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AndJustice4All

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Sep 8, 2005, 2:08:57 PM9/8/05
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http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
The RED CROSS says it was blocked by the Louisiana state government

Governor Katheen Blanco stopped the Red Cross from bringing
food and water to Superdome
http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524


It appears that the Mayor of New Orleans Mayor Ray Naginmanic
should have been directed at his own governor Blanco!

The Red Cross is confirming to Major Garrett of Fox News that
it had prepositioned water, food, blankets and hygiene products
for delivery to the Superdome and the Convention Center in the
immediate aftermath of the hurricane,

but were blocked from delivering those supplies by orders of the
Louisiana state government, which did not want to attract people
to the Superdome and/or Convention Center.

Garrett has no paper trail yet, but will follow up on his verbal
confirmation from sources at the highest levels of the Red Cross.
Hugh Hewitt interviewed Garrett after he broke the story.

Transcript here
http://www.radioblogger.com/#000967
http://www.radioblogger.com/

The Red Cross backs up Garrett's story on their website here
http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524

"...The 'STATE' (of Louisiana) Homeland Security
Department had requested--and continues to request--
that the American Red Cross NOT come back into New
Orleans following the hurricane.

Our presence would keep people from evacuating and
encourage others to come into the city..."

- Source: THE RED CROSS
http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524

from:
http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2005/09/blanco-prevented-red-cross-from.html
http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/

Sid See

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Sep 8, 2005, 2:49:51 PM9/8/05
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AndJustice4All <And--Just...@this-honorable-court.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
> The RED CROSS says it was blocked by the Louisiana state government
>
> Governor Katheen Blanco stopped the Red Cross from bringing
> food and water to Superdome
> http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
>

"The state Homeland Security Department


had requested--and continues to request--

that the American Red Cross not come


back into New Orleans following the
hurricane. Our presence would keep people
from evacuating and encourage others to
come into the city."

Homeland Security is a federal agency--
it's not under the control of LA Governor
Blanco at any level-- State or otherwise.

Funny how those who are refusing to
accept any responsibility are the ones now
yelling their opposition to the "blame game",
while playing it to the hilt themselves --
hypocrites, every damned one of them!

Sid
_________________________________
"Faith is a belief without evidence in what is
told by one who speaks without knowledge
of things without parallel."
-Ambrose Bierce

Don

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Sep 8, 2005, 4:47:06 PM9/8/05
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In article <ZN%Te.8445$sx2.3031@fed1read02>, sid...@faux.not says...

>
>
>AndJustice4All <And--Just...@this-honorable-court.org> wrote in message
>news:0gv0i191magumtt77...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
>> The RED CROSS says it was blocked by the Louisiana state government
>>
>> Governor Katheen Blanco stopped the Red Cross from bringing
>> food and water to Superdome
>> http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
>>
>
>"The state Homeland Security Department
>had requested--and continues to request--
>that the American Red Cross not come
>back into New Orleans following the
>hurricane. Our presence would keep people
>from evacuating and encourage others to
>come into the city."
>
>Homeland Security is a federal agency--
>it's not under the control of LA Governor
>Blanco at any level-- State or otherwise.
>
>Funny how those who are refusing to
>accept any responsibility are the ones now
>yelling their opposition to the "blame game",
>while playing it to the hilt themselves --
>hypocrites, every damned one of them!
>
>Sid

--------------------

FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e2511c8.html
FEMA turns away experienced firefighters
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048
FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html
FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html
FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm
FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15147862&BRD=1817&PAG=461&dept_id=68
56
1
&rfi=6
FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/171718/0826
FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509040369sep04,1,4144825.s
to
ry?ctrack=1&cset=true
FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050902daley,1,2011979.story?coll=
ch
i-news-h
ed
FEMA turns away generators
http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html
FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond"
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18470

--------------------

WAIVER OF ADMINISTRATIVE CONDITIONS

Sec. 301. Any Federal agency charged with the administration of a
Federal assistance program may, if so requested by the applicant State
or local authorities, modify or waive, for a major disaster, such
administrative conditions for assistance as would otherwise prevent
the giving of assistance under such programs if the inability to meet
such conditions is a result of a major disaster.

http://www.ohioema.org/robertt.htm


Sec. 403. (a) In General. Federal agencies may on the direction of the
President, provide assistance essential to meeting immediate threats
to life and property resulting from a major disaster, as follows:

(I) reduction of immediate threats to life, property, and public
health and safety.

Another clause which grants the President the authority to act... no
consent whatsoever needed.

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President is authorized to utilize any transportation resources for
evacuation:

EMERGENCY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

Sec. 419. The President is authorized to provide temporary public
transportation service in an area affected by a major disaster to meet
emergency needs and to provide transportation to governmental offices,
supply centers, stores, post offices, schools, major employment
centers, and such other places as may be necessary in order to enable
the community to resume its normal pattern of life as soon as
possible.

