this is only a test (Was - Re: Uhmurikin Gulag Stories)

[Jenn]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
<prac...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> A while back, you pinged Aardie and
> {told, asked, stated}, if he was
> civil, you would be civil. To me, that
> thread did not get any better as

... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.

Eagle knows that it's not sincere.

--
Jenn

[Eagle]

Jenn presented the following explanation :

Once bitten twice shy, Jenn. Being civil is only half of the equation.
I don't expect a long lost buddy reunion, but it would be great to end
the conflict here. I'm sure everyone who has a history of participation
here would like to see an end to the constant H&D, and a return to
political debate, spice included.
Just my 20 bucks worth....

--
Eagle
Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.

[SeaNymph]

That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a mouthpiece
for eagle.

Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to make
more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations without
interference.

[OldGringo38]

there are those who think it necessary to speak for others in order to
insure it is said the way they want. :)

--
OG 38
Just west of nowhere

[Aardvark]

There's a word for that, George, and that word is 'spin'.



--
"I am not made like anyone I have seen; I dare believe I am not made
like anyone in existence. If I am not better, at least I am different."
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

[Eagle]

Aardvark was thinking very hard :

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 10:16:04 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:

>> On 05/24/2013 09:54 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2013 7:06 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
>>>> <prac...@mouse-potato.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if he
>>>>> was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get any
>>>>> better as
>>>>
>>>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>>>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>>>>
>>> That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a mouthpiece
>>> for eagle.
>>>
>>> Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to make
>>> more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations without
>>> interference.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> there are those who think it necessary to speak for others in order to
>> insure it is said the way they want. :)

> There's a word for that, George, and that word is 'spin'.

Is that what YOU believe, Aardvark?

[Eagle]

SeaNymph formulated on Friday :

The only attempt to 'stir the pot' as you put it, is your input here,
SN. Your opinion is just adding fuel to the possible flame.
Is that your intention?

[SeaNymph]

I believe you are correct. Sort of make you wonder who's the puppet.

[Eagle]

After serious thinking OldGringo38 wrote :

How are you today George?
It's been nice here the past couple of days. 82F with a breeze from the
south. It usually blows from the east to west, so the dust and weed
seed is blowing in off the 20 acres behind us, messing up my pool and
spa. I just spent the past 45 minutes or so cleaning my pool so I can
put the thermal cover on the water. That damn thing works better than
that solar water heater I had installed some seven years ago!
Anyway, you know Jenn doesn't try to tell anyone what to say. :D

[Eagle]

SeaNymph wrote this mess :

And this helps solve the H&D here in what way, SN?

[Aardvark]

Of course. There are some here who do it all the time. The most recent
that springs to mind is yesterday when the trolling cunt tried to speak
to me on behalf of the slimy Limey cunt in order to spin what the slimy
Limey cunt had said into some kind of positive light.

[OldGringo38]

On 05/24/2013 10:15 AM, Aardvark wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 10:16:04 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:
>
>> On 05/24/2013 09:54 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2013 7:06 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
>>>> <prac...@mouse-potato.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if he
>>>>> was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get any
>>>>> better as
>>>>
>>>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>>>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>>>>
>>> That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a mouthpiece
>>> for eagle.
>>>
>>> Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to make
>>> more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations without
>>> interference.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> there are those who think it necessary to speak for others in order to
>> insure it is said the way they want. :)
>
> There's a word for that, George, and that word is 'spin'.
>
>
>

LOL :)

[Jenn]

Eagle wrote:
> Jenn presented the following explanation :
>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
>> <prac...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if
>>> he was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get
>>> any better as
>
>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>
>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>
> Once bitten twice shy, Jenn. Being civil is only half of the equation.

He doesn't understand that ...

> I don't expect a long lost buddy reunion, but it would be great to end
> the conflict here. I'm sure everyone who has a history of
> participation here would like to see an end to the constant H&D, and
> a return to political debate, spice included.
> Just my 20 bucks worth....

The H&D won't end as long as they treat you, me, and others with hate.

--
Jenn

[OldGringo38]

Dysfunctional puppets at best. :)

[OldGringo38]

Take your stance to a pro, so you might better understand.

