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Sid9
Apr 28, 2012, 9:16:00 PM4/28/12
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Let's just say it: The Republicans are the problem.
By Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, Published: April 27
Rep. Allen West, a Florida Republican, was recently captured on video
asserting that there are "78 to 81" Democrats in Congress who are members of
the Communist Party. Of course, it's not unusual for some renegade lawmaker
from either side of the aisle to say something outrageous. What made West's
comment - right out of the McCarthyite playbook of the 1950s - so striking
was the almost complete lack of condemnation from Republican congressional
leaders or other major party figures, including the remaining presidential
candidates.
It's not that the GOP leadership agrees with West; it is that such extreme
remarks and views are now taken for granted.
We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40
years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings,
we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today,
however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem
lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is
ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional
understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the
legitimacy of its political opposition.
When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly
impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country's
challenges.
"Both sides do it" or "There is plenty of blame to go around" are the
traditional refuges for an American news media intent on proving its lack of
bias, while political scientists prefer generality and neutrality when
discussing partisan polarization. Many self-styled bipartisan groups, in
their search for common ground, propose solutions that move both sides to
the center, a strategy that is simply untenable when one side is so far out
of reach.
It is clear that the center of gravity in the Republican Party has shifted
sharply to the right. Its once-legendary moderate and center-right
legislators in the House and the Senate - think Bob Michel, Mickey Edwards,
John Danforth, Chuck Hagel - are virtually extinct.
The post-McGovern Democratic Party, by contrast, while losing the bulk of
its conservative Dixiecrat contingent in the decades after the civil rights
revolution, has retained a more diverse base. Since the Clinton presidency,
it has hewed to the center-left on issues from welfare reform to fiscal
policy. While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their
25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal
post.
What happened? Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the
realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social
conservatives after the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement
launched in 1978 by California's Proposition 13, the rise of conservative
talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox
News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts
with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.
--
Ziggy's law, "For every complicated problem there's usually a simple
solution and its always wrong!"
By Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, Published: April 27
Rep. Allen West, a Florida Republican, was recently captured on video
asserting that there are "78 to 81" Democrats in Congress who are members of
the Communist Party. Of course, it's not unusual for some renegade lawmaker
from either side of the aisle to say something outrageous. What made West's
comment - right out of the McCarthyite playbook of the 1950s - so striking
was the almost complete lack of condemnation from Republican congressional
leaders or other major party figures, including the remaining presidential
candidates.
It's not that the GOP leadership agrees with West; it is that such extreme
remarks and views are now taken for granted.
We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40
years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings,
we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today,
however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem
lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is
ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional
understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the
legitimacy of its political opposition.
When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly
impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country's
challenges.
"Both sides do it" or "There is plenty of blame to go around" are the
traditional refuges for an American news media intent on proving its lack of
bias, while political scientists prefer generality and neutrality when
discussing partisan polarization. Many self-styled bipartisan groups, in
their search for common ground, propose solutions that move both sides to
the center, a strategy that is simply untenable when one side is so far out
of reach.
It is clear that the center of gravity in the Republican Party has shifted
sharply to the right. Its once-legendary moderate and center-right
legislators in the House and the Senate - think Bob Michel, Mickey Edwards,
John Danforth, Chuck Hagel - are virtually extinct.
The post-McGovern Democratic Party, by contrast, while losing the bulk of
its conservative Dixiecrat contingent in the decades after the civil rights
revolution, has retained a more diverse base. Since the Clinton presidency,
it has hewed to the center-left on issues from welfare reform to fiscal
policy. While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their
25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal
post.
What happened? Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the
realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social
conservatives after the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement
launched in 1978 by California's Proposition 13, the rise of conservative
talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox
News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts
with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.
--
Ziggy's law, "For every complicated problem there's usually a simple
solution and its always wrong!"
Tracey12
Apr 28, 2012, 9:27:42 PM4/28/12
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Awwwwwwwwwwww, is it Bush's fault again? HA HA HA!
wy
Apr 28, 2012, 9:54:21 PM4/28/12
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On Apr 28, 9:27 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awwwwwwwwwwww, is it Bush's fault again? HA HA HA!
No, this time it's ALL Repugnants' fault.
