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c...@yahoo.com

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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Recently I have been reading the postings of one Lewis Dent (RE: The
Truth About Israel). At first I read his postings for a laugh but now
I wonder?

By his postings in is clear that the man is a White Supremist and an
unrepentive racist. He has a hatred of all people of colour and of
the Hebrew faith. He believes the White Nordic people whom he
incorrectly identifies as Aryans are the true displaced tribes of
Israel and the true inheriters of Abahams legacy from God. He
preaches that any who are not Aryans are mud people and should be
enslaved and governed by Whites.

Now these ideas are nothing new, and to be perfectly honest such ideas
of racial superiourity are universal. Almost every race or crede have
a small minority who believe they are superiour to all others.

Now most of us who read these postings realize not only how silly they
sound but also the person posting is a small minded bigot best to be
ignored or ridiculed. However what about those who are still in the
developmental stage of their thinking? I am of course speaking about
the youth of the world.

The question I ask, is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Does
society (worldwide society at that) have the right to censor people
like Dent? Does Dent have the right to print his views and ideas or
is he abusing a privilage?

Should people like Dent be allowed a forum as public as the internet
and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to his way
of thinking?

So is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Views please.

rockdog

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Recently I have been reading the postings of one Lewis Dent (RE: The
> Truth About Israel). At first I read his postings for a laugh but now
> I wonder?
>
> By his postings in is clear that the man is a White Supremist and an
> unrepentive racist. He has a hatred of all people of colour and of
> the Hebrew faith. He believes the White Nordic people whom he
> incorrectly identifies as Aryans are the true displaced tribes of
> Israel and the true inheriters of Abahams legacy from God. He
> preaches that any who are not Aryans are mud people and should be
> enslaved and governed by Whites.
>
> Now these ideas are nothing new, and to be perfectly honest such ideas
> of racial superiourity are universal. Almost every race or crede have
> a small minority who believe they are superiour to all others.

Quite true! To the Jews all non-jews are goyim - cattle - animals...
They are God's Chosen People. That sounds racist, to me.
If a black person does not believe in mixing with whites,
( and there are plenty ) it is called black pride.
If a white person does not believe in mixing with blacks,
it is called racism. Wat up wid dat?


>
> Now most of us who read these postings realize not only how silly they
> sound but also the person posting is a small minded bigot best to be
> ignored or ridiculed. However what about those who are still in the
> developmental stage of their thinking? I am of course speaking about
> the youth of the world.

Oh pleeeaaase! The children. I am soooooo fucking tired of our
RIGHTS and MONEY being taken away by social engineers who use
that line. Worry about your own kids. Leave other peoples'
children alone.


>
> The question I ask, is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage?

You have got to be kidding. Have you ever read the Constitution?

Does
> society (worldwide society at that)

I do not give a fuck about " worldwide society "!
I live in America.

have the right to censor people
> like Dent? Does Dent have the right to print his views and ideas or
> is he abusing a privilage?

In America, we have GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, not politically
granted privileges.


>
> Should people like Dent be allowed a forum as public as the internet
> and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to his way
> of thinking?

As opposed to YOU being " allowed a forum as public as the internet
and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to YOUR way
of thinking? "??? Get real.

> So is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Views please.

What country do you live in???
And before the name calling starts...
My genetic material does not qualify me to be
considered as Aryan. I am American.

Mr. Horrible

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Recently I have been reading the postings of one Lewis Dent (RE: The
> Truth About Israel). At first I read his postings for a laugh but now
> I wonder?
>
> By his postings in is clear that the man is a White Supremist and an
> unrepentive racist. He has a hatred of all people of colour and of
> the Hebrew faith. He believes the White Nordic people whom he
> incorrectly identifies as Aryans are the true displaced tribes of
> Israel and the true inheriters of Abahams legacy from God. He
> preaches that any who are not Aryans are mud people and should be
> enslaved and governed by Whites.
>
> Now these ideas are nothing new, and to be perfectly honest such ideas
> of racial superiourity are universal. Almost every race or crede have
> a small minority who believe they are superiour to all others.
>
> Now most of us who read these postings realize not only how silly they
> sound but also the person posting is a small minded bigot best to be
> ignored or ridiculed. However what about those who are still in the
> developmental stage of their thinking? I am of course speaking about
> the youth of the world.
>
> The question I ask, is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Does
> society (worldwide society at that) have the right to censor people

> like Dent? Does Dent have the right to print his views and ideas or
> is he abusing a privilage?
>
> Should people like Dent be allowed a forum as public as the internet
> and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to his way
> of thinking?
>
> So is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Views please.

If you want it to be a privelege, they might censor YOU. So I'd advise
that you make it a right.

