Socialism and Obama
Neutered Repugs
pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have strongly
pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
Wouldn't he have required GM to provide more American jobs to create a
workers paradise? He did just the opposite, he told GM to open factories any
where in the world that they liked. He's such a socialist that he gave
Citicorp a $38 billion dollar tax cut, he favors a plan that taxes workers
healthcare plans, would a socalist do that? A Healthcare plan that leaves
control of helathcare in the hands of corporations and mandates that workers
must buy. A socialist? I don't think so, Shitheads, read a book, and turn
off Fox News.
Lamont Cranston
news:7glhj5ptgi2bs9i6e...@4ax.com
> what he can *get*.
>
> Clearly he *wanted* a 100% govt-financed govt-micromanged
> health system ... but political/fiscal/practical realities
> meant he couldn't *get* anything like that - so he took a
> sort of middle-road approach (apparently the middle road
> to the middle of nowhere ...).
>
> [ The same officials who so successfully regulated
> the activities of banks/lenders during the 2006-2008
> bubble will be transferred over to managing your
> govt health care ... the Peter Principle :-) ]
>
> OB *may* have wanted US jobs at GM ... but he was more
> concerned about GM going under entirely at the time so
> he threw money at them without worrying about where it
> was gonna wind up. That's the trouble with crises ...
> they tend to show up kinda suddenly, leaving little
> time to craft 'ideal' solutions.
>
> So yea, OB is a 'socialist' ... but he's a socialist
> in a deeply entrenched and influential capitalist
> system. Not being a gawd-emperor, there are gonna be
> big gaps between "want" and "get".
>
> The euros were blown all to shit during WW-2, so they
> kinda started from scratch again, the USA wasn't blown
> to shit so continuity was maintained in how the economy
> is run and who runs it. Frankly, in terms of overall
> quality-of-life, our managed capitalism equals or beats
> european capital-scented socialism. The main diff is
> that our system offers more "opportunity" at the expense
> of "security". Usually, this has worked in our favor
> though it does leave a small percentage more seriously
> poor than you'd see in eurotopia.
>
> So, instead of trying to re-invent a wheel that isn't
> really broken, OB ought to go with the flow and use
> the existing paradigm of 'managed capitalism' to
> achieve something akin to his stated (though not
> necessarly actual) goals. Health costs CAN be
> reduced ... by use of profit-caps. Jobs CAN be
> retained/regained ... by use of 'offshoring'
> taxes. Better management is the key - not trying
> to emulate the euros (why would anyone want to
> emulate those screwed-up countries anyway ?).
Do you mean those screwed-up countries that have a higner standard of
living than we do?
Peter Franks
Socialism will come little by little under covert lies.
Socialism is all about compulsion and its primary vehicle of acceptance
is through deception.
buzz
> Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama I just have to laugh. It is a
> pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
> fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have strongly
> pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
He is on record at least twice saying that is exactly what he wants. Do
attempt to keep up.
Barack Hussein Obmam...mmm mmm mmm
Send HIM to Pakistan to fight Osama...mmm mmm mmm
Simple-minded lying dummycrats (the party that birthed the KKK) and
liberals...morons electing morons.
Neutered Repugs
"buzz" <bu...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:hhau2p$4e0$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
Koo Koo, Koo Koo
*us*
>Socialism is all about compulsion and its primary vehicle of acceptance
>is through deception.
So when Bush lied to rob American taxpayers, forcing
them to subsidize his terrorism of Iraq, he was being
a socialist, right?
As in "Trotsky" ...
Christopher Helms
"Obama is a Socialist" isn't a fact; it's a talking point.
Peter Franks
If you think that this is associated with a particular person or party,
you are sadly mistaken.
*us*
>... you think ...
Give it a try.
Until then, don't use public resources.
*us*
>... sadly mistaken.
You even complain of 'socialism' as you
partake of public property/services,
don't you.
Peter Franks
Yes, I do. But that is largely voluntary and cooperative.
Nothing about socialism is voluntary. If you are trying to equate
driving on a public road and compulsory health care, you are sadly
mistaken, again.
Hey, have a nice day. It's been a pleasure conversing with you.
