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Harry Hope

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Oct 17, 2008, 12:32:36 PM10/17/08
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http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-its-already-stolen/#more-2118

ROLLING STONE: It's Already Stolen

Investigation by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast released today


Don’t worry about Mickey Mouse or ACORN stealing the election.

According to an investigative report out today in Rolling Stone
magazine, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast, after a year-long
investigation, reveal a systematic program of "GOP vote tampering" on
a massive scale.


- Republican Secretaries of State of swing-state Colorado have quietly
purged one in six names from their voter rolls.

Over several months, the GOP politicos in Colorado stonewalled every
attempt by Rolling Stone to get an answer to the massive purge - ten
times the average state's rate of removal.


- While Obama dreams of riding to the White House on a wave of new
voters, more then 2.7 million have had their registrations REJECTED
under new procedures signed into law by George Bush.

Kennedy, a voting rights lawyer, charges this is a resurgence of 'Jim
Crow' tactics to wrongly block Black and Hispanic voters.


- A fired US prosecutor levels new charges - accusing leaders of his
own party, Republicans, with criminal acts in an attempt to block
legal voters as "fraudulent."


- Digging through government records, the Kennedy-Palast team
discovered that, in 2004, a GOP scheme called "caging” ultimately took
away the rights of 1.1 million voters.

The Rolling Stone duo predict that, this November 4, it will be far
worse.


There's more:


- Since the last presidential race, "States used dubious 'list
management' rules to scrub at least 10 million voters from their
rolls."

Among those was Paul Maez of Las Vegas, New Mexico - a victim of an
unreported but devastating purge of voters in that state that left as
many as one in nine Democrats without a vote.

For Maez, the state's purging his registration was particularly
shocking - he's the county elections supervisor.

The Kennedy-Palast revelations go far beyond the sum of questionably
purged voters recently reported by the New York Times.

"Republican operatives - the party's elite commandos of bare-knuckle
politics," report Kennedy and Palast, under the cover of fighting
fraudulent voting, are "systematically disenfranchis[ing] Democrats."

The investigators level a deadly serious charge:

"If Democrats are to win the 2008 election, they must not simply beat
McCain at the polls - they must beat him by a margin that exceeds the
level of GOP vote tampering."

_________________________________________________________

Harry

firefly

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Oct 17, 2008, 12:48:49 PM10/17/08
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YES, JUST FORGET ABOUT THE MILLION-PLUS VOTER FRAUD BY THE HEINOUS AND
WICKED MOBSTER DEMOCRATS.

---firefly


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leona...@gmail.com

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Oct 18, 2008, 12:30:51 PM10/18/08
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On Oct 17, 6:35 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@southslope.net> wrote:
> "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in messagenews:mg3Kk.5671$YU2....@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...

>
> >> ROLLING STONE: It's Already Stolen
>
> >> Investigation by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast released today
>
> >> Don't worry about Mickey Mouse or ACORN stealing the election.
>
> >> According to an investigative report out today in Rolling Stone
> >> magazine, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast, after a year-long
> >> investigation, reveal a systematic program of "GOP vote tampering" on
> >> a massive scale.
>
> If someone as impartial and non partisan as Bobby Kennedy Jr. said
> it, it must be true.

** ROFLMAO

AnAmericanCitizen

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Oct 19, 2008, 5:17:43 PM10/19/08
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The democrats attempt to take the spotlight off of ACORN. The L.A. Times had an
article about some voters who claim they signed a petition and their party was
changed from Democrat to Republican.....they didn't know what they were signing?
Well, not a surprise I guess. Incidentally, they can still go to the polls and vote
for whatever party they wish....this is just another red herring....AAC

CharlesTheCurmudgeon

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Oct 19, 2008, 5:22:55 PM10/19/08
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"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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That's a laugh. In order for McCain to win, he's going to have to overcome
the millions of fake ACORN voters.

So RFK Jr is a pseudohippie just like his dad.

Charles the Curmudgeon


V for Vendicar

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Oct 19, 2008, 5:34:59 PM10/19/08
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"CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5...@comcast.net> wrote

> That's a laugh. In order for McCain to win, he's going to have to
> overcome the millions of fake ACORN voters.

Who found the illegitimate registrations? ACORN.

How many are there? Less than 2% of the resistrations collected.

Are the registrations checked again by a government agency? Yes.

Is registration voting? No.

Once registered are you restricted in who you can vote for? No.

So what are the RepubliKKKunts whining about?

NOTHING.

Miles

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Oct 19, 2008, 7:19:11 PM10/19/08
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V for Vendicar wrote:
> "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5...@comcast.net> wrote
>> That's a laugh. In order for McCain to win, he's going to have to
>> overcome the millions of fake ACORN voters.
>
> Who found the illegitimate registrations? ACORN.