Mr. H

Drpsionic

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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>The question I ask, is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Does
>society (worldwide society at that) have the right to censor people
>like Dent? Does Dent have the right to print his views and ideas or
>is he abusing a privilage?
>
>Should people like Dent be allowed a forum as public as the internet
>and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to his way
>of thinking?

As far as the United States Constitution is concerned that right (political
speech) is about as absolute as it gets. As far as the rest of the world is
concerned, it's a first world right backed by a first world military and
economic superpower so it doesn't mean didly what they think.


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c...@yahoo.com

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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On 12 Mar 1999 18:36:20 GMT, drps...@aol.com (Drpsionic) wrote:

>>The question I ask, is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Does
>>society (worldwide society at that) have the right to censor people
>>like Dent? Does Dent have the right to print his views and ideas or
>>is he abusing a privilage?
>>
>>Should people like Dent be allowed a forum as public as the internet
>>and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to his way
>>of thinking?
>
>As far as the United States Constitution is concerned that right (political
>speech) is about as absolute as it gets. As far as the rest of the world is
>concerned, it's a first world right backed by a first world military and
>economic superpower so it doesn't mean didly what they think.

Ah the old might makes right arguement, the same one used by the
Romans of old and my ancesters the English in the 19th century. But
look at where both of those are now, something to consider for the
future.

c...@yahoo.com

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:23:16 -0600, rockdog <pc...@iname.com> wrote:

>
>
>c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> Recently I have been reading the postings of one Lewis Dent (RE: The
>> Truth About Israel). At first I read his postings for a laugh but now
>> I wonder?
>>
>> By his postings in is clear that the man is a White Supremist and an
>> unrepentive racist. He has a hatred of all people of colour and of
>> the Hebrew faith. He believes the White Nordic people whom he
>> incorrectly identifies as Aryans are the true displaced tribes of
>> Israel and the true inheriters of Abahams legacy from God. He
>> preaches that any who are not Aryans are mud people and should be
>> enslaved and governed by Whites.
>>
>> Now these ideas are nothing new, and to be perfectly honest such ideas
>> of racial superiourity are universal. Almost every race or crede have
>> a small minority who believe they are superiour to all others.
>

>Quite true! To the Jews all non-jews are goyim - cattle - animals...
>They are God's Chosen People. That sounds racist, to me.
>If a black person does not believe in mixing with whites,
>( and there are plenty ) it is called black pride.
>If a white person does not believe in mixing with blacks,
>it is called racism. Wat up wid dat?

As I said before, racism is universal and crosses all ethnic religious
barriers. However, I have yet to see any posting here in this
newsgroup from black power people or Jewish freedom fighter or even
Left Handed Scottish Bagpipe Tuners

>> Now most of us who read these postings realize not only how silly they
>> sound but also the person posting is a small minded bigot best to be
>> ignored or ridiculed. However what about those who are still in the
>> developmental stage of their thinking? I am of course speaking about
>> the youth of the world.
>

>Oh pleeeaaase! The children. I am soooooo fucking tired of our
>RIGHTS and MONEY being taken away by social engineers who use
>that line. Worry about your own kids. Leave other peoples'
>children alone.

I do worry about my childred, (more on that later) and I worry about
my nieces and nephews. I worry about all those of weak minds looking
for a scapegoat to blame their troubles on.

>> The question I ask, is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage?
>

>You have got to be kidding. Have you ever read the Constitution?

Yes, an interesting document which stated all men are created equal
and have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. The paradox
being that it was written in the main by rich white slaveholders. And
those rights were not extended to blacks, natives or women until they
took to the streets and fought for them. Some would say that the
fight continues to this day.

> Does
>> society (worldwide society at that)
>

>I do not give a fuck about " worldwide society "!
>I live in America.

Ah, but by it's very nature the internet is worldwide. It may of
started off in the US but now belongs to the world.

>have the right to censor people
>> like Dent? Does Dent have the right to print his views and ideas or
>> is he abusing a privilage?
>

>In America, we have GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, not politically
>granted privileges.

Whos and which god? The God of the old testiment? The God of the
Muslim? The God of the Catholic? The God of the Baptist? The God of
First Nations? Even among Christianity there is little concenus
about God, each sect claims to have the only true word, so which to
choose from?

>> Should people like Dent be allowed a forum as public as the internet
>> and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to his way
>> of thinking?
>

>As opposed to YOU being " allowed a forum as public as the internet
>and newsgroups to publish his views and recruit new members to YOUR way
>of thinking? "??? Get real.

That is the question, censorship is a double-edged sword. Basically
it boils down to which has the greater right, the individual or
society as a whole.

>> So is Freedom of Speech a right or a privilage? Views please.
>
>What country do you live in???

