How will Obama disrespect the American military again on this Memorial Day?

[Gary A. Andresson]

Will he,

A. Fail to render the proper salute to the flag of the United
States of America as the "Commander In Chief" (What a joke that
is...)? Again?

http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/69244.jpg

B. Deliberately refuse to honor the flag or the Pledge of
Allegiance? Again?

http://illegalprotest.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/obama-no-
patriotthumbnail.jpg

C. Burn an American flag?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4974623456_065dd43c2f.jpg

D. Falsify another draft registration card?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-
WSCP6icOGQ4/T6lXNe3mgJI/AAAAAAAAEpA/0LKgnxpcAog/s640/SSA.jpg

E. Take the oath of Marxism again on national TV?

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000591437/polls_6a00e008c6b4e58
8340115710e770f970c_320pi_5506_606034_poll_xlarge.jpeg

F. Pardon homosexual traitor Bradley Manning for selling out his
homeland?

http://antzinpantz.com/kns/images/Nov10/obama-manning.jpg

G. Lie about his command of Seal Team 6 during the execution of
Osama Bin Laden? Again?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-
Ght3r0sVtb0/T6WGDCrYImI/AA
AAAAAADk0/BPAFrEhmYQU/s1600/obamasealteam6credit.jpg

H: Out every single member of Seal Team 6 to kiss Hollywood fag
ass for political donations? Again?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-
17K3QM1vjF8/T6CXwL7tQaI/AAAAAAAAvZA/c1Bsj2wgKho/s1600/120501-
seal-team-six-obama.jpg

I: Out every single member of Seal Team 6 for a cheap photo op
despite families asking him not to do so?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UVgjGksS4H8/TnShmfm1OtI/AAAAAAAAA2I/ee-
_LjDhccQ/s1600/185499_1912553725823_1001292338_31507047_1131018_n
jpg

J: Piss on the 200-year-old constitution of the United States Of
America? Again?

http://i.qkme.me/3oljd3.jpg

K: Lie about his birth certificate again?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4F7FHZurD40/TH75Gx-
Ym4I/AAAAAAAAAEA/gCWyyFVel6E/s1600/COLB_Parody.bmp

[cloud dreamer]

On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> Will he,
>


It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
stoop to in order to tear down another person.

Your lies say a lot about more about you than it can ever say about Obama.

What is it? Does the fact that he has a bigger penis threaten you in
some way? It must. It's the only reason I can see for people like you to
spew your hate.

It's tearing your nation apart and you're too stupid to see it.

..


--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us

[Al]

In article <nbudnbxNPOof8V_S...@supernews.com>,

cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:

> On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> > Will he,
> >
>
>
> It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> stoop to in order to tear down another person.

"How dare you insult dear Leader!"

[Kickin&amp;#39; Ass and Takin&amp;#39; Names]

On May 27, 2:11 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <nbudnbxNPOof8V_SnZ2dnUVZ_gadn...@supernews.com>,

>  cloud dreamer <TJM....@really.small.penis> wrote:
>
> > On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> > > Will he,
>
> > It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> > stoop to in order to tear down another person.
>
> "How dare you insult dear Leader!"

"Dear Leader?"

You mean THIS Dear Leader?
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushourleader.htm

[Al]

In article
<c8c93551-b986-4c12...@e18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
"Kickin&amp;amp;#39; Ass and Takin&amp;amp;#39; Names"

<old_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On May 27, 2:11 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > In article <nbudnbxNPOof8V SnZ2dnUVZ gadn...@supernews.com>,

> >  cloud dreamer <TJM....@really.small.penis> wrote:
> >
> > > On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> > > > Will he,
> >
> > > It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> > > stoop to in order to tear down another person.
> >
> > "How dare you insult dear Leader!"
>
>
>
> "Dear Leader?"
>
> You mean THIS Dear Leader?
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushourleader.htm

Now THAT was a leader. 50,000,000 liberated. full employment. The googd olds
days, before Communism.



But where are the little children's videos, the cute ones where they sing
songs of loyalty and devotion and hopes and expectations, that their parents
wrote for them?

No-one did that for Bush.


Even the adults made musical videos of their love. How many did Bush have
back when he was running? None.

And the youth Corps, were their several cammie-clad youth groups performing
militaristic chants of loyalty to Bush?

None.

So yeah, that billboard, THAT is your fascism. LOL.

No wonder leftists have such an impressive history of falling in love with
fascism, no matter HOW many times it beats you.

[Joan in GB-W]

"Gary A. Andresson" <gandr...@it.jpmorgan.net> wrote in message
news:A0GE9SO04105...@reece.net.au...

Gonna really bug you, Gary, when he gets reelected.

[Da Big Tray]

The November presidential election will be the first in recent times
in which neither candidate has military service.

Although one candidate had the potential for possessing an essential
military skill ...

http://img.wpdigital.net/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/05/11/Editorial-Opinion/Graphics/toles05132012.jpg

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

HAAAAHHH !! you bedwetting stoners spent 8 years "tearing down" GW
Bush,Dick Cheney and EVERY Conservative that strolled off the
plantation. Then you spend 4+ years tearing down Sarah Palin and her
family and every politician with an (R) in front of his name that
dares challenge your Messiah for the Presidency. Never mind the
time,effort,ink and hotair wasted by you uber-bats tearing down the
Tea Party. Why don't you stop sniveling,pull up your pants,turn your
cap around and start acting like an adult for change? Idiot.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 27, 1:11 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <nbudnbxNPOof8V_SnZ2dnUVZ_gadn...@supernews.com>,

>  cloud dreamer <TJM....@really.small.penis> wrote:
>
> > On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> > > Will he,
>
> > It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> > stoop to in order to tear down another person.
>
> "How dare you insult dear Leader!"

Did you know you can be arrested for disrespecting the Chicago Jesus?

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-05-22/news/31816946_1_social-studies-teacher-student-school-officials

Teacher tells student he can be arrested for ‘disrespecting’ Obama

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 27, 4:43 pm, "Joan in GB-W" <jjkr...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Gary A. Andresson" <gandres...@it.jpmorgan.net> wrote in messagenews:A0GE9SO04105...@reece.net.au...

> Gonna really bug you, Gary, when he gets reelected.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Who? GW Bush??

[robw]

On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

> cap around and start acting like an adult for change? Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Wow. We're not obama supporters and don't dress like we're black.
What else you got?

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> What else you got?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you a Jaew ??

[robw]

On May 27, 7:46 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

> Are you a Jaew ??- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you RW or an imposter who's too much of a gutless pussy to use
their own name????

[Bubba]

On 27 May 2012, "Gary A. Andresson" <gandr...@it.jpmorgan.net> wrote:

>Will he,
>
>A. Fail to render the proper salute to the flag of the United
>States of America as the "Commander In Chief" (What a joke that
>is...)? Again?
>

Hitler routinely performed the "Hail victory!" salute at military
parades, memorial holidays, commemorations, awards ceremonies,
speeches and other public events.

The teleprompter-in-chief might try that style of salute on camera
in order to boost morale for the zionazi US/Nato military.

--
Bub

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> their own name????- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Jaew. Just Another Entitlement Whigger

[robw]

On May 27, 8:41 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

> Jaew. Just Another Entitlement Whigger- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You didn't (or couldn't) answer the question.

Why?

[Mal]

On 27 May 2012 17:37:15 -0000, "Gary A. Andresson"

You forgot

L. The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for
military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their
healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits
untouched

http://freebeacon.com/trashing-tricare/

[Billy]

In article <albert.finney000-DB...@news.giganews.com>,

Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest. Forget about
reasoned arguments, and prepare for invectives, and posing.

--
E Pluribus Unum

Know where your money is tonight?
It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable.


The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama."
Vote 3rd Party

[Kaitlin Renner]

'Lickin' Ass and Fakin' Military Service' is a Proven Fraud, a Proven
Liar and a Proven Thief. She is the most prolific liar in this
newsgroup and also the most prolific thief of other's writings. She is
also a Stolen Valor stain on America. Note that when you reply to a
Proven Liar you encourage them to continue lying.

[][][][][][]


The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:42:58 -0500, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Last night, in an effort to push back against the faux-populism that
>drove Santorum to victory in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri, Mitt
>Romney invoked his father George Romney. His father, Mitt explained,
>had it tough. He was a lath and plaster carpenter, working with his
>hands as a young adult, even doing odd jobs during his honeymoon to
>pay for his trip. That hard-luck carpenter went on to become a CEO and
>governor.

