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Joe S.

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Nov 12, 2003, 10:12:51 PM11/12/03
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Next time some Republiar asshole tells you there is no proof that GWBush was
AWOL; next time some rightwingnut tells you GWBush is a hotshit
pilot - - - - show them these documents from his military record jacket.

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm

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Joe S.


Rev. 11D Meow! © ®

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Thanks...


"Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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SMITH29

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Nov 12, 2003, 11:20:33 PM11/12/03
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xxxx
So, where's the indictment ?
I thought so.....
You dungocrats can post manure all year and the King shall reign a second term.
Now Drop and give me 20 dirt bag!
The29

Bob Harrington

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Nov 12, 2003, 11:35:02 PM11/12/03
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Rev. 11D Meow! © ® wrote:
> Thanks...

Oops... Seems you forgot to provide a copy of the court martial
conviction on the AWOL charge. Maybe you'll find it in your next
wetdream...

unemployed

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SMITH29 <smi...@comcast.net> wrote in
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Yawn

Rev. 11D Meow! © ®

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"SMITH29" <smi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Rev. 11D Meow! © ® wrote:
| > Thanks...
| >
| >
| > "Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:bousr...@enews1.newsguy.com...
| > | Next time some Republiar asshole tells you there is no proof that
GWBush
| > was
| > | AWOL; next time some rightwingnut tells you GWBush is a hotshit
| > | pilot - - - - show them these documents from his military record
jacket.
| > |
| > | http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > | ----
| > | Joe S.
| xxxx
| So, where's the indictment ?
|

The evidence speaks for itself.

George Walker Bush went AWOL
from the National Guard
and that's all there is to say about it, period.


Rev. 11D Meow! © ®

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Nov 13, 2003, 1:16:06 AM11/13/03
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Huh?

Who Cares What Big Fat Dollars From Daddy Can Buy Off!

Harry Grogan

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Nov 13, 2003, 7:07:22 AM11/13/03
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"Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bousr...@enews1.newsguy.com>...

Just to prove you're not just another liberal lunatic how bout'
providing sources to show Clinton's distinguished military record.

Harry Grogan

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Nov 13, 2003, 7:08:18 AM11/13/03
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"Rev. 11D Meow! © ®" <madg...@madgelloFNORDland.org> wrote in message news:<GkFsb.46076$p9.1...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...

> Huh?
>
> Who Cares What Big Fat Dollars From Daddy Can Buy Off!

Clinton's daddy did'nt buy him off because Clinton never knew who his did was.

Brooks Gregory

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Nov 13, 2003, 8:47:24 AM11/13/03
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"Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Joe,

Would you vouch for the authenticity of those documents? Marty
wouldn't.


Marty Heldt
E-mail Address(es):
cold...@cis.net


Hogan's Goat

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:50:11 AM11/13/03
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Here's a cheerful little earful from SMITH29:

You refer to this AWOL drunken frat boy as your King with a capital K?
Get well soon.

Hogan out.

Brooks Gregory

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Nov 13, 2003, 11:26:20 AM11/13/03
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"Hogan's Goat" <ye...@right.com> wrote in message
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The thing that gets your guys goat is that Bush, as far as other countries
are concerned, represents America, and that includes you. Suck it up. A lot
of us had to when Clinton was the big fellow.


Gregory Gadow

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Nov 13, 2003, 12:12:46 PM11/13/03
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Hogan's Goat wrote:

I comfort myself by remembering what American patriots did to the *last*
king who claimed to rule us.
--
Gregory Gadow
tech...@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear

"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin


Tempest

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Nov 13, 2003, 1:22:34 PM11/13/03
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"Hogan's Goat" <ye...@right.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9432507DDC5C...@63.223.5.254>...

Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

Hitler was called a dictator with a capital D.

As the poster with pictures of Bush and Hitler says, "Same Shit,
Different Dictator".