> Awwwwwwwwwwww, is it Bush's fault again? HA HA HA!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA............
Orval Fairbairn
Apr 28, 2012, 10:58:24 PM4/28/12
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In article
<de92a808-3450-408b...@m31g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Ah, yes -- According to the Big Zero, it's
1. Bush's fault
2. the Republicans' fault
3. the Saudis' fault
4. Israel's fault
5. Congress' fault
6. the Supreme Court's fault (coming soon)
7. the Constitution's fault
8. the San Andreas Fault
9. the tsunami's fault
10. the dog's fault (so we ate him)
11. never Obama's fault
Remember Harry Truman's famous "The buch stops here!" sign?
With Obama it's "The buck passed here."
It is time we put an adult in the Oval Office, instead of a whining
crybaby.
<de92a808-3450-408b...@m31g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
1. Bush's fault
2. the Republicans' fault
3. the Saudis' fault
4. Israel's fault
5. Congress' fault
6. the Supreme Court's fault (coming soon)
7. the Constitution's fault
8. the San Andreas Fault
9. the tsunami's fault
10. the dog's fault (so we ate him)
11. never Obama's fault
Remember Harry Truman's famous "The buch stops here!" sign?
With Obama it's "The buck passed here."
It is time we put an adult in the Oval Office, instead of a whining
crybaby.
Meat : It's Whats for Obama's Dinner @whitehouse.org Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners
Apr 28, 2012, 11:21:29 PM4/28/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Let's just say it: The Republicans are the problem.
>
> By Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, Published: April 27
>
Voters Disagree with you.
>
> By Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, Published: April 27
>
Election 2010: Democrat losses ran wide and deep - from coast to coast
From Politico this wrap up of the 2010 midterm election is damming for the
Democratic Party. Far from being a regional loss their losses were across
the board. The Democrat message was repudiated from coast to coast in
dozens of "blue" states. Very interesting:
Republicans have already gained as many as 60 seats in Congress, but when
GOP gains are looked at on a state-by-state basis, the bloody picture for
Democrats nationwide becomes even more gruesome. Several state legislatures
made historic transitions to Republican hands - some for the first time
since the 19th century - and nearly an entire generation of state Democrats
saw its ranks obliterated. Here is POLITICO's look at states that saw the
political landscape change dramatically.
. Alabama's most monumental shift came in the state Legislature, in which
Republicans gained control of both the House and the Senate for the first
time since 1874. State Sen. Robert Bentley's win kept the governor's mansion
in GOP hands, and Republicans picked up a net of seven seats in the Senate
and 19 seats in the House. In the state's most contested U.S. House seat,
Martha Roby defeated freshman Democratic Rep. Bobby Bright.
. Wisconsin was painted red as Ron Johnson defeated Democratic Sen. Russ
Feingold, Republican Scott Walker won the open governor's race and two House
seats flipped: Republican Sean Duffy won the seat of retiring Appropriations
Committee Chairman Dave Obey, and roofing contractor Reid Ribble defeated
Democratic Rep. Steve Kagen. But perhaps the Republicans' most historic
victory was gaining control of the state Assembly and the Senate - marking
the first time the GOP has had total control of the state government since
1998 and the first time one party won control of both houses on the same day
since 1938.
. Indiana's congressional delegation saw a Democratic slaughter that gives
the GOP a 2-1 edge. Rep. Baron Hill lost to Republican Todd Young, and
Democratic Rep. Brad Ellsworth not only suffered a landslide loss to
Republican Dan Coats in the Senate race; his congressional seat flipped to
the GOP as well. Democratic Rep. Joe Donnelly was able to hold on - but
barely. Republicans won full control of the Legislature, as well, gaining
control of the House and expanding their margin in the Senate for their
biggest gains in more than 25 years.
. Ohio Republicans aren't just happy that one of their own is poised to
become the next speaker of the House; they also defeated an incumbent
governor for just the third time in state history and handily held onto
their open U.S. Senate seat. Five congressional Democrats went down in
flames, giving the GOP a 13-5 edge in the Buckeye State's D.C. delegation.
In the state House, Republicans gained at least 12 seats and added two seats
in the state Senate, giving them their largest majority there since 1967.
. Colorado saw freshman Democratic Rep. Betsy Markey and three-term Rep.
