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Re: do you think north kroea government do real communism?

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DarkMatter

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Oct 3, 2008, 12:39:38 PM10/3/08
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True communism cannot exist in the real world, at least not until
humans evolve into something more altruistic and this is going to take
a million years. Not anytime soon.

http://www.xanga.com/ethansudman/641899798/why-communism-doesnt-work.html

Jasper

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Oct 4, 2008, 10:49:15 AM10/4/08
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On Aug 20, 5:15 am, "V" <nowhere.com> wrote:
> No country populated by humans can ever be communist,For communism to work
> you need a pliant population of sheeps and cattle or perhaps bees and
> ants...
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> "SixthtySixthSix" <6ixthty6ixth...@ATT.NET> wrote in message
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> > Whether or not North Korea is truly a Communist country can be seen in its
> > society...
> > ...is there a well-to-do class that lords itself over a lower-class?
> > ...is there a rich side of town and a poor side of town?
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> > "communist0412" <sykim.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:cf411cb5-e83d-4ead...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >> do you think north kroea government do real communism?

I think your blanket statement reveals the poverty of your historical
knowledge. There really might have not been a "country" in the sense
of the nation-state (which itself is a creation of humans at the stage
of development into a modern industrial society) which has been
communist. But even bourgeois historians and anthropologists do agree
with the FACT that there have been (primitive) communist societies.
There were also communictic practices in the earlier church of the
period of Paul and co. I want to believe that the human beings in
those societies were in every sense of reality quite distinguishable
from "sheeps (sic) and cattle or perhaps bees and ants..." This I must
say is just food for though you. That is howver if your cerebral jaw
has what it takes to chew on it...I do have my doubts, though.

DarkMatter

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Oct 13, 2008, 10:12:33 PM10/13/08
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On Oct 4, 4:49 pm, Jasper <baba_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think your blanket statement reveals the poverty of your historical
> knowledge. There really might have not been a "country" in the sense
> of the nation-state (which itself is a creation of humans at the stage
> of development into a modern industrial society) which has been
> communist. But even bourgeois historians and anthropologists do agree
> with the FACT that there have been (primitive) communist societies.
> There were also communictic practices in the earlier church of the
> period of Paul and co. I want to believe that the human beings in
> those societies were in every sense of reality quite distinguishable
> from "sheeps (sic) and cattle or perhaps bees and ants..." This I must
> say is just food for though you. That is howver if your cerebral jaw

> has what it takes to chew on it...I do have my doubts, though.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

There may has been primitive communist societies but they lived a
Stone age existence and were very poor. Communism is a system that
looks great on paper, but fails in the real world. Most of the rest of
the world figured that one out about two decades ago, where were you?

The only real communist countries left are places like North Korea
where everyone that isn't part of the government is equal; nobody has
anything. As for bees and ants, it is however interesting that certain
behaviors of insects is the best justification for communisim you can
devise while ignoring other behaviors like the fact that most of them
eat each other, including their own species.

Insects are incapable of showing concern and don't have enough
cognitive power to perceive an abstract concept like "the welfare of
others".

DarkMatter

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Oct 14, 2008, 10:55:26 AM10/14/08
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On Oct 4, 4:49 pm, Jasper <baba_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think your blanket statement reveals the poverty of your historical
> knowledge. There really might have not been a "country" in the sense
> of the nation-state (which itself is a creation of humans at the stage
> of development into a modern industrial society) which has been
> communist. But even bourgeois historians and anthropologists do agree
> with the FACT that there have been (primitive) communist societies.
> There were also communictic practices in the earlier church of the
> period of Paul and co. I want to believe that the human beings in
> those societies were in every sense of reality quite distinguishable
> from "sheeps (sic) and cattle or perhaps bees and ants..." This I must
> say is just food for though you. That is howver if your cerebral jaw

> has what it takes to chew on it...I do have my doubts, though.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

There may has been primitive communist societies but they lived a
Stone age existence and were very poor. Communism is a system that
looks great on paper, but fails in the real world.

The only real communist countries left are places like North Korea

DarkMatter

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Oct 14, 2008, 11:34:12 AM10/14/08
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On Oct 4, 4:49 pm, Jasper <baba_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> But even bourgeois historians and anthropologists do agree
> with the FACT that there have been (primitive) communist societies.

There might have been primitive communist societies but they lived a
Stone age existence and were very poor. Any surpluses they had were
consumed overnight. Communism is a system that looks great on paper,


but fails in the
real world.

About the only real communist countries left are places like North


Korea where everyone that isn't part of the government is equal;
nobody has anything.

> I want to believe that the human beings in


> those societies were in every sense of reality quite distinguishable
> from "sheeps (sic) and cattle or perhaps bees and ants..." This I must
> say is just food for though you. That is howver if your cerebral jaw

> has what it takes to chew on it...I do have my doubts, though.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is interesting that certain behaviors of insects is the best


justification for communisim you can devise while ignoring other
behaviors like the fact that most of them eat each other, including

their own species. You can't anthropomorphize insect behavior. Insects

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