Hogan's Goat

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:29:59 PM11/13/03
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Here's a cheerful little earful from Brooks Gregory:

Yeah, I truly cringe when I think of a red-hot economy, peace and
prosperity, the respect and cooperation of our long-standing allies, and
a sincere attempt at bringing peace in the Middle East, along with all
the other things the Big Dog brought us.

Hogan out.

Brooks Gregory

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:56:06 PM11/13/03
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"Hogan's Goat" <ye...@right.com> wrote in message
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Yea and a lot of you phonies are cringing now because Al Gore was around to
keep the balloons in the air and Clintons juggling act bubble burst. I have
been a long time investor and thank goodness I had sense enough to see
through that scam. Now, I'm doing really good and it's based on real, strong
fundamentals. So, pound your chest for your side and piss on the fire for
ours. I understand your contempt and hope you enjoy it as much as I did back
when your kids were in charge.

Brooks Gregory

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:57:46 PM11/13/03
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Oh, and PS. What happened to all you guys that were going to authenticate
those AWOL documents? Sure seemed to have changed the subject rather
quickly. Why's that?

Castor and Pollux Towers

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Nov 13, 2003, 6:29:03 PM11/13/03
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Gregory Gadow <tech...@serv.net> wrote in message news:<3FB3BB8E...@serv.net>...

What did they do to Elvis?

Tempest

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Nov 13, 2003, 6:36:31 PM11/13/03
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"Rev. 11D Meow! © ®" wrote:
>
> Thanks...

Here's some more:

The truth about George Bush military record: Document photocopies
http://www.talion.com/georgebush.html

DOCUMENT PHOTOCOPY: George W. Bush military record, redacted for
"administrative reasons"
http://www.talion.com/admin.html

DOCUMENT PHOTOCOPY: Agreement signed by George W. Bush to accept
military flying assignments after training (reneged on after disobeying
orders)
http://www.talion.com/signature.html

DOCUMENT PHOTOCOPY: Order to suspend George Bush from flying for failing
to obey an order
http://www.talion.com/suspension.html

DOCUMENT PHOTOCOPY: Evidence that George W. Bush was allowed to
substitute civilian duties for flying duties (VietNam era) following his
refusal to
take physical and drug test
http://www.talion.com/missing.htm

DOCUMENT PHOTOCOPY: Statement specifying disciplinary measures, signed
by George W. Bush
http://www.talion.com/signature2.html

DOCUMENT PHOTOCOPY: Assignment of George W. Bush to disciplinary unit in
Denver
http://www.talion.com/punish.html

--
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act.
- George Orwell

T.Carr

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Nov 13, 2003, 8:24:53 PM11/13/03
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"Brooks Gregory" <brooks...@sbctelco.com> wrote in message news:<MXLsb.4870094$Bf5.6...@news.easynews.com>...

Dont worry.."Joe S" will conviently disappear from the thread.
Thats his MO when challenged

T.Carr

steve2000

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Nov 13, 2003, 9:59:25 PM11/13/03
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"Hogan's Goat" <ye...@right.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94328B5E7E2A...@63.223.5.254>...

The WHAT??? Just about every country whose heart went out in sympathy
to the USA after 9/11 now regard your Idiot President and his Oil grab
with loathing. But, to be fair, Halliburton respects Bush.

steve --

Hogan's Goat

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:19:57 AM11/14/03
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Here's a cheerful little earful from steve2000:

Not so fast, Steve. I was waxing nostalgic over the day when we could
elect our own President, most people had a job, and the rest of the world
didn't hate us and our Unelected Idiot.

Hogan out.

Rev. 11D Meow! © ®

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:51:55 AM11/14/03
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Bob Harrington

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Nov 14, 2003, 4:17:11 AM11/14/03
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...And there was still the occasional liberal that could string two
neurons together...


Bob Harrington

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Nov 14, 2003, 4:21:15 AM11/14/03
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They tied him up and tossed him on that golldurned a-leen mothership,
that's what they done to Elvis!


steve2000

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Nov 14, 2003, 5:26:29 AM11/14/03
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maynardgk...@hotmail.com (Harry Grogan) wrote in message news:<1bdd8f88.03111...@posting.google.com>...