[OldGringo38]

On 05/24/2013 10:53 AM, Eagle wrote:
<Snip the fun stuff>

> you know Jenn doesn't try to tell anyone what to say. :D

If you knew Susie, Like I knew Susie. :)

Do you not feel the tug on the ring in your nose?

Glad you're getting the pool up and running.

[Jenn]

<SMILE> Why are they afraid of me?

--
Jenn

[Jenn]

I think they are afraid of what I have to say...

--
Jenn

[OldGringo38]

I know of no one who is a afraid of you, do you think someone should be?

[OldGringo38]

Like I told Eagle, take your stance to a Pro.

[Jenn]

Fear comes in many forms, don't you agree?

--
Jenn

[Jenn]

haaahaha Having a point of view that differs from some others here does
not require submitting that POV to a Pro simply because the opposition
doesn't want to deal with differences of opinion.

For that matter ... those who can't deal with those differences should seek
out a Pro.


--
Jenn

[OldGringo38]

Common practice is to answer, not to ask.

[OldGringo38]

I have no fears of visiting a Pro do you?

[Jenn]

So why did you answer my question with a question?

--
Jenn

[Jenn]

... a Pro what?

--
Jenn

[OldGringo38]

Funny but I don't see any question ask by me, if you do you better see
that pro. <g>

[OldGringo38]

Professional Psychiatrist. Voice your POV to him/her and if he/she
agrees with your POV then I will.

[Jenn]

You have got to be kidding? You think a Prof. Psychiatrist is an expert of
viewpoints?

--
Jenn

[SeaNymph]

<sigh>

[SeaNymph]

It's a statement of my opinion. Here's what I don't think is helpful
and that's jenn blaming myself and Aardvark for every problem in this
group, all while she's stating her belief that insulting people is just
fine. What also isn't helpful, imo, is you telling a new poster that
Dustin is this and that. Letting people make up their own minds seems a
better way to go, instead of spreading more H&D.

[SeaNymph]

Let me state that I don't believe anyone is now, or has ever been,
afraid of jenn. Especially when all she does is slam people she has
blocked. Who's really afraid here? She called Aardvark a coward for
not confronting her directly, but that's exactly what she's chosen to do.

[SeaNymph]

What issues is she facing? She can't handle a conversation with certain
people so she blocks them and then continues to insult them. That's not
exactly facing up to differing points of view.

[SeaNymph]

Well yes she does, all the time.

[SeaNymph]

You're the one that's clearly afraid, which is why you block people and
then insult them. What's wrong jenn, can't hold your own in factual
discussion?

[SeaNymph]

On 5/24/2013 10:47 AM, Eagle wrote:
> SeaNymph formulated on Friday :

>> On 5/24/2013 7:06 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice <prac...@mouse-potato.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if he
>>>> was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get any
>>>> better as
>>>
>>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>>>
>> That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a mouthpiece
>> for eagle.
>
>> Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to make
>> more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations without
>> interference.
>

> The only attempt to 'stir the pot' as you put it, is your input here,
> SN. Your opinion is just adding fuel to the possible flame.
> Is that your intention?
>

Jenn continues to spew her insults concerning myself and Aardvark, yet
she blocks us so she doesn't have to deal with the consequences of what
she chooses to do, and she speaks for you, stirring up more.

This is usenet and I'm free to respond to whatever is posted.

[Aardvark]

That 'new poster' is just another sock, SN. Apart from one post made
quite some time ago, its entire posting record is a handful of posts in
this group this month, mostly in the last few days. I detect the hand of
the troll in this.



--
"I am not made like anyone I have seen; I dare believe I am not made
like anyone in existence. If I am not better, at least I am different."
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

[Eagle]

SeaNymph formulated on Friday :

Thanks SN.

--
Eagle
Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.

[Eagle]

on 5/24/2013, OldGringo38 supposed :

What 'pro' would that be George?

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 explained on 5/24/2013 :

Would a professional Shaman do?

[Eagle]

SeaNymph expressed precisely :

So in your view, Dustin can lie and insult people, but calling the fool
on his slime is not fair?

