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[O'Reilly Factor] It looks like Obamacare is already descending into chaos

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Ubiquitous

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Apr 10, 2013, 5:47:46 AM4/10/13
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Devastating new jobs report out today says that if the same number of
Americans were looking for work right now, as were looking for jobs in
2009, the unemployment rate would be about 11 percent.


There's no question that after trillions of taxpayer dollars have been
poured into the private marketplace by the Obama administration, job
growth remains awful. So why is that? The main culprit could be
Obamacare which became a law in 2010 with the goal of providing health
insurance to every American. The problem is that somebody has to pay for
that, and business is the primary target.

In my case, for example, my corporate health insurance premiums for the
corporations that I run have tripled since Obamacare was passed. So
millions of small business owners like me and large corporations as well
are not hiring as many people because healthcare expenses are rising so
quickly. It's that simple. Hiring is stunted because of federal
healthcare mandates. Are we all getting this?

Now some specifics, writing in "Time" magazine liberal guy Joe Klein
scolding the Obama administration for not setting up promised health
insurance exchanges for small businesses. In fact, 33 states can't meet
Obamacare requirements in that area. The result? Chaos.

But here is something even worse. The Factor has learned that the Health
and Human Services agency may order the states to hire hundreds of
thousands of so-called Obamacare navigators at salaries that could
average more than $60,000 a year. In California alone; 21,000 navigators
are estimated to be needed. And what do these people do? Well, they
simply advise other Americans about how to deal with the outrageously
complicated Obamacare law.

According to the "Washington Post," some of these navigators are likely
to come from unions as well as immigrant service and community service
organizations. But here is the reality. Nobody will actually know what
the navigators do because there is no objective way to measure advice.
The navigators may be paid hourly with senior executives making up to
$48 bucks an hour, at least that's the federal estimate.

But again, what do these people actually do? This has the potential to
be an enormous ruse, another colossal waste of taxpayer money.

Nancy Pelosi can't explain Obamacare and some navigator in San Diego is
going to figure it out? To say that Obamacare is off to a bad start is
the understatement of the century.

And that's "The Memo."

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relevant today. But you won't hear the press say that."
-- Bill O'Reilly


John H. Gohde

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Apr 10, 2013, 6:02:19 AM4/10/13
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YOU cannot blame moi. I did NOT vote for Obama Salama ...

cloud dreamer

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Apr 10, 2013, 7:47:38 AM4/10/13
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Yes, we can. You voted for a Republican whose only goal is to disrupt
anything Obama does even if it destroys the lives of millions.

BTW, the crap above is crap. Notice the lack of a cite.

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Jeff Strickland

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Apr 10, 2013, 11:04:29 AM4/10/13
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"cloud dreamer" <reduce...@recycle.com> wrote in message
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Lack of cite? Really? O'Reilly cited his own experience stating that his
costs have risen dramatically. He cites labor statistics that say if
Americans that have stopped looking for work were still in the job market,
the unemployment rate would be higher. He cites the Washington Post for how
many "navigators" will be needed, and how it will be impossible to know if
the navigators are really doing anything beyond collecting a paycheck.

What do you need to see?! The Memo segment is not "hard reporting," it is
O'Reilly's opinion of what is happening. You can debate that his opinion is
correct or not, but you have a very hard time telling us that his personal
experience is inaccurate. As for citation, he gives several -- at least one
for each point he makes.

That's the memo...



Dano

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Apr 10, 2013, 12:11:43 PM4/10/13
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"John H. Gohde" wrote in message
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YOU cannot blame moi. I did NOT vote for Obama Salama ...

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No one did you fucking moron bigot.

Jeff Strickland

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Apr 10, 2013, 12:30:52 PM4/10/13
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That was an intelligent and well thought out retort. Good one...



John H. Gohde

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Apr 10, 2013, 1:29:51 PM4/10/13
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On Apr 10, 12:11 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "John H. Gohde"  wrote in messagenews:0a71b927-add1-4968...@d8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
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> YOU cannot blame moi.  I did NOT vote for Obama Salama ...
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> No one did you fucking moron bigot.


The best defense is a good offence. :)

Mason Barge

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Apr 10, 2013, 1:36:56 PM4/10/13
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I see he's back up to his old persona. I'm sure he's a very nice guy
in RL but he doesn't take much trouble to defend his positions in
r.a.t.

Jeff Strickland

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Apr 10, 2013, 3:06:21 PM4/10/13
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"John H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Or OFFENSE.


John H. Gohde

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Apr 10, 2013, 3:53:09 PM4/10/13
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Ditto!

Dano

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Apr 10, 2013, 4:08:42 PM4/10/13
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"Mason Barge" wrote in message
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Defend WHAT position exactly? No one by the name of Obama Salama
exists...ran for ANY office...and so, was never elected to anything.

