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Bush town-halls: would only address hand-picked audiences. Obama town-hall: held in a county that didn't vote for him and takes questions from anyone.

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jamezd

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Feb 9, 2009, 10:29:30 PM2/9/09
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Weak-dick Bush: routinely staged town-hall meetings held almost
exclusively in party strongholds. Tickets were distributed primarily
to supporters who would applaud politely while chimp twitched and
smirked his way through it.

Confident and charismatic Obama: holds town-hall meeting in Elkhart,
IN attended by a first-come, first-served audience. However, not a
very bright audience since Elkhart is located in a county that didn't
vote for Obama.

Don't need to know anything more about these two individuals.....

Broccoli Rancher

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"jamezd" <jamez...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's great to have a President again and not a CEO or an actor.


Doorman

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"jamezd" <jamez...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yeah. He snagged you. Hilter would've had you high steppin in minutes.

Broccoli Rancher

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> "jamezd" <jamez...@hotmail.com> wrote in message Yeah. He snagged you.
> Hilter would've had you high steppin in minutes.

Like Bush did you.


Doorman

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Have you received your "National Civilian Security Force" uniform yet?

ben sterling

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Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said he "did not know how tickets to the town
hall would be distributed, but the audience wouldn't be filled with
ringers.". Really?

We don't need to know how the audience was formed; I guess we should just
take the administration at their word that there is no audience
manipulation.

Or should we -

Here's a picture of Obama in Elkhart today:

http://www.theindychannel.com/2009/0209/18673456_240X180.jpg

How did the soldiers in uniform get to be behind him? Coincidence?

Is Obama from the same party that accused Bush of using the military as a
prop?

bvallely

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Feb 10, 2009, 12:05:04 AM2/10/09
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.

> Weak-dick Bush: routinely staged town-hall meetings held almost
> exclusively in party strongholds. Tickets were distributed primarily
> to supporters who would applaud politely while chimp twitched and
> smirked his way through it.
.
And yet, Obama wasn't asked a single hard question. Certainly, he
didn't say anything memorable.

.the_pc_jellybean!!..

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"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> And yet, Obama wasn't asked a single hard question.

No. Thats if you dont count questions about $350 billion and such.

>Certainly, he didn't say anything memorable.

Well nothing you fuckwits wanted to hear anyway.

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Jeff George

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"ben sterling" <2@v.g> wrote in
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>
> Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said he "did not know how tickets to the
> town hall would be distributed, but the audience wouldn't be filled
> with ringers.". Really?
>
> We don't need to know how the audience was formed; I guess we should
> just take the administration at their word that there is no audience
> manipulation.
>
> Or should we -
>
> Here's a picture of Obama in Elkhart today:
>
> http://www.theindychannel.com/2009/0209/18673456_240X180.jpg
>
> How did the soldiers in uniform get to be behind him? Coincidence?
>
> Is Obama from the same party that accused Bush of using the military
> as a prop?

Maybe they decided to go to the event? It's hard to tell with drones like
that.

--
JG, former Quarterback and Lt. General SWIFT (Socialist Workers
Infiltrating Federal Targets)

Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 10, 2009, 11:26:45 AM2/10/09
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You don't find it amusing that your Messiah travels to Elkhart,IN to
try and sell his "Pork Pie" to the unemployed recreational vehicle
factory workers? The same people liberal policies have put out of
business?? What'll your Messiah do take the unemployed RV factory
workers and give them government jobs?? ROTFFLMMFAO !!

Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 10, 2009, 11:28:51 AM2/10/09
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On Feb 9, 9:38 pm, "Broccoli Rancher" <bl...@limbaugh.net> wrote:
> "jamezd" <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> It's great to have a President again and not a CEO or an actor but he is an inexperienced,conniving habitual liar from the mold of Saul Alinsky and Chicago gutter politics.

Liberal Whisperer

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On Feb 9, 10:16 pm, "Doorman" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Broccoli Rancher" <bl...@limbaugh.net> wrote in message
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> news:jZ6kl.6772$jZ1....@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
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> > "Doorman" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:86865$4990f6d5$4b5a52a1$74...@ALLTEL.NET...
> >> "jamezd" <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message Yeah.  He snagged you.