You stole this from:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/08/1062820/-Mitt-I-am-your-father-The-real-George-Romney?via=sidebar

Posted from:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/

[Charles Fox]

Real name Erika. A 4' 6" pygmy nigger, probably wider than she is
tall.

Robert W Westergom (59 years old)
Erika Westergom (Borders in Chestnut Hill, PA)
1900 Harvey Rd
Wilmington, DE 19810
302-475-5496

She claims to live in Philly but has never posted from Philly. She
mainly posts from a Delaware Public Library or a Barnes & Noble in the
Wilmington, DE, area using free wifi. She also uses free Google
Groups on a borrowed laptop. In her entire life she has contributed
absolutely nothing to society. Lies frequently but after many
beatings has become another usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have
been exposed, frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo
monkey who sits in the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying
nothing of value. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you

encourage them to continue lying.

[][][][][][]


The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

[Courtesy of Buster Norris:]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:32:53 -0700 (PDT), robw <nodd...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Message-ID: <fb3505cc-db21-4104...@i35g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
>On Mar 21, 9:18 pm, Buster Norris <Bus...@Buster.Com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT), robw <noddy...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Mar 19, 9:51 pm, Buster Norris <Bus...@Buster.Com> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 09:13:35 -0700 (PDT), robw <noddy...@comcast.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >We rent a studio in delaware,
>> >> Nope, you LIVE in Delaware...............
>> >> >we own a house in the Old City section
>> >> >of Philly.
>> >> Nope, you don't............
>> >> BUT HERE IS YOUR BIG NEGRO CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> Provide the link to JUST ONE POST FROM YOU in Google with an IP
>> >> Address from Philly................
>> >> Put it here:______________________
>> >> JUST ONE IS ALL IT TAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> C'mon Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> PROVE the ALL-POWERFUL Buster, YOUR WHITE SUPERIOR and MASTER is
>> >> wrong!!!!!!!
>> >> C'mon Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> Provide the link to JUST ONE POST FROM YOU in Google with an IP
>> >> Address from Philly................
>> >> Put it here:______________________
>> >> JUST ONE IS ALL IT TAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> C'mon Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> You didn't know Google keeps messages FOREVER???????????????
>> OH!!!!!!!!!!  WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> You USE Google!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> OF COURSE YOU KNEW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> So let's DO THAT ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> HERE IS YOUR BIG NEGRO CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Provide the link to JUST ONE POST FROM YOU in Google with an IP
>> Address from Philly................
>> Put it here:______________________
>> JUST ONE IS ALL IT TAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> C'mon Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> PROVE the ALL-POWERFUL Buster, YOUR WHITE SUPERIOR and MASTER is
>> wrong!!!!!!!
>> C'mon Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Provide the link to JUST ONE POST FROM YOU in Google with an IP
>> Address from Philly................
>> Put it here:______________________
>> JUST ONE IS ALL IT TAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> C'mon Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> OH!!!!!!!!!!  Guess what???????????
>> IF YOU FAIL TO REPLY OR FAIL TO PROVIDE JUST ONE FROM YOU in Google
>> with an IP Address from Philly YOU ARE AGAIN A PROVEN LIAR!!!!!!!!!

>What I am is someone who is not going to be bullied by...

I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The LIAR Kathy is TOTALLY BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Ain't working.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, OF COURSE IT WORKED YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I trapped you in a corner leaving you NO WAY OUT EXCEPT TO BEND
OVER!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---< Update >-----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:16:51 -0700 (PDT), robw <nodd...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>On Apr 15, 11:07 pm, Buster Norris <bustyourf...@rocketmail.com>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:35:30 -0700 (PDT), robw <noddy...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> All you have to do is POST FROM YOUR HOME JUST ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> ONE POST, JUST ONE POST, JUST ONE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> ONE POST, JUST ONE POST, JUST ONE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Hurry up!!!!!!!!  Everybody is waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Your desperation is actually comical.
>Guess you want to use more of that "new data"???
>I'll post from where I want, when I want, and if you don't like it you
>can pound sand.
>Got it now?

PG NAILED IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE RUNT NIGGER KATHY POSTS FROM THE LIBRARY BECAUSE SHE CAN'T AFFORD
A COMPUTER AND INTERNET CONNECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ray Holder]

Real name Erika. A 4' 6" pygmy nigger, probably wider than she is
tall.

Robert W Westergom (59 years old)
Erika Westergom (Borders in Chestnut Hill, PA)
1900 Harvey Rd
Wilmington, DE 19810
302-475-5496

She claims to live in Philly but has never posted from Philly. She
mainly posts from a Delaware Public Library or a Barnes & Noble in the
Wilmington, DE, area using free wifi. She also uses free Google
Groups on a borrowed laptop. In her entire life she has contributed
absolutely nothing to society. Lies frequently but after many
beatings has become another usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have
been exposed, frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo
monkey who sits in the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying
nothing of value. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

[][][][][][]


The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

[Courtesy of Buster Norris:]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:30:07 -0700 (PDT), robw <nodd...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>We dropped our Comcast account when head honcho Ed Snider had Sarah
>Palin drop the puck at the
>Flyers home opener in 2008.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Here's the opening paragraphs of the press release...

Philadelphia, PA – October 8, 2008) Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the
nation’s most popular hockey mom, will join the winner of the
Philadelphia Flyers regional search for the “Ultimate Hockey Mom”
contest and drop the puck at the ceremonial opening face-off as the
home team Flyers host the New York Rangers at the Wachovia Center on
Saturday, October 11 at 7 p.m."
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/Palin_to_throw_out_puck_Saturday_night_.html

"In 2010 she only had that IP "NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.39.128.10" from
"Tue, 8 Jun 2010" to "Mon, 16 Aug 2010." Prbably signed up during an
advertised sale and didn't pay for it and they dumped her..."
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>(hint: it won't be from the philly house

Because there isn't one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dick C. Paredes]

Real name Erika. A 4' 6" pygmy nigger, probably wider than she is
tall.

Robert W Westergom (59 years old)
Erika Westergom (Borders in Chestnut Hill, PA)
1900 Harvey Rd
Wilmington, DE 19810
302-475-5496

She claims to live in Philly but has never posted from Philly. She
mainly posts from a Delaware Public Library or a Barnes & Noble in the
Wilmington, DE, area using free wifi. She also uses free Google
Groups on a borrowed laptop. In her entire life she has contributed
absolutely nothing to society. Lies frequently but after many
beatings has become another usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have
been exposed, frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo
monkey who sits in the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying
nothing of value. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

[][][][][][]


The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

On Thu, 5 May 2011 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT), robw <nodd...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Major Leaguers don't use aluminum bats.
>That's for the minors and Little League.

Oops! Caught LYING!

"For many players, this is the first time they have ever used wooden
baseball bats, as

aluminum bats are most common in the amateur game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_league_baseball

[Al]

In article
<wildbilly-D9C6D...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

I take it you disagree with my statement.

Can I ask why?

[Shania Mudshark]

On 05/27/2012 11:03 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
> On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
>> Will he,
>>
>
>
> It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> stoop to in order to tear down another person.

It's amazing how low a Muslim will go to tear down America and it's
military heroes on his way to "shoot hoops" with some gay movie star or
singer.

>
> Your lies say a lot about more about you than it can ever say about Obama.

Obama's actions speak for themselves.

>
> What is it? Does the fact that he has a bigger penis threaten you in
> some way? It must. It's the only reason I can see for people like you to
> spew your hate.

You cocksuckers have a networks about penis size? How is George Clooney
and Ricky Martin, or Reggie Love hung?

>
> It's tearing your nation apart and you're too stupid to see it.

Obama is tearing the nation apart piece by piece just like Saul Alinski
has taught him.

[Shania Mudshark]

> Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest. Forget about
> reasoned arguments, and prepare for invectives, and posing.
>

Yeah, like attacking Mormons, and churches, and just about anything
American. Billy, you are almost as big a jag-off as Sanders Kaufman.