Canada actually.

>And before the name calling starts...
>My genetic material does not qualify me to be
>considered as Aryan. I am American.

Where as I am the Aryan ideal, over 6 foot tall, blonde hair and blue
eyed. However my children are another matter, their mother being
Chinese. I am British by birth, Canadian by citizenship and Global at
heart.


rockdog

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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> As I said before, racism is universal and crosses all ethnic religious
> barriers. However, I have yet to see any posting here in this
> newsgroup from black power people or Jewish freedom fighter or even
> Left Handed Scottish Bagpipe Tuners

How about the postings I find offensive:
Extremist left-wing Socialist
Clintonista butt lickers
One World Wackos
Collectivists who practice extortion
Compassionate liberals who spew more hatred than Hitler
They disgust me, BUT, if they want to make butt heads out of
themselves, it is their RIGHT.


> I do worry about my childred, (more on that later) and I worry about
> my nieces and nephews.

What has that got to do with censorship?
It is up to YOU to protect your children and nieces and nephews.
Do you home school them??? Or do you turn them over to the
government indoctrination gulags to be molded into brain
dead robots? Do you them to be individual thinkers or
members of the collective?

I worry about all those of weak minds looking
> for a scapegoat to blame their troubles on.

Oh... you mean Socialists ... Collectivists ...


> Yes, an interesting document

Perhaps the greatest form of government EVER created.
Why do you think the US is the greatest nation in the world?
It is because of the freedoms granted to the people, in that document.
It is not because of our diversity.

which stated all men are created equal
> and have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. The paradox
> being that it was written in the main by rich white slaveholders.

Lame and boring. You act like this country existed in a vacuum.
Slavery was practiced all over the world, for all of history,
by all colors and groups of people.


> those rights were not extended to blacks, natives or women until they
> took to the streets and fought for them. Some would say that the
> fight continues to this day.

It was people of white european blood that put and end to slavery.
If it was ONLY the blacks and women that " took to the streets "
guess what??? Their freedom would not have happened. White men
died for their freedom!

> Ah, but by it's very nature the internet is worldwide. It may of
> started off in the US but now belongs to the world.

BULLSHIT!!! Again I say fuck the rest of the world.
I'm sure that in many countries they do a fine job
of censorship. Not here. Not now. Not ever.

> Whos and which god? The God of the old testiment? The God of the
> Muslim? The God of the Catholic? The God of the Baptist? The God of
> First Nations? Even among Christianity there is little concenus
> about God, each sect claims to have the only true word, so which to
> choose from?

All of them. The idea is something greater than man granted
We The People certain rights. Greater than the state.
Greater than the Collectivists Socialists Elite.
What God has granted let no man take away.



> That is the question, censorship is a double-edged sword. Basically
> it boils down to which has the greater right, the individual or
> society as a whole.

You hit the nail on the head. Our Constitution grants that right
to the INDIVIDUAL.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bill and Hillary use that " society as a hole "
bullshit crap. It makes me want to puke.

> >What country do you live in???
>
> Canada actually.

My condolences.

AtlMdx31

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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>How about the postings I find offensive:

This looks like fun, let's all play!

>Extremist left-wing Socialist

Extremist right-wing moralist

>Clintonista butt lickers

Ditto-head ass kissers

>One World Wackos

Xenophobic paranoids

>Compassionate liberals who spew more hatred than Hitler

"Compassionate" conservatives who spew more hatred than liberals

>They disgust me, BUT, if they want to make butt heads out of
>themselves, it is their RIGHT.
>

I agree with you there.

[remainder of post deleted as redundant to the above]


Nick Monitto
AtlM...@aol.com
President and GM, NetHL West division Mighty Cows of SouthPark

rockdog

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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AtlMdx31, aka. Nick the Dick, after masturbating while looking at


pictures of Al the Whore Gore and Bill Herpes Clintoon wrote:
>
> >How about the postings I find offensive:
>
> This looks like fun, let's all play!

Did you wipe the KY from your fingers?


>
> >Extremist left-wing Socialist
>
> Extremist right-wing moralist
>
> >Clintonista butt lickers
>
> Ditto-head ass kissers
>
> >One World Wackos
>
> Xenophobic paranoids
>
> >Compassionate liberals who spew more hatred than Hitler
>
> "Compassionate" conservatives who spew more hatred than liberals
>
> >They disgust me, BUT, if they want to make butt heads out of
> >themselves, it is their RIGHT.
> >
>
> I agree with you there.

Fuck you.


>
> [remainder of post deleted as redundant to the above]

[meaning: Nick the Dick is a ignorant asshole Socialist]
>
> Nick The Dick Monitto[little]

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