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vict0r

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:33:07 AM12/13/09
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They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
exalted and one villified.


??


Mitchell Holman

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:13:40 AM12/13/09
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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in news:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-
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> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> exalted and one villified.

Why is adulterer Mark Sanford still in office after
voting to remove Clinton over adultery?

Salty Stan

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:33:00 AM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 1:13 am, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote innews:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-

> 03.dc1.easynews.com:
>
>
>
> > They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> > exalted and one villified.
>
>    Why is adulterer Mark Sanford still in office after
> voting to remove Clinton over adultery?

Why did you evade the question?

z

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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in news:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-
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>

> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> exalted and one villified.
>
>
> ??
>
>

I don't understand why Tiger is getting so much shit. If I was him i'd
just say 'fuck you' and keep winning at golf.

It ain't like he's the leader of the free fucking world

JayPee Vee

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Dec 13, 2009, 3:51:41 AM12/13/09
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Why do you care?
Ever heard of this concept called "private life"?

vict0r

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:07:35 AM12/13/09
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Because Clintons impeachment was due to lying under oath and not adultery?


Nixon.D

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"z" <z...@yada.yada.com> wrote in message
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> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in news:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-
> 03.dc1.easynews.com:
>
>>
>> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
>> exalted and one villified.
>>
>>
>> ??
>>
>>
>
> I don't understand why Tiger is getting so much shit. If I was him i'd
> just say 'fuck you' and keep winning at golf.
>
====================================================

Yours is the most sensible thing I've read or heard about this whole silly
matter. He's got plenty of money/means to live wherever/however he wants.
He should play the game he enjoys most as well as he can as long as he can.

Then, when he gets some gray hair and can no longer seriously compete w. the
top pros., he should CONTINUE to play the game of golf, find himself a good,
steady, black woman and live the good life right up until the day he goes on
up to that beautiful course in the sky. Black man w. white woman stuff
just never seems to produce anything good; he should be smart enough to
realize that; maybe he is just now realizing that truth.

================================

GLOBALIST

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:05:38 AM12/13/09
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I have never really heard anyone bad-mouth Tiger Woods. It is the neo-
cons who pretend to be virgins.

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GLOBALIST

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:20:20 AM12/13/09
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I have to admit however that I am glad to hear you to admit that
President Clinton "is a hero". Ironically all the mud flung at him,
slattered right back on all the folks who were flinging it.

liberal

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:02:39 PM12/13/09
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Neither should be "villified." Neither wandered around declaring he
was a model husband, and that only he was the proper model for the
rest of American men to emulate. Unlike the reichtard politicians you
follow.

John Q Public

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:11:52 PM12/13/09
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On 2009-12-13 09:18:56 -0500, Gogarty <Gog...@Clongowes.edu.ie> said:

> In article <x92Vm.375944$Jp1.2...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>,
> l...@oocom.netb says...

> Bullbleep.

You want to rewrite history on this ttoooooooooo
BS, it was about that and you little leftwing schills know it.
Ol Billy lied to congress, the courts and the American people, thats
what hoisted his petard!

Mitchell Holman

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Dec 13, 2009, 3:23:49 PM12/13/09
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John Q Public <my2c...@me.com> wrote in
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Conservatives object to being lied to? Since when?


"We found the weapons of mass destruction."
George Bush, 5/31/03

vs..............

"It turns out that we have not found weapons
of mass destruction."
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Oct. 4, 2004.


"My message today to those in Iraq is: We'll stay the course."
George Bush [4/13/04]

vs...............

"We've never been 'stay the course'"
George Bush [10/22/06]


Sid9

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:36:23 PM12/13/09
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"GLOBALIST" <free....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have to admit however that I am glad to hear you to admit that
> President Clinton "is a hero". Ironically all the mud flung at him,
> slattered right back on all the folks who were flinging it.
>

Bill Clinton is a hero for the repair work he did.
Bill Clinton repaired the damage done by Reagan and HW Bush.
Then came the president only second to Reagan in incompetence,
bush.jr.


CB

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:42:31 PM12/13/09
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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in message
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>
> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> exalted and one villified.

Because Slick had Sidney Blumenthal and James Carville who turned Monica
into a bimbo groupie that just wanted another notch on her handbag. Slick
was a rock star who was a victim of Keen Starr, not of his own sinful
nature.