[Shania Mudshark]

On 05/27/2012 09:59 PM, Dennis M wrote:
> In article<albert.finney000-DB...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> In article
>> <c8c93551-b986-4c12...@e18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Kickin&amp;amp;#39; Ass and Takin&amp;amp;#39; Names"
>> <old_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 27, 2:11 pm, Al<albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article<nbudnbxNPOof8V SnZ2dnUVZ gadn...@supernews.com>,
>>>> cloud dreamer<TJM....@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
>>>>>> Will he,
>>>>
>>>>> It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
>>>>> stoop to in order to tear down another person.
>>>>
>>>> "How dare you insult dear Leader!"
>>>
>>> "Dear Leader?"
>>>
>>> You mean THIS Dear Leader?
>>> http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushourleader.htm
>>
>>
>> Now THAT was a leader. 50,000,000 liberated.
>

> And over 100,000 innocent civilians and 4,000 troops "liberated" from their
> lives.
>
>> full employment.
>
> Quit lying, there hasn't been full employment since the early '70s.

>
>> The googd olds days, before Communism.
>

> Put him up on the podium in Tampa this August and remind everybody of the
> "good old days" then. People hate Bush so much Romney rarely utters his
> name (and who can blame him).

Obama makes us really miss Bush. It was great to have a President that
wasn't a druggie homo.

[Shania Mudshark]

>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Wow. We're not obama supporters and don't dress like we're black.
> What else you got?
>

Most lazy parasites with no desire to work, but every desire to be taken
care of like a plantation nigger is voting for the parasite living for
free in the White House. Just another porch monkey in public housing.

[Mike Smith]

And a President that liked the USA.

Mike Smith

[Al]

In article <dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de>,

denn...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-DB...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> >In article
> ><c8c93551-b986-4c12...@e18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Kickin&amp;amp;#39; Ass and Takin&amp;amp;#39; Names"
> > <old_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On May 27, 2:11 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <nbudnbxNPOof8V SnZ2dnUVZ gadn...@supernews.com>,
> >> >  cloud dreamer <TJM....@really.small.penis> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> >> > > > Will he,
> >> >
> >> > > It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> >> > > stoop to in order to tear down another person.
> >> >
> >> > "How dare you insult dear Leader!"
> >>
> >> "Dear Leader?"
> >>
> >> You mean THIS Dear Leader?
> >> http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushourleader.htm
> >
> >
> >Now THAT was a leader. 50,000,000 liberated.
>

> And over 100,000 innocent civilians and 4,000 troops "liberated" from their
> lives.

Liberation and freedom used to be such a painless cakewalk, right?

> >full employment.
>
> Quit lying, there hasn't been full employment since the early '70s.

Define full employment.

> >The googd olds days, before Communism.
>

> Put him up on the podium in Tampa this August and remind everybody of the
> "good old days" then. People hate Bush so much Romney rarely utters his
> name (and who can blame him).

People don't "hate" Bush, leftists "HATE" Bush, but then again they HATE
everyone that isn't them.

Leftists are like little kids, if you don't HATE what they HATE, they bust
your fucking windows, that'll show ya!

[Al]

In article <jpv8mc$5l4$3...@wieslauf.sub.de>,

Veterans favored Bush by 16 points, veterans now favor Romney by 24 points
over Obama.

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/229715-poll-romney-t
ops-obama-by-28-points-among-male-veterans

[Barb May]

Mal wrote:
> You forgot
>
> L. The Obama administration's proposed defense budget calls for
> military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their
> healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers' benefits
> untouched

Another nonsensical wingnut argument.

The President has no control over civilian defense workers' benefits;
unionized or otherwise.

--
Barb

[George Plimpton]

On 5/28/2012 8:54 AM, Barb May wrote:
> Mal wrote:
>> You forgot
>>
>> L. The Obama administration's proposed defense budget calls for
>> military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their
>> healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers' benefits
>> untouched
>
> Another nonsensical wingnut argument.

You didn't refute what he said. That's because you can't, of course.

> The President has no control over civilian defense workers' benefits;
> unionized or otherwise.

That's false, of course - in fact, it's a lie. The president has direct
control over their benefits. As their employer, he decides what kind of
benefits to provide. As a pro-union Democrat, of course, he yields to
their exorbitant demands, and gives them what they ask for.

You lying leftists ought to be more careful which lies you try to tell.
At least try to tell plausible lies, rather than absurd ones.

[Al]

In article <dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de>,
denn...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-A4...@news.giganews.com>, Al

> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Liberation and freedom used to be such a painless cakewalk, right?
>

> "Liberation & freedom"? Your memory must not stretch back to late
> 2002/early 2003. We were fed a line about WMD's


I remember even further back than that, when democrats were telling us the
same things.

[Sir Ray]

So, after all the braying and incoherent nonsense from the righties in
this thread, what DID Obama do this Memorial Day?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-salutes-troops-on-memorial-day-calls-for-war-only-when-absolutely-necessary/2012/05/28/gJQAhiZrwU_story.html
"Obama paid his respects to fallen soldiers at three events on Monday: a
White House breakfast for families who have lost loved ones, a
wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery and a speech to
thousands gathered at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial"

"Transcript: President Obama's Memorial Day remarks at Vietnam War Memorial"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/28/transcript-president-obama-memorial-day-remarks-at-vietnam-war-memorial/

"Photos: Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery"
http://photos.denverpost.com/mediacenter/2012/05/photos-scenes-from-memorial-day-ceremony-at-arlington-national-cemetery/36626/

So, contrary to the inane "predictions" made by the righties like the
Phantom, Gary, Al, and particularly the idiot posting as Shania Mudshark
with his utter nonsense like "Obama is tearing the nation apart piece by
piece just like Saul Alinski has taught him." (Saul Alinsky again - the
mere mention of his name still makes Republicans wet their pants almost
40 years after his death) and "Obama makes us really miss Bush. It was
great to have a President that wasn't a druggie homo." (I wouldn't have
chosen Bush for the non-druggie President example, BTW)...
in fact, Obama honored US Troops (those who have served, those still
serving, and those who gave their lives for the nation) on Memorial Day,
as most everyone outside of the righty bubble expected.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 28, 6:43 pm, Sir Ray <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So, after all the braying and incoherent nonsense from the righties in
> this thread, what DID Obama do this Memorial Day?
>

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-salutes-troops-on-memori...

> "Obama paid his respects to fallen soldiers at three events on Monday: a
> White House breakfast for families who have lost loved ones, a
> wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery and a speech to
> thousands gathered at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial"
>

> "Transcript: President Obama's Memorial Day remarks at Vietnam War Memorial"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/28/transcript-president-obama...
>
> "Photos: Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery"http://photos.denverpost.com/mediacenter/2012/05/photos-scenes-from-m...

>
> So, contrary to the inane "predictions" made by the righties like the
> Phantom, Gary, Al, and particularly the idiot posting as Shania Mudshark
> with his utter nonsense like "Obama is tearing the nation apart piece by
> piece just like Saul Alinski has taught him." (Saul Alinsky again - the
> mere mention of his name still makes Republicans wet their pants almost
> 40 years after his death) and "Obama makes us really miss Bush. It was
> great to have a President that wasn't a druggie homo." (I wouldn't have
> chosen Bush for the non-druggie President example, BTW)...
> in fact, Obama honored US Troops (those who have served, those still
> serving, and those who gave their lives for the nation) on Memorial Day,
> as most everyone outside of the righty bubble expected.

The motherfucker has no shame

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/28/disgrace-obama-uses-memorial-day-speech-to-campaign-for-reelection-honors-himself/?tw_p=twt

Obama Uses Memorial Day Speech To Campaign For Reelection, Honors
Himself

Marking Memorial Day at both the Vietnam War Memorial and earlier at
Arlington National Cemetery across the Potomac River from the capital,
Obama noted that for the first time in nine years, “Americans are not
fighting and dying in Iraq,” and the nation was winding down its role
in the conflict in Afghanistan.

“After a decade under the dark cloud of war, we can see the light of
the new day on the horizon,” Obama said to an audience gathered at the
Arlington amphitheater lined with American flags under a warm,
brilliant sun.

In this election year, Obama said the nation must remain committed to
providing for the families of fallen soldiers and help returning
service members seeking a job, higher education or health care
benefits.

“As long as I’m president, we will make sure you and your loved ones
will receive the benefits you’ve earned and the respect you deserve,”
Obama said. “America will be there for you.”

