Something for the not-so-bright among us

[Aardvark]

I'm sure those to whom I'm referring know exactly who you are. The
following links are an explanation of Dual Irish-British citizenship
followed by a good reason for any young person born in Northern Ireland
should apply for his Irish passport:

<http://www.dual-citizenship.com/dual-citizenship-ireland/>

<http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/02/the-citizenship-test-protestants-as-well-as-catholics-in-favour-of-fee-waiver/>



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like anyone in existence. If I am not better, at least I am different."
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

[SeaNymph]

On 5/22/2013 12:11 PM, Aardvark wrote:
> I'm sure those to whom I'm referring know exactly who you are. The
> following links are an explanation of Dual Irish-British citizenship
> followed by a good reason for any young person born in Northern Ireland
> should apply for his Irish passport:
>
> <http://www.dual-citizenship.com/dual-citizenship-ireland/>
>
> <http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/02/the-citizenship-test-protestants-as-well-as-catholics-in-favour-of-fee-waiver/>
>
>
>

Sad that one must go to such lengths to explain a simple concept. Of
course, we all know this has always been about nothing more than insults
by the ignorant. Even more astounding is the idea that these people
seem to believe they know more about the issue than you do. They have
already proven themselves totally incapable of understanding another
simple concept, that being that British law differs in many aspects from
American law. Must be hard to go through life that stupid.

[FromTheRafters]

SeaNymph pretended :

> On 5/22/2013 12:11 PM, Aardvark wrote:
>> I'm sure those to whom I'm referring know exactly who you are. The
>> following links are an explanation of Dual Irish-British citizenship
>> followed by a good reason for any young person born in Northern Ireland
>> should apply for his Irish passport:
>>
>> <http://www.dual-citizenship.com/dual-citizenship-ireland/>
>>
>> <http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/02/the-citizenship-test-protestants-as-well-as-catholics-in-favour-of-fee-waiver/>

[...]

> They have already proven themselves totally incapable of understanding
> another simple concept, that being that British law differs in many
> aspects from American law.

Not that much different though in this case.

[Aardvark]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:08:38 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:

> On 5/22/2013 12:11 PM, Aardvark wrote:
>> I'm sure those to whom I'm referring know exactly who you are. The
>> following links are an explanation of Dual Irish-British citizenship
>> followed by a good reason for any young person born in Northern Ireland
>> should apply for his Irish passport:
>>
>> <http://www.dual-citizenship.com/dual-citizenship-ireland/>
>>
>> <http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/02/the-citizenship-test-protestants-
as-well-as-catholics-in-favour-of-fee-waiver/>
>>
>>
>>
> Sad that one must go to such lengths to explain a simple concept.

And it certainly isn't the first time I've put this information under
their stupid noses. It seems to me that the last time it didn't sink in,
due probably to their combined difficulty with verbal comprehension and
memory shortcomings in short, medium and long term.

It appears as if they've completely forgotten everything from the last
time this topic was discussed.

> Of
> course, we all know this has always been about nothing more than insults
> by the ignorant.

Well, an insult based on faulty evidence and twisted facts is no real
insult, except to the person making the insult.

> Even more astounding is the idea that these people
> seem to believe they know more about the issue than you do.

That's a thought that struck me the last time round.

> They have
> already proven themselves totally incapable of understanding another
> simple concept, that being that British law differs in many aspects from
> American law.

The US has allowance for dual and multiple citizenship, doesn't it?

> Must be hard to go through life that stupid.

I guess it must be, but I can't actually imagine what it would be like.

[FromTheRafters]

It happens that Aardvark formulated :

The US generally does not recognize the concept - that is, it is not
specifically addressed. If a US citizen voluntarily becomes a citizen
of another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.

[FromTheRafters]

FromTheRafters explained :

I should add, that said US citizen voluntarily applies and gets
citizenship. This to further differentiate between those that get
awarded citizenship.

[Aardvark]

Which constitutional amendment contains the phrase 'If you ain't with us,
yer agin' us'? Inquiring minds an' all that.

[Eagle]

lol

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Eagle
Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.

[Oldus Fartus]

It happens that FromTheRafters formulated :

> The US generally does not recognize the concept - that is, it is not
> specifically addressed. If a US citizen voluntarily becomes a citizen of
> another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.

