Pfizer closing R&D
Beam Me Up Scotty
Pfizer will close Research and development Labs...
Looks like they see the coming of Obama/Pelosi health care. Your health
care will be the loser for that one, but the immediate loss will be more
jobs lost. The entire Health care industry that will be hurt by Obama
care will begin to bail and fire workers and close any unique services
and products operations since government won't be buying any cutting
edge medical care for you.
I had stock in Pfizer years ago and I'm sure glad I am out of that.
They will be killed by Obama care. Any health care company will be
trashed by Obama care.
Obama is destroying our last world class industry, the government has
destroyed our Manufacturing and our natural resource, mining and every
other income generating industry. This is the Government destruction of
the health care industry, our final successful income producing industry.
What will the GDP be when Government runs the health care? GDP will NOT
rise with government health care. This is the government allowing Old
Glory to die and refusing to allow the country to continue to live.
Pfizer is shrinking in the face of Government health care, not expanding
and the GDP will shrink not expand.
Mason C
<Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>Pfizer will close Research and development Labs...
This is only a restructuring.
>
>Looks like they see the coming of Obama/Pelosi health care. Your health
>care will be the loser for that one, but the immediate loss will be more
>jobs lost. The entire Health care industry that will be hurt by Obama
>care will begin to bail and fire workers and close any unique services
>and products operations since government won't be buying any cutting
>edge medical care for you.
>
>I had stock in Pfizer years ago and I'm sure glad I am out of that.
>They will be killed by Obama care. Any health care company will be
>trashed by Obama care.
They will no doubt profit from the extension of insured health care
to 40,000,000 more people.
More interesting to this economics group might be:
quote
Pfizer executives receive bonuses for Wyeth acquisition
By Star-Ledger Wire Services
October 28, 2009, 4:09PM
Pfizer makes pay out to executives who carried out the drug maker's acquisition
of Wyeth.
Pfizer makes pay out to executives who carried out the drug maker's acquisition
of Wyeth.o top executives lucrative
cash and stock bonuses for their roles in executing the recently completed $67.3
billion acquisition of Wyeth, the company said today.
Chief Financial Officer Frank D'Amelio will receive a $1.2 million award and Ian
Read, group president of Pfizer's biopharmaceutical business, will receive $1
million, the drugmaker said in a U.S. securities filing.
The compensation committee of the board of directors "determined that these
executives, in addition to carrying out their normal, ongoing responsibilities,
devoted extraordinary efforts and made extraordinary contributions in addressing
critical components of the transaction," Pfizer said.
unquote
>
>Obama is destroying our last world class industry, the government has
>destroyed our Manufacturing and our natural resource, mining and every
>other income generating industry. This is the Government destruction of
>the health care industry, our final successful income producing industry.
>
>What will the GDP be when Government runs the health care? GDP will NOT
>rise with government health care. This is the government allowing Old
>Glory to die and refusing to allow the country to continue to live.
>Pfizer is shrinking in the face of Government health care, not expanding
>and the GDP will shrink not expand.
>
Nonsense. Another display of the low intelligence of Republicans.
ZerkonXXXX
> Obama is destroying our last world class industry
... the others destroyed by...?
BDR529
This is typical scaremongering which has nothing to do with the facts
about health care.
Q
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:51:23 +0100, BDR529 <jake> wrote:
>
>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>> Pfizer will close Research and development Labs...
>
"The company will move a number of functions from Collegeville, Pa.;
Pearl River, N.Y.; and St. Louis to other locations and will discontinue
R&D operations in Princeton, N.J.; Chazy, Rouses Point and Plattsburgh,
N.Y.; Sanford and Research Triangle Park, N.C.; and Gosport,
Slough/Taplow, U.K. In addition, *Pfizer* will consolidate R&D functions
from its New London, Conn., site to its nearby research facility in
Groton, Conn."