-pf
Morton Davis
"Neutered Repugs" <arf...@go.net> wrote in message
news:hhaeh4$fhl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama
because they're 100% correct.
Lookout
wrote:
>Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama I just have to laugh. It is a
ab...@eternal-september.org"
Another nym shifting troll. Of to the filter with him
Lamont Cranston
news:ifydnTMBRtgD0KTW...@mchsi.com
ROTFL! You don't know what socialism is, dumbfuck.
*us*
>* US * wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:17:36 -0800, Peter Franks <no...@none.com> wrote:
>>> ... sadly mistaken.
>>
>> You even complain of 'socialism' as you
>> partake of public property/services,
>> don't you.
>
>Yes, I do. But that is largely voluntary and cooperative.
I gladly contribute to public benefits such as healthcare
and infrastructure.
If you don't, then don't use those things.
>Nothing about socialism
You don't seem to know what the word means.
>... sadly
>mistaken, again.
You sure are.
"Why do republicans and conservatives screech "Socialism is Bad"
then use socialism to try and save our economy?"
*us*
>Nothing about socialism is voluntary
You imagine people wouldn't want to own the means of production?
Why?
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:17:36 -0800, Peter Franks <no...@none.com> wrote:
>... you think ...
Give it a try.
Until then, don't use public resources.
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:42:39 -0800, Peter Franks <no...@none.com> wrote:
buzz
just make silly noises like the koo koo bird I am."
Morton Davis
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@Shadow.com> wrote in message
news:hhd5jb$84f$1...@news.datemas.de...
I do, fucktard. Evidently you do not.
DamOTclese
To be fair, rightard's aren't the brightest idiots on the planet.
---
"The new President's a nigger!" -- Blazing Saddles II
Does belief in astrology cause insanity? http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
Tim Crowley
> what he can *get*.
>
> Clearly he *wanted* a 100% govt-financed govt-micromanged
> health system
Clearly, you are a liar.
Tim Crowley
hint: you just proved you have no idea what Socialism is.
Tim Crowley
Only of they have no idea what socialism is. Like you, for instance.
President Obama is a Capitalist. Look it up.
Tim Crowley
> Neutered Repugs wrote:
> > "buzz" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
hint: you're a k000k.
Tim Crowley
> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hhd5jb$84f$1...@news.datemas.de...
>
> > "Morton Davis" <antike...@go.com> wrote in message
> >news:ifydnTMBRtgD0KTW...@mchsi.com
> >> "Neutered Repugs" <arf...@go.net> wrote in message
> >>news:hhaeh4$fhl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama
>
> >> because they're 100% correct.
>
> > ROTFL! You don't know what socialism is, dumbfuck.
>
> I do, fucktard. Evidently you do not.
Actually, you don't.
Tim Crowley
Tim Crowley
Only of they have no idea what socialism is. Like you, for instance.
Tim Crowley
> > pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
> > fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have strongly
> > pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
>
Tim Crowley
> >Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama I just have to laugh. It is a
> >pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
> >fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have strongly
> >pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
>
> >Wouldn't he have required GM to provide more American jobs to create a
> >workers paradise? He did just the opposite, he told GM to open factories any
> >where in the world that they liked. He's such a socialist that he gave
> >Citicorp a $38 billion dollar tax cut, he favors a plan that taxes workers
> >healthcare plans, would a socalist do that? A Healthcare plan that leaves
> >control of helathcare in the hands of corporations and mandates that workers
> >must buy. A socialist? I don't think so, Shitheads, read a book, and turn
> >off Fox News.
>
Peter Franks
Then enlighten me -- what is socialism?
Tim Crowley
Let me guess, you also oppose public schools.
hint: i'm not your mommy. take some fucking responsibility for once
in your life.
Gavin Chung
But he didn't like Bush, doesn't drool over his gun collection and
never listened to Rush's show. So he doesn't meet the criteria to be
a capitalist. And that's all you need to be considered a big-time
Capitalist in Red State America.
It's aint got nuthin to do with book learnin or bein' successful in
business.
Peter Franks
> in your life.
Hmm, not a very nice nor enlightening response.
Like I said, socialism's primary vehicle of acceptance is through
deception, and it seems like you are on board with that.
Hey, have a nice day.