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 wrote this on 5/24/2013 :

> On 05/24/2013 10:47 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
>> On 5/24/2013 10:16 AM, OldGringo38 wrote:
>>> On 05/24/2013 09:54 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
>>>> On 5/24/2013 7:06 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
>>>>> <prac...@mouse-potato.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if he
>>>>>> was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get any
>>>>>> better as
>>>>>
>>>>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>>>>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>>>>>
>>>> That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a mouthpiece
>>>> for eagle.
>>>>
>>>> Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to make
>>>> more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations without
>>>> interference.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> there are those who think it necessary to speak for others in order to
>>> insure it is said the way they want. :)
>>>
>> I believe you are correct. Sort of make you wonder who's the puppet.
>>

> Dysfunctional puppets at best. :)

Baaaad George....no ice-cream for you tonight! lol

[OldGringo38]

I have never seen her converse with onyone about anything unless it's in
her back yard. :)

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 expressed precisely :
> On 05/24/2013 10:53 AM, Eagle wrote:
> <Snip the fun stuff>

>> you know Jenn doesn't try to tell anyone what to say. :D

> If you knew Susie, Like I knew Susie. :)

lol

> Do you not feel the tug on the ring in your nose? Yeah, but that's Tucker
> trying to get me to play with him. :D

> Glad you're getting the pool up and running.

Me three. The pool will do wonders for my back and knees.
Come on by next time you're in the 'hood... :D

[OldGringo38]

Omar the tent maker.

[OldGringo38]

Taking everything into consideration, YES!

[Eagle]

SeaNymph dropped this bomb :

I've seen you do the same with me, SN. Claim to ignore me, yet talk
smack about me to Aardvark.

> This is usenet and I'm free to respond to whatever is posted.

Why do you constantly say this? Don't you think I know freedom of
speech is a right we all are guaranteed?

[OldGringo38]

Shit missed again. :)

[Aardvark]

Unless the lie was about you, and the insult was of you, it's not your
problem. I've never known him to lie, and the only time I've seen him
insulting anyone is in response to a snotty post or similar.

> but calling the fool
> on his slime is not fair?

What slime?

[Jenn]

It's nearly impossible to simply *converse* with anyone here. This is a
hotbed of slams and dodge ball.

If you'd like to really converse ... try skype some time. :)


--
Jenn

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 formulated on Friday :

I use hellahwe, the tee-pee maker. He's a relative of fugahwee, the
lost tee-pee stretcher.

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 explained :

Great! I'll call one and send everyone here an invite for group
therapy. :')

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 grinned and said :

I've never seen Jenn converse with onyone either, George. :')

[Eagle]

Aardvark submitted this idea :

Do you really want me to dig up the slime Dustin has greased people
here with? He lives in my dungeon, so looking for his slime will be
difficult because he doesn't appear on my reader.
We both know the slimy shit he has said to not only me, but several
people here and elsewhere, so give me a break, ok? 8-o

[OldGringo38]

On 05/24/2013 02:41 PM, Eagle wrote:
> OldGringo38 expressed precisely :
>> On 05/24/2013 10:53 AM, Eagle wrote:
>> <Snip the fun stuff>
>
>>> you know Jenn doesn't try to tell anyone what to say. :D
>
>> If you knew Susie, Like I knew Susie. :)
>
> lol
>
>> Do you not feel the tug on the ring in your nose? Yeah, but that's
>> Tucker trying to get me to play with him. :D
>
>> Glad you're getting the pool up and running.
>
> Me three. The pool will do wonders for my back and knees.
> Come on by next time you're in the 'hood... :D
>

Well hope you get to feeling better.

[Aardvark]

Well, generally when one makes an accusation against someone, it's
customary to accompany the accusation with some supporting evidence.
Apart from anything else, it's only fair on the accused.

> He lives in my dungeon, so looking for his slime will be difficult
> because he doesn't appear on my reader.

So you're saying he has 'slimed' someone, not you, but you haven't
actually *seen* this sliming? That suggests two things to me- once again,
you're trying to fight some other poster's battle despite it being none
of your business, and you're trying to fight that someone else's battle
on absolutely no evidence that he actually did any wrong.

> We both know the slimy shit he has said

Speak for yourself. I've never known him to slime anyone.

> to not only me,

*Now* we're getting somewhere. Please cite this alleged slime.

> but several
> people here and elsewhere,

Not your problem or mine. You're talking about other people's problems.
They aren't yours to fix.

