Islam or Puritanism - which cult the more dangerous
Andy
Calvinists..
Now I don't see a lot of difference between Puritan , Zionist and
Islamic fundementalist society. You get the racism, sexism and moral
hypocrasy.
A true religion, including mainstream Christianity , Judaism,
Hinduism , Paganism and Buddhism gives men and women a 50/50 say in
social direction.
The UK from the late 1950's till the mid 1990's was making steady
progress at achieving a sexually balanced society - one that achieves
longterm peace and stability.
Then came the "lad" movement fuelled by strong alcohol, UK measures
and crap US and Aussie TV. Started noticing it in 1989.
TV is just so fucking warped by white overseas "Anglo" culture- it's
Anglo not English (class/caste system is very different to homegrown
UK) . I mean would you find Kelle and Jason in Ramsey Street? No
they'd be confined to a trailer park in those days on the edge of
Sydney somewhere....
Australia has made real progress lately , starting with Cathy Freeman
as one of the first native Aussie stars... And Obama has shown America
can give the top job to a person of colour. It's called Meritocracy...
UK Muslims generally either confine themselves to ghettos or integrate
fully, including marriage. As do and did the Jews, Turks, Gypsies and
Chinese since time began. Afro-Carribean / Latin American groups are
**very** well integrated in SE England...
The Puritans seek not just isolation like the Amish etc, but dominance
of surrounding ethnic groups and religions.... And they want little
brown people do do the hard work for them, even the inventing these
days, whilst they enjoy the beers and barbies...
Sorry, but it ain't on. This religion is the UK's number 1 problem-
look at Northern Ireland / Western Scotland for instance - and in
England where it's really got bad of late, especially now Obama's on
the throne stateside and things are improving in Israel. The US/Aussie
Puritan/Zionist lobby backed by Murdoch etc is destabilising ethnic
tensions here and a LOT of people are getting seriously HURT.
Look at the language such as "we've lost London" .. Who is we? It
ain't the people I grew up with- racist bullying etc ended in their
teens for most kids - i.e. growing up... "British girls are slags,
slappers , dole cheats, tarts etc etc" - are these REALLY British men
saying this. Why...
If Puritans/Calvinists wish to live in their own segrated community ,
fine , but proportional to their numbers please, and with no more than
their fair share of resources, and paying their own way without
exploiting the neighbours or belittling them..
Two of the most laughed at MPs were George Galloway and his
predecessor , Oona King ... One Muslim-Christian , one Jewish-
Christian. Both understood England and London well, and showed a lot
of intelligent people that politics and showbiz are just the same
thing...
Please listen to the people of London and Essex - our culuture and
"race" is just that - ourselves - not white, Asian , black whatever ,
but Human.
Sam
wrote:
Andy, why don't you send that rant to Mr Choudary?
Andy
newspapers not your own parents, obviously, and by TV AFTER it got
really shit too.
White with a capital W isn't a race, it's a cult as far as I'm
concerned - the Cult Of The Daily Mail Reader - condemn anyone even
those who help you and persecute anyone who asks questions...
If you wish to practise your cult , please do it in reservations, not
mainstream England. It is anti-women and anti-love. Not a real life
civilisation but a sham fed by greed, lies, shame , guilt and fear.
Equality yes. Justice yes. Freedom yes. Tolerance yes. The right to
rape my womenfolk just because your dad did, no!
Sam
wrote:
O...K.
What we have here is a person suffering from a cognitive meltdown.
Tell me, do the voices increase when you inject, or do they lessen?
BTW, I have heard that Taliban are looking for Human torches, to help
in the night fighting. I hope you don't mind, but I put you down as a
potential candidate. You seem to have all the criterion needed to be
a successful human torch. Not sure about the pay. I assume you will
be on price if you are successful in your application lol
Andy
Mentalguy2k8
"Andy" <andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:4a342f6b-0c37-459f...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> How come there's all this stuff written about Muslims but not Puritans/
> Calvinists..
>
> Now I don't see a lot of difference between Puritan , Zionist and
> Islamic fundementalist society. You get the racism, sexism and moral
> hypocrasy.
>
> A true religion, including mainstream Christianity , Judaism,
> Hinduism , Paganism and Buddhism gives men and women a 50/50 say in
> social direction.
>
> The UK from the late 1950's till the mid 1990's was making steady
> progress at achieving a sexually balanced society - one that achieves
> longterm peace and stability.
>
> Then came the "lad" movement fuelled by strong alcohol, UK measures
> and crap US and Aussie TV. Started noticing it in 1989.