-pf
Dr. Barry Worthington
> Neutered Repugs wrote:
> > Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama I just have to laugh. It is a
> > pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
> > fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have strongly
> > pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
>
> > Wouldn't he have required GM to provide more American jobs to create a
> > workers paradise? He did just the opposite, he told GM to open factories any
> > where in the world that they liked. He's such a socialist that he gave
> > Citicorp a $38 billion dollar tax cut, he favors a plan that taxes workers
> > healthcare plans, would a socalist do that? A Healthcare plan that leaves
> > control of helathcare in the hands of corporations and mandates that workers
> > must buy. A socialist? I don't think so, Shitheads, read a book, and turn
> > off Fox News.
>
> Socialism will come little by little under covert lies.
>
> Socialism is all about compulsion and its primary vehicle of acceptance
> is through deception.
Let me enlighten you. In Britain we have a single payer, free at point
of service, National Insurance system. It has existed in its present
form since 1948, though the organisational principle dates back to
1911. the Labour Part, Liberal Democrats, and Conservatives all
support this system. They would not be electable if they did not. We
in Britain (and those in the rest of Europe with similar national
systems) look on in amazement at what passes for 'debate', on health
in the US...
Dr. Barry Worthington
DamOTclese
Your inability to reason does not mean that your intellectual and moral
superiors are at fault.
Tim Crowley
hint: you have no idea what socialism is. look it up.
damn, usenet gets dumber ever year.
Tim Crowley
What's really sad is that the ignorant liar refuses to educate
himself. He's what they call willfully ignorant.
Lookout
And then next week they'll call him a fascist. It's been going back
and forth for about a year now.
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
Shoot, next week he will probably act like a fascist so whats the
problem?
Tim Crowley
> In article <ub9pj55buelnv9gmmf5rgih2advmpo1...@4ax.com>,
> mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
thanks for admitting you don't know what fascism is. fuck, you no
name creeps are dumb.
tankfixer
@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
Ohh poor baby...
you another one too stopid to look in the headers ?
Tim Crowley
> In article <2463454a-417a-4c52-bee3-48b0309b9be5
> @m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
your the one publicly admitting he doesn't have any idea what fascism
means - or what a name field is.
tankfixer
a209ed...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
says...
Admitted no such thing..
You poofters proclaimed Bush a fascist for pushing the Patriot Act...
Since Dear Leader has not pushed to repeal it one can only draw one
conclusion...
>
> fuck, you no name creeps are dumb.
Like anyone believes your name is "Tim Crowley"
Tim Crowley
> In article <0fb62b37-519c-445b-bb34-
> a209edf02...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
Actually, you did. By your reference to fascism and the duly elected
President of the United States of America, you proved 100% for sure,
you have no idea what the term means. You admitted freely and
publicly that you are an ignorant, american hating pig-boy.
> You poofters proclaimed Bush a fascist for pushing the Patriot Act...
If you can find one post where I ever called the President of the
United States of America a fascist, I will apologize. You won't. I've
studied history, I know what fascism is. You lie.
> Since Dear Leader has not pushed to repeal it one can only draw one
> conclusion...
Yes, I drew the correct conclusion. You are dumb as dirt. And you
blame, "poofers" for your stupidity. Sad.
>
>
>
> > fuck, you no name creeps are dumb.
>
> Like anyone believes your name is "Tim Crowley"
Like anyone cares what an un-American, ignorant freak who calls itself
tankfixer thinks.
tankfixer
@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
I have found that when the adhominime insults begin the user of such is
usually lying and wishing to divert attention from said lies..
Tim Crowley
> In article <c61f5c84-f0af-492f-b474-797941264cf9
> @a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
adhominime?????
hint: learn english.
fuck, these no name idjits get dumber and dumber. let me guess,
you're opposed to public schools. yeah, it shows.
tankfixer
@f5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
Ohh a speeling flam...
We can tell you are opposed to personal hygene...
Tim Crowley
> In article <4248c1ff-01b7-4485-9c70-0fd7ea312899
> @f5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
What the hell does that mean? You are calling the President of The
United States of America a fascist, then say that you have "found
that when the adhominime insults begin the user of such is usually
lying". Do you ever think? Hello? Earth to "tankfixer" Do
you know anything about fascism? How fucking dumb are you?