"When the *Pfizer-Wyeth* deal was announced earlier this year, Pfizer
said it would cut about 15% of the combined companies’ work-force — just
under 20,000 jobs. That figure included 8,000 jobs that Pfizer had
already said it planned to cut."
"Now that the *Merck* merger with Schering-Plough is done, when can we
expect details on the company’s plans to cut some 16,000 jobs? Not in
the next few days, Merck’s CEO told Dow Jones Newswires today"
" *J&J executives* are discussing the company’s plan to cut 6% to 7% of
its global workforce. Here’s what they’re saying.
The company will take a charge of $1.1 billion to $1.3 billion in the
fourth quarter of this year. The cuts will save an estimated $1.4 to
$1.7 billion a year once they’re fully implemented."
" *Eli Lilly* recently said it plans to cut its workforce to 35,000 by
the end of 2011. But a detail in Lilly’s latest earnings announcement
shows that the company has actually been moving in the opposite
direction this year: The number of worldwide employees rose to 40,800 as
of Sept. 30, up from 40,450 at the end of 2008."
*Looks like you are long on mouth and short on FACTS, typical Liberal*
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:51:23 +0100, BDR529 <jake> wrote:
>
>>> Pfizer will close Research and development Labs...
>
That means Lilly will continue to add jobs in those markets, even as it
cuts jobs in the U.S. and other developed markets. *The number of*
*cuts* *will* *be greater* *than the number of new jobs* , Taylor said,
meaning overall headcount will fall. Beyond that, the company hasn’t
given out any details about where the cuts will land."
*Looks like you are long on mouth and short on FACTS, typical Liberal*
--
BDR529
mots, plusieurs mots et des mots de plus, mais quel est l'intérêt?
Q
Dänk 1010011010
dog.com> wrote:
> Pfizer will close Research and development Labs...
>
> Looks like they see the coming of Obama/Pelosi health care. Your health
> care will be the loser for that one, but the immediate loss will be more
> jobs lost. The entire Health care industry that will be hurt by Obama
> care will begin to bail and fire workers and close any unique services
> and products operations since government won't be buying any cutting
> edge medical care for you.
>
> I had stock in Pfizer years ago and I'm sure glad I am out of that.
> They will be killed by Obama care. Any health care company will be
> trashed by Obama care.
There was an article in today's Wall Street Journal which mentioned
Pfizer. Several years ago the Supreme Court heard a case called Kelo
vs. City of New London, where it ruled that eminent domain could be
used to seize private property for private development.
The plaintiffs in the case were the private homeowners who had their
homes seized, and the defendant was the city of New London which
argued that the new private development would bring in higher tax
revenues, and enhance property values throughout the city.
After the SC ruled in the city's favor, the seized homes were
bulldozed in anticipation of this fabulous new business/housing
complex. The anchor for the planned development was a Pfizer R&D lab,
which has now been canceled. The once thriving neighborhood is now a
giant empty lot, of no benefit to anyone.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Another reason I will never again buy any Pfizer stock, they want to
step on my personal property rights.
I don't buy their products either.
I'm ticked at the USSC for allowing it
--
Peter Franks
Do you know what the legal basis for the supreme Court /even/
entertaining this case is? In my reading of the constitution, there
isn't any federal provision for legislating/ruling intrastate eminent
domain...
Josh Rosenbluth
The 5th amendment prohibits the public taking of private property
without just compensation (and applies to the states through 14th
Amendment incorporation).
Josh Rosenbluth
Peter Franks
Incorporated through /what/ clause?
Peter Franks
Incorporated through /which/ clause?
Josh Rosenbluth
> Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 7:39 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
According to SCOTUS, due process. But if you prefer, prvileges and
immunites.
Josh Rosenbluth
Peter Franks
> On Nov 19, 9:16 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>>> On Nov 19, 7:39 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
So, which part of DP or PI erases "for public use"?
Josh
Neither. What's your point?
Josh Rosenbluth
Peter Franks
Amendment V applies to the taking for public use. The Pfizer case
wasn't about public use, therefore the supreme Court had no jurisdiction.
