Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder--Michael Savage
Sebastian Rector
are also intellectually impaired.
Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
"liberal" disease.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69296
Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, the Una-bomber, John Wayne Gaza,
Charles Manson,
William Sayers, Pastor Jeremiah Wright, etc. were/are all liberal-
fascist anarchists, and Utopians.
They were all very neurotic.
Sal Video
"Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Jerry Kraus
I'll tell you what, bright boy. Why don't we have a nice civil war in
the U.S. between the left, and the right, and see who wins. I'm
ready. Are you?
And, if as I suspect, all you have as ammunition are right-wing talk
show quacks, you may find yourself at something of a disadvantage.
Are we clear?
Chom Noamsky
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GOOGLE SEARCH TERM RESEARCH:
"liberalism is a mental disorder" ... 169,000 hits
"conservatism is a mental disorder" ... 888,000 hits
Jack
> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
> "liberal" disease.
Intellectually impaired, gullible fools like you who exhibit mental
disorders through your daily rants on Usenet should really clam up
when it comes to quoting your heroes and discussing such topics.
Your low I. Q. and subsequent gullibility is showing again. Michael
Wiener has no medical qualifications, only blind partisan bigotry and
ignorance.
Pretending that Wiener is a doctor is like how you (and your
sockpuppets) pretend to be an American.
"Michael Savage, is a radio host, author, windbag, and conservative
political commentator. His nationally-syndicated talk show, The Savage
Nation, airs throughout the United States on Talk Radio Network. He
holds master's degrees in medical botany and medical anthropology and
earned a Ph.D. from the University of California, Berkeley, in
nutritional ethnomedicine. As Michael Weiner, he has written books on
herbal medicine and homeopathy. "
klunk
himself....
this is the same asshole who thinks autism is bratty behaviour and that
corporal punishment is the cure.... this guy is nothing short of being a
complete asshole...
oh... and as far as personality characteristics which reflect political
affiliation, it's been scientifically proven that the conservative mindset
is completely incapable of intellectualizing their own emotional
impairments...
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
"Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about
the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political
conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and
that some of the common psychological factors linked to political
conservatism include:
* Fear and aggression
* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
* Uncertainty avoidance
* Need for cognitive closure
* Terror management"
"Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest
exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a
superior moral justification for selfishness.
- John Kenneth Galbraith
fredrick
"Sal Video" <svi...@access.com> wrote in message
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>It would be great if people understood the differences in the political
>philosophies. This article has a mixed bag of political policies all
>refered to as "liberal".\, when actually none of them are "Liberal". For
>instance Anarchists are the opposite. Utopian , Neurotics etc have
>nothing in common with political beliefs.
Tartarus
> It is true that most liberal/leftists are emotionally disturbed. They
> are also intellectually impaired.
>
> Doctor Michael Savage,
... lover of Allen Ginsburg...
Oh, sorry for the interruption. You were saying?
Tartarus
Blackwater
wrote:
>http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
>
>"Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about
>the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political
>conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and
>that some of the common psychological factors linked to political
>conservatism include:
>
> * Fear and aggression
> * Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
> * Uncertainty avoidance
> * Need for cognitive closure
> * Terror management"
The sane mans selection. :-)
Beats confused, undecided, namby-pamby, wishy-washy
sedated 'liberalism'.
Neolibertarian
<05be2d6a-f40f-4ff3...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Sebastian Rector <cice...@rogers.com> wrote:
> It is true that most liberal/leftists are emotionally disturbed. They
> are also intellectually impaired.
>
> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
> "liberal" disease.
His name's Michael Weiner.
He's not a doctor.
He has his own mental disorders to deal with.
--
NeoLibertarian
Chom Noamsky
"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
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Lol! And what exactly is conservatism... why it's the worship of liberal
thinking 200 years after the fact.
bval...@aol.com
> ROTFLMAO.... michael savage can easily be thought of as a disease
> himself....
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=M2Y5ZjE1MWEwYWUyOTUzNTI4ZmY3YzgwMWQ5ZDA4YTU=
Savaged
A radio-talk-show host pulls a fast one on fans?
