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Fresh from Iraq, Marine sees the USA going the way of Rome

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Oct 30, 2006, 10:47:45 PM10/30/06
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Hoy Paloy wrote:

From: [Name Withheld]

I have two tattoos on my arms. On one arm: the mark of the Roman
Legion, SPQR and on the other, the flag raising on Iwo Jima.

While in Iraq, I often wondered if the Romans of the imperial times
felt like they were fighting for nothing other than the wealth of a
privileged elite and the glory of an emperor. Did they feel that their
sacrifices were in vain? Or was the war booty enough to offset such
sentiment?

I began to look at that "SPQR" in another light.

SPQR is Latin for "Senatus Populusque Romanus," or "for the Senate and
People of Rome."

Thousands of Romans died for the idea of the Roman republic and the
people that made it. Later, they died for the empire that arose as the
Republic weakened.

Toward the end of the Western Roman Empire, there were more foreigners
in the legions than Romans. The actual Romans were often poor having
been replaced by slaves from the very lands they had conquered.

Recently, I looked at my tattoos and wondered, "How long until the
sacrifices made by these men raising the flag in Iraq and Afghanistan
are as useless as those made by the Romans legions?"

As the American worker is increasingly replaced by outsourcing, H1-B
visas, and illegal immigration, as the culture shifts to resemble the
jumbled mess of the refugees that overwhelm our lands, and as whole
sections of our country are seemingly annexed by invaders, it may not
be long until we go the way of the Romans... and for the same reasons.

Looking at the poor retention in all four branches of our military and
the dwindling recruiting numbers, many of us are beginning to
understand what is really going on in the United States.

[Name Withheld] lives in Maryland.
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By coincidence, this morning while driving in an
illegal-alien-infested Southern California city -- which, admittedly, t
this point could quite literally mean ANYWHERE in the state -- I began
thinking about the famous Gracchi brothers of ancient Rome.

Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus were two borthers born of acclaimed
ancestors (one of whom, Scipio, years earlier had defeated the North
African general Hannibal and thus put an end to Carthage's covetous
designs on Rome's own territories) and noble birth who were absolutely
appalled that Roman citizens -- in particular, Roman soldiers returning
from the imperial adventures they'd been ordered to risk their lives in
by the empire's elites -- were living in poverty because the Roman
elites had REPLACED THEM WITH FOREIGN SLAVES WORKING FOR A PITTANCE
(sound familiar?)

Indeed, the elite landowners' foreign (i.e. non-Roman) slaves were
literally living BETTER on the elites' landholdings than the Roman
soldiers who'd lived lives of grueling hardship for years as they were
sent to do the same elites' imperialistic bidding all over the known
(to the Romans) world of the time.

Today we see much the SAME kind of atrocity occurring in the United
States. Hopefully many of the heads-up-their-asses U.S. citizens who
are now oblivious to the NIGHTMARE of what is NOW GOING ON, the utter
INJUSTICE that is being perpetrated by 30+ million LAW-FLOUTING FOREIGN
INVADERS -- people who in just the past 3 years have killed THIRTY
THOUSAND AMERICANS on U.S. soil compared the the +/- 2600 U.S. troops
killed in Iraq -- will finally wake up.

The fact is that our state, local and federal governments are riddled
with EVIL PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF POWER.

We cannot rely on a new Tiberius or Gaius Gracchus to "rescue" us.
Indeed, like so many populists in history, both of the Gracchi bothers
themselves were ultimately killed by the rich elites who couldn't bear
the thought of giving up their foreign slaves and doing right by the
Roman soldiers the best years of whose lives they'd taken before
unceremoniously spitting these authentic Romans' out like so much used
chewing gum. WE CAN RELY OF NO ONE BUT OURSELVES TO DO WHAT HAS TO BE
DONE TO OBTAIN JUSTICE AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE MONIED ELITES
WHO WOULD SOONER SELL THEIR MOTHERS DOWN THE RIVER THAN FOLLOW THE LAW
AND HIRE LEGAL WORKERS WHEN AN ARMY OF EAGERLY UNDERBIDDING FOREIGN
PEASANTS WILL GLADLY WORK FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THE GOING WAGE RATES
IN MEXICO, GUATEMALA OR EL SALVADOR.

Jerry Okamura

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Oct 31, 2006, 12:15:54 PM10/31/06
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<mentat...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hoy Paloy wrote:

>
> As the American worker is increasingly replaced by outsourcing, H1-B
> visas, and illegal immigration, as the culture shifts to resemble the
> jumbled mess of the refugees that overwhelm our lands, and as whole
> sections of our country are seemingly annexed by invaders, it may not
> be long until we go the way of the Romans... and for the same reasons.

This country is made up of people from all over the place.


>
> Looking at the poor retention in all four branches of our military and
> the dwindling recruiting numbers, many of us are beginning to
> understand what is really going on in the United States.
>

Draft anyone?


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