> so give me a break, ok?

As soon as you provide some evidence of your allegation. Be fair, so that
he has at least a chance to refute it.

[Eagle]

Aardvark brought next idea :

I'll bookmark this post and come back later then.
Shall I include all the annon posts? The exchanges between Graham and
Dustin? The unwarrented attacks on Jenn and BD? Jax? Shall I include
2600, 24 hour, MSPTH, freeware as well as APSE?
This could turn into a flame war you know. Is that what you want?

[Eagle]

OldGringo38 submitted this idea :

[Eagle]

Jenn explained on 5/24/2013 :
> Eagle wrote:
>> After serious thinking OldGringo38 wrote :

>>> On 05/24/2013 09:54 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
>>>> On 5/24/2013 7:06 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
>>>>> <prac...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if
>>>>>> he was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get
>>>>>> any better as
>>>>>
>>>>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>>>>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>>>>>
>>>> That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a
>>>> mouthpiece for eagle.
>>>>
>>>> Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to
>>>> make more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations
>>>> without interference.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> there are those who think it necessary to speak for others in order
>>> to insure it is said the way they want. :)
>>

>> How are you today George?
>> It's been nice here the past couple of days. 82F with a breeze from
>> the south. It usually blows from the east to west, so the dust and
>> weed seed is blowing in off the 20 acres behind us, messing up my
>> pool and spa. I just spent the past 45 minutes or so cleaning my pool
>> so I can put the thermal cover on the water. That damn thing works
>> better than that solar water heater I had installed some seven years
>> ago! Anyway, you know Jenn doesn't try to tell anyone what to say. :D

> <SMILE> Why are they afraid of me?

Good question.

[Eagle]

Jenn presented the following explanation :

> OldGringo38 wrote:

>> On 05/24/2013 11:48 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>> OldGringo38 wrote:

>>>> I know of no one who is a afraid of you, do you think someone should
>>>> be?
>>>
>>> Fear comes in many forms, don't you agree?
>>>
>>
>> Common practice is to answer, not to ask.

> So why did you answer my question with a question?

lol

[Jenn]

I'm guessing he won't answer my question. :-)

--
Jenn

[Jax]

Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in
news:knog0p$24a$1...@dont-email.me:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 12:36:33 -0700, Eagle wrote:
>>
>>
>> So in your view, Dustin can lie and insult people,
>
> Unless the lie was about you, and the insult was of you, it's not your
> problem. I've never known him to lie, and the only time I've seen him
> insulting anyone is in response to a snotty post or similar.

Aardvarkm I believe it was an Irish man who said..... "All tyranny needs
to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."

If he was right then it means it is our business what other people do.
Just saying! :)

--
Jax

[Eagle]

After serious thinking Jenn wrote :

He might. I mean, it's right up there, 6 lines up...see it?

[Jenn]

<giggle>

--
Jenn

[Aardvark]

Good.

> Shall I include all the annon posts?

Why should you do that?

> The exchanges between Graham and
> Dustin?

Do they contain any insults to you?

> The unwarrented attacks on Jenn and BD?

Unless you are one of those two people, no.

> Jax?

Unless that poster is you, no.

> Shall I include
> 2600, 24 hour, MSPTH, freeware as well as APSE?

If they contain insults of you, of course.

> This could turn into a flame war you know. Is that what you want?

You've accused Dustin of sliming and lying about you. What I want, what
is required for fairness' sake, in order that Dustin may refute, is
evidence of these things.

[Eagle]

Aardvark dropped this bomb :

<XnsA1C813DCDB62C9...@unknown.org>
Will this due for starters?

[Aardvark]

'Fraid not.

He simply voiced his opinion that you can't be trusted. I see no slime or
insult on you in that post. That post is evidence of nothing more than
that he holds that opinion. Hell, there are those here whose opinion of
me is exactly the same. I don't consider that an insult because their
opinions are of no importance to me. Why is Dustin's opinion of you so
important to you?

[OldGringo38]

I'm working on Skype, I'll let you know when I got it ready.

[OldGringo38]

:)

[OldGringo38]

That sounds cool <g>

[OldGringo38]

Just give it another 30 years and you will be like *any one* that
fucking old.