A good article at
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

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Cheers
Oldus Fartus

[FromTheRafters]

Oldus Fartus explained on 5/22/2013 :

Good indeed, I wonder how it differs from UK law.

[Oldus Fartus]

On 23/05/2013 FromTheRafters wrote :
> Oldus Fartus explained on 5/22/2013 :
>> It happens that FromTheRafters formulated :

>>> The US generally does not recognise the concept - that is, it is not

>>> specifically addressed. If a US citizen voluntarily becomes a citizen of
>>> another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.
>>
>> A good article at
>> http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
>
> Good indeed, I wonder how it differs from UK law.

I was surprised to read that if a US *voluntarily* becomes a citizen of
another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship. AFAIK in
the UK "(and Oz and NZ) one must specifically relinquish citizenship,
so that wouldn't apply.

The thing is though, that doesn't apply if one acquires dual
citizenship by birth, as in my great grandson's case!

(Actress Nicole Kidman was an example too - born in Hawaii of
Australian parents, so has dual citizenship.)

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Oldus Fartus

[Aardvark]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:04:12 +0800, Oldus Fartus wrote:

> On 23/05/2013 FromTheRafters wrote :
>> Oldus Fartus explained on 5/22/2013 :
>>> It happens that FromTheRafters formulated :
>>>> The US generally does not recognise the concept - that is, it is not
>>>> specifically addressed. If a US citizen voluntarily becomes a citizen
>>>> of another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.
>>>
>>> A good article at
>>> http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
>>
>> Good indeed, I wonder how it differs from UK law.
>
> I was surprised to read that if a US *voluntarily* becomes a citizen of
> another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.

So was I, mate.

> AFAIK in the
> UK "(and Oz and NZ) one must specifically relinquish citizenship, so
> that wouldn't apply.
>

My brother at one time had triple citizenship, with current passports to
match- Irish, British and Australian. He's now (since the late eighties)
an Australian citizen, but I'm not sure if he gave up the other two. Not
that it really matters- that's probably why I've never asked. :-)

> The thing is though, that doesn't apply if one acquires dual citizenship
> by birth, as in my great grandson's case!
>

I think, in that case, it's more a country claiming a person rather than
a person claiming a country.

> (Actress Nicole Kidman was an example too - born in Hawaii of Australian
> parents, so has dual citizenship.)

I like having dual citizenship. :-)

[FromTheRafters]

Oldus Fartus laid this down on his screen :

> On 23/05/2013 FromTheRafters wrote :
>> Oldus Fartus explained on 5/22/2013 :
>>> It happens that FromTheRafters formulated :
>>>> The US generally does not recognise the concept - that is, it is not
>>>> specifically addressed. If a US citizen voluntarily becomes a citizen of
>>>> another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.
>>>
>>> A good article at
>>> http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
>>
>> Good indeed, I wonder how it differs from UK law.
>
> I was surprised to read that if a US *voluntarily* becomes a citizen of
> another country, by US law he gives up his US citizenship.

When I visited Australia, I encountered some folks who offered me the
chance to become an Australian citizen. They implied that I (a USN
sailor at the time) would have dual-citizenship if I applied. I liked
Australia, but saw no reason for me to become a citizen as I was not
going to stay there for any great length of time.

Later, back in the US, I heard someone say that US citizens can't have
dual-citizenship because the US doesn't recognize such a thing. I knew
that was wrong, and decided to look it up to see where the confusion
comes from. That's when I found out about the voluntary application for
citizenship of another country resulting in the losing of US
citizenship. I believe *that* is the whole point of confusion in the
matter - well that, and something about offering prospective new
citizens the opportunity to renounce prior citizenship(s) and not
specifically requiring it.

Mostly, it's the same as anywhere else, and not really a case of a 'for
us or against us' mindset as much as it is a matter of convenience.

[BurfordTJustice]

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When I visited Australia,

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Now little morgan wannabe..exactly where is my blog
you claim to know of.

You opened your big mouth show some proof to back up another of your Lies.

Maybe your dirty feet has infected your brain..like Syphilis does.



You have some fooled but some know you are a leech.