By David Klinghoffer
Consider the case of Michael Savage, right-wing radio guy, and the not
trivial effect he could have on the upcoming election. What’s curious
about him is the tantalizing possibility — now with a smoking gun —
that his three-hour daily show is an act, a put-on.
According to Talkers magazine, he’s the country’s third-most-listened-
to radio talk host, with 8.25 million listeners who frequently call in
to hail him as a great patriot. As Publishers Weekly records, his
first book, The Savage Nation (2003), sold 400,000 copies while its
rabidly titled successors (The Enemy Within, Liberalism Is a Mental
Disorder, and The Political Zoo) have all debuted on the New York
Times bestseller list. His shtick is that he’s an “independent
conservative.” The San Francisco-based commentator with the honking
Bronx accent reviles President Bush, supposedly from conservative
principles, in characteristic way-over-the-top fashion.
The other day he was blasting the administration’s conduct of the Iraq
war: “We need Patton, but instead we’ve got patent leather shoes from
Yale.” Savage mused that “some [conservatives] are saying it would be
healthy for the Republicans to lose” the election. “I’m not sure I
agree with that,” he allowed, but permitted his listeners to draw
their own conclusions and vote (or not vote) accordingly.
Admittedly, for Savage this is mild stuff. More typical are his
comments, always straining to shock, on Jimmy Carter (“like Hitler”),
Democrats who supported Michael Schiavo (“like Mengele”), Bill
Clinton’s memoir My Life (should have been called “Mein Kampf”), Wolf
Blitzer (“would have pushed Jewish children into the oven to stay
alive one more day to entertain the Nazis”), and so on.
Of his own political identity, Savage says, “I’m a Goldwater
conservative…. If [another] Goldwater appeared, I’d work for him, I’d
give money to him.”
Interesting that he should mention money — which brings us to the
smoking gun. Supporting a candidate out of your own wallet may be the
most accurate gauge of what a donor believes in his heart. So it
should come as a shock to fans to learn where their hero distributes
his own political gifts. Which are not ungenerous. Just ask Jerry
Brown, the decidedly liberal candidate (pro-abortion, pro-gun control,
etc.) for California attorney general.
As the San Francisco Chronicle reports, Savage is a top contributor to
Brown’s campaign against conservative state senator Chuck Poochigian.
His gift of $5,600, the maximum allowable under state law, was
merited, Savage told the Chronicle after being outed. Why? Because
“You have to make choices in an imperfect world.”
Undoubtedly so, but that’s hardly the red-faced extremist talking that
Savage plays on the radio. So what explains the generosity?
There is much about him that would suggest, not an ideologue at all,
but simply a performer. Then again, sometimes you get the feeling that
a refugee from Air America (the failed experiment in liberal talk
radio) has been writing scripts for him based on a lefty’s cartoon
mental picture of a ranting right-wing caveman.
A performer doesn’t have to care about the consistency or credibility
of his message. When Savage is not hinting that it might be a positive
development to see Republicans booted out of Congress, he’s preaching
in a ridiculously apocalyptic vein about the perils of Democratic
rule: “My fear is that if the Democrats win, and I’m afraid that they
might, you’re going to see America melt down faster that you could
ever imagine. It will happen overnight, and it could lead to the
breakup of the United States of America, the way the Soviet Union
broke up.”
But what liberal’s imagining of a conservative demagogue would be
complete without the invocation of a pipeline direct to Heaven? So
Savages supplies it. Over the summer, in a parody of religious faith,
he described his working relationship with the Almighty: “I’m a
vehicle for God. Don’t you understand that? I’m not saying that I’m a
prophet. Not at all. I’m simply a vehicle for God, I’m speaking to you
the way he would speak to you if He could come down and speak to you.
And he would say to you the very same things that I am saying to you.
Because not only is God a conservative, God is a very, very far right
conservative.”
This is the same Michael Savage — actually his legal name is Michael
Alan Weiner — of whom his old Beat poet Sixties pal Lawrence
Ferlinghetti recalled that back in the day he was “always looking to
make a fast buck,” “always trying to think up new schemes to get
famous.” In his colorful Sixties period, Weiner studied herbal
remedies and hung around with Allen Ginsberg.