John Salazar go down to their GOP challengers, but bright spots for
Democrats were wins in the U.S. Senate and gubernatorial contests. Democrats
held onto the state Senate, but Republicans won back a narrow majority in
the state House after a six-year drought.
. Maine's governorship flipped to the Republican column, with Paul LePage
edging out independent Eliot Cutler in the multicandidate race to give the
GOP the post for the first time since 1995. In the Legislature, both
chambers reverted to Republican hands - the first time in 36 years that the
GOP will control the state House and the first time in 14 years that it will
control the state Senate.
. When all is said and done, New York may have lost more Democratic
congressmen than any other state. At least four Democrats have already lost,
and with Democrats trailing in both the 1st and 25th districts, the Empire
State could lose as many as six Democrats. Several state legislative races
are undecided, as well, but Republicans have already made gains in the
chaotic Albany body.
. In Texas, Republican Gov. Rick Perry solidified his place in Lone Star
State history, winning a record third term. Republicans knocked off
Democratic incumbents - Chet Edwards and Ciro Rodriguez - in two
conservative districts, and they could pick up a third seat they hadn't
targeted until late, as Blake Farenthold leads Democratic Rep. Solomon Ortiz
by almost 800 votes. With gains in the Legislature giving Republicans the
largest majority for either party since 1984 - a net win of 22 seats in the
state House - the GOP is squarely in the driver's seat going into 2012
redistricting, in which it's poised to pick up at least four additional U.S.
House seats.
. Tennessee went from purple to a solid red. In addition to Bill Haslam
winning the open governorship, Republicans picked up three U.S. House
seats - winning two open Democratic seats and knocking off Rep. Lincoln
Davis to give them a 7-2 advantage on Capitol Hill. In the state House, the
GOP picked up 14 seats to expand its majority to a 64-34 advantage. In the
state Senate, it gained one seat for a 20-13 lead.
. Alaska Republicans retained both the governorship and their lone House
seat. While the outcome of the contentious Senate race still hangs in limbo,
it's certain that it will be held by a Republican, because both Lisa
Murkowski and Joe Miller would caucus with the GOP. In the state
Legislature, Republicans picked up two House seats, but the state Senate
remains evenly split, with 10 Republicans and 10 Democrats.
. In Arizona, Republicans added two House seats to their column, with Paul
Gosar besting freshman Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick and Dave Schweikert proving
victorious in his repeat race against two-term Democratic Rep. Harry
Mitchell. Still, the carnage could have been worse, as Democratic Reps. Raul
Grijalva and Gabrielle Gifford eked out wins. Buoyed by the popularity of
the state's stringent immigration bill, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer won a
full term - something that seemed like a long shot early this year. And Sen.
John McCain had no problem winning reelection. Down ballot, Republicans are
poised to make slight gains in both legislative chambers - picking up at
least two House seats and one state Senate seat.
. In South Carolina, Republicans finally picked off the one GOP-leaning
House district that had eluded them year after year, as state Sen. Mick
Mulvaney defeated House Budget Committee Chairman John Spratt, leaving Rep.
Jim Clyburn as the state's lone Democrat in Congress. State Rep. Nikki Haley's
win in the governor's race kept the seat in GOP hands, and Sen. Jim DeMint
easily won a second term. Republicans also expanded their influence in
Columbia, picking up three seats in the state House, giving them a 75-48
edge, and holding a 27-19 advantage in the state Senate.
. North Carolina's Legislature is under GOP control for the first time in
more than a century. Republicans picked up 15 seats in the state House and
gained 11 in the state Senate. Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue wasn't on the
ballot, but Republican Sen. Richard Burr easily dispatched his challenger,
Secretary of State Elaine Marshall. In congressional races, Republicans had
hoped to defeat freshman Democratic Rep. Larry Kissell, but he prevailed.
Their lone pickup will likely come in the Raleigh-area 2nd District, in
which Republican Renee Ellmers holds a 2,000-vote edge over Rep. Bob
Etheridge, although the Democrat has requested a recount.
. New Hampshire saw both of its congressional districts flip back to the GOP
thanks to victories by former Rep. Charlie Bass and Frank Guinta's defeat of
Democratic Rep. Carol Shea-Porter. Kelly Ayotte easily posted a win in her
Senate race, but perhaps the most amazing gains were in the Legislature.