Slick, the FOB and the media were able to market the concept of 'relative
moral equality', where appropriate and (sin) inappropriate behavior didn't
matter if you lie long and loud enough to a culture that values stardom over
character.
--
CB
"Neither philosophy, nor religion, nor morality, nor wisdom, nor
interest will ever govern nations or parties against their vanity,
their pride, their resentment or revenge, or their avarice or
ambition. Nothing but force and power and strength can restrain them."
--John Adams


Anlatt the Builder

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:14:50 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 2:18 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@southslope.net> wrote:
> "Mitchell Holman" <noem...@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:Xns9CE091ACF2E72...@216.196.97.130...
> > "r wiley" <rawi...@southslope.net> wrote in
> >news:hg3ba1$dtt$1...@news.netins.net:
>
> >> It appears that Woods offended African American, liberal, pseudo
> >> intellectuals by bedding only white women who look like
> >> Barbie dolls and/or Playboy models.  At least one collumnist
> >> for the Washington Post declares that a need for validation
> >> prevented .Woods from being attracted to brown skinned women
> >> with broad noses.
>
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/07/AR20091
> >> 20702944.html
>
> >> On the other hand, talk show personality Joy Behar defended Woods
> >> with "At least he's not one of those pro-marriage right wingers."
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9B8ARnlTNc
>
> >    Just so. Ever notice how "family values" conservatives
> > who rail against Tiger Woods and Bill Clinton are sooooo
> > silent when it comes to Larry Craig and Mark Sanford and
> > John Ensign and Mark Foley?
>
> Which, of course, cuts both ways.  Leftists never bring up Mel Reynolds,
> Elliot Spitzer, Gary Condit, John Edwards, or Jim McGreevey.
>
>

Sure they do. Try Jon Stewart, Colbert, feminist web sites, etc.

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and I bring up Spitzer frequently. I am
annoyed everytime he has an article in Slate.com. Why should we be
listening to him?

Mitchell Holman

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:21:04 PM12/13/09
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Anlatt the Builder <tir...@aol.com> wrote in
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> On Dec 13, 2:18�pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@southslope.net> wrote:
>> "Mitchell Holman" <noem...@comcast.net> wrote in
>> messagenews:Xns9CE091ACF

> 2E72noemai...@216.196.97.130...


Perhaps he is the alternative to that other disgraced
adulterer Newt Gingrich who similarly won't shut up.

Mitchell Holman

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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
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>
> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in message
> news:t0%Um.149778$mn3....@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one
>> is exalted and one villified.
>
> Because Slick had Sidney Blumenthal and James Carville who turned
> Monica into a bimbo groupie that just wanted another notch on her
> handbag. Slick was a rock star who was a victim of Keen Starr, not of
> his own sinful nature.
>
> Slick, the FOB and the media were able to market the concept of
> 'relative moral equality', where appropriate and (sin) inappropriate
> behavior didn't matter if you lie long and loud enough to a culture
> that values stardom over character.


Perhaps that explains why "family values" adulterers
John Ensign and Mark Sanford and David Vitter are still
in office.


edi...@netpath.net

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:47:40 PM12/13/09
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Bill Klinton is a "hero" (to liberals) and Tiger not because Bill
Klinton was delivering the liberal agenda - and Tiger just was
shilling for Big Business.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!

leonox1

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On Dec 13, 4:11 am, "Nixon.D" <nixo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "z" <z...@yada.yada.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9CE0454D90...@216.196.97.130...> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote innews:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-

> > 03.dc1.easynews.com:
>
> >> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> >> exalted and one villified.
>
> >> ??
>
> > I don't understand why Tiger is getting so much shit.  If I was him i'd
> > just say 'fuck you' and keep winning at golf.
>
> ====================================================
>
> Yours is the most sensible thing I've read or heard about this whole silly
> matter.   He's got plenty of money/means to live wherever/however he wants.
> He should play the game he enjoys most as well as he can as long as he can.
>

You know, you're right. When you get right down to it, Tiger Wood's
private life is really nobody's business but his own.
=

Jim Alder

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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in news:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-
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>

> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> exalted and one villified.
>
>
> ??

He's exalted because he's such a good golfer.


--
My girlfriend asked me "Have you been having
sex behind my back?"

I said "Who in the hell did you think it was?"