“As long as I’m president, we will make sure you and your loved ones
will receive the benefits you’ve earned and the respect you deserve,”
Obama said. “America will be there for you.”

Obama's actions prove the lie, yet again:

http://freebeacon.com/trashing-tricare/
“The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military

families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while

leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched.”… “It
seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the
fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.”… “Significantly, the
plan calls for increases between 30 percent to 78 percent in Tricare
annual premiums for the first year. After that, the plan will impose
five-year increases ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent—more than 3
times current levels.”

[Benton Hare]

Sir Gay is an unidentified imposter (sock puppet) and scores 9.4 on
the Faggotry Meter. (Which strongly suggests he is a sock puppet of
Fwanklin Hummer, although others suggest he is a sock of Retardia or
Lickin' Ass.) Sir Gay is mostly a public imbecile, a proven liar and
an ultra-left butthurt faggot.

[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:26:13 -0200, "bustyo...@rocketmail.com"
<bustyo...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ray
><waterb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Mar 22, 7:21 am, "patriotga...@democrathallofshame.com
>>http://www.democrathallofshame.com"
>><patriotga...@democrathallofshame.com> wrote:
>>> A Florida attorney on a mission to expose Navy SEAL imposters has
>>> filed the first of what he says could be multiple lawsuits, the Tampa
>>> Tribune reported Tuesday.
>>> Lawyer Gene Odom, of Tampa, Fla., filed a lawsuit Monday in
>>> Hillsborough County circuit court that accuses Barry "Bear" Silverman
>>> of falsely claiming to have Navy SEAL training, according to the
>>> newspaper.
>>> Silverman reportedly runs a business out of Broward County that offers
>>> "training to customers seeking Navy SEAL instruction in weapons use
>>> and security deployment."
>>> The newspaper reported that the lawsuit was filed on behalf of Don
>>> Shipley, a 24-year Navy veteran who runs a training business similar
>>> to Silverman's.
>>If anything, it is similar to the issues surrounding the Stolen Valor
>>act - which itself may be unconstitutional - which a google search
>>seems to show tripped up more Republicans than Democrats, so you
>>probably don't want to go there.
>So you did a Google search and determined Stolen Valor "tripped up
>more Republicans than Democrats"??????????????
>OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>POST THAT PROOF HERE:____________________
>You have 24 hours to OBEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>If you FAIL TO provide the actual Google Search link THEN YOU
>LIED............
>If your Google Search link results DO NOT PROVE your claim THEN YOU
>LIED................
>HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Hurry up, ASSHOLE, I don't like waiting.............

Close enough to 24 hours..............

Nothing from you except COWARDICE!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU LIED........................

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sir Ray]

On 5/28/2012 7:52 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
wrote:

> The motherfucker has no shame
>

> Obama Uses Memorial Day Speech To Campaign For Reelection, Honors
> Himself

Nope, WeaselZippers has no shame.
The original AP headline
"Obama says Vietnam veterans too often 'denigrated'"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jzD_LmdUu0TQhbHgxA29ITpsj5gA?docId=c52a44ef28374c1d94fc9b543ec1c7ca

> Marking Memorial Day at both the Vietnam War Memorial and earlier at
> Arlington National Cemetery across the Potomac River from the capital,
> Obama noted that for the first time in nine years, “Americans are not
> fighting and dying in Iraq,” and the nation was winding down its role
> in the conflict in Afghanistan.
> “After a decade under the dark cloud of war, we can see the light of
> the new day on the horizon,” Obama said to an audience gathered at the
> Arlington amphitheater lined with American flags under a warm,
> brilliant sun.

So, you're claiming this is not true (by quoting the Weasels)?
On second thought, you might well be claiming that Phantom, as you are
pretty stupid.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 28, 6:52 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

<burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 6:43 pm, Sir Ray <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > So, after all the braying and incoherent nonsense from the righties in
> > this thread, what DID Obama do this Memorial Day?
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-salutes-troops-on-memori...
> > "Obama paid his respects to fallen soldiers at three events on Monday: a
> > White House breakfast for families who have lost loved ones, a
> > wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery and a speech to
> > thousands gathered at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial"
>
> > "Transcript: President Obama's Memorial Day remarks at Vietnam War Memorial"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/28/transcript-president-obama...
>
> > "Photos: Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery"http://photos.denverpost.com/mediacenter/2012/05/photos-scenes-from-m...
>
> > So, contrary to the inane "predictions" made by the righties like the
> > Phantom, Gary, Al, and particularly the idiot posting as Shania Mudshark
> > with his utter nonsense like "Obama is tearing the nation apart piece by
> > piece just like Saul Alinski has taught him." (Saul Alinsky again - the
> > mere mention of his name still makes Republicans wet their pants almost
> > 40 years after his death) and "Obama makes us really miss Bush. It was
> > great to have a President that wasn't a druggie homo." (I wouldn't have
> > chosen Bush for the non-druggie President example, BTW)...
> > in fact, Obama honored US Troops (those who have served, those still
> > serving, and those who gave their lives for the nation) on Memorial Day,
> > as most everyone outside of the righty bubble expected.
>
> The motherfucker has no shame
>

> http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/28/disgrace-obama-uses-memorial-day-s...

> times current levels.”- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

The story was from the AP you slobbering idiot. Whaddarya fucking
stupid? Oh,never mind.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama paid tribute Monday to the
men and women who have died defending America, singling out Vietnam
veterans as an under-appreciated and sometimes maligned group of war
heroes, vowing that “it will not happen again.”

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 28, 9:42 pm, Sir Ray <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 7:52 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> wrote:> The motherfucker has no shame
>
> > Obama Uses Memorial Day Speech To Campaign For Reelection, Honors
> > Himself
>
> Nope, WeaselZippers has no shame.
> The original AP headline

> "Obama says Vietnam veterans too often 'denigrated'"http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jzD_LmdUu0TQhbHgxA2...

>
> > Marking Memorial Day at both the Vietnam War Memorial and earlier at
> > Arlington National Cemetery across the Potomac River from the capital,
> > Obama noted that for the first time in nine years, “Americans are not
> > fighting and dying in Iraq,” and the nation was winding down its role
> > in the conflict in Afghanistan.
> > “After a decade under the dark cloud of war, we can see the light of
> > the new day on the horizon,” Obama said to an audience gathered at the
> > Arlington amphitheater lined with American flags under a warm,
> > brilliant sun.
>
> So, you're claiming this is not true (by quoting the Weasels)?
> On second thought, you might well be claiming that Phantom, as you are
> pretty stupid.

[Mike Smith]

On Mon, 28 May 2012 22:16:56 -0500, denn...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis
M) wrote:

>In article <albert.finney000-90...@news.giganews.com>, Al

><laugh> Don't try to weasel out of Bush's (actually his puppeteer Dick
>Cheney's) war by claiming the Dems were responsible, even partially.
>Whatever the Dems said about Iraq before Bush they were also smart enough
>to realize it didn't warrant a full scale invasion.
>
>The only reason it didn't turn out to be an unmitigated disaster is because
>the US literally paid the so-called insurgents to lay down their arms and
>stop fighting, using billions in taxpayer money that Republicans now claim
>to be so concerned about.

You libtards and your delusional fantasies are hilariously stupid.

Mike Smith

[robw]

On May 28, 11:16 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey

Still ashamed to post under your own nym?

Yeah, that would prove that all your crippled ass can do all day is
post.

you're fooling no one.

[Sir Ray]

On May 28, 11:16 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey

rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The story was from the AP you slobbering idiot. Whaddarya fucking
> stupid? Oh,never mind.

Quoting yourself again Phantom, by leaving out a key part of my post.
Showing how dumb you are Phantom, when the post is right above yours.

On May 28, 10:42 pm, Sir Ray <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 7:52 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

> > Obama Uses Memorial Day Speech To Campaign For Reelection, Honors Himself

I stated that WeaselZippers has no shame, which is true.
I also gave the link to the original AP story, and mentioned the
original AP headline:

> The original AP headline
> "Obama says Vietnam veterans too often 'denigrated'"
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jzD_LmdUu0TQhbHgxA2...