Republicans gained veto-proof majorities in both chambers - 297 of 400 seats
in the state House, the most since 1984, and 19 of 24 Senate seats, the most
since 1962.
. Montana didn't have much top-of-the-ticket action, but the shift statewide
was historic: For the first time since 1953, Republicans gained control of
both legislative chambers, to hold 67 of 100 House seats and 31 of 50 Senate
seats.
. South Dakota saw once-promising Blue Dog Democratic Rep. Stephanie Herseth
Sandlin fall to GOP rising star Kristi Noem. No Democrat could muster enough
courage to challenge Sen. John Thune, and GOP Lt. Gov. Dennis Daugaard
easily succeeded fellow Republican Mike Rounds. Just six Democrats are left
in the 35-member state Senate, and Republicans hold 51 of the 70 state House
seats.
. Michigan Republican Rick Snyder rolled to a gubernatorial win, benefiting
from term-limited Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm's unpopularity.
Republicans also took over two Democratic House seats, defeating Rep. Mark
Schauer and winning retiring Rep. Bart Stupak's seat in the 1st District.
The GOP consolidated its power in the Legislature, gaining control of the
House by picking up more than 20 seats, and increasing its majority in the
Senate by four.
. After the GOP wave hit Pennsylvania, Democrats lost their open
gubernatorial and Senate seats, saw four Democratic congressmen go down and
lost an open seat they once held. Republicans regained control of the state
House, which they lost four years ago, but Democrats held onto the state
Senate.
. The Illinois Senate race was among the crown jewels of GOP national gains,
as Rep. Mark Kirk won President Barack Obama's former seat. Republicans also
picked up at least three House seats - with Bobby Schilling, Randy Hultgren
and Adam Kinzinger posting wins over Democratic incumbents. Rep. Melissa
Bean could also soon be in that column - she trails GOP challenger Joe Walsh
by 553 votes. A bright spot for Democrats: Gov. Pat Quinn, widely expected
to lose to Republican Bill Brady, won election to a full term. Plus, while
Republicans picked up six state House seats and two state Senate seats,
Democrats retained their majorities.
. Idaho Republican Raul Labrador, though not his party's first choice in the
primary, beat Rep. Walt Minnick, despite the freshman Democrat's best
efforts to tout his conservative voting record. GOP Gov. Butch Otter and
Sen. Mike Crapo easily won reelection, and Republicans expanded their
majority in the state House.
. Iowa wasn't the bloodbath for the Democrats it could have been: The state's
Democratic trio of congressmen were heavily targeted by Republicans, but all
three managed to survive. Democratic Gov. Chet Culver's luck wasn't as good;
he was defeated by former Gov. Terry Branstad. And on the state level,
Republicans won back the state House, having lost it in 2006, and made gains
in the state Senate.
. Florida Republicans swept statewide offices, with Marco Rubio winning a
Senate seat and Rick Scott the governorship. Four congressional Democratic
incumbents went down in defeat, and Republicans made gains in the state
House and Senate.
. After Kansas Democratic Gov. Mark Parkinson chose not to run after
inheriting the job from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen
Sebelius, Sen. Sam Brownback easily won the governor's race, and Rep. Jerry
Moran easily won Brownback's vacant Senate seat. With the state's lone
congressional Democrat, Dennis Moore, retiring, his wife, Stephene, was
unable to hold onto his seat. Kevin Yoder's win gives the state an all-GOP
delegation in Washington. Republicans also picked up 16 seats in the state
House.
. Oklahoma ushered in a Republican governor and expanded GOP leads in both
state legislative chambers. But the GOP was still unable to knock off the
state's lone Democratic congressman, Blue Dog Dan Boren.
Sid9
Apr 28, 2012, 11:28:05 PM4/28/12
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"Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners" <Dog Meat : It's Whats for Obama's Dinner
@ White House.org> wrote in message
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Let's just say it: The Republicans are the problem.
By Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, Published: April 27
clairbear
Apr 28, 2012, 11:31:49 PM4/28/12
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Orval Fairbairn <orfai...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:orfairbairn-
5DC546.225...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net:
Obama never met the buck he actually had to work for.
