Which do we hate more, Government health care or Congress?
Beam Me Up Scotty
The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings of
Congress.
Ouroboros Rex
> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings of
> Congress.
The usual crazyassed lies.
Beam Me Up Scotty
NEG POS
Congress 27.0 64.3 -37.3
Health care 21.0 43.0 -22.0
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Ouroboros Rex
Willie Gort
Judging by the polling reports, Americans hate Republicans more than
Democrats or health care reform.
What's it like being in the minority party of 19% with no platform, no
leader and no direction but down? Why hasn't Limbaugh or palin saved
you yet?
Rightist pseudo-capitalist boobs broke America and then like the
cowards you are, bailed, ran away and now obstruct efforts to put
things back together again.
Go away Fascist, you had your chance and you blew it. You no longer
matter.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Nov 23, 3:13 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
> dog.com> wrote:
>> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings of
>> Congress.
>
> Judging by the polling reports, Americans hate Republicans more than
> Democrats or health care reform.
>
Dunno but that might well be.
> What's it like being in the minority party of 19% with no platform, no
> leader and no direction but down? Why hasn't Limbaugh or palin saved
> you yet?
>
Not sure since I'm not a "Republican"
> Rightist pseudo-capitalist boobs broke America and then like the
> cowards you are, bailed, ran away and now obstruct efforts to put
> things back together again.
I am a Capitalist and a Constitutionalist.
> Go away Fascist, you had your chance and you blew it. You no longer
> matter.
Funny since it was Progressives that created the *affordable-housing*
Ponzi scheme that caused this crash. And it's Obama that keeps pushing
the unemployment lower.
After 1 year of Socialism, people are wise to the Socialist ideas of
micromanaging our lives and no jobs, like Europe's economy.
Cold Lazarus
>
>
Pseudo Capitalist Right Wing Extremist America Haters in Big Trouble.
[I hope you enjoy this as much as I did]
Widely Detested RepubliNazi Party Tanking In Polls - No Hope, No Change For Them
In 2010 - All They Have Left Are More Lies and Fake Polls By Rasumussen (a self
confessed radical right wing America hater)
WASHINGTON (AP) With Sen. Arlen Specter's switch to the Democrats, the
Republican Party is increasingly at risk of being viewed as a mostly Southern
and solidly conservative party, an identity that might take years to overcome.
Specter's move, which rocked Congress and the political world Tuesday, is the
latest blow to Republicans, especially in the Northeast, once a GOP
stronghold. The region's Republicans now have been reduced to a scant presence
in the House and a dwindling influence in the Senate.
But Specter's defection has symbolic and immediate ramifications for the GOP
nationwide. It makes it easier for Democrats, fairly or not, to paint the
party as ideologically rigid and alien to large swaths of the country.
Olympia Snowe of Maine, one of the Senate's few remaining moderate
Republicans, called Specter's decision another sign that her party must move
toward the center.
"Ultimately, we're heading to having the smallest political tent in history,"
Snowe said. "If the Republican Party fully intends to become a majority party
in the future, it must move from the far right back toward the middle."
But Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky was defiant.
"I do not accept that we are going to be a regional party," he said. "We're
working very hard to compete throughout the country."
Specter's departure follows recent Republican losses in once-reliable states.
While Barack Obama was cruising to the White House last fall, Republicans were
losing long-held Senate seats in Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico, North Carolina
and Virginia. A moderate Republican lost his seat in Oregon, and the same
seems likely to happen when Minnesota's long recount is settled.
In the House, Republicans have suffered deep losses in the last two elections,
especially in the Northeast. Last week, Democrat Scott Murphy won a special
election in a heavily Republican congressional district in upstate New York.
Murphy will be sworn in Wednesday, giving Democrats' 256 House seats to 178
for Republicans with one vacancy.
The congressional Republicans' base is shrinking, leaving them with
strongholds only in the South and parts of the mountain West.