> >> Hilter would've had you high steppin in minutes.
>
> > Like Bush did you.
>
> Have you received your "National Civilian Security Force" uniform yet?

Will it be a uniform or a gubmint issued armband? Will they go around
panting "R"s on registered Republicans doors??

Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 10, 2009, 11:32:41 AM2/10/09
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On Feb 10, 9:24 am, Gogarty <Goga...@Clongowes.edu.ie> wrote:
> In article <bk7kl.195721$9i5.178...@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com>, 2...@v.g
> says...
>
>
>
> >"jamezd" <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> I guess youo missed the question and comment about his tax-troubled
> appointees to the Cabinet and other posts. Can you imagine such a question
> in a Bush town hall gathering?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No,because Bush didn't make a tax dodging crook the head of the IRS.
Btw, Bush is no longer President. Let it go son or seek professional
help for your addiction.

jamezd

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Feb 10, 2009, 10:45:15 PM2/10/09
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On Feb 10, 11:32 am, Liberal Whisperer <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> No,because Bush didn't make a tax dodging crook the head of the IRS.
> Btw, Bush is no longer President. Let it go son or seek professional
> help for your addiction.- Hide quoted text -

Bush is like a sleaze-bag neighbor, the one who comes over to borrow a
power tool and makes a pass at your wife.

Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 11, 2009, 9:22:13 AM2/11/09
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On Feb 9, 9:29 pm, jamezd <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Can you explain why three dark skinned muslims weren't allowed to
attend a "town Hall" meeting by your "Messiah"? Were they removed from
behind the podium for fear "typical white folks" would see "former"
muslim Hussein Obama as being a muslim sympathiser?

Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 11, 2009, 9:24:45 AM2/11/09
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Your wife??!! "Fat" chance.

Falstaff

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Feb 11, 2009, 2:48:19 PM2/11/09
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On Feb 10, 10:26 am, Liberal Whisperer <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Feb 9, 9:29 pm, jamezd <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Weak-dick Bush: routinely staged town-hall meetings held almost
> > exclusively in party strongholds. Tickets were distributed primarily
> > to supporters who would applaud politely while chimp twitched and
> > smirked his way through it.
>
> > Confident and charismatic Obama: holds town-hall meeting in Elkhart,
> > IN attended by a first-come, first-served audience. However, not a
> > very bright audience since Elkhart is located in a county that didn't
> > vote for Obama.
>
> > Don't need to know anything more about these two individuals.....
>
> You don't find it amusing that your Messiah travels to Elkhart,IN to
> try and sell his "Pork Pie" to the unemployed recreational vehicle
> factory workers?


Obama goes to places that voted AGAINST him to address the locals
and takes their questions unscripted. When is the last time Bush did
that?


>The same people liberal policies have put out of
> business??

The recession started under Bush, remember?


> What'll your Messiah do take the unemployed RV factory
> workers and give them government jobs??


And your Limbaugh-approved solution to the Bush Recession is
what?


Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 11, 2009, 3:32:04 PM2/11/09
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> what?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Don't know about Limbaugh but my solution would be to lower all taxes
on people that pay taxes. That would inject money into the economy
IMMEDIATELY as opposed to taking from the producers and spreading the
pork around to simply buy votes and return favors.
Btw,explain to me how an individual that was raised a good muslim has
such a love affair with PORK??

Falstaff

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Feb 11, 2009, 4:53:29 PM2/11/09
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Maybe you are right. After all, Bush cut taxes three times just
look at how well the economy was doing when he left office.


>  Btw,explain to me how an individual that was raised a good muslim has
> such a love affair with PORK


You mean like the Bridge To Nowhere that Republicans wrote and
Bush signed into law?

Liberal Whisperer

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Feb 11, 2009, 8:03:26 PM2/11/09
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Tax cuts work if you don't spend like a drunken sailor. Speaking of
drunken sailors how will your Messiah's $8 trillion spending binge
"stimulate" the economy?