Then I asked if you claimed this statement by Obama was true or not:

>" Obama noted that for the first time in nine years, “Americans are not
> fighting and dying in Iraq,” and the nation was winding down its role
> in the conflict in Afghanistan."

since that was the section of the AP article that the Weasels
highlighted in their laughably pathetic and failed spin attempt (they
also highlighted "As long as I’m president" from the AP article)

The whole purpose was to point out the blantant right-wing spin that
the Weasels put on almost all stories they cite, whether from a normal
reliable source (AP, NY Times, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Washington Post,
Reuters, and so on) or from a drooling mouth-breathing unreliable
righty site like The Blaze, WND, Rush Limbaugh, Daily Caller,
BreitBart and other such crap sites (of course, in the second case the
Weasels just transcribe the righty site's lies).

And finally, as if it wasn't already clear to everyone, I once again
pointed out how stupid you are, Phantom.

> On second thought, you might well be claiming that Phantom, as you are pretty stupid.

You're finished, Phantom, now go and get lost.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 29, 8:37 am, Sir Ray <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:

You're insane. But hey,you're a black,Obama supporting progressive.
You remind me of a chicken watching a card trick. The chicken knows
there's something going on but is too fucking dumb to figure it out.
Cluck-cluck.

[robw]

On May 29, 9:49 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

You remind us of a gutless cripple who has to hide because otherwise
we'd
know exactly how many times your retarded ass posts in one day!!

[Monosodio Glutamico]

On May 29, 9:49 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

You are another piece of shit that deserves to be beaten to death.
Exterminate the justice cartel!

[Monosodio Glutamico]

On May 29, 5:41 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 22:16:56 -0500, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M) wrote:
> >In article <albert.finney000-9064D2.18062428052...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> ><albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>In article <dennism3-ya02408000R2805121604350...@news.datemas.de>,
> >> denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:
>
> >>> In article <albert.finney000-A43CA8.08560328052...@news.giganews.com>, Al

> >>> <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >Liberation and freedom used to be such a painless cakewalk, right?
>
> >>> "Liberation & freedom"? Your memory must not stretch back to late
> >>> 2002/early 2003. We were fed a line about WMD's
>
> >>I remember even further back than that, when democrats were telling us the
> >>same things.
>
> ><laugh> Don't try to weasel out of Bush's (actually his puppeteer Dick
> >Cheney's) war by claiming the Dems were responsible, even partially.
> >Whatever the Dems said about Iraq before Bush they were also smart enough
> >to realize it didn't warrant a full scale invasion.
>
> >The only reason it didn't turn out to be an unmitigated disaster is because
> >the US literally paid the so-called insurgents to lay down their arms and
> >stop fighting, using billions in taxpayer money that Republicans now claim
> >to be so concerned about.
>
> You libtards and your delusional fantasies are hilariously stupid.
>
> Mike Smith

You deserve to be beaten to death. Piss on the US military. Bring the
mother fucking war home.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> know exactly how many times your retarded ass posts in one day!!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

"US" ?? You have a turd in your pocket??

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> Exterminate the justice cartel!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm here. Come "beat me to death". 1900 Harvey rd,Wilmington Delaware.
I'll sit here and wait for you to kick my door down. Btw,don't bring
an empty threat to a gunfight.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> mother fucking war home.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

There IS a war at home or haven't you noticed? You think it's bad now
just wait until #1: Zimmerman walks #2: Obama loses in a landslide $3:
You never get that promised reperations check and you have to cancel
your order for those lovely silver/rhinestone grilles

[Charles H. Sampson]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:

> On 5/28/2012 8:54 AM, Barb May wrote:
> > Mal wrote:
> >> You forgot
> >>
> >> L. The Obama administration's proposed defense budget calls for
> >> military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their
> >> healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers' benefits
> >> untouched
> >
> > Another nonsensical wingnut argument.
>
> You didn't refute what he said. That's because you can't, of course.
>
>
> > The President has no control over civilian defense workers' benefits;
> > unionized or otherwise.
>
> That's false, of course - in fact, it's a lie. The president has direct
> control over their benefits. As their employer, he decides what kind of
> benefits to provide. As a pro-union Democrat, of course, he yields to
> their exorbitant demands, and gives them what they ask for.

As a civilian defense worker for over 30 years, I can tell you that
the president had nothing like direct control over my benefits. The
closest he came was that his agents--the lower-ranking officers who were
charged with overseeing contracts bid for and won by the companies I
worked for--would negotiate the company overhead included in the
contract. My benefits were part of that overhead. (Actually, they
couldn't negotiate that much. The overhead rate was part of the winning
bid. The most they could do was talk during the extension years of the
contract, if it had any extension years.)

> You lying leftists ought to be more careful which lies you try to tell.
> At least try to tell plausible lies, rather than absurd ones.

And you wingnut rightists ought to get your facts straight before
going off in high dudgeon. I know a right-winger who is something of a
sad case, so I usually let him spout off in his group emails quietly,
but every so often one comes along that I have to respond to. Do you
want to take on Lowes' selling American flag doormats?

Charlie
--
Nobody in this country got rich on his own. You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for. You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward. Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

[robw]

On May 29, 11:46 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey

Yeah, Erika and myself.

"Us."

[Mike Smith]

Quit being so fuckin lazy and come do it... I can wait...

Mike Smith

[Ubiquitous]

Why should this day be any different?

gandr...@it.jpmorgan.net wrote:
>
>
>Will he,
>
>A. Fail to render the proper salute to the flag of the United
>States of America as the "Commander In Chief" (What a joke that
>is...)? Again?
>
>http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/69244.jpg
>
>B. Deliberately refuse to honor the flag or the Pledge of
>Allegiance? Again?
>
>http://illegalprotest.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/obama-no-
>patriotthumbnail.jpg
>
>C. Burn an American flag?
>
>http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4974623456_065dd43c2f.jpg
>
>D. Falsify another draft registration card?
>
>http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-
>WSCP6icOGQ4/T6lXNe3mgJI/AAAAAAAAEpA/0LKgnxpcAog/s640/SSA.jpg
>
>E. Take the oath of Marxism again on national TV?
>
>http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000591437/polls_6a00e008c6b4e58
>8340115710e770f970c_320pi_5506_606034_poll_xlarge.jpeg
>
>F. Pardon homosexual traitor Bradley Manning for selling out his
>homeland?
>
>http://antzinpantz.com/kns/images/Nov10/obama-manning.jpg
>
>G. Lie about his command of Seal Team 6 during the execution of
>Osama Bin Laden? Again?
>
>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-
>Ght3r0sVtb0/T6WGDCrYImI/AA
>AAAAAADk0/BPAFrEhmYQU/s1600/obamasealteam6credit.jpg
>
>H: Out every single member of Seal Team 6 to kiss Hollywood fag
>ass for political donations? Again?
>
>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-
>17K3QM1vjF8/T6CXwL7tQaI/AAAAAAAAvZA/c1Bsj2wgKho/s1600/120501-
>seal-team-six-obama.jpg
>
>I: Out every single member of Seal Team 6 for a cheap photo op
>despite families asking him not to do so?
>
>http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UVgjGksS4H8/TnShmfm1OtI/AAAAAAAAA2I/ee-
>_LjDhccQ/s1600/185499_1912553725823_1001292338_31507047_1131018_n
>jpg
>
>J: Piss on the 200-year-old constitution of the United States Of
>America? Again?
>
>http://i.qkme.me/3oljd3.jpg
>
>K: Lie about his birth certificate again?
>
>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4F7FHZurD40/TH75Gx-
>Ym4I/AAAAAAAAAEA/gCWyyFVel6E/s1600/COLB_Parody.bmp
>
>
>

--
"If Barack Obama isn't careful, he will become the Jimmy Carter of the
21st century."

[Al]

In article <dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de>,
denn...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-90...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> <laugh> Don't try to weasel out of Bush's (actually his puppeteer Dick
> Cheney's) war by claiming the Dems were responsible, even partially.
> Whatever the Dems said about Iraq before Bush they were also smart enough
> to realize it didn't warrant a full scale invasion.

But they voted for it anyway.

With all due respect, I've had this same argument now thousands of times in
the past decade.

You can and will believe anything you want about Bush and the wars, whatever
makes you feel good, or right, or righteous.

But, face it, it's way too late to stop the invasion, and Bush going to
jail, you already lost the argument.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> "Us."- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yup,thats what I said. A turd.