[Eagle]

I do. That's what matters.

That post is evidence of nothing more than
> that he holds that opinion. Hell, there are those here whose opinion of
> me is exactly the same. I don't consider that an insult because their
> opinions are of no importance to me. Why is Dustin's opinion of you so
> important to you?

It isn't. You make noise when someone speaks ill of you here, so do you
have a double standard?
I don't say squat about the kid, so his words are of a teenage punk
needing a good punch in the snot locker.

[Aardvark]

Well it might help matters if you point out where the slime you perceive
resides within the post.

> That post is evidence of nothing more than
>> that he holds that opinion. Hell, there are those here whose opinion of
>> me is exactly the same. I don't consider that an insult because their
>> opinions are of no importance to me. Why is Dustin's opinion of you so
>> important to you?
>
> It isn't.

Could've fooled me.

> You make noise when someone speaks ill of you here, so do you
> have a double standard?

Nope. I have no problem with anyone voicing their opinion of me. I
certainly have a problem when I'm lied about, as you well know.

> I don't say squat about the kid, so his words are of a teenage punk
> needing a good punch in the snot locker.

Simply because he doesn't trust you? That's just a bit overkill, don't
you think?

[SeaNymph]

> So in your view, Dustin can lie and insult people, but calling the fool

> on his slime is not fair?
>

There you go again. I bring up specific points, you ignore every one of
them and start talking about Dustin.

[SeaNymph]

You really want to go down that path? I've got more lies, slime and
insults from you, jax, bd and jenn to go head to head with you for a
long damn time.

[SeaNymph]

On 5/24/2013 2:45 PM, Eagle wrote:
> SeaNymph dropped this bomb :
>> On 5/24/2013 10:47 AM, Eagle wrote:
>>> SeaNymph formulated on Friday :

>>>> On 5/24/2013 7:06 AM, Jenn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:56:51 -0500, practice
>>>>> <prac...@mouse-potato.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> A while back, you pinged Aardie and {told, asked, stated}, if he
>>>>>> was civil, you would be civil. To me, that thread did not get any
>>>>>> better as
>>>>>
>>>>> ... Aardvark is only testing the idea of being civil.
>>>>> Eagle knows that it's not sincere.
>>>>>
>>>> That must be your opinion, unless of course, you are now a mouthpiece
>>>> for eagle.
>>>
>>>> Your attempt to stir the pot is noted, although it would seem to make
>>>> more sense to let these 2 men make their own determinations without
>>>> interference.
>>>

>>> The only attempt to 'stir the pot' as you put it, is your input here,
>>> SN. Your opinion is just adding fuel to the possible flame.
>>> Is that your intention?
>>>
>
>> Jenn continues to spew her insults concerning myself and Aardvark, yet
>> she blocks us so she doesn't have to deal with the consequences of
>> what she chooses to do, and she speaks for you, stirring up more.
>
> I've seen you do the same with me, SN. Claim to ignore me, yet talk
> smack about me to Aardvark.
>
>> This is usenet and I'm free to respond to whatever is posted.
>
> Why do you constantly say this? Don't you think I know freedom of speech
> is a right we all are guaranteed?
>
I know that you and jenn believe in free speech, as long as it applies
to the 2 of you and no one else. You both cry and whine when people
express opinions, you demand respect but you don't give it, jenn is
exactly the same. Frankly, I believe the 2 of you couldn't possibly act
more childish than you do now.

[Eagle]

G. Morgan presented the following explanation :

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 12:33:45 -0700, "Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote:

>> Would a professional Shaman do?

> Smoke some magic stuff, eat a few 'shrooms - and call it a day.

Works for me. The psilocybin is a bit much for my brain, I get visions
of crows dancing and singing, and it freaks me out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq7M7g9cl_8

I think one might be a british import....

[Eagle]

SeaNymph was thinking very hard :

You dumb chick, this isn't about YOU. Why do you always do the big
switcharoo so you can share the limelight?

[Eagle]

It happens that SeaNymph formulated :
>Number one;

I know that you and jenn believe in free speech, as long as it applies
to the
> 2 of you

Number two;

You both cry and whine when people express
> opinions, you demand respect but you don't give it

Are you on drugs?