That isn't true at all. There are at least 14 law suits in multiple
states against ACORN. They were were found by state, not ACORN officials.

> How many are there? Less than 2% of the resistrations collected.

This makes what ACORN has done now and over the years acceptable just how?

>
> Are the registrations checked again by a government agency? Yes.
>
> Is registration voting? No.
>
> Once registered are you restricted in who you can vote for? No.
>
> So what are the RepubliKKKunts whining about?
>
> NOTHING.

Unbelievable that you seem to suggest what ACORN has done to be
acceptable and just 'NOTHING'. Good grief.

CharlesTheCurmudgeon

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Oct 19, 2008, 7:31:19 PM10/19/08
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"Miles" <no...@nopers.com> wrote in message
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V for Vendicar is a Liberal jackass from Canada who should be plonked, so I
ignore his lying, liberal ass and his lying liberal answers. But I repeat
myself. To be a liberal is to be a liar.

BTW here is Obama's real song:

So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or Ill lay your soul to waste
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game


Charles the Curmudgeon


V for Vendicar

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Oct 20, 2008, 12:34:51 AM10/20/08
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"CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5...@comcast.net> wrote

> V for Vendicar is a Liberal jackass from Canada who should be plonked, so
> I ignore his lying, liberal ass and his lying liberal answers. But I
> repeat myself. To be a liberal is to be a liar.

Who found the illegitimate registrations? ACORN.

How many are there? Less than 2% of the resistrations collected.

Are the registrations checked again by a government agency? Yes.

Miles

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Oct 20, 2008, 10:07:59 PM10/20/08
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V for Vendicar wrote:
> "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5...@comcast.net> wrote
>> V for Vendicar is a Liberal jackass from Canada who should be plonked, so
>> I ignore his lying, liberal ass and his lying liberal answers. But I
>> repeat myself. To be a liberal is to be a liar.
>
>
> Who found the illegitimate registrations? ACORN.

Wrong, only in one published case. There are at least 15 law suits
against ACORN in multiple states. All through state investigations.

Mani Deli

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Oct 24, 2008, 12:38:06 AM10/24/08
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Vote for who is stupider. McCain or Palin!
Difficult, but Palin.


McCain is a cleverer crook, Palin is pretty transparent in the crook
and lie department, small time. Palin is a template for really stupid
American women. She has a lot of Barbie doll dunce appeal. McCain is a
lobbyist's pet, was crooked from his start, a Bush parrot and more
experienced at repeating brazen lies. But remember he was stupid
enough to pick Palin. He is desperate for the lowlife vote which he
needs to pull it off.

What's funny about it is that the lowlife is so dumb that they can
easily be convinced to vote for exactly for those who continually
screw them, like the dumber plumber.

Clave

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Oct 24, 2008, 12:45:09 AM10/24/08
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"Mani Deli" <not...@inter.com> wrote in message
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> Vote for who is stupider. McCain or Palin!

I vote you.

Jorge Duhbya Arbusto, POTUS (Retired)

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Oct 24, 2008, 9:08:55 PM10/24/08
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Moose Mama's definitely the dumbass of this duo.


Clairbear

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Oct 24, 2008, 11:46:59 PM10/24/08
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Mani Deli <not...@inter.com> wrote in
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> Vote for who is stupider. McCain or Palin!


I would say the the person phrasing the question Might be the Dumber one
here as STUPIDER is not an actual english word.

As far as the dumbest person on the campaign trail this tear Olgd Joe
Biden is sure doing his best to hide his intellect with his recent stages.
Any reasonable person would realize that you can't be stone stupid and get
as far as Obama, McCain, Palin and Biden without some degree of
intelligence.
They sure are far smarter than those who would call them stupid or ask who
the "STUPIDER" one is.

Mani Deli

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Nov 5, 2008, 11:07:01 AM11/5/08
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The only reason Obama won was because of the financial crisis. This
saved us from fascism for the moment.

What happened was that the average American bimbo was hit in the
wallet and he realized that he had been screwed so he got off his duff
and went out and voted contrary to his inclination.

Added to this a lot of young people didn't want to fight in idiotic
wars.

What has to be done is to restore the Constitution with a repeal the
fascist laws that are now in place. Failure to do so will guarantee a
return of the fascists in the near future.

Anyone who earns less than $60,000 and voted Republican, voted to
screw himself.

Mani Deli

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Nov 5, 2008, 11:35:21 AM11/5/08
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November 4, 2008
Editorial
So Little Time, So Much Damage

While Americans eagerly vote for the next president, here’s a sobering
reminder: As of Tuesday, George W. Bush still has 77 days left in the
White House — and he’s not wasting a minute.