[Ivonne S Gibbons]

Sir Gay is an unidentified imposter (sock puppet) and scores 9.4 on
the Faggotry Meter. (Which strongly suggests he is a sock puppet of
Fwanklin Hummer, although others suggest he is a sock of Retardia or
Lickin' Ass.) Sir Gay is mostly a public imbecile, a proven liar and
an ultra-left butthurt faggot.

[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:43:30 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ray
<waterb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 4, 8:43 am, Birdman <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-accuses-gop-majority-house-atte...
>CNS news, baby. Now that's a trustworthy source (NOT).

Oops! Caught lying...

You FAILED to CITE where cnsnews.com has published lies or false
claims...

If you intended to state your otherwise worthless personal opinion YOU
FAILED to do so.

[Erlinda Sheffield]

Real name Erika. A 4' 6" pygmy nigger, probably wider than she is
tall.

Robert W Westergom (59 years old)
Erika Westergom (Borders in Chestnut Hill, PA)
1900 Harvey Rd
Wilmington, DE 19810
302-475-5496

She claims to live in Philly but has never posted from Philly. She
mainly posts from a Delaware Public Library or a Barnes & Noble in the
Wilmington, DE, area using free wifi. She also uses free Google
Groups on a borrowed laptop. In her entire life she has contributed
absolutely nothing to society. Lies frequently but after many
beatings has become another usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have
been exposed, frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo
monkey who sits in the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying
nothing of value. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

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[Lela Joseph Mello]

Sir Gay is an unidentified imposter (sock puppet) and scores 9.4 on
the Faggotry Meter. (Which strongly suggests he is a sock puppet of
Fwanklin Hummer, although others suggest he is a sock of Retardia or
Lickin' Ass.) Sir Gay is mostly a public imbecile, a proven liar and
an ultra-left butthurt faggot.

[][][][][][]

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"Why do you always LIE?"

[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:44:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ray
<waterb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 11, 9:09 am, "patriotga...@democrathallofshame.com
>http://www.democrathallofshame.com"
><patriotga...@democrathallofshame.com> wrote:
>> http://mobile.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSBRE8390ZW20120410
>> Drugs help some women with incontinence
>> Tue, Apr 10 2012
>>Re: DemocRAT Health Update - Drugs Help Some 'RAT Women Avoid
>>Peeing On Themselves ('Lickin' Ass and Fakin' Military Service'
>>MUST READ!)
>So Patriot, you claim only Democratic women will benefit from this
>drug, do you? (at least that's what your thread title states).

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What part pf "some" do you think means "ALL?"

Why are you so fucking stupid???????????????

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[V G. Porras]

Real name Erika. A 4' 6" pygmy nigger, probably wider than she is
tall.

Robert W Westergom (59 years old)
Erika Westergom (Borders in Chestnut Hill, PA)
1900 Harvey Rd
Wilmington, DE 19810
302-475-5496

She claims to live in Philly but has never posted from Philly. She
mainly posts from a Delaware Public Library or a Barnes & Noble in the
Wilmington, DE, area using free wifi. She also uses free Google
Groups on a borrowed laptop. In her entire life she has contributed
absolutely nothing to society. Lies frequently but after many
beatings has become another usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have
been exposed, frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo
monkey who sits in the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying
nothing of value. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

[][][][][][]

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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:43:47 -0700 (PDT), robw <nodd...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Tell us the last time a Repub was mayor of Philly.

Why would you care? You don't live in Philly, you have never lived in
Philly, you have never posted from Philly, you live in Delaware and
have only posted from Delaware. No one knows why you hate Delaware
and pretend to be from Philly but that LIE was exposed looong ago...

Anyway...

1952.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Philadelphia

>Tell us how Philly was so pro Obama that it nearly
>carried the entire state.

Oops! Caught lying...

Population, Philadelphia: 1,528,306
Population, Pennsylvania: 12,742,886
www.google.com/publicdata

Philadelphia, Obama: 595,980 votes
Pennsylvania, Obama: 3,276,363 votes
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=28

18.2% is NOT "nearly carried the entire state."

[Kristin Samson]

Real name Erika. A 4' 6" pygmy nigger, probably wider than she is
tall.

Robert W Westergom (59 years old)
Erika Westergom (Borders in Chestnut Hill, PA)
1900 Harvey Rd
Wilmington, DE 19810
302-475-5496

She claims to live in Philly but has never posted from Philly. She
mainly posts from a Delaware Public Library or a Barnes & Noble in the
Wilmington, DE, area using free wifi. She also uses free Google
Groups on a borrowed laptop. In her entire life she has contributed
absolutely nothing to society. Lies frequently but after many
beatings has become another usenet zoo monkey. Liars, once they have
been exposed, frequently revert to behavior most similar to a zoo
monkey who sits in the cage throwing feces at passersby but saying
nothing of value. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Mon, 28 May 2012 05:51:13 -0700 (PDT), robw <nodd...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Philly is known as the "Cradle of Liberty"

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Faneuil Hall, located near the waterfront and today's Government
Center, in Boston, Massachusetts, has been a marketplace and a meeting
hall since 1742. .... It is sometimes referred to as "the Cradle of
Liberty".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faneuil_Hall

[Damon Somers]

Frauds are Exposed:

Scott Allen Salberg (50; 8/3/61)
488 NW 17th Pl
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33311

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?Usenet-Legends bobandcarole ???? <usenetle...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Would you care to explain to usenet just who you assaulted on 2-8-2005
>in Broward County? Was it somebody who wouldn't give up some asshole
>perhaps or maybe your violent tendencies
>caused you to strike a family member like your old mother? That would
>be unfortunate considering she has one foot in the grave and the other
>on a banana peel anyway.
>
>This is your chance to clear your conscience and tell the truth for a
>change although we already KNOW you ARE a violent criminal AND forger
>so lying only ruins your credibility but it's already ruined so bad
>you will never be believable again..
>
>Oh, in case ya forgot..
>
>That's case number: 050003025MM10A

05003025MM10A

>Record ID: FLBroward 18053
>Case ID: FLBroward 180531
>Offense Desc: BATTERY
>Convicted by: PLEA
>
>Birthdate: 8-3-61 That IS your birth date, right? :-)
>
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[Igor]

On 5/27/2012 11:03 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
> On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
>> Will he,
>>
>
>
> It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem will
> stoop to in order to tear down another person.

That's why Obama has more negative campaign ads than any candidate in
history.
>
> Your lies say a lot about more about you than it can ever say about Obama.

The truth about the narcissist serial liar Obama is even worse than the
lies.

>
> What is it? Does the fact that he has a bigger penis threaten you in
> some way? It must.

Ask Obama's homosexual partners, Larry Sinclair, Reggie Love, Ricky
Martin, and George Clooney.

It's the only reason I can see for people like you to
> spew your hate.
>
> It's tearing your nation apart and you're too stupid to see it.

What's tearing the country apart is a Marxis, Muslim, incompetent,
bitter anti-White President Obama.

[Igor]

> Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest. Forget about
> reasoned arguments, and prepare for invectives, and posing.
>
OK, let's talk about the positive things Obama has done for the US.

..............I'm thinking, hold your breath.

[Al]

Stayed on the fund raising trail more than any other presidents, combined.

Between that and golf, he doesn't spend much time at he office, which is
huge plus for America.

[Igor]

> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large

[Igor]

> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large


> ..
>
>

[Igor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large

[Igor]

> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large


>

[Billy]

In article <jq5pc7$nn9$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>, Igor <ig...@irogmail.com>
wrote:

I bet I can hold my breath longer than you can think. Obamacare requires
insurance companies to spend 80% of there premiums on direct health
care. He is supporting civil rights for everyone. He hasn't completely
gutted welfare yet, and has been able to stimulate the economy a little.
I sure there was something else, but I can't remember what it is.
Otherwise, he has been a freakin' disaster, worthy of Dubya.

<http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/18/112346/obama-ran-against-bush-but-
now.html>

Obama ran against Bush, but now governs like him

By Steven Thomma | McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON ã He ran as the anti-Bush.

Silver-tongued, not tongue-tied. A team player on the world stage, not a
lone cowboy. A man who'd put a stop to reckless Bush policies at home
and abroad. In short, Barack Obama represented Change.

Well, that was then. Now, on one major policy after another, President
Barack Obama seems to be morphing into George W. Bush.

On the nation's finances, the man who once ripped Bush as a failed
leader for seeking to raise the nation's debt ceiling now wants to do it
himself.