Seriously? Now you want to talk about.. what?? "hygene"
Buahahahahahahahaha. hint: you're fucking stupid.
tankfixer
4517e6...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
says...
I'm playing watch the leftist meltdown..
What are you doing ?
Why melting down....
Tim Crowley
> In article <ee0aa1d3-7436-4804-b994-
> 4517e6831...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
not meltdown here, no-name. just facts. good luck in the future,
you suck at this.
tankfixer
798cd4...@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
says...
Sure thing "Timmy"...
The future looks bright, I move to a new position in my organization
later this month..
But it's ok "Timmy", Monday when I get dressed I'll make sure to
remember your little melt down when I reattach the flag to my shoulder..
Toddle Ooh "Timmy"
DamOTclese
The state of education in this country is deliberate. An ignorant,
stupid populace is a Republican-voting populace.
Tim Crowley
> In article <e37f8262-7ca2-4d7a-8ed7-
> 798cd4f2a...@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
Yeah, sure. But you have no idea what fascism is, what communism is,
or what it means to be an American. You're ignorant and I pity you
your stupidity.
tankfixer
@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
What's wrong "Timmy" the recruiter tell you they didn't need you ?
That you didn't measure up ?
Tim Crowley
> In article <ad2a95cb-9d0c-43e7-afb4-b9688f223d19
> @a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
Dance away, ignoramus.
hint: learn what the terms mean and how to spell them next time, you
don't always have to be a failure.
tankfixer
@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
Why should I listen to some little commie fascist like you Timmy ?
Tim Crowley
> In article <1b048ea7-7197-4256-b420-8e3d1d057327
> @c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
Stay ignorant than. Fine with me. You don't seem to mind that folks
point and laugh at the no-name idjit that doesn't know what words mean
or how to spell them. You must be used to it.
tankfixer
3d2cfb...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
Go clean the bus windows Timmy...
You will be late for school
Tim Crowley
> In article <6ca7e6b3-0b92-4086-a130-
> 3d2cfbe32...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
Thanks for making my point. Good job. (/pat on the head)
Iarnrod
> Why should I listen to some little commie fascist like you Timmy ?
BWAHAAAHHAHAHAHAAA!! "Commie fascist!" BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! One more
terminally confused rightie ignoramus!
tankfixer
@l30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
Still obsessing over people and what name they use Timmy ?
Fetch
Tim Crowley
And he's so proud of his ignorance. Wearing like some badge of honor.
Kinda sad, mostly funny.
Tim Crowley
And he's so proud of his ignorance. Wearing like some badge of honor.
Kinda sad, mostly funny.
tankfixer
@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
A real hoot, watching you call people ignorant when you can't even make
your newsreader stop double posting.....
Now fetch
Tim Crowley
> In article <9e1fd63f-abf0-4787-959f-2c21cff799e0
>
>
>
> > On Jan 2, 9:46 am, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 1, 10:54 pm, tankedkooker <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Why should I listen to some little commie fascist like you Timmy ?
>
> > > BWAHAAAHHAHAHAHAAA!! "Commie fascist!" BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! One more
> > > terminally confused rightie ignoramus!
>
> > And he's so proud of his ignorance. Wearing like some badge of honor.
> > Kinda sad, mostly funny.
>
> A real hoot, watching you call people ignorant when you can't even make
> your newsreader stop double posting.....
>
> Now fetch
Buahahahahahahaha. hint: i'm not using a news reader.
do you ever get anything right? ever?
tankfixer
38f13e...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
says...
Even worse then !
You arn't even smart enough to USe a newsreader.. you have to use
google...
> do you ever get anything right? ever?
I'm not the looser using google to post to usenet...
Tim Crowley
> In article <e9e048ed-3f24-49da-8281-
> 38f13ee4e...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 2, 2:11 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article <9e1fd63f-abf0-4787-959f-2c21cff799e0
> > > @m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
>
> > > > On Jan 2, 9:46 am, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 1, 10:54 pm, tankedkooker <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Why should I listen to some little commie fascist like you Timmy ?
>
> > > > > BWAHAAAHHAHAHAHAAA!! "Commie fascist!" BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! One more
> > > > > terminally confused rightie ignoramus!