> >  Btw,explain to me how an individual that was raised a good muslim has
> > such a love affair with PORK
>
>        You mean like the Bridge To Nowhere that Republicans wrote and

> Bush signed into law?- Hide quoted text -
>

If I'm not mistaken the liberal demorats control congress AND
spending. Are you gonna sit there and give your 9% approval rate
congress a total pass?

bvallely

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Feb 11, 2009, 9:46:22 PM2/11/09
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.

> news:1209dccc-43fb-4f09...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> > And yet, Obama wasn't asked a single hard question.
.
> No. Thats if you dont count questions about $350 billion and such.
.
No, that's the sort of question he should be asked. Nothing remotely
uncomfortable about the evening for the Messiah.

.the_pc_jellybean!!..

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"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> .
>> news:1209dccc-43fb-4f09...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > And yet, Obama wasn't asked a single hard question.
> .
>> No. Thats if you dont count questions about $350 billion and such.
> .
> No, that's the sort of question he should be asked.

He *was* asked about that, you blithering idiot.

jamezd

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Feb 11, 2009, 10:41:25 PM2/11/09
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On Feb 11, 8:03 pm, Liberal Whisperer <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   If I'm not mistaken the liberal demorats control congress AND
> spending. Are you gonna sit there and give your 9% approval rate
> congress a total pass?

Cheer up deutsch bag, when old lady Ginsburg retires soon, Obama will
appoint a liberal democrat to the Court <for life>. That means Dems
will control all 3 branches. How sweet it is !!!!


Iarnrod

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Feb 11, 2009, 11:19:13 PM2/11/09
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BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!! "B-b-b-b-but Clinton....!!"

Holy SHIT, you *ran* right into that one, kooker!

Iarnrod

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Feb 11, 2009, 11:21:43 PM2/11/09
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Actually no it wouldn't. We tried that shit, it CAUSED this crisis.

Government spending puts money IMMEDIATELY into the economy. Tax cuts
do not.

>  Btw,explain to me how an individual that was raised a good muslim has
> such a love affair with PORK??

Who would that be, kooker? Making up your own little unreality bubble
to live in for the next 16 years, are ya?

BTW, there is no pork in the bill.

Iarnrod

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Feb 11, 2009, 11:24:21 PM2/11/09
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If I'm not mistaken the Ketchikan Bridge in question was a GOP project
approved by a GOP Congress and pushed by GOP Alaskan politicians like
Stephens, Young and Paliban.

> Are you gonna sit there and give your 9% approval rate
> congress a total pass?

The GOP in Congress has the lower approval rating, dragging down the
whole. Dems draw better approval ratings. The conclusion is that
Americans don't want any Republicans in Congress, then the rating
would go up.

bvallely

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On Feb 12, 2:31 pm, <. tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!! . .>
wrote:
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
.
In a polite, respectful way. Here's some questions that he SHOULD
have been asked:

1) Mr. President, tonight you criticized those who argue that FDR's
policies failed. I'd like to read a passage from the diary of Henry
Morgenthau, FDR's Treasury secretary: "We have tried spending money.
We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not
work. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get
a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good
on our promises. I say after eight years of this Administration we
have just as much unemployment as when we started and an enormous debt
to boot!" Please comment.

2) Mr. President, this is a two-part question. In your opening
statement, you called today's economic situation "the most profound
economic emergency since the Great Depression" and later "the worst
economic crisis since the Great Depression." But in the 1981-82
recession, unemployment reached 10.8 percent in 1982 versus 7.6 today.
Reagan inherited an annual inflation rate of 13.5 percent, while you,
sir, came in with a 0.1 percent inflation rate. Prime interest rates
reached 21.5 percent at the end of 1980, compared with 3.25 percent at
the end of 2008. Reagan did not ask for a "rescue" or "bailout"
package. He cut taxes and slowed the rate of domestic spending.
Unemployment, inflation and interest rates went down. The Treasury
collected more revenue than ever. First, how then -- at least so far
-- is this the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression?
And second, given Reagan's success, why not cut taxes, reduce domestic
spending, and leave taxpayers and consumers with more money to save,
spend and invest? Continued...