Clinton dodged the draft. Shrub dodged the draft. Most rich folks
dodged the draft. Bush, like Clinton, is a coward AND a liar.

See? Problem solved.
sx

Rev. 11D Meow! © ®

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Nov 14, 2003, 5:59:12 AM11/14/03
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Ahhhh, more proof the initials B. H. continue to mean BLOW HARD!.


SPQR

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maynardgk...@hotmail.com (Harry Grogan) wrote in message news:<1bdd8f88.03111...@posting.google.com>...


Well, in case you have not noticed, Clinton is no longer President.
Clinton's lack of a military record is not the issue here.

The issue here is that GWBush is a liar. He has lied his entire life.
He lied about his military record. The record shows that he was AWOL
from his unit, that he failed to participate in drills, and that his
claims to the contrary are more lies.

>>>>
SPQR
<<<<

SPQR

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TCarr...@aol.com (T.Carr) wrote in message news:<8c213b2e.03111...@posting.google.com>...

I take great delight in reading the exchanges between "T Carr" and
"Joe S." My take on it is that "Joe S" drops a bomb on "T Carr" then
walks away because nothing further needs to be said. Sort of like
wrestling with pigs -- what's the point? Everybody gets dirty,
nothing is solved, but the pig loves it.

I am a retired Army veteran and I looked at the documents posted on
the website. Look good to me.

>>>>
SPQR
<<<<

Castor and Pollux Towers

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Nov 14, 2003, 11:21:06 AM11/14/03
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"Bob Harrington" <r...@blarg.net> wrote in message news:<f81tb.146775$9E1.747863@attbi_s52>...

Was this before or after they replaced him with that fat guy?

T.Carr

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PopUl...@hotmail.com (SPQR) wrote in message news:<2baf42ad.03111...@posting.google.com>...

> TCarr...@aol.com (T.Carr) wrote in message news:<8c213b2e.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> > "Brooks Gregory" <brooks...@sbctelco.com> wrote in message news:<MXLsb.4870094$Bf5.6...@news.easynews.com>...
> > > "Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bousr...@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Next time some Republiar asshole tells you there is no proof that GWBush
> was
> > > > AWOL; next time some rightwingnut tells you GWBush is a hotshit
> > > > pilot - - - - show them these documents from his military record jacket.
> > > >
> > > > http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Joe S.
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > Would you vouch for the authenticity of those documents? Marty
> > > wouldn't.
> >
> > Dont worry.."Joe S" will conviently disappear from the thread.
> > Thats his MO when challenged
> >
> > T.Carr
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Marty Heldt
> > > E-mail Address(es):
> > > cold...@cis.net
>
> I take great delight in reading the exchanges between "T Carr" and
> "Joe S." My take on it is that "Joe S" drops a bomb on "T Carr" then
> walks away because nothing further needs to be said.

Actually when rebutted, "JoeS" ususally wanders off to another
thread

Sort of like
> wrestling with pigs -- what's the point? Everybody gets dirty,
> nothing is solved, but the pig loves it.
>
> I am a retired Army veteran and I looked at the documents posted on
> the website. Look good to me.

Then look at Brooks Gregorys comment above
You will note the silence from your buddy "Joe S"

http://www.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=2baf42ad.0311140500.3faf0806%40posting.google.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.politics%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D14%26as_minm%3D11%26as_miny%3D2003%26as_maxd%3D14%26as_maxm%3D11%26as_maxy%3D2003%26start%3D75

fwiw..Thanks for your service to our country


T.Carr

>
> >>>>
> SPQR
> <<<<

Brooks Gregory

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"T.Carr" <TCarr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Really?????? You have got to be kidding!