President Bush’s aides have been scrambling to change rules and
regulations on the environment, civil liberties and abortion rights,
among others — few for the good. Most presidents put on a last-minute
policy stamp, but in Mr. Bush’s case it is more like a wrecking ball.
We fear it could take months, or years, for the next president to
identify and then undo all of the damage.

Here is a look — by no means comprehensive — at some of Mr. Bush’s
recent parting gifts and those we fear are yet to come.

CIVIL LIBERTIES We don’t know all of the ways that the administration
has violated Americans’ rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Last
month, Attorney General Michael Mukasey rushed out new guidelines for
the F.B.I. that permit agents to use chillingly intrusive techniques
to collect information on Americans even where there is no evidence of
wrongdoing.

Agents will be allowed to use informants to infiltrate lawful groups,
engage in prolonged physical surveillance and lie about their identity
while questioning a subject’s neighbors, relatives, co-workers and
friends. The changes also give the F.B.I. — which has a long history
of spying on civil rights groups and others — expanded latitude to use
these techniques on people identified by racial, ethnic and religious
background.

The administration showed further disdain for Americans’ privacy
rights and for Congress’s power by making clear that it will ignore a
provision in the legislation that established the Department of
Homeland Security. The law requires the department’s privacy officer
to account annually for any activity that could affect Americans’
privacy — and clearly stipulates that the report cannot be edited by
any other officials at the department or the White House.

The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel has now released a
memo asserting that the law “does not prohibit” officials from
homeland security or the White House from reviewing the report. The
memo then argues that since the law allows the officials to review the
report, it would be unconstitutional to stop them from changing it.
George Orwell couldn’t have done better.

THE ENVIRONMENT The administration has been especially busy weakening
regulations that promote clean air and clean water and protect
endangered species.

Mr. Bush, or more to the point, Vice President Dick Cheney, came to
office determined to dismantle Bill Clinton’s environmental legacy,
undo decades of environmental law and keep their friends in industry
happy. They have had less success than we feared, but only because of
the determined opposition of environmental groups, courageous members
of Congress and protests from citizens. But the White House keeps
trying.

Mr. Bush’s secretary of the interior, Dirk Kempthorne, has recently
carved out significant exceptions to regulations requiring expert
scientific review of any federal project that might harm endangered or
threatened species (one consequence will be to relieve the agency of
the need to assess the impact of global warming on at-risk species).
The department also is rushing to remove the gray wolf from the
endangered species list — again. The wolves were re-listed after a
federal judge ruled the government had not lived up to its own
recovery plan.

In coming weeks, we expect the Environmental Protection Agency to
issue a final rule that would weaken a program created by the Clean
Air Act, which requires utilities to install modern pollution controls
when they upgrade their plants to produce more power. The agency is
also expected to issue a final rule that would make it easier for
coal-fired power plants to locate near national parks in defiance of
longstanding Congressional mandates to protect air quality in areas of
special natural or recreational value.

Interior also is awaiting E.P.A.’s concurrence on a proposal that
would make it easier for mining companies to dump toxic mine wastes in
valleys and streams.

And while no rules changes are at issue, the interior department also
has been rushing to open up millions of acres of pristine federal land
to oil and gas exploration. We fear that, in coming weeks, Mr.
Kempthorne will open up even more acreage to the commercial
development of oil shale, a hugely expensive and environmentally risky
process that even the oil companies seem in no hurry to begin. He
should not.

ABORTION RIGHTS Soon after the election, Michael Leavitt, the
secretary of health and human services, is expected to issue new
regulations aimed at further limiting women’s access to abortion,
contraceptives and information about their reproductive health care
options.

Existing law allows doctors and nurses to refuse to participate in an
abortion. These changes would extend the so-called right to refuse to
a wide range of health care workers and activities including abortion
referrals, unbiased counseling and provision of birth control pills or
emergency contraception, even for rape victims.

The administration has taken other disturbing steps in recent weeks.
In late September, the I.R.S. restored tax breaks for banks that take
big losses on bad loans inherited through acquisitions. Now we learn
that JPMorgan Chase and others are planning to use their bailout funds
for mergers and acquisitions, transactions that will be greatly
enhanced by the new tax subsidy.

One last-minute change Mr. Bush won’t be making: He apparently has
decided not to shut down the prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — the most
shameful symbol of his administration’s disdain for the rule of law.

Mr. Bush has said it should be closed, and his secretary of state,
Condoleezza Rice, and his secretary of defense, Robert Gates, pushed
for it. Proposals were prepared, including a plan for sending the real
bad guys to other countries for trial. But Mr. Cheney objected, and
the president has refused even to review the memos. He will hand this
mess off to his successor.