3) Mr. President, you say your administration will not torture.
You've directed our military to apply the Army Field Manual, which
relies on 19 psychological methods of interrogation and excludes
waterboarding. Yet you are setting up an interagency panel to decide
whether to use interrogation methods not included in the Army Field
Manual. Aren't you having it both ways -- saying you won't torture or
use enhanced interrogation techniques, while retaining the option to
do so?

4) As a candidate, you called raising taxes a matter of
"neighborliness." Your Vice President called paying taxes a matter of
"patriotism." Yet your secretary of Treasury, Timothy Geithner, who
oversees the IRS, failed to pay some taxes. The International Monetary
Fund, where he worked, informed him in writing of his obligation to
pay payroll taxes and increased his compensation to offset the
payment. He accepted the compensation but failed to pay taxes. Can the
head of the department that runs the IRS credibly expect others to pay
their taxes, when he failed to pay his own?

5) In one of your first acts as President, you signed an executive
order that many call the toughest-ever ethical guidelines. It bans
former lobbyists joining your administration from being involved with
any matters or agencies that might be related to their former lobbying
efforts. It also prohibits anyone from working in an agency he or she
lobbied during the past two years. Given that, please comment on why
you have granted a dozen personnel waivers to your own ethical
guidelines.

6) The respected nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office studies the
effects of the various proposed stimulus plans. The Washington Times
said, "CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House
and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much
government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private
investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over
the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing." Your
comment?

7) Tonight you blamed the economic crisis on the "failed theories of
the last eight years," yet tonight you also criticized homeowners who
put little or nothing down and purchase homes without the ability to
pay their mortgages if "something goes wrong." Sir, which is it?

bvallely

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Feb 12, 2009, 11:17:22 PM2/12/09
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On Feb 9, 7:29 pm, jamezd <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Weak-dick Bush: routinely staged town-hall meetings held almost
> exclusively in party strongholds. Tickets were distributed primarily
> to supporters who would applaud politely while chimp twitched and
> smirked his way through it.
>
> Confident and charismatic Obama: holds town-hall meeting in Elkhart,
> IN attended by a first-come, first-served audience. However, not a
> very bright audience since Elkhart is located in a county that didn't
> vote for Obama.
.
When Obama had his press conference, who sat in the front row?

Lefty radio talk show host Ed Schultz -- who once called Republican
presidential candidate John McCain a "warmonger" -- , appropriately
next to "reporter" Helen Thomas. Thomas used to attack then-President
Bush with her statements masquerading as questions. In her question to
Obama, she referred to our Islamofascist enemies as "so-called
terrorists" -- which failed to elicit even a raised eyebrow from the
President.....

Obama even took a question from a "reporter" for the hyper-liberal Web
site The Huffington Post. And, unlike Bush, the Obama administration
preselected the reporters to be called upon and notified them in
advance. Why did the others even bother showing up? If Bush pulled
something like this, they'd call it "the discredited doctrine of pre-
emption."

Mitchell Holman

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bvallely <bval...@aol.com> wrote in news:0cd9bffe-2830-4835-af7e-
b56ae4...@l1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 9, 7:29 pm, jamezd <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Weak-dick Bush: routinely staged town-hall meetings held almost
>> exclusively in party strongholds. Tickets were distributed primarily
>> to supporters who would applaud politely while chimp twitched and
>> smirked his way through it.
>>
>> Confident and charismatic Obama: holds town-hall meeting in Elkhart,
>> IN attended by a first-come, first-served audience. However, not a
>> very bright audience since Elkhart is located in a county that didn't
>> vote for Obama.
> .
> When Obama had his press conference, who sat in the front row?
>
> Lefty radio talk show host Ed Schultz -- who once called Republican
> presidential candidate John McCain a "warmonger" -- , appropriately
> next to "reporter" Helen Thomas. Thomas used to attack then-President
> Bush with her statements masquerading as questions. In her question to
> Obama, she referred to our Islamofascist enemies as "so-called
> terrorists" -- which failed to elicit even a raised eyebrow from the
> President.....


But no questions from "Jeff Gannon". You know, the homosexual
prostitute hired by Karl Rove to pitch praise-filling softball
"questions" to George Bush. Is it that sort of "journalism" that
you prefer in the White House press room?