Brooks Gregory

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I'll tell you what. You go here, and see if, using all your military
experience, you can see the most obvious alteration in this document. Then,
we can take them one by one, and I will check out your military expertise on
each of them, and correct your errors for you. Want to do that?

http://www.kings.edu/twsawyer/awol/docs/doc10.gif

This is the easiest and the one that made me challenge Marty face to face.
And he has yet to this day been able to authenticate these documents but he
keeps trying to sell them to uninformed and maybe he does make a buck every
now and then, but I just can not believe that anyone that got past basic
training could not see the glaring discrepancies in these documents.

Harry Grogan

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If your dog shits on the carpet in your doublewide then runs into
the street and gets squashed by a dumptruck he may not still be alive
but his feces is still stinking to high heavan you friggin pinhead.Ya'
get my drift or do I need to spell it out to ya'?

Joe S.

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"T.Carr" <TCarr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> PopUl...@hotmail.com (SPQR) wrote in message
news:<2baf42ad.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> > TCarr...@aol.com (T.Carr) wrote in message
news:<8c213b2e.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> > > "Brooks Gregory" <brooks...@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:<MXLsb.4870094$Bf5.6...@news.easynews.com>...
> > > > "Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bousr...@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > > Next time some Republiar asshole tells you there is no proof that
GWBush
> > was
> > > > > AWOL; next time some rightwingnut tells you GWBush is a hotshit
> > > > > pilot - - - - show them these documents from his military record
jacket.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > ----
> > > > > Joe S.
> > > >
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > Would you vouch for the authenticity of those documents? Marty
> > > > wouldn't.
> > >
> > > Dont worry.."Joe S" will conviently disappear from the thread.
> > > Thats his MO when challenged
> > >
> > > T.Carr


Well, T. Carr, let's see who disappears. Two points.

1. 2300 hrs EST, 15 Nov 2003. Have your sorry ass in the parking lot of
the Rocking Horse Saloon, Highway 11W between Bristol and Kingsport. Look
for the white Dodge 1-ton dually. Come on over and visit the guy standing
next to the truck, tell him how he disappears when the shit gets thick.
Have your medical insurance paid.

2. Will I vouch for the authenticity of the documents? Tell you what,
asshole, you vouch for the authenticity of this document:
http://home1.gte.net/ceyoung/Letter.htm
If it's authentic, the Bush AWOL documents are authentic. If it's not
authentic, I'll give you the Bush documents.

Your call.

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Joe S.

T.Carr

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"Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bp3sl...@enews2.newsguy.com>...

Joe S." <maxle...@hotmail.com

> Well, T. Carr, let's see who disappears. Two points.
>
> 1. 2300 hrs EST, 15 Nov 2003. Have your sorry ass in the parking lot of
> the Rocking Horse Saloon, Highway 11W between Bristol and Kingsport. Look
> for the white Dodge 1-ton dually. Come on over and visit the guy standing
> next to the truck, tell him how he disappears when the shit gets thick.
> Have your medical insurance paid.

Oh..I'm shaking.. How about you drive north of the Mason-Dixon line
and bring your lawyer while you are at it
I dont take kindly to threats and the first thing I'll sue for is
your truck, House ,and anything else of value.

If I'm feeling generous I'll give you a bus ticket home

You want to play here..fine
If you cant stand the heat of your BS continually being debunked
leave, or follow your usual MO and disappear

>
> 2. Will I vouch for the authenticity of the documents? Tell you what,
> asshole, you vouch for the authenticity of this document:
> http://home1.gte.net/ceyoung/Letter.htm
> If it's authentic, the Bush AWOL documents are authentic. If it's not
> authentic, I'll give you the Bush documents.

I have read Brooks Gregory rebuttal of the documents and note your
inability to discuss the specifics.

That provides all the evidence I need to conclude the "documents"
are bunk

>
> Your call.

How about you threaten Mr Gregory and answer the specifics..after
all you have had 28 tears in the military and are a "expert"

Or is this where you "disappear" again?


T.Carr

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