5DC546.225...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net:
clairbear
Apr 28, 2012, 11:40:29 PM4/28/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnicgb$uci$1...@dont-email.me:
Let's just say it: DNC ideolog parrots are the problem.
Wake UP Sidney BOTH PARTIES ARE THE PROBLEM and you are to senile to see
As long as the indulge in partisan bickering and we have someone as
devisively and deceitfully partisan as Obama the Community Organizer
residing on Pennsylvania Ave, thing, won't change,
BTW how's tha hopey-change thing workin'
It's time for both parties to work for the people and not against them like
the current adminstration and it's lickspittle goons are. FOOLS LIKE YOU
EMPOWER THE IDIOTS IN THE CURRENT ADMINSTRATION
Let's just say it: DNC ideolog parrots are the problem.
Wake UP Sidney BOTH PARTIES ARE THE PROBLEM and you are to senile to see
As long as the indulge in partisan bickering and we have someone as
devisively and deceitfully partisan as Obama the Community Organizer
residing on Pennsylvania Ave, thing, won't change,
BTW how's tha hopey-change thing workin'
It's time for both parties to work for the people and not against them like
the current adminstration and it's lickspittle goons are. FOOLS LIKE YOU
EMPOWER THE IDIOTS IN THE CURRENT ADMINSTRATION
Sid9
Apr 28, 2012, 11:43:15 PM4/28/12
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"clairbear" <clai...@msn.com> wrote in message
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"They did it, too!"
Are you people five years old?
Bible Studies with Al Sharpton
Apr 29, 2012, 7:57:22 AM4/29/12
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AP: US Growth Too Sluggish to Drive Down Unemployment
How weak was the economy's 2.2 percent growth rate from January
through March?
Consider that a growth rate of 2.5 percent or higher is considered
good when the economy is healthy. But not at a time of high
unemployment.
With 12.7 million people unemployed, today's economy needs much faster
growth to boost hiring. Growth would have to be roughly 4 percent for
a full year to lower the unemployment rate, now 8.2 percent, by 1
percentage point.
http://www.moneynews.com/Economy/Economy-growth-sluggish-jobs/2012/04/27/id/437337
-----
Bad News For America Is Bad News For Obozo
How weak was the economy's 2.2 percent growth rate from January
through March?
Consider that a growth rate of 2.5 percent or higher is considered
good when the economy is healthy. But not at a time of high
unemployment.
With 12.7 million people unemployed, today's economy needs much faster
growth to boost hiring. Growth would have to be roughly 4 percent for
a full year to lower the unemployment rate, now 8.2 percent, by 1
percentage point.
http://www.moneynews.com/Economy/Economy-growth-sluggish-jobs/2012/04/27/id/437337
-----
Bad News For America Is Bad News For Obozo
clairbear
Apr 29, 2012, 9:51:38 AM4/29/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnidco$31j$1...@dont-email.me:
Your Silliness aside IT is the system of American politics. The say what
you have to say to get elected, do and say what you have to do to get re-
elected and get others like you elected suystem gives us leaders like
Pelosi, Reid and Obama It is t much the same with the other side buut the
dems are much better at the self serving deceit. And fool like you swallow
it like a cheap slut after a frat party. Your kind of blind lickspittle
kowtowing to at the alter of Obama is how many of the Germans in the 1930s
let their nation go down the road to total ruin, All it take is for good
men to do nothing and the tyranny of thought, word and deed takes over,
tThat is why we oppose the America left wing tyranny while keeping a
watchful eye both sides. All a tyrant needs is sheeple like you
you have to say to get elected, do and say what you have to do to get re-
elected and get others like you elected suystem gives us leaders like
Pelosi, Reid and Obama It is t much the same with the other side buut the
dems are much better at the self serving deceit. And fool like you swallow
it like a cheap slut after a frat party. Your kind of blind lickspittle
kowtowing to at the alter of Obama is how many of the Germans in the 1930s
let their nation go down the road to total ruin, All it take is for good
men to do nothing and the tyranny of thought, word and deed takes over,
tThat is why we oppose the America left wing tyranny while keeping a
watchful eye both sides. All a tyrant needs is sheeple like you
Orval Fairbairn
Apr 29, 2012, 12:37:35 PM4/29/12
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In article <jnidco$31j$1...@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Is that the new Obama campaign slogan?
wrote:
clairbear
Apr 29, 2012, 7:19:10 PM4/29/12
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Orval Fairbairn <orfai...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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"Don't blame me blame Bush"
Or maybe "HOPE you did not see the lack of CHANGE"
Oglethorpe
Apr 29, 2012, 11:04:51 PM4/29/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Let's just say it: The Republicans are the problem.