On terrorism, he criticized Bush for sending suspected terrorists to
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and denying them access to U.S. civilian courts.
Now he says he'll do the same.

On taxes, he called the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy wrong, and
lately began calling again to end them. But in December he signed a deal
with Republicans to extend them for two years, and recently he called
the entire tax cut package good for the country.

And on war, as a candidate he said that the president didn't have
authority to unilaterally attack a country that didn't pose an imminent
threat to the U.S., and even then the president should always seek the
informed consent of Congress. Last month, without a vote in Congress, he
attacked Libya, which didn't threaten the U.S.

Big differences remain between Obama and Bush, to be sure. His two
nominees to the Supreme Court differ vastly from Bush's picks. Obama
does want to end the tax cuts for the wealthy. He also pushed through a
massive overhaul of the nation's health insurance system.

Yet even on health insurance, his stand wasn't so much a reversal of
Bush's approach as an escalation. Bush also pushed through a massive
expansion of Medicare by adding a costly prescription drug benefit ã at
the time, the biggest expansion of a federal entitlement since Lyndon
Johnson's Great Society. Indeed, some of the differences between the two
presidents are measured in gray, not black and white as once seemed the
case.

Some of the changes in Obama can be attributed to the passion of
campaign rhetoric giving way to the realities of governing, analysts say.
"He is looking less like a candidate and more like a president," said
Dan Schnur, the director of the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at
the University of Southern California. "He has discovered that it's much
easier to make promises on the campaign trail than it is to keep them as
president."

At the same time, some of the surprising continuity of Bush-era policies
can be tied to the way Bush and events set the nation's course,
particularly on foreign policy.

"Morphing into Bush was not a willful act," said Aaron David Miller, a
scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "It was
acquiescence to the policies his predecessor shaped and the cruel
realities that Obama inherited."

For example, Obama found he couldn't easily close the prison at
Guantanamo Bay because he couldn't find a place, abroad or at home,
willing to take all the terrorist suspects held there.

"Bush created, on the military and security side, new realities from
which no successor, Democrat or Republican, could depart, "Miller said.
"It's like turning around an aircraft carrier. It cannot happen quickly."

Among the ways Obama has reversed his earlier promises and adopted,
extended or echoed Bush policies:

DEBT

In 2006, Bush had cut taxes, gone to war, and expanded Medicare, and
increased the national debt from $5.6 trillion to $8.2 trillion. He
needed approval from Congress to raise the ceiling for debt to $9
trillion.

The Senate approved the increase by a narrow vote of 52-48.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., voted no.

"Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally,"
Obama said in 2006. "Leadership means that 'the buck stops here.'
Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the
backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and
a failure of leadership."

Now Obama's on the other side. He's increased the national debt to $14
trillion, and needs Congress to approve more debt. Moreover, Obama's
aides now say that congressional meddling to use that needed vote to
wrangle budget concessions from the White House would be inappropriate
and risk financial Armageddon.

What about Obama's own vote against the president in a similar
situation? A mistake, the White House said.

TAXES

As a senator and presidential candidate, Obama opposed extending the
Bush tax cuts on incomes greater than $250,000 a year past their
expiration on Dec., 31, 2009.

In 2007, he said he was for "rolling back the Bush tax cuts on the top 1
percent of people who don't need it." In a 2008 ad, he said, "Instead of
extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest, I'll focus on you."

As president, Obama proposed letting those tax cuts expire as scheduled,
while also proposing to make permanent the Bush tax cuts for incomes of
less than $250,000.

But he didn't get Congress to approve that. When the issue came to a
head last December, Republicans insisted on extending all of the tax
cuts or none, and Obama went along lest the tax cuts on incomes below
$250,000 expire even briefly. His final deal with the Congress also
added a one-year cut in the payroll tax for Medicare and Social Security.
"What all of us care about is growing the American economy and creating
jobs for the American people," Obama said. "Taken as a whole, that's
what this package of tax relief is going to do. It's a good deal for the
American people."

He said again last week that he wants to let the Bush tax cuts for the
wealthy expire, this time on Dec. 31, 2012.

TERRORISTS

As a presidential candidate, Obama vowed a broad reversal of Bush's
policies toward suspected terrorists.

Most pointedly, he said he'd close the prison in Cuba and try suspected
terrorists in civilian courts, not in military tribunals.

"I have faith in America's courts," he said in a 2007 speech. "As
president, I will close Guantanamo, reject the Military Commissions Act,
and adhere to the Geneva Conventions. Our Constitution and our Uniform
Code of Military Justice provide a framework for dealing with the
terrorists."
He ran into a torrent of opposition, however. Members of Congress balked
at transferring suspected terrorists to U.S. prisons. New Yorkers balked
when his administration said it would try accused 9/11 mastermind Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed in a civilian court in lower Manhattan.

Last month, he changed course, saying he'd keep Guantanamo Bay open, and
would try Mohammed before a military court.

The reversal, said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., the chairman of the House
Committee on Homeland Security, "is yet another vindication of President
Bush's detention policies by the Obama administration."

Echoing Bush, Obama's also asserted that he has the power to hold
suspected terrorists without charges or trial, and that he has the power
to kill U.S. citizens abroad if his government considers them a
terrorist threat.

WAR POWERS

During his campaign, Obama signaled that he'd be far more circumspect
than Bush was in using military power. He did say he'd send more troops
to Afghanistan, which he's done, and that he'd attack al Qaida
terrorists in Pakistan, which he's also done.

But he opposed the Iraq war from the start, and said he didn't think the
president should wage war for humanitarian purposes or act without
congressional approval, absent an imminent threat to the U.S.

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to
unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not
involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation," he told
The Boston Globe in 2007.
"In instances of self-defense, the president would be within his
constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its
consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military
action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the
legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent
of Congress prior to any military action."

On March 19, the U.S. attacked Libya on humanitarian grounds, absent any
threat to the U.S. and without approval from Congress.
----

And when a drone from Yourmuthersbad takes him out, we will all
recognize it as karma.

--
E Pluribus Unum

Know where your money is tonight?
It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable.


The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama."
Vote 3rd Party

[Billy]

In article <albert.finney000-F5...@news.giganews.com>,

I guess it's not as constructive as cutting weeds in Crawford, Texas.

[Al]

In article
<wildbilly-97E47...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-F5...@news.giganews.com>,
> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <jq5pc7$nn9$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>, Igor <ig...@irogmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest. Forget about
> > > > reasoned arguments, and prepare for invectives, and posing.
> > > >
> > > OK, let's talk about the positive things Obama has done for the US.
> > >
> > > ..............I'm thinking, hold your breath.
> >
> >
> > Stayed on the fund raising trail more than any other presidents, combined.
> >
> > Between that and golf, he doesn't spend much time at he office, which is
> > huge plus for America.
>
> I guess it's not as constructive as cutting weeds in Crawford, Texas.

Which will probably give Obama the edge over Bush in the coming election.

[Billy]

In article <albert.finney000-07...@news.giganews.com>,

Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article

> <wildbilly-D9C6D...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <albert.finney000-DB...@news.giganews.com>,

> > Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article

> > > <c8c93551-b986-4c12...@e18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Kickin&amp;amp;#39; Ass and Takin&amp;amp;#39; Names"
> > > <old_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On May 27, 2:11 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <nbudnbxNPOof8V SnZ2dnUVZ gadn...@supernews.com>,

> > > > >  cloud dreamer <TJM....@really.small.penis> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 27/05/2012 3:07 PM, Gary A. Andresson wrote:
> > > > > > > Will he,
> > > > >
> > > > > > It truly amazes me what lengths people with such low self-esteem
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > stoop to in order to tear down another person.
> > > > >

> > > > > "How dare you insult dear Leader!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dear Leader?"
> > > >
> > > > You mean THIS Dear Leader?
> > > > http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushourleader.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now THAT was a leader. 50,000,000 liberated. full employment. The googd
> > > olds
> > > days, before Communism.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But where are the little children's videos, the cute ones where they sing
> > > songs of loyalty and devotion and hopes and expectations, that their
> > > parents
> > > wrote for them?
> > >
> > > No-one did that for Bush.
> > >
> > >
> > > Even the adults made musical videos of their love. How many did Bush have
> > > back when he was running? None.
> > >
> > > And the youth Corps, were their several cammie-clad youth groups
> > > performing
> > > militaristic chants of loyalty to Bush?
> > >
> > > None.
> > >
> > > So yeah, that billboard, THAT is your fascism. LOL.
> > >
> > > No wonder leftists have such an impressive history of falling in love
> > > with
> > > fascism, no matter HOW many times it beats you.