Wexford

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:04:55 AM12/14/09
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How can you say that with a straight face while creatrues like
Gingrich and Vitter inhabit the Right? I sat through the Clinton era
being fed stories of his exploits ad nauseum by the news and by the
tireless right-wing propaganda machine. NO ONE was preaching moral
relativism on TV, the radio or the newspapers. That's just malarkey
cooked up by right-wingers to explain-away the fact that despite their
best efforts Clinton still emerged popular and intact after a smear
campaign that cost tens of millions of dollars and that disracted the
country for years. His nemesis, Gingrich, didn't. Too bad for you.

family

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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in message
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They both did the same thing with the same number of women,
yet one is exalted and one vilified.


It was not until *911* that former President Bill Clinton was moved from
being vilified the lead story in the Media and by that we mean TV, RADIO and
NEWSPAPERS.
Go figure!


CB

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"Wexford" <wry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Clinton did it while President, not Newt or Vitter. It was impeachable and
Clinton was impeached. He would have been convicted for lying under oath in
a depisition but today it seems lying is ok when under oath.

It's surreal to think holding elected officials to a high standard is
attack, party be damned.

Now Eric Holder is trying to but the CIA on trial by giving KSM a civilian
trial. What he's really tring to do is try Bush and Chaney through the back
door.

DimocRATs will be the death of America


Lamont Cranston

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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in message
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> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> exalted and one villified.
>
>
> ??

Clinton is not exalted and Woods is not villified. Move on.

pyjamarama

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:27:42 PM12/14/09
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Especially given those (very) credible accusations of rape and
aggravated sexual abuse on Bubba's part...

And at present, Tiger hasn't been forced to pay almost a cool mil in
restitution to a victim of sexual misconduct.

Bubba did.

freeisbest

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:34:20 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 12:11 pm, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com>
wrote:

> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in message
> news:t0%Um.149778$mn3....@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com
>
> > hey both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet
> > one is exalted and one villified.
>
> Clinton is not exalted and Woods is not villified.  Move on.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It'd nice if he could move on, but he's admitting that he can't.
Gossip about Clinton is the closest he'll ever get to having a sex
life of his own.

Transition Zone

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On Dec 13, 12:33 am, "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote:
> They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> exalted and one villified.

I thought one was a sports jock. What's not expected ??

Transition Zone

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On Dec 13, 1:33 am, Salty Stan <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 1:13 am, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote innews:t0%Um.149778$mn3.36893@en-nntp-
> > 03.dc1.easynews.com:
>
> > > They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
> >> exalted and one villified.
>
>>  Why is adulterer Mark Sanford still in office after
> >voting to remove Clinton over adultery?
>
>Why did you evade the question ?

Why won't you answer it?

ArmyOfDorkness

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"freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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He could use his other hand and it would be like he's having an affair too.

FACE

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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:33:07 -0600, in alt.politics, "vict0r"
<l...@oocom.netb>, wrote

>
>They both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet one is
>exalted and one villified.
>
>
>??
>

Tiger might be about half dozen different races but everyone see him as
"black". So like our president, he embodies the "magical negro". That's
why he fell so hard compared to the felons in the NFL and NBA, but you can
research that term on google and get an idea............

Wikipedia says that "magical negro" is a subset of "numinous negro" which
is described in this cut from an eight year old editorial:

"Who is the Numinous Negro? He is everywhere, especially in our hearts,
and if we are lucky he is our friend. The dictionary defines "numinous" as
"of or pertaining to a numen," which was a Roman term for "the presiding
divinity . . . of a place." "Numinous" also means "spiritually elevated."
Jungians and literary critics love the word, but normal theologians use it
too. The Numinous Negro is a presiding divinity. The place he presides
over is America, and contact with him elevates us spiritually."

So much for Tiger............

Now Bill Clinton? I don't think he was godlike in hardly anyone's eyes.
And no one really expected better.

Also, it appears that Tiger had more, numerically, dalliances and from
what I hear was quite -- to put it delicately -- "creative" with his
extra-marital affairs -- as well as crass. On the crass part, I heard
today that he was with some trophy whore when his dad died and she said
that he left the hotel for a few hours and then returned..........

Now on the crassness-o-meter, that last bit i heard today may rank up
there with "you might want to put some ice on that lip", but it does seem
to be part of a broader tapestry.

It is my position that no one falls as far and as hard as the severely
idolized people in our society who are shown to have feet of clay........


FACE

Wayne

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:45:04 PM12/14/09
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@Shadow.com> wrote in message
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Yeah. Tiger needs to do the Clinton "grin and shrug"...then get back out on
the golf course and kick ass. Of course, his wife may fit him with one of
those electronic ankle bracelets. But he could get used to playing golf
with it.