Today, in a worst-case scenario he could be Lonesome Rhodes in the
1957 Elia Kazan film A Face in the Crowd, a pathologically insincere
TV host who plays up his good-ol’-boy cracker-barrel persona but is
caught off guard at the end of a broadcast, his voice carried live,
revealing what he really feels about his adoring fans: “You know what
the public’s like, a cage full of guinea pigs. Good night, you stupid
idiots. Good night, you miserable slobs.”
I doubt Savage is that insincere. Maybe he is even for real.
Certainly, people are complicated, and you can’t look into anyone’s
heart. Too bad, though, that his fans hardly seem to wonder, as if
they were reading The Onion, thinking it was a genuine news source. If
he is a liberal provocateur pretending to be a conservative, or more
likely just a performer, he is, either way, a lamentably popular one.
— David Klinghoffer, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, is
the author most recently of Why the Jews Rejected Jesus: The Turning
Point in Western History (Doubleday).
klunk
> wrote:
>
>>http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
>>
>>"Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about
>>the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political
>>conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality,
>>and
>>that some of the common psychological factors linked to political
>>conservatism include:
>>
>> * Fear and aggression
>> * Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
>> * Uncertainty avoidance
>> * Need for cognitive closure
>> * Terror management"
>
>
> The sane mans selection. :-)
no actually... the unthinking fool's selection... but, judging by your
post... you wouldn't know any better... ;-)
> Beats confused, undecided, namby-pamby, wishy-washy
> sedated 'liberalism'.
ROTFLMAO.... you only believe that because you apparently revel in your
unthinking, animalistic heritage...
mordacp...@hotmail.com
McVeigh was a rightwinger, you stupid asshole.
Weiner lost his biggest sponser because of his inhumane comments about
autistic children.
Blackwater
Can be ... indeed SHOULD be. But that's a relatively small
percentage of 'conservatives' nowdays.
IMHO, American 'conservatism' is about "conserving what
is best". That includes all those then-novel libertarian
ideas from the Founders ... everything that makes this a
'Land of the Free'. Trying to squash those ideals, or
taking the least-generous interpretation of them, isn't
"conserving what is best".
Too many 'conservatives' nowadays are actually hardcore
theocrats and theofascists, militarists, imperialists,
authoritarians or just plain totalitarians. This ain't
what America was meant to be about ... may as well go
back to the gawd-emperors and warlords.
And the 'neo-cons' ... unclassifiable ; definitely not
"conservatives".
When it comes to the whole "life, liberty and the persuit
of happiness" thing, a proper conservative oughtta seem
to out-liberal a modern faux-"liberal". You know ... REAL
liberalism, not the whitewashed communitarian/totalitarian
BS that's sold as "liberalism" on TV.
Sunny Beasty
> > Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, the Una-bomber, John Wayne Gaza,
> > Charles Manson,
> > William Sayers, Pastor Jeremiah Wright, etc. were/are all liberal-
> > fascist anarchists, and Utopians.
> > They were all very neurotic.
>
> McVeigh was a rightwinger, you stupid asshole.
>
Very true. A rightwinger who complained of an over-reaching federal
government, supported states rights, worshipped the Second Amendment
and dabbled in the survivalist/militia culture - doesn't sound like
too many liberals I know. As for Manson he was a virulent white racist
whose goal was to ignite a black-white race war. Again doesn't sound
too liberal. But then again, take everything Lambourn says with a
grain of salt. I'm more and more convinced he is a left winger
undermining the right by pretending to be one of them.
FACE
> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
> "liberal" disease.
>
>
socialist Jews put in place by the leftist elite in order to discredit us
rightists with their bizarre antics and incoherent rightist ravings. Weiner'
s friendship and hero worship of socialist, openly gay leftist Allen Ginsberg
is well documented. Anyone who supports or quotes Weiner is a leftist Hitler
worshiping fascist.
It doesn't look good for you. Why don't you seek a cure for your mental
illness?