>
> TV is just so fucking warped by white overseas "Anglo" culture- it's
> Anglo not English (class/caste system is very different to homegrown
> UK) . I mean would you find Kelle and Jason in Ramsey Street? No
> they'd be confined to a trailer park in those days on the edge of
> Sydney somewhere....
>
> Australia has made real progress lately , starting with Cathy Freeman
> as one of the first native Aussie stars... And Obama has shown America
> can give the top job to a person of colour. It's called Meritocracy...
Agreed, it's disgraceful that Great Britain hasn't ever been represented by
a non-white person at the Olympics. All our newsreaders and MP's are white,
too.
Just for research purposes, try publishing a cartoon of Puritans, and one of
Mohammed. Then come back and tell us which one's follower tries to break
into your house and behead you with an axe. Then you'll understand the
difference between the two.
Sam
wrote:
> Why don't you seek an exit counsellor...
No need thugly (colloquial term for fucken ugly) I am already set in
motion.
abelard
please define these people you call 'my womenfolk'
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abelard
<andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Why don't you seek an exit counsellor...
why are you so angry that you want people dead?
i'm trying to make some coherent sense out of your batch
of posting...
fyi that is no easy task
Sam
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:19:03 -0800 (PST), Andy
>
> >Why don't you seek an exit counsellor...
>
> why are you so angry that you want people dead?
>
> i'm trying to make some coherent sense out of your batch
> of posting...
> fyi that is no easy task
>
> --
> energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
> all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
> the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
> good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
> only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
Good luck with that.
Maria
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:00:45 -0800 (PST), Andy
> <andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why is your race foreign, not mine? Because you were raised by TV and
>> newspapers not your own parents, obviously, and by TV AFTER it got
>> really shit too.
>>
>> White with a capital W isn't a race, it's a cult as far as I'm
>> concerned - the Cult Of The Daily Mail Reader - condemn anyone even
>> those who help you and persecute anyone who asks questions...
>>
>> If you wish to practise your cult , please do it in reservations, not
>> mainstream England. It is anti-women and anti-love. Not a real life
>> civilisation but a sham fed by greed, lies, shame , guilt and fear.
>>
>> Equality yes. Justice yes. Freedom yes. Tolerance yes. The right to
>> rape my womenfolk just because your dad did, no!
>
> please define these people you call 'my womenfolk'
>
Perhaps Andy is more tribal than he thought...
Bert Hyman
news:4a342f6b-0c37-459f...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com
Andy <andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> A true religion, including mainstream Christianity , Judaism,
> Hinduism , Paganism and Buddhism gives men and women a 50/50 say in
> social direction.
Is that what makes them "true" and "mainstream?"
> TV is just so fucking warped by white overseas "Anglo" culture-
Oh, I think I understand your problem.
Never mind.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Andy
When you have seen someone very close to you persecuted through the
state through "western" medicene and "social workers" -i.e. being
prescribed drugs that make them a lot worse for just standing up for
your rights in "law". And neighbours too. For just not measuring up to
"Daily Mail" specifications and putting loyalty to family above
loyalty to "Daily Mail Society" and trying to clear the working class
population from Essex villages, by stopping all busses etc etc...
Without a serious criminal record (max fine for all of us was a one
off £50) you see their is a problem.
Making almost illegal to put on a "free" music event etc etc..
Started to get really bad in 1997 just after Diana died..
As an Englishman, what I can say is that their has been an attempt to
pervert the royal linage from the English class model to the (white)
American one - i.e. replace the ruling class with the upper middle
class, and the working class with the underclass.
When you're often talking about very ancient English family linages
being supplanted by recent bastard ones- the "genocide" talked about
is actually being carried out by racist, sexist snobs who have smashed
up marriage by encouraging usuitable partners to "breed" for better
"stock".
QE2 is a good monarch. She's also short and dark, very Jewish or
Latino features, especially with age. English, not Aryan. With a heavy
suntan she'd probably get racist abuse from BNP supporters.
The Diana thing is interesting. The ruling monarch could legally kill
off a "pretender" on her own orders - if anything was done behind her
back against her judgement, this makes the monarchy illegitimate and
the house collapses. Was their another *legitimate* royal baby "given
up" because it didn't fit the Aryan model...
English people don't have race. We have class- upper, middle, lower -
generally the Norman descended Upper and the other tribes as
"commoners". Real royals are real royals becasue they know their life
depends on their subjects.
Colonial arrogance from lower class people in high class positions
abroad created reverse class systems in hotter countries, where the
darker skinned English would look brown in the sun- rather like mixed-
race people. Australia, Southern USA, South Africa etc etc...
US and Australian TV imports tried to create a Anglo-Saxon dominated
apartheid state, dominated by settler-class rather than ruling class.