Lamont Cranston

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Dec 15, 2009, 10:39:08 AM12/15/09
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LOL

I suspect that is the case with all of these imbeciles who are still
obsessed with where Clinton put his penis.

Hiccum Blurpaedius

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:54:02 AM12/17/09
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Clinton is a lying dick and Woods is a lying prick.

Exterminate the Red Crucifix

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Transition Zone

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CB wrote:
>
> Clinton did it while President, not Newt or Vitter.

Daddy Bush and Jennifer Fitzgerald shared a suite. Not Clinton.

Phlip

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Newt did it while in office. Try again?

Tiger's a "villian" because he had a thing for the chocolate-on-
vanilla style, and because his adventures were so serial they speak
more of predation than love.

Both, however, used power to exploit women below their class...

*us*

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Was it for the golden showers?

freeisbest

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On Dec 14, 5:44 pm, "ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAsKni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "freeisbest" <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<chuckle> What with being a LOL and all, I had to have the DH
explain this one to me. But you're right...

freeisbest

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On Dec 15, 10:39 am, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com>
wrote:
> "freeisbest" <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Are they really, do you think? OK, for many of them,
Clintonmania is just the wallowing-in-stupid-gossip that's the best
many rightwingers can do. They don't have a clue about acting like an
adult citizen.
But at the same time there's something familiar and Rovian about
repub dingleberries who consistently ignore the international events
and vital questions about our national survival, to concentrate on
complete nonsense, Could it be that they're the repub disinformation
corps, here to jump up and down and scream "look at me! look at me!"
In other words: Don't look at the economy. Don't look at health
care. Don't look at the fact that we're a subsidiary of the world's
oil sheiks.
What kind of citizen is that disloyal to his own country and his
own people?

Transition Zone

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:06:36 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 22, 5:29 pm, freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 10:39 am, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "freeisbest" <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b85ed0a1-0d35-48ad...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
>
> > > On Dec 14, 12:11 pm, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in message
> > >>news:t0%Um.149778$mn3....@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com
>
> > >  > > hey both did the same thing with the same number of women, yet
> > >  > > one is exalted and one villified.
>
> > >  > Clinton is not exalted and Woods is not villified. Move on.
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----------

> > >      It'd nice if he could move on, but he's admitting that he can't.
> > > Gossip about Clinton is the closest he'll ever get to having a sex
> > > life of his own.
>
> > LOL
>
>  > I suspect that is the case with all of these imbeciles who are
>  > still obsessed with where Clinton put his penis.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------

>      Are they really, do you think?  OK, for many of them,
> Clintonmania is just the wallowing-in-stupid-gossip that's the best
> many rightwingers can do.  They don't have a clue about acting like an
> adult citizen.

No. They know how. They just hate paying their fair share. So they
try tricks to
stop others from paying taxes, etc.

>     But at the same time there's something familiar and Rovian about
> repub dingleberries who consistently ignore the international events
> and vital questions about our national survival, to concentrate on
> complete nonsense,  

Yes. According to them, it all results in less taxes paid, more
foreign lands to be colonized
for raw materials (like Afghan and Iraq and almost Iran).

> Could it be that they're the repub disinformation corps,

What else?

> here to jump up and down and scream "look at me! look at me!"
>     In other words:  Don't look at the economy.  Don't look at health
> care.  Don't look at the fact that we're a subsidiary of the world's
> oil sheiks.

No, because that would discourage colonization of Afghan/Iraq/Iran and
it would
mean paying more taxes, more regulation, etc.

>     What kind of citizen is that disloyal to his own country and his
> own people?

Those more loyal to the blue chip crowd. That's all.

Lamont Cranston

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<* US *> wrote in message
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> Was it for the golden showers?

I heard it was the hot lunches.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot%20lunch

Patriot Games

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:38:34 PM12/23/09
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YOU would know.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

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> San Francisco is the greatest city in the country.

*us*

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:14:58 -0800, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@Shadow.com> wrote:

Makes sense for the buddypal of "Turd Blossom" ...

*us*

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<AntiP...@HateAmerica.Com> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:14:58 -0800, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@Shadow.com> wrote:
>><* US *> wrote in message news:7992j5h5qrlp0eqdq...@4ax.com
>>> Was it for the golden showers?
>>I heard it was the hot lunches.
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot%20lunch
>

>...would know.....
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

No surprise you can still type with your mouth full.

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