--------------------

ONCE A STATE OF EMERGENCY IS DECLARED:

In any emergency, the President may -

(1) direct any Federal agency, with or without reimbursement, to
utilize its authorities and the resources granted to it under Federal
law (including personnel, equipment, supplies, facilities, and
managerial, technical and advisory services) in support of State and
local emergency assistance efforts to save lives, protect property and
public health and safety, and lessen or avert the threat of a
catastrophe;

(2) coordinate all disaster relief assistance (including voluntary
assistance) provided by Federal agencies, private organizations, and
State and local governments;

--------------------

Friday, August 26
GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: [Office
of the Governor]

GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1
press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force
Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting
additional forces on Friday, 8/26. [DOD]

Saturday, August 27
5AM — KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE [CNN]

GOV. BLANCO ASKS BUSH TO DECLARE FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN
LOUISIANA: “I have determined that this incident is of such severity
and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of
the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary
Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property,
public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a
disaster.” [Office of the Governor]

FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO
RESPOND TO KATRINA: “Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify,
mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources
necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.” [White House]

http://www.thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline

--------------------

The FEDS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR KATRINA RELIEF..

"Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide
at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the
impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and emergency protective
measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75
percent Federal funding. "

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html


m pautz

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Sep 8, 2005, 8:18:41 PM9/8/05
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Sid See wrote:

> AndJustice4All <And--Just...@this-honorable-court.org> wrote in message
> news:0gv0i191magumtt77...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>> http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
>>The RED CROSS says it was blocked by the Louisiana state government
>>
>>Governor Katheen Blanco stopped the Red Cross from bringing
>>food and water to Superdome
>>http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
>>
>
>
> "The state Homeland Security Department
> had requested--and continues to request--
> that the American Red Cross not come
> back into New Orleans following the
> hurricane. Our presence would keep people
> from evacuating and encourage others to
> come into the city."
>
> Homeland Security is a federal agency--
> it's not under the control of LA Governor
> Blanco at any level-- State or otherwise.
>

Notice the word "State" Homeland Security.

There is a Louisiana Homeland Security (http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/
). It will be interesting to see who is really at fault here. If it is
FEMA, then remember this the next time some congressman suggests
National Health Care.

Independent_Voter

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Sep 8, 2005, 5:52:39 PM9/8/05
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There is a Louisiana Homeland Security (http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/

). It will be interesting to see who is really at fault here. If it is

FEMA, then remember this the next time some congressman suggests
National Health Care.

Good point I must admit being the indendent that I am

Lamont Cranston

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Sep 8, 2005, 6:12:07 PM9/8/05
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m pautz wrote:

There is no "state Homeland Security Department."

www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm


Homeland Security won't let Red Cross deliver food

Saturday, September 03, 2005
By Ann Rodgers, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

As the National Guard delivered food to the New Orleans convention
center yesterday, American Red Cross officials said that federal
emergency management authorities would not allow them to do the same.

Other relief agencies say the area is so damaged and dangerous that they
doubted they could conduct mass feeding there now.

"The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request
that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans," said Renita
Hosler, spokeswoman for the Red Cross.

"Right now access is controlled by the National Guard and local
authorities. We have been at the table every single day [asking for
access]. We cannot get into New Orleans against their orders."

Calls to the Department of Homeland Security and its subagency, the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, were not returned yesterday.

Though frustrated, Hosler understood the reasons. The goal is to move
people out of an uninhabitable city, and relief operations might keep
them there. Security is so bad that she fears feeding stations might get
ransacked.

"It's not about fault and blame right now. The situation is like an
hourglass, and we are in the smallest part right now. Everything is
trying to get through it," she said. "They're trying to help people get
out."

Obstacles in downtown New Orleans have stymied rescuers who got there.
The Salvation Army has two of its officers trapped with more than 200
people -- three requiring dialysis -- in its own downtown building. They
were alerted by a 30-second plea for food and water before the phone
went dead.

On Wednesday, The Salvation Army rented three boats for a rescue
operation. They knew the situation was desperate, and that their own
people were inside, said Maj. Donna Hood, associate director of
development for the Army.

"The boats couldn't get through," she said. Although she doesn't know
the details, she believes huge debris and electrical wires made passage
impossible.

"We have 51 emergency canteens on the ground in the other affected
areas. But where the need is greatest, in downtown New Orleans, there
just is no access. That is the problem every relief group is facing,"
she said.

"America is obviously going to have to rethink disaster relief," said
Jim Burton, director of volunteer mobilization for the North American
Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention.

The Southern Baptists, who work under the Red Cross logo, are one of the
largest, best-equipped providers of volunteer disaster relief in the
United States. Most hot meals for disaster victims are cooked by
Southern Baptist mobile kitchen units. Burton is a veteran of many
hurricanes.