This just turned brother against brother on religious and political
outlook grounds, and split up families and ruined businesses, as well
as the diverse and very localised traditions of England.
Why should a Saxon man be able to import and blonde wife from
Australia and a Jewish or Latino man not be able to do the same from
the Carribean?
A lot of "anti-immigrant" groups loose the distinction between white
and English. They are very different concepts.
Don't blame QE2, it's QE1 largely to blame for this :(
abelard
Andy
can't work and see your other half's life ruined by the Daily Mail /
Express brigade, you write crap like this because it's called anger
with injustice.
If England is big enough for Saxons it's big enough for ethnic
minorities whetever their size. Remember some of these minorities
predate Saxons, who I have nothing against. I'd conside myself both
English and Jewish but, I love Germany! Germans can live here, marry
who they want, even vote, but 1930s German politics we can well do
without.
Eunometic
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:00:45 -0800 (PST), Andy
>
>
> >Equality yes. Justice yes. Freedom yes. Tolerance yes. The right to
> >rape my womenfolk just because your dad did, no!
>
> please define these people you call 'my womenfolk'
Porn models in black booty mags, Andy likes teasing himself to round
and brown.
Andy
to rape a relative...
But for an adult male who have ever been truly intimate with the
opposite sex, porn holds practically no attraction at all.
Sexist men have never made love to a women. Sometimes married with
kids, but not lovers, just a prostitute / rapist relationship.
Neither myself or my partner cheat on each other. Because we have
faith in Love, and have a real marriage.
And our family has a range of skintones, and are still together...
To me family is civilisation, simple as that.
Which is why Darwin said what he did on his deathbed, and I have a lot
of respect for him because of it.
No evolution without creation and vice versa. Not science without God,
and vice versa.
Can't we have God and science? Most who agree with this do not see a
problem with true Islam, Judaism or Christianity!
Curly Surmudgeon
<andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Can't we have God and science?
No.
> Most who agree with this do not see a problem with true Islam, Judaism
> or Christianity!
Agree with what, a question?
--
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Andy
Religion without science = Osama bin Laden
Simple as that. Puritans are just atheists who lie.
abelard
the land has a finite carrying capacity...
that has zero to do with 'ethnicity'....however you may wish to
define that
Andy
and the use and complete legality of alcohol have caused global
overpopulation.
I'm all for non-racist immigration controls. To me that would mean
every potential canditate being legally "adopted" by an existing
citizen, either by birth or fully naturalised via a qualifying period,
just as a provisional license holder needs a supervisor to drive a
car.
The naturalising citizen would be legally responsible for the welfare
and behaviour of the immigrant for a 7 year period, and could face
major prosecution if found to be aiding crime, terrorism or slavery.
After than period immigrants would be full citizens.
This should be international law, or at least EU.
Anglo Saxons don't have the right to dominate or dictate to other
English citizens- demographics don't matter, respect does.
White Spirit
> How come there's all this stuff written about Muslims but not Puritans/
> Calvinists..
Because Puritans and Calvinists don't blow things up, kill people on a
regular basis or take to the streets chanting hateful slogans. Puritans
and Calvinists don't seek to drag the Western world back to the Dark Ages.
HTH.
Adrian
like they were saying:
>> How come there's all this stuff written about Muslims but not Puritans/
>> Calvinists..
> Because Puritans and Calvinists don't ... seek to drag the Western
> world back to the Dark Ages.
Nor does Islam.
FFS, did you completely miss yesterday's opening of the Burj Khalifa?
Some "dark ages".
White Spirit
> As an Englishman, what I can say is that their has been an attempt to
> pervert the royal linage from the English class model to the (white)
> American one - i.e. replace the ruling class with the upper middle
> class, and the working class with the underclass.
Aside from the spelling error, that is correct. A midden heap can yield
something valuable every now and then ;)
White Spirit
> The need to fuck like rabbits because men have to prove their manhood
> and the use and complete legality of alcohol have caused global
> overpopulation.
When it comes to fucking like rabbits, Negroes and certain Asian peoples
have cornered the market.
> Anglo Saxons don't have the right to dominate
We don't have the legal right, but we should.
White Spirit
> abelard wrote:
>> please define these people you call 'my womenfolk'
> Perhaps Andy is more tribal than he thought...
Hahah! Andy and his dope harem.
White Spirit
> White Spirit <wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>> Because Puritans and Calvinists don't ... seek to drag the Western
>> world back to the Dark Ages.
> Nor does Islam.
> FFS, did you completely miss yesterday's opening of the Burj Khalifa?
> Some "dark ages".
I'm talking about Dark Ages in terms of values and society, which Islam
seems to excel at.