Peter Franks
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:50:51 -0500, Josh
> <us...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>> So, which part of DP or PI erases "for public use"?
>> Neither. What's your point?
>
That's funny coming from someone that can't keep a pseudonym for more
than 20 minutes.
Seems to me that /you/ are the troll, my good friend.
Josh
> Josh wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you know what the legal basis for the supreme Court /even/
>>>>>>> entertaining this case is? In my reading of the constitution, there
>>>>>>> isn't any federal provision for legislating/ruling intrastate
>>>>>>> eminent
>>>>>>> domain...
>>>>>> The 5th amendment prohibits the public taking of private property
>>>>>> without just compensation (and applies to the states through 14th
>>>>>> Amendment incorporation).
>>>>> Incorporated through /which/ clause?
>>>>
>>>> According to SCOTUS, due process. But if you prefer, prvileges and
>>>> immunites.
>>>
>>> So, which part of DP or PI erases "for public use"?
>>
>> Neither. What's your point?
>
> Amendment V applies to the taking for public use. The Pfizer case
> wasn't about public use, therefore the supreme Court had no jurisdiction.
The 14th's due process clause by itself (with no reference to the 5th)
forbids the deprivation of property without due process. It is arguable
(and I am persuaded) that a taking by the government for other than
public use presumptively violates due process.
Josh Rosenbluth
Peter Franks
That's not arguable at all.
Either they were afforded due process, or they weren't. The reason is
irrelevant.
Betelgeuse
> On Nov 10, 1:25 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
>
>
> No, Pfizer is acquiring Wyeth, another drug maker, and so
> consolidating R&D facilities. I'm surprised you, the big soapbox
> proponent of capitalism, don't know companies often close facilities
> and lay off people after a merger or an aquisition.
That's only because he's an agenda driven right wing pinhead, not a
capitalist.
The pretend capitalists ideologues like him are a dime a dozen around
here and they demonstrate why they aren't capitalists with every post
like the egg he just laid here. The Limbaugh loving Bush worshipers
think that because they listen to Rush and vote Republican, that it
somehow bestows knowledge of capitalism on them without effort.
They seem to enjoy making asses out of themselves by exposing their
own ignorance.
Josh Rosenbluth
I'm referring to the substantive component of due process that SCOTUS
has adopted. Namely, "due process" can be denied based solely on the
content of the law itself (no regard to a judicial process).
Yes, I suspect you reject this reasoning. But you asked which clause
incorporates the Fifth. According to SCOTUS, it is the substantive
component of due process. So, if we accept what SCOTUS says about
incorporation, then we must also accept the substantive component of
due process.
But instead let's reject SCOTUS precedent about incorpoartion. In
this case, the privileges and immunites clause of the 14th can be used
on its own (no reference to the 5th) as the basis for hearing this
case. That is, it might be the case that one of the privileges and
immunites of citizenship is not have property taken for private use.
Josh Rosenbluth
Beam Me Up Scotty
> "erschroedin...@gmail.com" <erschroedin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 1:25 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
>>
>>
>> No, Pfizer is acquiring Wyeth, another drug maker, and so
>> consolidating R&D facilities. I'm surprised you, the big soapbox
>> proponent of capitalism, don't know companies often close facilities
>> and lay off people after a merger or an aquisition.
>
> That's only because he's an agenda driven right wing pinhead, not a
> capitalist.
Not quite.... I don't blame them for cutting American workers and
assets. just the opposite, it is Obama(the Democrats) that are creating
an environment that is toxic to business.
I am an environmentalist and I fight for the Capitalist environment. To
keep it clean from the pollution of socialist man.
> The pretend capitalists ideologues like him are a dime a dozen around
> here and they demonstrate why they aren't capitalists with every post
And you anti capitalist are special and wise and omnipotent... we know.
Just like Obama you know what's best for everyone and you intend to see
they are forced into it whether they like it or NOT.