"Right now everybody is looking at FEMA and pointing fingers. Frankly, I
have to tell you, I'm sympathetic. When in your lifetime have we
experienced this? Even though we all do disaster scenario planning, we
have to accept the reality that this is an extraordinary event. This is
America's tsunami, that struck and ravaged America's most
disaster-vulnerable city," he said.

Because New Orleans remains under water, it is different from other
cities where Katrina struck harder, but where relief efforts are
proceeding normally. Agencies place workers and supplies outside
disaster areas before storms, to move in quickly. But there are always
delays, Burton said, because nothing is deployed until experts survey
the damage and decide where to most effectively put relief services.

The Southern Baptists operate more than 30 mobile kitchens that can each
produce 5,000 to 25,000 meals daily, as well as mobile showers and
communications trucks equipped with ham radios and cell phones. They are
supporting refugee centers in Texas and Tennessee, and doing relief in
Mississippi and Alabama. They have placed mobile kitchens around New
Orleans to feed people as they come out.

Initially they tried to drive a tractor-trailer kitchen into New Orleans
from Tennessee. It was stopped by the Mississippi Highway Patrol because
the causeway it would have to cross had been destroyed, Burton said.

His agency has planned for missing bridges. The Southern Baptists'
worst-case planning is for reaching Memphis after an earthquake on the
New Madrid fault, which in 1812 whiplashed at a stone-crushing 8.1 on
the Richter scale. Burton envisions the Mississippi without bridges.

So when state and local Southern Baptists raise money to build a mobile
kitchen, he tells them to design it to be hoisted in by helicopter.

After Katrina, he thought he would have to airlift a feeding unit to one
isolated town, but a road was cleared, he said. He doubts that dropping
a kitchen into the New Orleans' poisoned waters, filled with raw sewage,
dead bodies and possible industrial contaminants, would do any good. It
made sense to prepare meals outside the area and truck them in or bring
people out.

"The most important thing is to get the people out of that environment,"
he said.

He expects unusual problems to continue, because victims of Katrina
flooding will need emergency food for far longer than the usual week or
so. He's planning on at least two months.

Like the military, relief work requires a supply chain. Because business
management favors just-in-time inventory, rather than stockpiling goods
in warehouses, there isn't a huge stock of food to draw on, he said.

"When you go into a local area, it doesn't take long to wipe out the
local food inventories," he said.

The Red Cross serves pre-packaged food, including self-heating
"HeaterMeals" and snacks, that require no preparation. Yesterday the Red
Cross was running evacuation shelters in 16 states, and on Thursday, the
last day for which totals were available, served 170,000 meals and
snacks in 24 hours.

While emergency shelters typically empty out days after a hurricane or
other natural disaster, in Katrina's case they are becoming more
crowded, Hosler said. People who had evacuated to the homes of relatives
or hotels are moving in because they're out of money or want to be
closer to what is left of their homes.

Sid See

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m pautz <mpautz...@interserv.com> wrote in message
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> Sid See wrote:
>
> > AndJustice4All <And--Just...@this-honorable-court.org> wrote in message
> > news:0gv0i191magumtt77...@4ax.com...
> >
> >>
> >> http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
> >>The RED CROSS says it was blocked by the Louisiana state government
> >>
> >>Governor Katheen Blanco stopped the Red Cross from bringing
> >>food and water to Superdome
> >>http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524
> >>
> >
> >
> > "The state Homeland Security Department
> > had requested--and continues to request--
> > that the American Red Cross not come
> > back into New Orleans following the
> > hurricane. Our presence would keep people
> > from evacuating and encourage others to
> > come into the city."
> >
> > Homeland Security is a federal agency--
> > it's not under the control of LA Governor
> > Blanco at any level-- State or otherwise.
> >
>
> Notice the word "State" Homeland Security.
>
> There is a Louisiana Homeland Security (http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/
> ). It will be interesting to see who is really at fault here.


Indeed. The website states LHS works
"In coordination with the Federal Office
of Homeland Security". If the red-cross
claims are true, then there probably is
a need to know where the orders
originated from.

Still... the mole-hill of State/local alleged
errors pale in comparison to the
mountains of federal (HLS/FEMA)
failures that occured while attempting to
cope with in this disaster!

What cannot be set aside, is that Gov.
Blanco declared a state of emergency
2 days prior to Katrina's landfall, and
federal help was officially requested 1
day prior. For whatever reason(s) the
federal help did not materialize as per
FEMA's mission-- which makes the
red-cross issue rather moot, leaving
salient the issue of HLS/FEMA's gross
failures-- these must be accounted for.


> If it is
> FEMA, then remember this the next time some congressman suggests
> National Health Care.
>

Gee, I didn't know FEMA was a disaster
insurance program, like a national health
care insurance would be... :)

Sid
_______________________________


Funny how those who are refusing to

accept any responsibility for FEMA's
failures are the ones now yelling their

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