Are you too poor to afford it?
klunk
i find it rather amusing how conservatives can easily seggregate themselves
into factions in order to cast blame on some other conservative wing for the
problems caused by myopic conservativism... and how laughable the obverse
attempts to lump all liberalism into something you've learned to disdain
from second world war cartoons....
conservativism today is a regressive and socially destructive disease... and
REAL liberalism is what brought you those things you claim are best
conserved in the first place....
Igor
So is Mr Weiner.
Blackwater
wrote:
So then, you'll claim kinship with Shining Path & FARC ?
Celebrate the creation of the Symbionese Liberation Army
and Red Brigades every year ?
Hmmm ?
>and how laughable the obverse
>attempts to lump all liberalism into something you've learned to disdain
>from second world war cartoons....
The commies were our allies in WW-2.
Maybe you're thinking Boris & Natasha ?
>conservativism today is a regressive and socially destructive disease... and
>REAL liberalism is what brought you those things you claim are best
>conserved in the first place....
Hasn't been much REAL liberalism - ESPECIALLY from "liberals" -
in a LONG time buddy ....
klunk
i also find it rather interesting just how pathetic a conservative can be
when it comes to interpreting english... it's almost like they've been
hardwired to both misunderstand what they've read and that they have no
choice but to react like an involuntary muscle and spew non-related
stupidity in order to feel less insecure about themselve....
>>and how laughable the obverse
>>attempts to lump all liberalism into something you've learned to disdain
>>from second world war cartoons....
>
> The commies were our allies in WW-2.
>
> Maybe you're thinking Boris & Natasha ?
nope... i'm thinking of mindless idiots like you who quake over the idea
that reality requires some mental effort to elevate one's interpretations of
it beyond your anus...
>>conservativism today is a regressive and socially destructive disease...
>>and
>>REAL liberalism is what brought you those things you claim are best
>>conserved in the first place....
>
> Hasn't been much REAL liberalism - ESPECIALLY from "liberals" -
> in a LONG time buddy ....
you haven't a fucking clue what "real" liberalism is idiot... and you
probably never will...
Blackwater
wrote:
Oh, I interpreted it JUST RIGHT. Someone who says that all
'conservatives' are the same ought not be bitchin' when I
counter by saying all 'liberals' are the same. Very funny !
klunk
i also find it rather amusing that idiots always go to great lengths to
twist words in order to manipulate meaning in their favour and mitigate
their embarrassment over their own gaffes...
Rich Hutnik
> are also intellectually impaired.
>
> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
> "liberal" disease.
>
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69296
And he says that 99% of all diagnosed cases of autism are fake. You
trust his judgment? Savage should stick to nutritional supplements and
keep quiet about other areas that aren't in his area of expertise. As
much as he may know about other things, 5 minutes of him being
bombastic wreck any other good intentions he has. He was named as one
of the 50 people screwing up America in a book that consisted almost
entirely of liberals.
- Rich
Jerry Kraus
My God! I didn't know it was possible for neocons to find a neocon
who was too much of a neocon!
Is this a first?
Trace
> It is true that most liberal/leftists are emotionally disturbed. They
> are also intellectually impaired.
>
> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
> "liberal" disease.
>
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69296
>
> Charles Manson,
> William Sayers, Pastor Jeremiah Wright, etc. were/are all liberal-
> fascist anarchists, and Utopians.
> They were all very neurotic.
INDEED THEY ARE.
IS HILLARY REALLY A MAN?
IS REED REALLY A WOMAN?
PROBABLY.
Blackwater
>Blackwater <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
>> Oh, I interpreted it JUST RIGHT. Someone who says that all
>> 'conservatives' are the same ought not be bitchin' when I
>> counter by saying all 'liberals' are the same. Very funny !
>>
>The loony right, especially in the USA, has surfaced recently and has made
>the 9/11 conspiracy loving extremist left look like sane and thoughtful
>individuals with their wacky, anti-science global warming conspiracies,
>promotion of 'Intelligent Design' and raving, imbecilic nonsense based on
>their fear of Obama.
If you had any sense, you too would fear Obama. Rad left is
every bit as dangerous as rad right.
Blackwater
Let me draw attention to :
"i find it rather amusing how conservatives can easily seggregate
themselves into factions in order to cast blame on some other
conservative wing for the problems caused by myopic
conservativism..."