.the_pc_jellybean!!..

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"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 12, 2:31 pm, <. tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!! . .>
wrote:
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6eadc56f-29b8-44ad...@x6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > .
> >>news:1209dccc-43fb-4f09...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > And yet, Obama wasn't asked a single hard question.
> > .
> >>> No. Thats if you dont count questions about $350 billion and such.
.
> >> No, that's the sort of question he should be asked.
.
>> He *was* asked about that, you blithering idiot.
.
>In a polite, respectful way.

Right. Learn to read a usenet thread, you twat.

.
>Here's some questions that he SHOULD<SMAK>!


Stop whining, you pathetic tool.

bvallely

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On Feb 12, 8:31 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
> bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in news:0cd9bffe-2830-4835-af7e-
> b56ae4558...@l1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 7:29 pm, jamezd <jamezd2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Weak-dick Bush: routinely staged town-hall meetings held almost
> >> exclusively in party strongholds. Tickets were distributed primarily
> >> to supporters who would applaud politely while chimp twitched and
> >> smirked his way through it.
>
> >> Confident and charismatic Obama: holds town-hall meeting in Elkhart,
> >> IN attended by a first-come, first-served audience. However, not a
> >> very bright audience since Elkhart is located in a county that didn't
> >> vote for Obama.
> > .
> > When Obama had his press conference, who sat in the front row?
.

> > Lefty radio talk show host Ed Schultz -- who once called Republican
> > presidential candidate John McCain a "warmonger" -- , appropriately
> > next to "reporter" Helen Thomas. Thomas used to attack then-President
> > Bush with her statements masquerading as questions. In her question to
> > Obama, she referred to our Islamofascist enemies as "so-called
> > terrorists" -- which failed to elicit even a raised eyebrow from the
> > President.....
.
>But no questions from "Jeff Gannon". You know, the homosexual prostitute hired by Karl Rove to pitch praise-filling softball "questions" to George Bush. Is it that sort of "journalism" that you prefer in the White House press room?>
.
Bush had one prostitute in the back. Obama allows nothing BUT
prostitutes has his press conferences. Seriously, would Obama
tolerate a right wing version of Helen Thomas?

bvallely

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Feb 13, 2009, 2:07:30 PM2/13/09
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On Feb 13, 3:43 pm, <. tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!! . .>

wrote:
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:29f85b26-6465-4973...@j35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 12, 2:31 pm, <.  tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!!     .                  .>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:6eadc56f-29b8-44ad...@x6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > .
> > >>news:1209dccc-43fb-4f09...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> > And yet, Obama wasn't asked a single hard question.
> > > .
> > >>> No. Thats if you dont count questions about $350 billion and such.
> .
> > >> No, that's the sort of question he should be asked.
> .
> >> He *was* asked about that, you blithering idiot.
.
> >In a polite, respectful way.
.
> Right. Learn to read a usenet thread, you twat.
.
> >Here's some questions that he SHOULD<SMAK>!

> Stop whining, you pathetic tool.

.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo - you don't seem to like to read
those questions, do you?

Here's some questions that he SHOULD

.the_pc_jellybean!!..

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"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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No you fucking moron, I don't like whining pantywaists.

bvallely

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Feb 13, 2009, 9:57:17 PM2/13/09
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On Feb 14, 10:09 am, <. tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!! . .>
.

bvallely

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Feb 13, 2009, 9:57:27 PM2/13/09
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On Feb 14, 10:09 am, <. tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!! . .>
.

> No you fucking moron, I don't like whining pantywaists.
.
Here's some questions that he SHOULD

Mitchell Holman

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Feb 13, 2009, 10:37:10 PM2/13/09
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bvallely <bval...@aol.com> wrote in
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Why? Gannon was no journalist, he represented no paper
or network - what was gay hooker doing in the Bush White
House AT ALL, much less into the press room?


> Obama allows nothing BUT
> prostitutes has his press conferences.


Murdoch's Fox News and Wall Street Journal were there,
so was the rightwing Washington Times. What more do you
want - David Duke?


.the_pc_jellybean!!..

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"Mitchell Holman" <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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LOL!


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