>
> > > > And he's so proud of his ignorance. Wearing like some badge of honor.
> > > > Kinda sad, mostly funny.
>
> > > A real hoot, watching you call people ignorant when you can't even make
> > > your newsreader stop double posting.....
>
> > > Now fetch
>
> > Buahahahahahahaha. hint: i'm not using a news reader.
>
> Even worse then !
yawn.
hint: learn the terms or be laughed at. i was using a news reader
before you learned to spell. Oh, wait, you still can't spell.
hahahahahahahahahaha
the no names on usenet get dumber every year. back when we used nn to
access usenet, folks were proud to use names and debate based on
facts. now we have you and danny, spewing hate anonymously. it's
sad.
tankfixer
@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Jan 2, 5:31 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <e9e048ed-3f24-49da-8281-
> > 38f13ee4e...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
> > says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 2, 2:11 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <9e1fd63f-abf0-4787-959f-2c21cff799e0
> > > > @m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > > > > On Jan 2, 9:46 am, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Jan 1, 10:54 pm, tankedkooker <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Why should I listen to some little commie fascist like you Timmy ?
> >
> > > > > > BWAHAAAHHAHAHAHAAA!! "Commie fascist!" BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! One more
> > > > > > terminally confused rightie ignoramus!
> >
> > > > > And he's so proud of his ignorance. Wearing like some badge of honor.
> > > > > Kinda sad, mostly funny.
> >
> > > > A real hoot, watching you call people ignorant when you can't even make
> > > > your newsreader stop double posting.....
> >
> > > > Now fetch
> >
> > > Buahahahahahahaha. hint: i'm not using a news reader.
> >
> > Even worse then !
>
> yawn.
>
>
> hint: learn the terms or be laughed at. i was using a news reader
> before you learned to spell. Oh, wait, you still can't spell.
> hahahahahahahahahaha
Better hurry, I hear your mommy calling to take you back to college...
>
> the no names on usenet get dumber every year. back when we used nn to
> access usenet, folks were proud to use names and debate based on
> facts. now we have you and danny, spewing hate anonymously. it's
> sad.
The only hate I see is spewed by you friend...
Lookout
wrote:
Once again we see an idiot who thinks a college education is bad.
>
>>
>> the no names on usenet get dumber every year. back when we used nn to
>> access usenet, folks were proud to use names and debate based on
>> facts. now we have you and danny, spewing hate anonymously. it's
>> sad.
>
>The only hate I see is spewed by you friend...
I see no hate.
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama I just have to laugh. It is a
> pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
> fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have strongly
> pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
>
> Wouldn't he have required GM to provide more American jobs to create a
> workers paradise? He did just the opposite, he told GM to open factories any
> where in the world that they liked. He's such a socialist that he gave
> Citicorp a $38 billion dollar tax cut, he favors a plan that taxes workers
> healthcare plans, would a socalist do that? A Healthcare plan that leaves
> control of helathcare in the hands of corporations and mandates that workers
> must buy. A socialist? I don't think so, Shitheads, read a book, and turn
> off Fox News.
Socialism is mandatory sentencing based on collective punishments for
dissenting views on State Sponsored religious penal systems.
God is a pedophile
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
A college education is good..
What we don't need are more social "science" majors..
Starbucks has been cutting back and the job market is slim for the
skills they might learn in college..
> >
> >>
> >> the no names on usenet get dumber every year. back when we used nn to
> >> access usenet, folks were proud to use names and debate based on
> >> facts. now we have you and danny, spewing hate anonymously. it's
> >> sad.
> >
> >The only hate I see is spewed by you friend...
> I see no hate.
Why would you ?
You think as he does..
Tim Crowley
> In article <3va1k55ioel7upkvm5hje6v88us8eb7...@4ax.com>,
> mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:32:11 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >In article <83fa8d52-264d-4641-a596-c1d45776c930
> > >@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
Exactly, we think. You should try it.
tankfixer
3be691...@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
says...
I've seen little evidence you think...