Howz about I rephrase that ever so slightly to :
"I find it rather amusing how 'lefties' can easily seggregate
themselves into factions in order to cast blame on some other
leftie wing for the problems caused by myopic
'liberalism'..."
Game. Set. Match.
bval...@aol.com
> Blackwater <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> > Oh, I interpreted it JUST RIGHT. Someone who says that all
> > 'conservatives' are the same ought not be bitchin' when I
> > counter by saying all 'liberals' are the same. Very funny !
>
> the 9/11 conspiracy loving extremist left look like sane and thoughtful
> individuals with their wacky, anti-science global warming conspiracies,>
And by "wacky, anti-science global warming conspiracies", of course
you the evil of open debate, and allowing the other side to be heard.
.
> promotion of 'Intelligent Design'
.
Which consists of allowing the other side to be heard.
.
>and raving, imbecilic nonsense based on their fear of Obama.
By which you mean any criticism of Obama whatsoever.
Eat the rich
> It is true that most liberal/leftists are emotionally disturbed. They
> are also intellectually impaired.
>
> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
> "liberal" disease.
>
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69296
>
> Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, the Una-bomber, John Wayne Gaza,
> Charles Manson,
> William Sayers, Pastor Jeremiah Wright, etc. were/are all liberal-
> fascist anarchists, and Utopians.
> They were all very neurotic.
And do you believe everything a conservative pundit tells you? Have
you lost the ability--if you ever had it--to think for yourself?
klunk
i'm also highly entertained by the idiotic antics of insecure imbeciles....
ROTFLMAO... i'm always fascinated at the lengths to which such fools go to
pretend like their stupidity has any bearing or relevance to any world
outside their anus... what is especially entertaining are their pathetic
attempts at appropriating ideas they've never understood but because they're
intimidated by them, they figure they can just repeat them like mindless
robots and somehow.... they expect credibility.... bwahahahahahaha .... you
are one truly pathetic fuck.... ;-)
klunk
ROTFLMAO.... apparently, you're too stupid to fear mcsame... i bet you're
one of those remaining deluded 28% that somehow has managed to hang onto
that hallucination of bushco actually being something other than the
greatest disaster to ever befall the office of president of the u.s.....
klunk
<bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 24, 2:38 pm, Gaffney <gaffne...@excite.com> wrote:
> Blackwater <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> > Oh, I interpreted it JUST RIGHT. Someone who says that all
> > 'conservatives' are the same ought not be bitchin' when I
> > counter by saying all 'liberals' are the same. Very funny !
>
> The loony right, especially in the USA, has surfaced recently and has made
> the 9/11 conspiracy loving extremist left look like sane and thoughtful
> individuals with their wacky, anti-science global warming conspiracies,>
.
And by "wacky, anti-science global warming conspiracies", of course
you the evil of open debate, and allowing the other side to be heard.
.
> promotion of 'Intelligent Design'
.
Which consists of allowing the other side to be heard.
---
i.d. is not science... and it deserves no less than to be dismissed and
mocked for the farce it is... if you want to talk about id, then talk about
it in the context of mythology... not science.. it has no place in any
dialogue on science....
Jerry Glans
> Game. Set. Match.
>
>
Weiner always wins, that's because he's smart and everybody agrees with him
100%, even Emminent Prophet Limbaugh, the great historian Jonah Goldberg and
the spokewoman for all sane Republicans, Ann Coulter!
Herb
> And by "wacky, anti-science global warming conspiracies", of course
> you the evil of open debate, and allowing the other side to be heard.
>
Global warming is a farce.
klunk
"Herb" <herb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22f325365...@news.individual.net...
ROTFLMAO.... was there supposed to be intelligence behind that
question..?...
>
> Global warming is a farce.
>
lol... apparently not.... ;-)
Blackwater
wrote:
>Actually, I didn't like Senator Kerry at all, and I always thought that Bush
>was creepy.
A fair evaluation of both.
"W"s the "front guy" anyway, in the finest Machiavellian
tradition ... a spoiled frat-boy with a public-speaking
impediment way out of his depth. It's REALLY the Cheney/Rove
administration and everyone knows it.