Bull fucking shit. Democrats are the problem. $5 trllion in new deficts, our
credit downgraded, 1.5 million more unemployed than in January, 2009, three
plus years of over 8% unemployment - worst since the Great Depression, worst
year on record for home sales, the murder of two US Govt. agrents with Fast
and Furious "gunwal" guns - ALL gifts from the fucktards of the DNC and the
Obama administration.
Sid9
Apr 29, 2012, 9:14:57 PM4/29/12
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"Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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senile, and bush,jr the incompetent, left for the Democrats to
resolve...It'll take a little longer.
Sid9
Apr 29, 2012, 9:17:41 PM4/29/12
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news:XnsA044C4871...@216.196.97.142...
.
.
.
It's a Republican mess so large that it will take a bit longer to clean it
up.
Romney is bush III
.
.
It's a Republican mess so large that it will take a bit longer to clean it
up.
Romney is bush III
clairbear
Apr 29, 2012, 9:32:59 PM4/29/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnkp7n$9mf$1...@dont-email.me:
So tell us how long until you and Obama will continue with tha denial of
his lack of economic leadership, vision and knowledge.
> Romney is bush III
>
Bush and even Clinton would be preferable to the ass clown in the oval
office now He almost makes one forget just how bad Jimmy Carter was
his lack of economic leadership, vision and knowledge.
> Romney is bush III
>
Bush and even Clinton would be preferable to the ass clown in the oval
office now He almost makes one forget just how bad Jimmy Carter was
Orval Fairbairn
Apr 29, 2012, 10:43:13 PM4/29/12
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In article <jnkp2j$8si$1...@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Sid9" and Obama have forgotten the First Rule of Holes:
If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!
November election advice:
Select "R" for Recovery; select "D" for Depression.
wrote:
If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!
November election advice:
Select "R" for Recovery; select "D" for Depression.
emoneyjoe
Apr 29, 2012, 10:47:28 PM4/29/12
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It's not my fault, blame dubya.
emoneyjoe
Apr 29, 2012, 10:48:21 PM4/29/12
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Lamont Cranston
Apr 30, 2012, 8:59:33 PM4/30/12
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economic turnarounds in U.S. history, you fucking idiot.
Oglethorpe
Apr 30, 2012, 11:50:50 PM4/30/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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of $161 billion. That year we had under 5% undmployment. Currently, we've
had three years of over 8% unemployment, $5 trillion in new deficit
spending, our credit rating has breen lowered, the worst year on record for
home sales, no federal budget in over 1100 days and likely no 2013 budget
either - all on Obama's watch.
linuxgal
Apr 30, 2012, 9:59:10 PM4/30/12
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
>
> LOL! Obama's economic leadership has orchestrated one of the biggest
> economic turnarounds in U.S. history, you fucking idiot.
If you're a liberal, who's reading this newsgroup to you?
>
> LOL! Obama's economic leadership has orchestrated one of the biggest
> economic turnarounds in U.S. history, you fucking idiot.
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A much sharper-than-expected decline in Midwestern business activity in
April reported on Monday by an industry group was the latest evidence of
a slowdown.
"We had such a strong first quarter, and we've lost that momentum in the
last two weeks," said Jake Dollarhide, chief executive at Longbow Asset
Management in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The data "reinforces the ominous tone on
Wall Street, along with the fears we have about Europe."
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clairbear
Apr 30, 2012, 10:42:40 PM4/30/12
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linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in news:q6mdnf0-
xeqY2QLSnZ2d...@giganews.com:
Why should liberals tell the truth when a lie sounds so much better to
them?
xeqY2QLSnZ2d...@giganews.com:
them?
clairbear
Apr 30, 2012, 10:46:36 PM4/30/12
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"Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com> wrote in
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>
> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:jnkp7n$9mf$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "clairbear" <clai...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsA044C4871...@216.196.97.142...