> like the egg he just laid here. The Limbaugh loving Bush worshipers
> think that because they listen to Rush and vote Republican, that it
> somehow bestows knowledge of capitalism on them without effort.
Socialists like you, are economic morons, if you understood economics
you could see it for your self and you wouldn't be a socialist.
> They seem to enjoy making asses out of themselves by exposing their
> own ignorance.
You're the ones that voted for the *Harvard Village Idiot* Obama has no
clue about economics and he is the leader of the Socialist. You all know
from the top one down that economics is useless in Socialism and you
ignore the entire subject and "read your little red Mao book" through
the economics course instead of listening to the professor.
I M @ good guy
I wish I could offer a contradiction to your opinion,
but in the real world outside DC, wall street, and the
budgeted institutions, there is almost no money
circulating, and the amount of money circulating
is the life blood of any free economy.
Somethings got to give, the direction must
change, the present course appears headed into
unknown territory.
erschro...@gmail.com
dog.com> wrote:
> Betelgeuse wrote:
> > "erschroedin...@gmail.com" <erschroedin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 10, 1:25 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
>
> >> No, Pfizer is acquiring Wyeth, another drug maker, and so
> >> consolidating R&D facilities. I'm surprised you, the big soapbox
> >> proponent of capitalism, don't know companies often close facilities
> >> and lay off people after a merger or an aquisition.
>
> > That's only because he's an agenda driven right wing pinhead, not a
> > capitalist.
>
> Not quite.... I don't blame them for cutting American workers and
> assets. just the opposite, it is Obama(the Democrats) that are creating
> an environment that is toxic to business.
>
> I am an environmentalist and I fight for the Capitalist environment. To
> keep it clean from the pollution of socialist man.
Just not the national socialist, right, Mein Herr?
>
> > The pretend capitalists ideologues like him are a dime a dozen around
> > here and they demonstrate why they aren't capitalists with every post
>
> And you anti capitalist are special and wise and omnipotent... we know.
>
> Just like Obama you know what's best for everyone and you intend to see
> they are forced into it whether they like it or NOT.
Like, oh, the Iraq war
>
> > like the egg he just laid here. The Limbaugh loving Bush worshipers
> > think that because they listen to Rush and vote Republican, that it
> > somehow bestows knowledge of capitalism on them without effort.
>
> Socialists like you, are economic morons, if you understood economics
> you could see it for your self and you wouldn't be a socialist.
>
> > They seem to enjoy making asses out of themselves by exposing their
> > own ignorance.
>
> You're the ones that voted for the *Harvard Village Idiot* Obama has no
> clue about economics and he is the leader of the Socialist.
So what did Bush know about economics?
>You all know
> from the top one down that economics is useless in Socialism and you
> ignore the entire subject and "read your little red Mao book" through
> the economics course instead of listening to the professor.
Uh, communism is not socialism. Not surprised at you, however, as
you'd even consider laws banning slavery anti-capitalist and socialist.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Good call
>
>
> Somethings got to give, the direction must
> change, the present course appears headed into
> unknown territory.
It may be unknown to some, but Socialism is a "top down" economy with
the government calling the shots. Does it look familiar now that you
have been told that?
--
Peter Franks
P&I /must/ apply to 5. The /protected/ privileges and immunities of the
citizens of the United States are explicit.
Josh
>> this case, the privileges and immunities clause of the 14th can be used
>> on its own (no reference to the 5th) as the basis for hearing this
>> case. That is, it might be the case that one of the privileges and
>
> P&I /must/ apply to 5. The /protected/ privileges and immunities of the
> citizens of the United States are explicit.
No, they are not. There is nothing in the text that says what the
protected P&I's are.
Josh Rosenbluth
Peter Franks
Yes, they are. Re-read Amendment X.
Josh
We've been here before. The 10th only says that which isn't delegated
is left to the states. The prohibition on the states to not abridge
Privileges and Immunities are delegated. The scope of the delegated
"privileges and immunities" has nothing at all to do with the 10th.
Josh Rosenbluth