"W"s funtion is to be kinda like a sad-eyed tail-wagging puppy
that's pooped on the carpet ... someone who has to take the
blame, but you just can't stay THAT mad at the poor widdle pup.
>Americans are pre-disposed to hate what the ignorant determine as
>"socialism".
Good. As defensive prejudices go, that one's worthwhile overall
even if it's sometimes misdirected. Socialists/communitarians and
micromanagers - those elitists and pseudointellectuals who crave
control and imagine they are more worthy of having it than any
of the proles - they are forever chipping away at the roots of
the Liberty Tree with their little hatchets. Freedom, options,
individual latitude ... human nature and systemic forces are
always biased against them and it requires constant energy and
diligence to even hold on to what you've got.
>Americans and their values are so far up their respective assholes and so
>full of propaganda, that they know shit.
Speaking of pseudointellectual elitism ........
Americans aren't stupid - at least no more than any other
population - nor are they as ignorant as many populations.
The problem is inattentiveness to the people and issues
which shape their daily existence. Why are they inattentive ?
Perversely, because we've had it so GOOD. Somewhere around
the end of WW-2, times were great and people got LAZY. The
mantra became "Let the GOVERNMENT deal with it !" with the
presumption that they were OK, trustworthy guys.
By the time it became clear they WEREN'T OK trustworthy
guys ... it was too late. Things had moved on, govt had
become insanely large and convoluted - a Gordian knot -
a million backroom deals had been made, thousands of
little nicks in the Liberty Tree had been cut ... and
it was just impossible to really DO anything about it.
External and internal threats, real and perceived, made it
seem unwise to just pull the *EJECT* handle and jetison the
whole corrupt mess into space so we could start afresh - so
we've been STUCK with this increasingly bloated and decaying
corpse of a government.
The lords of decay and corruption - they KNOW this, COUNT
on it, BANK on it, RULE with it.
>They actually believe that Carter devastated the military while Reagan won
>the cold war by "fiscal conservative" spending the country into debt.
Which would be TRUE - to a point. Overall though, a misperception.
They never got into the convoluted details. Let the GOVERNMENT deal
with THAT stuff ....
>They believe that Obama is all about "big government", when Bush raised the
>federal payroll by 25% over that of the Clinton administration in less than 3
>years.
BOTH are about "big government" ... and 'neo-cons' AIN'T
'conservatives'. They may talk the talk, but they don't
walk the walk.
>Myths are like Limbaugh. Entertaining.
Limbaugh is 'info-tainment' after all :-)
Falstaff
If science is false what is real?
Blackwater
<jaxfa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"All is illusion."
-- the Buddha
"To them, I said, the truth would be literally nothing
but the shadows of the images."
-- Socrates, via Plato
"There is no spoon"
-- Rowan Witt (Matrix)
OK, OK ... 'science' isn't false - it's a METHODOLOGY
for finding and confirming facts about the natural world.
Perfectly sound. However, it is always a work IN PROGRESS,
and todays 'truths' may be modified or supplanted by
tomorrows as more information comes in, as better analysis
of information is obtained.
Science thus, at best, yeilds small-'t' truths of rigidly
defined scope to which one can ascribe a high/medium/low-
confidence level of accuracy. It can turn 'dumb luck' and
'blind faith' into 'educated guesses' that can and are
used for all manner of useful things.
Newtons physics did rate a 'high' - VERY high - confidence
level for a long time. Alas, on very close examination of
certain phenomena, it proved to be not QUITE right. It
remains useful however, even though it's wrong, because
the errors only become significant in certain extreme
situations. Still, really, it IS wrong in all but one
VERY narrow selection of circumstances.
At present, science gives us high confidence that
'ID', as sold, is total garbage. Indeed it logically
collapses at its initial assertion - that complex/
intelligent life cannot come into existence without
the assistance of an intelligent designer. So what
designer designed that designer ... and so forth and
so on ? An infinite regression ... paradox ... turtles
all the way down, so to speak. Hopeless. Useless. Junk.