> >
> > Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest.
>
>

> I take it you disagree with my statement.
>
> Can I ask why?

Numero-uno: Obama governs like Dubya, only with more drones.

Numero-two-o: Extreme leftists are anarchists with no recognizable form
of government. It is extreme rightists that centralize
control (dictators, kings, fascists). I think you are
confuse with the costumes that oligarchies around the
world have used. We don't have a democracy. The Russians,
and the Chinese didn't have Communism. All countries, with
the possible exception of Bolivia, are run by a small
clique of very rich people, and they tell their citizens
that "they are the best", so give us your taxes, and leave
us alone while we determine what is best for you.

Vote Democrat or Republican, and management may change, but ownership
will remain the same.

Our only real choice is 3rd Party.

[Al]

In article
<wildbilly-7878B...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

He could govern like Stain, and his followers would love him even more.

[George Kerby]

On 6/3/12 3:55 PM, in article
wildbilly-97E47...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au, "Billy"

<wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-F5...@news.giganews.com>,
> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <jq5pc7$nn9$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>, Igor <ig...@irogmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest. Forget about
>>>> reasoned arguments, and prepare for invectives, and posing.
>>>>
>>> OK, let's talk about the positive things Obama has done for the US.
>>>
>>> ..............I'm thinking, hold your breath.
>>
>>
>> Stayed on the fund raising trail more than any other presidents, combined.
>>
>> Between that and golf, he doesn't spend much time at he office, which is
>> huge plus for America.
>
> I guess it's not as constructive as cutting weeds in Crawford, Texas.

No it isn't. Cutting weeds is good exercise and has a positive result. Both
something you know nothing, Billy. You got you illegals to mow, blow and go,
while you putt around, doncha?

[Billy]

In article <albert.finney000-49...@news.giganews.com>,

You failed to notice the picture was under political humor.
But really Dubya was a joke, but he wasn't funny.
Like the lady said,"When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But where are the little children's videos, the cute ones where they
> > > > > sing
> > > > > songs of loyalty and devotion and hopes and expectations, that their
> > > > > parents
> > > > > wrote for them?
> > > > >
> > > > > No-one did that for Bush.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Even the adults made musical videos of their love. How many did Bush
> > > > > have
> > > > > back when he was running? None.
> > > > >
> > > > > And the youth Corps, were their several cammie-clad youth groups
> > > > > performing
> > > > > militaristic chants of loyalty to Bush?
> > > > >
> > > > > None.
> > > > >
> > > > > So yeah, that billboard, THAT is your fascism. LOL.
> > > > >
> > > > > No wonder leftists have such an impressive history of falling in love
> > > > > with
> > > > > fascism, no matter HOW many times it beats you.
> > > >
> > > > Must be an election year. The loons are out in earnest.
> > >
> > >
> > > I take it you disagree with my statement.
> > >
> > > Can I ask why?
> >
> > Numero-uno: Obama governs like Dubya, only with more drones.

<http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/18/112346/obama-ran-against-bush-but-
now.html>
Obama ran against Bush, but now governs like him

>

> He could govern like Stain, and his followers would love him even more.

No facts to support that assertion in evidence. Just shoveling this out
of you backside?

Obama supporters were hoping for a change in American politics. I think
most of them are not going to vote this time, or find a third party
candidate. I voted McKinny/Clemente.

Of course Romney supporters have to decide if they want a "Structural
Adjustment Program" for the U.S. It sure isn't going to mean more jobs,
and high wages. If anybody has any skills at all, they should think
about moving to Germany where unemployment is low. Unions are strong,
and wages are high.

Throughout the 1980s and 1990s the U.S. has been a principal force in
imposing Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) on most countries of the
South. Starting in the 1980s, the U.S. also routinely began conditioning
its aid agreements on acceptance of a package of economic reforms and
adherence to the prescriptions of the World Bank and IMF. In addition,
U.S. trade representatives began to insist on changes in other nations¹
economic policies to facilitate increased U.S. trade and investment.
SAPs usually include several basic components geared toward reducing
inflation, promoting exports, meeting debt-payment schedules, and
decreasing budget deficits. They generally entail severe reductions in
government spending and employment, higher interest rates, currency
devaluation, lower real wages, sale of government enterprises, reduced
tariffs, and liberalization of foreign investment regulations.

SAPs share a common objective: to move countries away from self-directed
models of national development that focus on the domestic market and
toward outward-looking development models that stress the importance of
complete integration into the dominant global structures of trade,
finance, and production. Largely championed by the Reagan administration
and Margaret Thatcher¹s government in Britain, the neoliberal principles
that shape SAPs gained prominence in the IFIs (International financial
institutions) in the 1980s. The neoliberal philosophy of economic
development revived the old precepts of economic liberalism, which hold
that an unregulated free market and private sector are the engines for
unrestricted growth, the benefits of which will trickle down from the
owners of capital to the entire population.

Virtually all developing countries‹particularly in Latin America and
Africa, and increasingly in the transition countries of east and central
Europe‹have implemented or are in the process of acceding to SAPs. The
economic policies dictated by the IFIs and Washington have greatly
facilitated the process of global economic integration. SAPs have also
largely succeeded inshrinking government budget deficits, eliminating
hyperinflation, and maintaining debt-payment schedules. But while
government balance sheets may improve, SAPs have failed to establish a
base for sustainable, balanced economic development. In their wake, SAPs
have bankrupted local industries, increased dependency on food imports,
gutted social services, and fostered a widening gap between rich and
poor.

SAPs may achieve nominal GDP growth, but it is growth based on
unsustainable resource extraction and the exploitation of cheap labor.

Elites and foreign investors often benefit from tax breaks and
production incentives, while the domestic economy contracts
dramatically, along with the jobs that support the lower and middle
classes.

SAPs often succeed in achieving specific objectives such as privatizing
state enterprises, reducing inflation, and decreasing budget deficits.
Yet in many cases the GDP growth of countries undergoing structural
adjustment is stagnant. The growth that does occur is commonly limited
to a few sectors like raw materials extraction or goods produced with
cheap labor, instead of a more well-rounded and sustainable growth in
production. Even when a SAP-directed economy is growing, it is generally
failing to create employment and generate the revenues needed to pay for
the unregulated influx of foreign imports. Thus, reforms intended to
open countries to foreign trade, investment, and finance may result in
increased exports and greater access to foreign capital, but they also
heighten financial volatility and speculative investment, flood the
affected countries with imported luxury goods, undermine local industry,
and constrict local buying power. SAPs benefit a narrow stratum of the
private sector‹mostly those involved in export production, trade
brokering, and portfolio finance. These winners are usually
well-connected elites and transnational companies.

Layoffs of government workers, wage constraints, higher interest rates,
reduced government spending, and the shutdown of domestic industries all
contribute to the shrinking of the domestic market. The weak state of
the domestic market exacerbates the worsening socioeconomic conditions.
Although there may be a new dynamism in certain elite sectors, social
and economic insecurity deepens for most people in countries subjected
to SAPs. The result can be increasing political instability (such as
riots over food prices), outbreaks of guerrilla violence, and widespread
disaffection with (and nonparticipation in) electoral political systems.

Welcome to the New America.

[Al]

In article <dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de>,
denn...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:

> In article <albert.finney000-10...@news.giganews.com>, Al
> <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> In article

> Well Republicans were still running against Bill Clinton in the 2000
> election (who unlike Shrub was a successful president).

Well, if you consider that Al Gore was a member of the Clinton
administration, he might have been somewhat identified with the Clinton
administration. Dunno why, but there ya' go.

[Al]

In article
<wildbilly-824A9...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

No, I didn't. The link says "politcalhumor" and the web page says "Political
Humor" in 36-point type. Very hard to miss.

I was commenting with some basic history.

> But really Dubya was a joke, but he wasn't funny.

A lot of leftists were very unhappy and frightened during the Bush years,
they still are.

> Like the lady said,"When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".

Did I mention that he's loved in Eastern Europe, and Africa? That's not
funny either.