Adrian
No, please. Give us some examples of what you mean.
White Spirit
> White Spirit <wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>> I'm talking about Dark Ages in terms of values and society, which Islam
>> seems to excel at.
> No, please. Give us some examples of what you mean.
Read the Koran, if you're not addicted to it all ready.
abelard
<andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>The need to fuck like rabbits because men have to prove their manhood
>and the use and complete legality of alcohol have caused global
>overpopulation.
but not in the uk...
>I'm all for non-racist immigration controls. To me that would mean
>every potential canditate being legally "adopted" by an existing
>citizen, either by birth or fully naturalised via a qualifying period,
>just as a provisional license holder needs a supervisor to drive a
>car.
>
>The naturalising citizen would be legally responsible for the welfare
>and behaviour of the immigrant for a 7 year period, and could face
>major prosecution if found to be aiding crime, terrorism or slavery.
>After than period immigrants would be full citizens.
>
>This should be international law, or at least EU.
ok, so you have issues, but are not yet entirely detached
from the real world...
>Anglo Saxons don't have the right to dominate or dictate to other
>English citizens- demographics don't matter, respect does.
in your land, does the majority have a right to dictate?
abelard
socialism is a christianist puritanical schism....so i'll buy somewhat
into that...
what do they lie about?
islam also apparently has get-out clauses that allow them
to lie in pursuit of the ummah...just as socialists do
abelard
designed and supervised by westerners and koreans at just about every
stage....designed by americans...
even the window washing system is designed by australians!!
the fountain will be the biggerest in the world...so that's american
also
but it will have a mosque in the 158th floor...i don't know who
will design that!
the inaugural song will be in arabic
the project has gone bankrupt so it has been renamed at the last
minute in honour of the khalifa of abu dhabi who's just bailed
out bankrupt dubai....it was to be called burj dubai....it is now
burj khalifa!!
i wonder if they'll change it back if they ever pay off the debt...
or if they get customers to take space in the white heffalump
it is designed to be the world's largest shopping center...eventually
Topaz
Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.
Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.
Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org
http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
Mustapha Allah
bible belt, fundamental Hindu's or Muslims.
Andy
Fundementalist means materialist he who ignores the spirit world.
White Spirit
> Fundementalist means materialist he who ignores the spirit world.
Apparently, Hitler didn't.
FACE
<abel...@abelard.org>, wrote
>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:19:03 -0800 (PST), Andy
><andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>Why don't you seek an exit counsellor...
>
>why are you so angry that you want people dead?
>
>i'm trying to make some coherent sense out of your batch
> of posting...
>fyi that is no easy task
I read it whilst trying to suppress laughter........which is about the
best one can do.
This guy is a real nut case, not the cheap imitation kind............
So, have the calvinists or the puritans bombed a tube station lately?
FACE
FACE
<andrewricha...@googlemail.com>, wrote
You're the devil. You're the conspiracy leader. I knew it would come
out.
You started with Brussels sprouts -- you had them named "Brussels" sprouts
for a reason. We now know that everyone who ate Brussels sprouts in 1812
is dead. Dead! And all so you can slowly and stealthily bring on your
New World Order.
Andy
> So, have the calvinists or the puritans bombed a tube station lately?
>
> FACE
Ex-Leftist
Religion is never dangerous in itself unless it is Left Wing. Example:
Jesus, who operated totally separate of the government, was a nice,
right wing guy. The Spanish Inquisition, on the other hand, was the
utilization of a Fascist State to control opinions not shared by the
State -- In other words, Left Wing politics as usual.
--
Ex-Leftist
I used to be a Leftist, but then I grew up!
Message Origin: FreedomPyramid.com
FACE
<andrewricha...@googlemail.com>, wrote
>
>> So, have the calvinists or the puritans bombed a tube station lately?
>>
>> FACE
>no just the twin towers so they could invade iraq illegally
Thanks for the confirmation that you really are nuts. Want to share what
it was that put you so totally over edge?
Andy
True, he was actually just charlie chaplin dressed up as hitler :)
abelard
wrote:
>On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:27:08 +0100, in alt.politics, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org>, wrote
>
>>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:19:03 -0800 (PST), Andy
>><andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Why don't you seek an exit counsellor...
>>
>>why are you so angry that you want people dead?
>>
>>i'm trying to make some coherent sense out of your batch
>> of posting...
>>fyi that is no easy task
>
>I read it whilst trying to suppress laughter........which is about the
>best one can do.
>
>This guy is a real nut case, not the cheap imitation kind............
what's wrong with nut cases?
>So, have the calvinists or the puritans bombed a tube station lately?
well, if you consider socialism as a puritanical sect....which it is.
regards