With the departure of each centrist, including Pennsylvania's Specter, the
party also appears more firmly right-of-center. Polls show most Americans
nearer the political center, and Democratic leaders were happy Tuesday to
promote the GOP's image as narrow-minded.
"This is now officially a Republican Party where moderates need not apply,"
said Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
Specter made similar remarks. "The Republican Party has moved farther and
farther to the right," he said, adding to the trend with his switch.
Specter accused party leaders of abandoning moderate Republicans in tough
races, saying, "there ought to be an uprising."
In the 1970s, '80s and early '90s, the nation's political realignment favored
the GOP. Voters in many of the 11 former Confederate states ousted Democrats
by the dozens, no longer accepting the old odd-bedfellows alliance of Southern
conservatives and more dominant Northern liberals.
With the Northeast still home to many "Rockefeller Republicans" ? centrists in
the mold of former New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller ? the realignment pinched
Democrats hard.
In recent years, however, the tide has reversed. Moderate-to-liberal voters in
the Northeast and Pacific West felt increasingly at odds with the national
Republican Party, and they began electing more Democrats to local and federal
posts. Obama won surprising victories in Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana,
though it's far from clear that Democrats can hold those states.
The result is a shrinking and increasingly right-leaning GOP, throughout the
nation and in Congress. There, moderate Republicans are almost an endangered
species. While lonely, they may play pivotal roles in brokering legislative
deals, especially in the Senate.
Snowe and her Republican colleague from Maine, Susan M. Collins, now are the
Senate's most prominent GOP moderates.
Collins said she was "very, very disappointed and surprised" by Specter's
defection. "It's something I would never do," she said, but she called on her
party to be more inclusive.
"The Republican Party has been most successful when it has adopted the big
tent approach that was favored by Ronald Reagan, by Gerald Ford" and others,
Collins said.
Obama hailed Specter's switch, but its blessing may prove mixed. The president
vowed a more bipartisan era in Washington, and the loss of another GOP
centrist will make Congress more partisan than before.
Republican leaders, meanwhile, faced an uphill battle in next year's
Pennsylvania Senate race even before Specter made the switch. In that sense,
they probably have lost little. Besides, only 15 years ago some pundits
predicted permanent minority status for Democrats, following their huge losses
in the 1994 elections.
Political fortunes can change rapidly, and unexpectedly. But for now,
Republicans hold distinct minority status in the House and Senate, where
Democrats and independents hold 59 seats to 40 for the GOP. They confront a
popular Democratic president, and they face numerous ill-timed retirements in
next year's Senate races.
Tuesday was another bad day in a political season that some Republicans must
feel cannot possibly get worse.
Peter Franks
>
>
> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings of
> Congress.
Hate is a charged word, so I'll decline from using it, but:
what do you dislike more: socialism or socialists?
I'd say socialists, as socialism without socialist compulsion quickly dies.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Nov 23, 3:13 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
> dog.com> wrote:
>> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings of
>> Congress.
>
> Judging by the polling reports, Americans hate Republicans more than
> Democrats or health care reform.
>
Dunno but that might well be.
> What's it like being in the minority party of 19% with no platform, no
> leader and no direction but down? Why hasn't Limbaugh or palin saved
> you yet?
>
Not sure since I'm not a "Republican"
> Rightist pseudo-capitalist boobs broke America and then like the
> cowards you are, bailed, ran away and now obstruct efforts to put
> things back together again.
I am a Capitalist and a Constitutionalist.
> Go away Fascist, you had your chance and you blew it. You no longer
> matter.
Funny since it was Progressives that created the *affordable-housing*
Ponzi scheme that caused this crash. And it's Obama that keeps making
the unemployment worse.
After 1 year of Socialism, people are wise to the Socialist ideas of
micromanaging our lives and no jobs, like Europe's economy.
--
Michael Coburn
> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings of
> Congress.