The OTHER kind of 'ID' - be it little grey alien dudes
seeding/tinkering with life and/or ecosystems on a
strange planet or our genetic engineers designing new
specialty organisms - THAT kind of 'ID' clearly CAN
exist. Whether it has happened in this planets past,
science, as yet, has no answers, no evidence one way
or another. It may not be possible to get evidence
at all.
Blackwater
wrote:
Oh just admit I beat you fair and square on this particular
point of left-wing prejudice and get on to something else
whydontcha ...
klunk
ROTFLMAO.... after reading that deranged butchering of what you consider
science to be in that other idiotic post of yours, i'm not surprised you're
completely oblivious to the fact that you've only succeeded in demonstrating
yourself to be a fool without a clue... apparently, the only thing you know
how to beat is your head against the wall... you haven't even come close to
understanding the argument... let alone concocting some foolish notion of
righteousness... again... how very fucking pathetic....
klunk
hay-hay-good-bye freak... don't let the door hit your ass on the way out....
"klunk" <kl...@theothershoo.org> wrote in message
news:N9Khk.24600$nD.3299@pd7urf1no...
> ROTFLMAO.... michael savage can easily be thought of as a disease
> himself....
>
> http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/22/michael-wiener-savage-on-autism-remarks-im-just-defending-of-the-defenseless/
>
> this is the same asshole who thinks autism is bratty behaviour and that
> corporal punishment is the cure.... this guy is nothing short of being a
> complete asshole...
>
> oh... and as far as personality characteristics which reflect political
> affiliation, it's been scientifically proven that the conservative mindset
> is completely incapable of intellectualizing their own emotional
> impairments...
>
> http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
>
> "Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about
> the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political
> conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality,
> and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political
> conservatism include:
>
> * Fear and aggression
> * Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
> * Uncertainty avoidance
> * Need for cognitive closure
> * Terror management"
>
>
> "Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:05be2d6a-f40f-4ff3...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> It is true that most liberal/leftists are emotionally disturbed. They
>> are also intellectually impaired.
>>
>> Doctor Michael Savage, a talk-show host, has written a book about the
>> "liberal" disease.
>>
>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69296
>>
>> Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, the Una-bomber, John Wayne Gaza,
>> Charles Manson,
>> William Sayers, Pastor Jeremiah Wright, etc. were/are all liberal-
>> fascist anarchists, and Utopians.
>> They were all very neurotic.
>
>
> The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest
> exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a
> superior moral justification for selfishness.
> - John Kenneth Galbraith
>
>
>
>
Rich Hutnik
I was surprised to find Savage in the book actually. But then again,
the Fox News crowd does have a range to them actually. You will see
occasionally some breaks here and there.
- Rich
McGoof is Done!
>
> hay-hay-good-bye freak... don't let the door hit your ass on the way
> out....
>
> http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1216974668106870.xml&coll=2
Michael Weiner should be beheaded in public along with 90% of the Bush
administration and all the oil CEOs.
Jorge W. Arbusto, Prezidentchul Candydate
> <Nic...@Click.com> wrote:
>> IS TRACELOON REALLY STUPID FOR TYPING IN CAPS?
>>
>> INDEED HE IS.
>>
> Trace says that Bush is infallible and that we are all the result of
> the Intelligent Designers.
The Designer was having a bad day when he created Travidiot.
klunk
> Americans aren't stupid - at least no more than any other
> population - nor are they as ignorant as many populations.
they voted bush in TWICE... that alone makes a startling number of americans
quite stupid... but that's not where it ends... the fact that their
educational system has been churning out under-educated graduates from
substandard curricula for the last decade has also contributed toward their
overall stupidity....
Blackwater
<ki...@all.republicans> wrote:
>Each and every republican on the face of the planet should be forced to
>watch their spouses and children being tortured to death.
>
>Then they should be soused in a 50-50 mixture of tar and gasoline and
>BURNED TO DEATH.
My ... what a fine compassionate 'liberal' you are ! :-)
I think you just lost your right to bitch about anything
that happens at Gitmo.
klunk
"Oswald" <oswald.p...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22f577c7d...@news.individual.net...
> who calls kids like my friends "a fake" because of of his autism.