We suppose there is some good news in all of this. While Mr. Bush
leaves office on Jan. 20, 2009, he has only until Nov. 20 to issue
“economically significant” rule changes and until Dec. 20 to issue
other changes. Anything after that is merely a draft and can be easily
withdrawn by the next president.

Unfortunately, the White House is well aware of those deadlines.

Mani Deli

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Blackwater

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Nov 5, 2008, 2:03:54 PM11/5/08
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:56:21 -0500, Mani Deli <not...@inter.com>
wrote:

>The only reason Obama won was because of the financial crisis.

I want an investigation into whether the Democrats
ENGINEERED this 'crisis' to coincide with the election !

Ralph

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Nov 5, 2008, 3:10:25 PM11/5/08
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Mani Deli <not...@inter.com> wrote:

> The only reason Obama won was because of the financial crisis. This
> saved us from fascism for the moment.

Idiot Americans elected one of the main people who caused it!!
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1894/freddyobamayu6.jpg
That tiny url at 2:44 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfGWxqsKFmY

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Bob

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Nov 5, 2008, 7:02:08 PM11/5/08
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"DK" <d...@no.email.thankstospam.net> wrote in message
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> In article <r0k3h4h8go6941fin...@4ax.com>, Mani Deli
> <not...@inter.com> wrote:

>>Anyone who earns less than $60,000 and voted Republican, voted to
>>screw himself.
>

> Absolutely.

Short term thinking.


Stray Dog

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Nov 5, 2008, 10:39:43 PM11/5/08
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, DK wrote:

> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:42:59 GMT
> From: DK <d...@no.email.thankstospam.net>
> Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.liberalism,
> alt.politics.economics, alt.politics.usa
> Subject: Re: Obama won was because of the financial crisis


>
> In article <r0k3h4h8go6941fin...@4ax.com>, Mani Deli <not...@inter.com> wrote:

>> The only reason Obama won was because of the financial crisis.
>

> Not the only reason but without it Obama would most likely have lost.


>
>> This saved us from fascism for the moment.
>

> That's a relief!


>
>> What has to be done is to restore the Constitution with a repeal the
>> fascist laws that are now in place.
>

> Lets hope Obama is not wholly owned by the corrupt political
> establishment and is up to the task...


>
>> Failure to do so will guarantee a return of the fascists in the near future.
>

> Yep.


>
>> Anyone who earns less than $60,000 and voted Republican, voted to
>> screw himself.
>

> Absolutely.
>
> DK
>

I'm actually surprised that so many voters could rise up against the
strong vein of right-wing racism that runs in this country.


nys999

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b...@barrk.net (Blackwater) wrote in news:4911ede1.26931218
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Michele, that you????

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Mani Deli

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The only reason Obama won was because of the financial crisis. This

saved us from fascism for the moment.

What happened was that the average American bimbo was hit in the


wallet and he realized that he had been screwed so he got off his duff
and went out and voted contrary to his inclination.

Added to this a lot of young people didn't want to fight in idiotic
wars.

What has to be done is to restore the Constitution with a repeal of
the fascist laws that are now in place. Failure to do so will


guarantee a return of the fascists in the near future.

Anyone who earns less than $60,000 and voted Republican, voted to
screw himself.

kim

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Nov 6, 2008, 1:02:41 PM11/6/08
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You claim to be a Libertarian but you've got W so far up your butt
that you wreak of chimp.

The dumbass started a war to make his oil buddies rich, avenge for the
assassination attempt on his old man, and try to stimulate a crappy
economy he brought on himself. Only problem is this endeavor is much
like any he has attempted in life, a failure. No plans for the
execution of the war and no exit plan is where we are today. The
trillion that he printed out to finance the war busted the value of
the dollar by 50%. The legislation he signed in allowed banks to make
120% loans on speculative homes. And here we are.

kim

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Nov 6, 2008, 1:05:47 PM11/6/08
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:35:20 GMT, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK)
wrote:

>Look at the data and there is little room for a surprise. Facts:
>
>1. Popular vote was still VERY close.
>2. Blacks voted for Obama exclusively based on skin color,
>something like 98:2. Latinos vote for Obama was something
>like 75:25, also a clear case of minority voting against majority.
>3. The economic meltdown screwed up Republican base -
>middle class/working class whites - disproportionally. (In
>relative terms, they lost more than poor and very rich did).
>That prompted some of these whites to vote something
>- anyhting - different.
>
>The net result of #2 + # 3 = #1 with a narrow Obama win
>thanks to the disciplined campaigning and McCain's stupidity
>in picking up an airhead bimbo as a running mate.
>
>DK

five million difference is not close... That's 10% if you look at it
from the point of view of how much each guy got. How much would each
guy have to do to get 5 million more votes?

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kim

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