>>> Orval Fairbairn <orfai...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:orfairbairn-E740A8.12373529042012@70-3-168-
216.pools.spcsdns.net
I'm sure it's all Bush's fault the dems can't come up with a budget BTW
how many continuing resolutions have the had to use to keep the
government funded have we had under the obama admin.
news:5oydnRGiwb5z3ALS...@mchsi.com:
>
> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:jnkp7n$9mf$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "clairbear" <clai...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsA044C4871...@216.196.97.142...
>>> Orval Fairbairn <orfai...@earthlink.net> wrote in
216.pools.spcsdns.net
how many continuing resolutions have the had to use to keep the
government funded have we had under the obama admin.
Sid9
Apr 30, 2012, 11:10:22 PM4/30/12
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You really believe Obama is a Messiah.
Screwing up our government and our economy started in 1981 when St. Reagan,
the senile, took office.
The effect became obvious in November of 2008 when bush,jr the incompetent
was packed and waiting for the moving van to take him back to Texas.
You think Obama should have fixed 18 years of deregulation in three years.
You truly believe President Obama's a messiah!
Screwing up our government and our economy started in 1981 when St. Reagan,
the senile, took office.
The effect became obvious in November of 2008 when bush,jr the incompetent
was packed and waiting for the moving van to take him back to Texas.
You think Obama should have fixed 18 years of deregulation in three years.
You truly believe President Obama's a messiah!
emoneyjoe
Apr 30, 2012, 11:12:34 PM4/30/12
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Sid9
Apr 30, 2012, 11:14:55 PM4/30/12
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news:XnsA045E7B13...@216.196.97.142...
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.
.
.
Presidents propose budgets.
Congress passes budgets.
The Republican controlled Senate cannot pass a budget.
McConnell has only one STATED goal: Make Obama a one term president.
He says exactly that.
The needs of the American people mean nothing to McConnell
.
.
.
Presidents propose budgets.
Congress passes budgets.
The Republican controlled Senate cannot pass a budget.
McConnell has only one STATED goal: Make Obama a one term president.
He says exactly that.
The needs of the American people mean nothing to McConnell
clairbear
Apr 30, 2012, 11:25:54 PM4/30/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnnkfi$21d$1...@dont-email.me:
But not the dems congress during Obama's first 2 years
you seile stupid or have you lost all sense of what is truth or loie
It's more than likely all of the above
a democrat so the republicans want to replace him with a republican.
Obviously you do not understand politics and poltical parties
> He says exactly that.
Site when Site when
United States
>
> The Republican controlled Senate cannot pass a budget.
Oh great senile one the Senate is controle by Reid and the democrat Are
you seile stupid or have you lost all sense of what is truth or loie
It's more than likely all of the above
> McConnell has only one STATED goal: Make Obama a one term president.
Gee Is'nt the goal of a party to get their candidate elected Obama is
a democrat so the republicans want to replace him with a republican.
Obviously you do not understand politics and poltical parties
> He says exactly that.
Site when Site when
> The needs of the American people mean nothing to McConnell
Theeds of the people matter even less to the community organizer of the
United States
>
Sid9
Apr 30, 2012, 11:32:56 PM4/30/12
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Same LIE
Democrats did not have 60 votes in the Senate to get anything passed by the
lock step Republicans.
Not one Republican would use his own brain and conscience to do what’s
right.
Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
Democrats did not have 60 votes in the Senate to get anything passed by the
lock step Republicans.
Not one Republican would use his own brain and conscience to do what’s
right.
Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
Orval Fairbairn
Apr 30, 2012, 11:41:57 PM4/30/12
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In article <jnnkfi$21d$1...@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net>
HUH?? The DemocRATS have been in charge of the Senate since 2006.
Harry Reid simply will not allow budget resolutions on the Senate floor.
The House has submitted several budgets, which Reid and the 'RATs have
torpedoed.
>
> McConnell has only one STATED goal: Make Obama a one term president.
>
> He says exactly that.
>
> The needs of the American people mean nothing to McConnell
How about TWO terms for Obama? One in office, one in prison, just like
his buddy Blago in Illinois, who comes from his Chicago political
machine.
Harry Reid simply will not allow budget resolutions on the Senate floor.
The House has submitted several budgets, which Reid and the 'RATs have
torpedoed.
>
> McConnell has only one STATED goal: Make Obama a one term president.