>
> Get with it. We all know that "Murder All Republicans" is an asshole and
> has
> nothing to do with how honest, law abiding and tax paying people like us
> feel.
>
>
> Don't dare to use him as an example of a Liberal. No more than I will use
> Michael (Savage) Weiner as one against you.
exactly.... one doesn't have to be affiliated with any particular political
idiotology to find much to despise with the rethugs... although, i will
admit murder sounds as insane as a rethug, i just chose to chalk it up to
someone who's kid was killed in iraq because of chimpy's hypocritical
idiocies... which quite frankly, IS a situation in which i can understand
and empathize with such extreme disdain...
Blackwater
wrote:
>
>"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
>news:488a19d8...@news.east.earthlink.net...
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:34:48 -0400, Kenny <kenny...@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> Americans aren't stupid - at least no more than any other
>> population - nor are they as ignorant as many populations.
>
>
>they voted bush in TWICE...
Wisely choosing the lesser of evils, twice. :-)
klunk
incompetently pretending you didn't make a mistake, twice... ;-)
Blackwater
wrote:
>
>"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
>news:488ce07b...@news.east.earthlink.net...
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:35:31 GMT, "klunk" <kl...@theothershoo.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
>>>news:488a19d8...@news.east.earthlink.net...
>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:34:48 -0400, Kenny <kenny...@rogers.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Americans aren't stupid - at least no more than any other
>>>> population - nor are they as ignorant as many populations.
>>>
>>>
>>>they voted bush in TWICE...
>>
>>
>> Wisely choosing the lesser of evils, twice. :-)
>
>incompetently pretending you didn't make a mistake, twice... ;-)
I said a "LESSER of evils" ... not that there
WEREN'T any evils.
klunk
which makes your assessment, "incompetent"...
Blackwater
wrote:
>
>"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
>news:488db442...@news.east.earthlink.net...
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:28:56 GMT, "klunk" <kl...@theothershoo.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
>>>news:488ce07b...@news.east.earthlink.net...
>>>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:35:31 GMT, "klunk" <kl...@theothershoo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Blackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:488a19d8...@news.east.earthlink.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:34:48 -0400, Kenny <kenny...@rogers.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Americans aren't stupid - at least no more than any other
>>>>>> population - nor are they as ignorant as many populations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>they voted bush in TWICE...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wisely choosing the lesser of evils, twice. :-)
>>>
>>>incompetently pretending you didn't make a mistake, twice... ;-)
>>
>>
>> I said a "LESSER of evils" ... not that there
>> WEREN'T any evils.
>
>which makes your assessment, "incompetent"...
Think you're hangin' with saints, now do you ? :-)
In politics, it's ALWAYS the lesser of evils.
klunk
lol.... not here on usenet.... and particularly not with a usenut like
yourself... ;-)
> In politics, it's ALWAYS the lesser of evils.
lol... apparently, you've chosen to continue to prove my charge of
incompetence with yet more incompetence....
Blackwater
wrote:
You seem to occupy a hermetically-sealed little
universe. If you ever decide to come out ...
klunk
ROTFLMAO... it only looks that way to someone who's head been trapped inside
their anus long enough to cut off oxygen to the brain... but... thanks for
proving your incompetence once more... ;-)
Blackwater
wrote:
You're getting very circular now ... as I said, a
hermetically-sealed little universe - a SMALL one.
Doesn't take you long to come right back to where
you started :-)
klunk
lol... since you've not once contributed anything of substance, it's rather
humorous to me how you can make such a claim when you've never budged from
your own starting point... but, like all typical nutbars, you do demonstrate
a penchant for attributing your own behaviours to others.... s'okay though,
i know that's just an instinctive self-defensive reaction by idiots whom are
incapable of facing their own incompetence... ;-)
KR
> http://www.urantiansojourn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/savagemccain1.jpg
How short is lover boi?
ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! !
ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! !
ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! ! ROFLMAO ! !
On Jul 23, 8:55 am, Sebastian Rector <cicer...@rogers.com> wrote:
> It is true that most liberal/leftists are emotionally disturbed. They
> are also intellectually impaired.
>