The only thing lower then Congressional Democrats is _STILL_
Congressional Republicans in the RCP average. And more people say they
would vote for Democratic representatives. And with the constant and
heavy media blitz the Republican lying pigs and the Insurance companies
have been spewing trying to defeat health care reform, that is a truly
amazing number. Most of the dissatisfaction with Democrats comes from
the leftmost members of their side of the political spectrum. The
rightards are "enthused" because they feel the moonbats will all stay
home whining about how non-progressive Obama has been.
--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
Michael Coburn
"How the Clinton CRA and Fannie Mae caused the European Housing Bubble"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_frm/
thread/1315d44bb94d73eb/63de9449b0672f29?lnk=gst&q=caused+the+housing
+bubble#63de9449b0672f29
Michael Coburn
> Sure you dumb fuck
>
> Because they haven't done what they were sent to DC to do
>
> Health care
>
> The War
>
> and punishment of Cheney/Bush
And here's the answer:
Strabo
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:43:06 -0800, Peter Franks
> <no...@none.com> wrote:
>
>> what do you dislike more: socialism or socialists?
>
>
> You're confused in definitions, FrankeLoon
>
> You haven't a scintilla of evidence that the federal
> govenrment, congress, and the American people are
> trying to consolidate the means of production into
> government and share power with everyone to make
> decisions about it.
>
Actually each State has a congress otherwise known as a
legislature.
Get to know yours. The federal congress may not survive.
Ouroboros Rex
>> On Nov 23, 3:13 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty
>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n- dog.com> wrote:
>>> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings
>>> of Congress.
>>
>> Judging by the polling reports, Americans hate Republicans more than
>> Democrats or health care reform.
>>
>
> Dunno but that might well be.
>
>> What's it like being in the minority party of 19% with no platform,
>> no leader and no direction but down? Why hasn't Limbaugh or palin
>> saved you yet?
>>
>
> Not sure since I'm not a "Republican"
>
>
>> Rightist pseudo-capitalist boobs broke America and then like the
>> cowards you are, bailed, ran away and now obstruct efforts to put
>> things back together again.
>
> I am a Capitalist and a Constitutionalist.
You are a worthless liar.
Ouroboros Rex
>> On Nov 23, 3:13 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty
>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n- dog.com> wrote:
>>> The only ratings lower than Government health care, is the ratings
>>> of Congress.
>>
>> Judging by the polling reports, Americans hate Republicans more than
>> Democrats or health care reform.
>>
>
> Dunno but that might well be.
>
>> What's it like being in the minority party of 19% with no platform,
>> no leader and no direction but down? Why hasn't Limbaugh or palin
>> saved you yet?
>>
>
> Not sure since I'm not a "Republican"
>
>
>> Rightist pseudo-capitalist boobs broke America and then like the
>> cowards you are, bailed, ran away and now obstruct efforts to put
>> things back together again.
>
> I am a Capitalist and a Constitutionalist.
You are a worthless liar.
Jerry Okamura
"Ouroboros Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message
news:heevs...@news7.newsguy.com...
The qeustion was who do you hate more. Your response was unsubstantiated
facts. Then you proceeded to tell us what the facts were. Your facts,
confirmed the first part of the question, the approval rating of congress,
but you did not come up with data to show the approval rating of healthcare.
So, who is sprading "bullshit" as you call it.
Jerry Okamura
<s...@above.com> wrote in message
news:djrmg5ld9f89ktfc5...@4ax.com...
> tin-hat.
>
Why do you have to know WHY? The data speaks for itself, the American
people don't think our Congress is doing a very good job, and the people
don't thing much of this healthcare reform proposal.
Ouroboros Rex
> convicted felon conservative?
"Dumb" comes to mind. =)
Beam Me Up Scotty
--
Yup
Dumb built a palatial mansion in your head - there was plenty of empty
space. =D
Beam Me Up Scotty
>
> Figures
Was that too high over your 2nd grade education for you to understand? I
can do 4th grade 12th or even college, do you like street smart flames
(I can do that too) I don't do Liberal flames, they are like a
Tourette's seizure.