Defending the freedom to be stupid are you? You choose the company of
mental midgets and bigots...good luck to you. And Strickland.

Dano

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Apr 10, 2013, 4:09:24 PM4/10/13
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"John H. Gohde" wrote in message
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Another genius heard from.

trotsky

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Apr 10, 2013, 4:15:12 PM4/10/13
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I'm laughing too! As if someone can ever hope to reach the intelligence
and well thoughtoutedness of "Obama Salama"!


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Never post something on the internet unless you have a point of
reference. You will look like a moron otherwise.

John H. Gohde

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Apr 10, 2013, 7:28:22 PM4/10/13
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On Apr 10, 4:15 pm, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
> On 4/10/13 11:30 AM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
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Impeachment should be in the cards for Obama. As far as I am concern,
you can but both Bushs and Obama in prison, as far as I care. All
three of them have more than earned it. Just call it the end result
of Chicago Politics.

What the Obama Administration has done to this country is
unfathomable.

cloud dreamer

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Apr 10, 2013, 7:44:18 PM4/10/13
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Like attempt to give people access to essential health care?

Like pull the country up out of a recession that was only months short
of descending into Depression?

Like promote the green energy industry before China and India became the
dominant players?

I could go on and on.

You just let yourself be blinded by ideology to the point that it
affects your common sense.

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suzeeq

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Apr 10, 2013, 8:13:30 PM4/10/13
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You're right, I can't see what he's done to this country. So I can't
fathom it...

cloud dreamer

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Apr 10, 2013, 8:30:29 PM4/10/13
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Maybe you should open your eyes.

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cloud dreamer

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Apr 10, 2013, 8:39:28 PM4/10/13
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BTR1701

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Apr 10, 2013, 9:25:48 PM4/10/13
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In article <kk42r2$3p5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
How is he a bigot for calling Obama a silly name?

Were the people who called Bush names also bigots? Or is this another
one of those raaaaciiiist things that only works one way?

Peter Franks

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Apr 10, 2013, 9:25:30 PM4/10/13
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On 4/10/2013 4:44 PM, cloud dreamer wrote:
>> What the Obama Administration has done to this country is
>> unfathomable.
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> Like attempt to give people access to essential health care?

Lol. People have always had access to essential health care.

All that Obama and the dim wit crew did was force me to pay for your
care. How about you pay for your own care?!

> Like pull the country up out of a recession that was only months short
> of descending into Depression?

Lol. Things have only gotten worse, not better.

> Like promote the green energy industry before China and India became the
> dominant players?

That work /very/ well. Threw money after what? Oh yeah, bankruptcy
after bankruptcy.

Obama has been nothing but bad news for this country.

trotsky

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Apr 11, 2013, 7:42:22 AM4/11/13
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On 4/10/13 8:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <kk42r2$3p5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>> "John H. Gohde" wrote in message
>> news:0a71b927-add1-4968...@d8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
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>> YOU cannot blame moi. I did NOT vote for Obama Salama ...
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>> No one did you fucking moron bigot.
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> How is he a bigot for calling Obama a silly name?


Good point. As long as we're in agreement that he's a moron--kudos.

trotsky

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Apr 11, 2013, 7:59:40 AM4/11/13
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There seems to be a problem with semantics here: "done to" and "done
for" this country are two different things.

trotsky

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Apr 11, 2013, 8:16:28 AM4/11/13
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On 4/10/13 6:28 PM, John H. Gohde wrote:
> On Apr 10, 4:15 pm, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
>> On 4/10/13 11:30 AM, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>>> "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:kk42r2$3p5$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> "John H. Gohde" wrote in message
>>>> news:0a71b927-add1-4968...@d8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
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>>>> YOU cannot blame moi. I did NOT vote for Obama Salama ...
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>>>> No one did you fucking moron bigot.
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>>> That was an intelligent and well thought out retort. Good one...
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>> I'm laughing too! As if someone can ever hope to reach the intelligence
>> and well thoughtoutedness of "Obama Salama"!
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>> Never post something on the internet unless you have a point of
>> reference. You will look like a moron otherwise.
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Idiot alert.

Bill Steele

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Apr 11, 2013, 1:07:46 PM4/11/13
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In article <U4OdnR3YspAxOPvM...@mchsi.com>,
Both are slogans. "has done" is history, to be evaluated.

Bill Steele

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Apr 11, 2013, 1:09:14 PM4/11/13
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In article <kk4d2g$ka4$1...@dont-email.me>,
It would help if a lot of people got off the fence.

John H. Gohde

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Apr 11, 2013, 7:01:30 PM4/11/13
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On Apr 10, 9:25 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:

> Obama has been nothing but bad news for this country.


Ditto!
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