Tim Crowley
> In article <77c60e26-71e9-4dd0-bc54-
> 3be69167c...@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com
sigh, at least I know what the terms mean, child. I don't go around
calling the President of the United States of America a fascist, like
you did. You don't even seem to have any idea how uneducated that
makes you look. If you learned what the terms meant, maybe you could
criticize the President with some skill. There is much to be critical
of, as with any President. Your lack of education makes it impossible
for you to make your case. You just get laughed at.
tankfixer
@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
Oddly enough I don't recall your outrage when Bush was called a
fascist...
For the record...
fas·cism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as
that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the
individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government
headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social
regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Fascist
I will concede Dear Leader falls short in some areas his devoted
followers certainly show themselves to be true believers
Tim Crowley
> In article <52868bee-340d-48d8-b330-5b5a36363030
> @a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
>
> I will concede Dear Leader falls short in some areas his devoted
So, you wanna be serious now, eh? All copy and pasting like that.
Cool. Tell us, what is the most fascist action that President Obama
has taken. Please be specific, try to show your understanding of the
terms. Read carefully and maybe try it in your own words. I'll
wait. Good luck.
Peter Franks
> Tim Crowley wrote:
>> On Dec 29, 9:13 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>>> Tim Crowley wrote:
>>>> On Dec 28, 9:42 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Anytime someone mentions socialism with Obama I just have to
>>>>>> laugh. It is a
>>>>>> pathetic ignorance that doesn't know the difference between corporate
>>>>>> fascism and socialism. If Obama were a socialist wouldn't he have
>>>>>> strongly
>>>>>> pushed for single payer healthcare like the socialist countries have?
>>>>>> Wouldn't he have required GM to provide more American jobs to
>>>>>> create a
>>>>>> workers paradise? He did just the opposite, he told GM to open
>>>>>> factories any
>>>>>> where in the world that they liked. He's such a socialist that he
>>>>>> gave
>>>>>> Citicorp a $38 billion dollar tax cut, he favors a plan that taxes
>>>>>> workers
>>>>>> healthcare plans, would a socalist do that? A Healthcare plan that
>>>>>> leaves
>>>>>> control of helathcare in the hands of corporations and mandates
>>>>>> that workers
>>>>>> must buy. A socialist? I don't think so, Shitheads, read a book,
>>>>>> and turn
>>>>>> off Fox News.
>>>>> Socialism is all about compulsion and its primary vehicle of
>>>>> acceptance
>>>>> is through deception.
>>>> hint: you just proved you have no idea what Socialism is.
>>> Then enlighten me -- what is socialism?
>>
>> Let me guess, you also oppose public schools.
>>
>> hint: i'm not your mommy. take some *** responsibility for once
>> in your life.
>
> Hmm, not a very nice nor enlightening response.
>
> Like I said, socialism's primary vehicle of acceptance is through
> deception, and it seems like you are on board with that.
>
On a related note, how come a socialist can NEVER answer the question as
to what socialism actually is? I've asked numerous times in various
forums, and usually get insults about my heritage, profanity, and/or
related vitriol, but never an actual response to the question/challenge.
Anyone care to actually /answer/ what socialism really is since I'm so
mistaken?
Lookout
wrote:
Starbucks had nothing to do with this.
>> >>
>> >> the no names on usenet get dumber every year. back when we used nn to
>> >> access usenet, folks were proud to use names and debate based on
>> >> facts. now we have you and danny, spewing hate anonymously. it's
>> >> sad.
>> >
>> >The only hate I see is spewed by you friend...
>> I see no hate.
>
>Why would you ?
>You think as he does..
No I don't You're lying again.
tankfixer
@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com says...
The Patriot Act still stands..
If Bush was a fascist for pushing it then Obama is one for allowing it
to continue..
Lookout
So he's a fascist this week?
I guess next weeks is commie week and then the next is socialist week.
They keep changing their schedule for name calling.
Tim Crowley
>
> On a related note, how come a socialist can NEVER answer the question as
> to what socialism actually is?
What? Maybe you should read what socialists have written about
socialism? How can you be so stupid?
Here's a start for you.
http://www.worldsocialism.org/articles/what_is_socialism.php
how do you manage to feed yourself?
Tim Crowley
>
> The Patriot Act still stands..
> If Bush was a fascist for pushing it then Obama is one for allowing it
> to continue..