--
Peter Franks
Well, I've got it on very good word that the Constitution will 'hang by
a thread', but will not fail.
Peter Franks
Why?
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:45 -0800, Peter Franks
> <no...@none.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I am a Capitalist and a Constitutionalist.
>>> You are a worthless liar.
>> Why?
>
> intepretation of the constitution as being the only
> valid doctrine.
>
> That's what you tin-hat morons believe
>
You know how stupid you sound.... To start with, the Constitution has a
way of being changed, called amendments.
Why would you need amendment if all you need do is rewrite the meaning
of any section of the constitution you want.
You need not redefine things like health care as a "right" when all you
legitimately need do is amend the constitution.
Your suggestion that you can *change-the-meaning* rather than
*change-the-document* is ignorant since in your world you need no
ability to amend and that would have been a redundant and worthless
addition to the constitution but they put in the ability to amend it,
"you" would just redefine what you want it to mean to anything you want.
You are either stupid or just a LIAR that wants to manipulate the
constitution to your favor and know you can't do it through legitimate
constitutional processes.
I Say you are a Socialist. You need to circumvent the Constitutional
process in order to implement your Socialism.... Because the
constitution as written excludes government forcing us into collectives.
Obama is out to ignore and over run the constitution to trash it and
create government that is NOT constitutional and he nor you can do it
Constitutionally. Obama is violating his oath and should be Impeached.
--
Jerry Okamura
<s...@above.com> wrote in message
news:6keog5lhqhnkaidd0...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:01:04 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
> <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>>> NEG POS
>>>>Congress 27.0 64.3 -37.3
>>>>Health care 21.0 43.0 -22.0
>>>
>>> Ya gotta be smart enough to know WHY---you batless
>>> tin-hat.
>>>
>>
>>Why do you have to know WHY? The data speaks for itself, the American
>>people don't think our Congress is doing a very good job, and the people
>>don't thing much of this healthcare reform proposal.
>
> party in power was put there---changed from the party
> that had power, JerryLoon
What has that got to do with how people feel now?
>
> Now, take this REAL slow
>
> The 2006 general election, the failures of the policies
> of the GOP propelled the Democrats to power. Among the
> various campaigns, the nation was CLEAR---Iraq and
> Health care was FOREMOST
Can you cite some data to support your claim that the reason Obama was
elected was because of Iraq AND healthcare?
>
> The GOP was steamrolled
>
> Between 2006 and 2008---The Demcrats passed 90% of the
> legislation they campaigned on. (see public record)
>
> Betwen 2006 and 2009--The Senate Repubicans filibusterd
> 90% of that House passed legislation---and Bush vetoed
> a few.
>
> That left Congress with "low approval" ratings.
>
> Now JerryLoon---whaddaya think caused those "low
> ratings"----that someone with half a brain couldn't
> figure out?
Who cares? The American people are saying they think they are doing a lousy
job.
Jerry Okamura
<s...@above.com> wrote in message
news:3ieog5l4mjce8b0m9...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:59:03 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
> <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Your facts,
>>confirmed the first part of the question, the approval rating of congress,
>>but you did not come up with data to show the approval rating of
>>healthcare.
>
> JerryLoon?
NO.
>
> Obama made health care reform a MAJOR policy issue
>
> McCain did not
>
> What can you conclude from that?
>
Okay I will bite. All I heard from the guy was that he would CHANGE
things. I do not recall him telling us what kind of CHANGE he meant. But I
could be wrong, so why don't you educate me. Did he say during the
campaign, that he wanted to do what he is trying to do with healthcare
today, when he was running for the office? I am willing to bet that he did
no such thing, it would have been political suicide to tell the American
people what he wanted done in healthcare reform, when he was running for the
office, but again, I could be wrong, so tell me exacly what he said.