>
> He says exactly that.
>
> The needs of the American people mean nothing to McConnell
his buddy Blago in Illinois, who comes from his Chicago political
machine.
clairbear
May 1, 2012, 10:11:53 AM5/1/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnnlhb$6li$1...@dont-email.me:
>> The needs of the people matter even less to the community organizer
You really are out there with out a place to stand when you go to the
Godwin thing Your Argument is so weak you have to go there
One word describes you, PATHETIC
But go ahead sid keep listening to the voices in your head
of
>> the United States
>>>
>>
>
> Same LIE
> Democrats did not have 60 votes in the Senate to get anything passed
> by the lock step Republicans.
> Not one Republican would use his own brain and conscience to do what’s
> right.
> Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
>
>
Reductio ad Hitlerum
>> the United States
>>>
>>
>
> Same LIE
> Democrats did not have 60 votes in the Senate to get anything passed
> by the lock step Republicans.
> Not one Republican would use his own brain and conscience to do what’s
> right.
> Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
>
>
You really are out there with out a place to stand when you go to the
Godwin thing Your Argument is so weak you have to go there
One word describes you, PATHETIC
But go ahead sid keep listening to the voices in your head
Sid9
May 1, 2012, 10:56:46 AM5/1/12
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news:XnsA04667BCC...@216.196.97.142...
You don’t deny the FACTS.
You simply turn this into a personal attack
You simply turn this into a personal attack
clairbear
May 1, 2012, 11:38:22 AM5/1/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnotjh$8d0$1...@dont-email.me:
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnnlhb$6li$1@dont-
No facts to refute
The DEms had 60 Votes to pass the Porkulus and Obamacare the republicans
are philosophically oppose to the over bloated and overly costly Obama
care
YOU DID NOT POST A FACT... ergo YOU LIE
Obamacare The republicans voted in line with their beliefs in what will
work for the nation
YOU DID NOT POST A FACT... ergo YOU LIE
leader especially not in the Godwinian way you mean it
YOU DID NOT POST A FACT... ergo YOU LIE
You like the double speak of liberals post LIES AS TRUTH and CALL THE
REAL TRUTH LIES Saul Alinsky would be proud of you
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:jnnlhb$6li$1@dont-
The DEms had 60 Votes to pass the Porkulus and Obamacare the republicans
are philosophically oppose to the over bloated and overly costly Obama
care
YOU DID NOT POST A FACT... ergo YOU LIE
>>> Not one Republican would use his own brain and conscience to do
what’s
>>> right.
What right? How about the bribing of fellow dems who did not support
what’s
>>> right.
Obamacare The republicans voted in line with their beliefs in what will
work for the nation
YOU DID NOT POST A FACT... ergo YOU LIE
>>> Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
Fuhrer? Reductio ad Hitlerum The republicans actually have no one single
leader especially not in the Godwinian way you mean it
YOU DID NOT POST A FACT... ergo YOU LIE
>>>
>>
>> Reductio ad Hitlerum
>> You really are out there with out a place to stand when you go to
the
>> Godwin thing Your Argument is so weak you have to go there
>> One word describes you, PATHETIC
>> But go ahead sid keep listening to the voices in your head
>
> You don’t deny the FACTS.
> You simply turn this into a personal attack
>
GEE THREE STRIKES In one post
>>
>> Reductio ad Hitlerum
>> You really are out there with out a place to stand when you go to
the
>> Godwin thing Your Argument is so weak you have to go there
>> One word describes you, PATHETIC
>> But go ahead sid keep listening to the voices in your head
>
> You don’t deny the FACTS.
> You simply turn this into a personal attack
>
You like the double speak of liberals post LIES AS TRUTH and CALL THE
REAL TRUTH LIES Saul Alinsky would be proud of you
Orval Fairbairn
May 1, 2012, 12:46:39 PM5/1/12
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In article <jnnlhb$6li$1...@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net>
> Not one Republican would use his own brain and conscience to do what零
> right.
It seems to me that they did! It was the DemocRATS who swallowed Obama's
program wholesale.
> Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
... and the DemocRATS didn't?
> right.
It seems to me that they did! It was the DemocRATS who swallowed Obama's
program wholesale.
> Instead each and every Republican followed their Fuhrer's dictates
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