So, is it your claim that the Patriot Act was fascist? A law voted
on by a majority of elected officials in the US. What exactly do you
think is fascist about that?
You seem confused.
Lookout
wrote:
>In article <52868bee-340d-48d8-b330-5b5a36363030
Who called bush a fascist?
How do you know he saw that comment?
You seem to guess at a lot of so called facts. Why is that?
>For the record...
>fas�cism
>1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as
>that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the
>individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government
>headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social
>regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Fascist
>
>
>I will concede Dear Leader falls short in some areas his devoted
>followers certainly show themselves to be true believers
That can be said of both parties.
You're making an ass of yourself.
Lookout
Lookout
We know what fascism and socialism are. It's the uneducated and
ignorant idiots in here LIKE YOU (franks, tankfixer, klaus,
ghostrider, etc) who call Obama a different name each week who have no
idea what they mean
tankfixer
3da13f...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
says...
I am merely giving you the leftist stand on that law..
I know you were too busy with your game boy when Bush was vilified but
the left advocating it.
>
>
> You seem confused.
That is your reflection in the mirror.
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/george-bush-is-a-fascist-
you-wanted-proof-here-it-is/
http://fixco1.com/bushfascist.html
http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/bujofablt.html
http://digg.com/politics/Olbermann_says_Bush_a_fascist_who_uses_terroris
m
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/welcome-to-the-final-
stag_b_127990.html
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-
bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/05/22/empirical_evidence_george_w_bush_is_a_fa
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/george-bush-is-a-fascist-
you-wanted-proof-here-it-is/
http://fixco1.com/bushfascist.html
http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/bujofablt.html
http://digg.com/politics/Olbermann_says_Bush_a_fascist_who_uses_terroris
m
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/welcome-to-the-final-
stag_b_127990.html
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-
bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/05/22/empirical_evidence_george_w_bush_is_a_fa
> How do you know he saw that comment?
A person has to see a comment for it to have happened ?
Interesting...
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:13:24 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article <3128a33a-9057-463b-97d0-2225b40eb084
> >@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
Waterboarding is not torture. It is compassionate conservatism.
Lookout
wrote:
>In article <c1a917db-a01d-4278-8b71-
>3da13f...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, timmyt...@gmail.com
>says...
>>
>> On Jan 3, 9:13�pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> > The Patriot Act still stands..
>> > If Bush was a fascist for pushing it then Obama is one for allowing it
>> > to continue..
>>
>> So, is it your claim that the Patriot Act was fascist? A law voted
>> on by a majority of elected officials in the US. What exactly do you
>> think is fascist about that?
>
>I am merely giving you the leftist stand on that law..
Who are\is the "leftists"?
>I know you were too busy with your game boy when Bush was vilified but
>the left advocating it.
>
>>
>>
>> You seem confused.
>
>That is your reflection in the mirror.
And another 3rd grade insult. Wow!
Lookout
wrote:
All OPINION pieces. They speak for no one other then themselves yet
you like to imply that some general spokesperson for some unspecified
group was speaking for some unnamed mass.
Your broad brush comments are useless in an intelligent debate.
Lookout
wrote:
I didn't say that. You implied he had. Once again you're lying.
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:19:22 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article <2ou2k5lvq91nuk3nijm1juaiagutjro...@4ax.com>,
> >mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
> >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 13:58:11 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >In article <52868bee-340d-48d8-b330-5b5a36363030
> >> >@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, timmyturm...@gmail.com says...
.
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
So you couldn't get hired there either, pity..
>
> >> >>
> >> >> the no names on usenet get dumber every year. back when we used nn to
> >> >> access usenet, folks were proud to use names and debate based on
> >> >> facts. now we have you and danny, spewing hate anonymously. it's
> >> >> sad.
> >> >
> >> >The only hate I see is spewed by you friend...
> >> I see no hate.
> >
> >Why would you ?
> >You think as he does..
>
> No I don't You're lying again.
Once more you confuse opinion with fact.
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
You asked who had called Bush a fascist..
Not my fault you can't handle the truth...
>
> Your broad brush comments are useless in an intelligent debate.
Funny you condem broad brush comments when others make them...
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
You really need to cut back on the "medicinal" marijuana...