to remove references to himself from Google as
"Franklin Hummel" but just like a dumbass old fag he screwed that up:

Tom Sr. CAUGHT AS "Franklin Hummel"
=== Begin =================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/49e0a98ae187b0b2?hl=en&dmode=source

http://tinyurl.com/2uydhch

From: "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007

Are you this Franklin Hummel?

"I was falsely charged with sexual harassment where I work at the
start of
January 2004."
"I am 50 years-old gay man."
"I have major depression and anxiety disorder."
http://www.talkaboutpeople.com/group/alt.fan.tom-servo/messages/142696.html

"During a question an answer session, Franklin Hummel, a gay fan,
stood up
and asked Gene if there would be gay characters on the new Star Trek
series."
http://www.gerrold.com/soup/page.htm

"Franklin Hummel and John Dumas from Boston founded the Gaylaxians -
an
organisation for gay, lesbian and bisexual fans of science fiction."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/st/tng/motss.shtml

Now I understand why you were bragging about having your name
mentioned many
tims on the Internet, because you think you're a famous fag!

Hahahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!
Message-ID: <46756ce5$0$17146$4c36...@roadrunner.com>
=== End =================

Tom Sr. SIGNED AS "Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts"
=== Begin =================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/c665165df4c5b746?hl=en&dmode=source

http://tinyurl.com/3yu9brb

From: "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007

On Jun 17, 1:18 pm, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com>
wrote:
> Now I understand why you were bragging about having your name mentioned
> many tims on the Internet, because you think you're a famous fag!
> Hahahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!

While you're still nothing more than a racist, bigot, straight loser,
Patriot Games. You're Usenet posts can't even get more that a 1 out
of 5 in Google Groups.

Ha ha haha haha ha ha ha ha hahaha haha ha hahaha

-- Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts
Message-ID: <1182111670....@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.38.146.32
=== End =================

ORIGINAL "Franklin Hummel" SIGNED as Tom Sr.
=== Begin =================
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2009-11/msg00948.html
From: Frank <franklin.hummel@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:19:43
Subject: Fags In The News - General George Washington HATED Fags In
The Military
[content at url above]
-Tom Sr.
=== End =================

ORIGINAL "Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts"
=== Begin =================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/13ad375a374525d6?hl=en&dmode=source

http://tinyurl.com/2anjj8b

From: "Franklin Hummel" <hum...@world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004
I'm 51.
> Cheers!
Back at you.

-- Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts
Message-ID: <c88mgh$d5h$1...@pcls4.std.com>
=== End =================

<--- Update -------------------->
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Franklin
<frankli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>As for your years of huffing and puffing and ranting and raving in
>your so-called seemingly-endless "Frauds are exposed" posts --
>remember this. you fucking hypocrite???
> ** THE FRAUD PATRIOT GAMES IS EXPOSED!!! **
> Crazy Bastard - crazy_...@yahoo.com
> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=Pw8_fhIAAADdQM5LEjDbpVNoIFu2z-JY8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg

2004: May to November.

Did you NOT notice that I posted a "farewell" at the end of that
period?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/3bb498f8a6cab874?hl=en

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

> Patriot Games - crazy_...@yahoo.com

Did you NOT notice that "crazy_...@yahoo.com" was IDENTICAL to the
PREVIOUS name???

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=EiKk7xcAAADQ8UQawPYpKVIDD9dfdHJlatZc1V3Nc280dLHqonrV6A

2006 November through 2007 May...

> Patriot Games - pat...@america.com
> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=rnFUuBMAAAAx98ToQl1Ygt96eyqtZ70FWMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww

2007 July through Current...

Did you NOT notice that I was ASKED if I was
"crazy_...@yahoo.com"???
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/b9564fde99b25e37?hl=en

"humbubba (Rick Hohensee):
Hey Patriot Games, what's your real name?"

Did you NOT notice that when I was ASKED I immediately acknowledged
that I was "crazy_...@yahoo.com"???
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/598e75e6aeb53e6b?hl=en

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

I have NEVER attempted to deceive anyone, YOU DID!

>You *never* noticed all the times I changed that when quoting you to
>"amerika.com". Fool.

Who cares?

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

>You STILL have a 1-out-of-5 star rating (the *worst* possible) -- with
>48,810 ratings(!!!) -- for your posts, Nazi.

And YOU think those ratings are somehow important, to anyone,
anywhere...

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

>I'm not going to bother with your so-fucking-obvious sockpupper
>"Buster Norris".

Because you can't... I drives you insane that you can't prove we're
the same person... Did it ever occur to you that Buster INTENTIONALLY
created that MISPERCEPTION to TRAP YOU into FALSE CLAIMS???

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

>You're so stupid a moron you constantly post the
>SAME, EXACT MESSAGES as "Patriot Games" AND "Buster Norris".

My former Human Toilet, "SilentNigger," tried that stupid claim and it
failed, you should have been paying attention then.

On my website I have a bunch of posts that can be COPIED and when they
are COPIED (and pasted and posted) they are ALWAYS IDENTICAL...

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

Oh, that reminds me, you really should visit my website and let me
know if you like the icon I made for YOUR file in the Liars section...

>I used the pen name "Tom Swift Sr."

Save your pathetic excuses, faggot explanations, and LIES.

You were CAUGHT LYING. Case CLOSED.

You were CAUGHT FRAUDING. Case CLOSED.

Regarding your being published:
----------------------------------------

Miskatonic University's Gay People's Alliance

"Among the first organizations of higher education for gay, lesbian,
bisexual, transsexual, and queer persons, Miskatonic University's Gay
People's Alliance and Gay Alumni Association were founded in May 1971.
[...] Some of its famous GLBT alumni include Randolph Carter, Robert
Barlow, Herbert West, Asenath Waite, Sutter Kane, R.J. MacReady,
Franklin Hummel, and Scott Davidson."
http://www.cafepress.com/gay_miskatonic

Self-publishing, from a fictional university, does NOT count.

Regarding your other writing:
------------------------------------

Review of Gay Movie - Soulmaid
Franklin Hummel wrote on 03/11/2008:
"THE BAD NEWS The guy who appears on this DVDs cover is NOT the star
of the film. He does not even appear in this film. The actual actor
appears on the back cover. This actor is fairly good-looking and in
decent shape but is very hairy, including having a hairy back (eww).
Now the actual lead actor *is* good in his role, but, well -- of
course, I bought this film *only* for its very interesting and funny
story line, but I felt sadden the people involved in releasing this
DVD chose to have a misleading cover. (There is NO ironing in the film
either!) *THE GOOD NEWS: This is one of the most original and creative
gay films I have *ever* seen! The story is totally off-the-wall in a
very amusing way and I was amazed at how wonderfully weird many parts
of it were. The quality of the filming is average but this is more
than redeemed by the many great inventive visual special effects --
including an animated sequence -- that adds greatly to its overall
appeal. *MORE BAD NEWS: This film is divided into 4 chapters, each of
them often having different people writing and directing them. Sadly,
the last chapter, which was written and directed by one man, is a
let-down from the rest of the film. While the ending was predictable,
it could have been so much better if it had the fresh feel and energy
of the first 3 chapters. Also of Bad News in there are NO Extras at
all on the DVD. This most certainly was a film that deserved Extras,
especially any Deleted Scenes, Outtakes, and most of all a Making Of,
if only to find out how the heck the idea for this film happened! But
none of these are there. *MORE GOOD NEWS: This is a film most
definitely worth watching, particularly if you are a bit nicely weird
yourself. It is also a movie worth owning (despite the disappointing
discovery the guy on the DVD's cover is only that). I suspect it will
be quite some time before as different, silly, inventive, crazy, and
overall REALLY GOOD GAY FILM is made.*
http://www.tlavideo.com/gay-soulmaid/p-261267-2

And:

"Hey, I'm just a gay man, who keeps wishing they would do a Mythos gay
porn film!"
Nov 14, 2006 -- Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts
http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.horror.cthulhu/buy_the_pornomicon_at_tlavideo_com_9583394m.html

Self-published Fag Movie reviews DON'T count...

Regarding your otherwise pathetic life:
------------------------------------------------

"Thanks. I did speak to a detective and have a hearing in mid-April.
How I have to do some net searches and find out what is involved
with that so I don't go in not know what is going to happen.

"I still concerned about the incident report and what the police left
out
and what was put in that wasn't said. I was repeatedly called "faggot"
a number of times; I am a gay man.

"Also, I clearly told the police supervisor who was on duty that night
I
would be pressing charges, to which he replied "Yeah, yeah" in a
dismissive way, because all he wanted me to do was nothing, to not
complain. I still cannot believe he would say such a thing to me and
he got very rude when I told him I would not do that."
03-30-2006 -- Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts
http://www.laborlawtalk.com/showthread.php?t=112979&page=1

Oh-Boo-Hoo!!! You were "repeatedly" called a "faggot!!!"

Oh-Boo-Hoo!!! That is soooo, soooo, TRUE!

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

>And, oh yes: I am going to be getting legally married to another man.

But can you file your Federal income tax as Married-Filing Jointly?

No...

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

You sure are a pathetic excuse for a sub-human, Franklin...

Lastly, let's NOT forget wjhat YOU think about America:

"I've always wanted to move and live in Canada. They often just seem a
lot saner than the
USA." 0-02-2005 -- Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t273689-p2-please-need-good-advice-on-buying-region-free-dvd-video-combo.html

Learn to like your lies...

They will NEVER go away...
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Posted on behalf of:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!


J Shanika Quesada

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May 24, 2013, 10:47:39 PM5/24/13
to
Real name Fwanklin. Fwanklin is a famous homo. Fwanklin's 15 seconds
of fame came at a Star Trek Convention when he embarrassed the
audience, embarrassed America, embarrassed humanity and embarrassed
Gene Roddenberry by asking why Star Trek didn't have any faggot
characters. Fwanklin, after many beatings, has become just another
cock-slapped usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have been exposed,
frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo monkey who sits in
the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying nothing of value.

Franklin Hummel - born May 1953
18 Linwood St, Unit 3
Boston, Massachusetts 02119-1543
(617) 541-3834
E-mail: hum...@world.std.com
Possible Fag Butt-Buddy: Arnold D Thomas (Age 52)

Franklin Hummel - Supervisor
Boston Public Library
700 Boylston Street
Boston, Massachusetts 02116
(617) 536-5400
(617) 536-3813 Fax
www.bpl.org

[][][][][][]


The DemocRATs Hall Of Shame asks "Why do you always LIE?"


Nappy Tom likes to force newsgroup replies to bogus newsgroups, a
silly trick that was popular more than a decade ago and is today only
practiced by children, retards and the most desperate. Here's how you
report Nappy Tom to Google:

>Followup-To: alt.stupidity

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To REPORT this post to Google click here:
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Then click "More options"

Then click "Report this message"

Then select "Other"

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