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Ball-less Repugs

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Dec 29, 2009, 6:48:42 PM12/29/09
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Karl Rove Attacks Obama For Not Interrogating Terrorism Suspects "The Way
They Do In Crime Movies And Television Crime Dramas"

Rove's was just one in a nearly non-stop parade of all Obama-blaming,
all-the-time segments on Fox yesterday along with occasional calls for
racial profiling on airplanes. I fully expect them to continue today, ad
infinitum. But the segment with Rove was especially odious not only because
of the blatantly anti-Obama set up but also because of the jaw-dropping
hypocrisy of choosing Karl Rove, a guy who has no business accusing anyone
else of national security failures, to do it. Substitute host Tucker Carlson
not only failed to challenge Rove on any of the shortcomings of either Rove's
own record or those of the Bush administration, he facilitated Rove's
attacks.

Karl Rove can't seem to tell the difference between real life terrorism
investigation and a movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvAXQussoBU&feature=player_embedded

Anyone think Mr. Obama 'sat terrified w/fear, unable to speak, glazing at
the wall for 7 minutes' like Shrubya? Adults are back in charge now and
the advice of those who fucked this up in the first pace is definitely not
welcome.

Mr. Rove of course stepped down from his position as President Bush's Deputy
Chief of Staff to spend more time on Fox and divorcing his family.

"Karl Rove granted divorce in Texas"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31036.html

Killing, Inc.

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:09:58 PM12/29/09
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On Dec 29, 5:48 pm, "Ball-less Repugs" <barfb...@go.net> wrote:
> Karl Rove Attacks Obama For Not Interrogating Terrorism Suspects "The Way
> They Do In Crime Movies And Television Crime Dramas"

> Anyone think Mr. Obama 'sat terrified w/fear, unable to speak, glazing at


> the wall for 7 minutes' like Shrubya?  

I've seen the Cretin In Chief give that look at least 7 times now, for
a much less stunning event than a major terrorist attack. It usually
happens whenever his teleprompter goes out.

Ball-less Repugs

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:14:26 PM12/29/09
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"Killing, Inc." <i.am.kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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==============

Get back on your medicine, Oafmar al-Killing, you are seeing things.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 29, 2009, 8:09:39 PM12/29/09
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On Dec 29, 7:09 pm, "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
wrote:

And you voted, twice, for the clown who allowed the terrorists to
attack New York and Washington.

Bush was the president, Bush failed.

Killing, Inc.

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:24:02 PM12/29/09
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Nah, I never voted for Clinton. Not even once.

Ball-less Repugs

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Dec 29, 2009, 11:04:36 PM12/29/09
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"Killing, Inc." <i.am.kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sure of that?

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:26:50 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 29, 10:24 pm, "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>

wrote:
> On Dec 29, 7:09 pm, Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 29, 7:09 pm, "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 29, 5:48 pm, "Ball-less Repugs" <barfb...@go.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Karl Rove Attacks Obama For Not Interrogating Terrorism Suspects "The Way
> > > > They Do In Crime Movies And Television Crime Dramas"
> > > > Anyone think Mr. Obama 'sat terrified w/fear, unable to speak, glazing at
> > > > the wall for 7 minutes' like Shrubya?  
>
> > > I've seen the Cretin In Chief give that look at least 7 times now, for
> > > a much less stunning event than a major terrorist attack. It usually
> > > happens whenever his teleprompter goes out.
>
> > And you voted, twice, for the clown who allowed the terrorists to
> > attack New York and Washington.
>
> Nah, I never voted for Clinton. Not even once.

Face it, scum, you utterly failed. Clinton had a balanced budget.
Bush had the biggest deficits in history. Clinton brought us a world
united, Bush brought us a world that hated our guts. Bush was
president when we were attacked and then went on to kill more
Americans than that in a lost, meaningless war in Iraq.

Bush was president when we were attacked. Bush was on watch and
failed. Then he went on to attack Iraq that had nothing at all to do
with the attack.

Of course you gutless clowns weren't smart enough to figure that one
out.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:44:12 AM12/30/09
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I remember the Democrats fighting SO HARD to not attack Iraq.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including,
if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe
Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John
Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors
last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam
Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that
biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be
back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine
delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile
program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the
United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter
signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among
others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement
between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by
failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and
refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations
inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction,
including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive
progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a
joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18,
2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while
retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs.
We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline
Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and
some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he
has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger,
Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all
weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up
to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course
to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability.
Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons,
but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October
2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has
chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But
the United States right now is on a very much different defensive
posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as
we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't
have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I
think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as
would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq
represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did
use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to
think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international
inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques
Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of
threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction,
ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond
today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be
emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no
evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11,
2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical
warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he
succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security
landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects
American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence
back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from
gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up
and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense
William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass
destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them
against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our
allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades,
Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every
available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons.
He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and
is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to
build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to
achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national
security. It should be clear that our national security requires
Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is
united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its
weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf
and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his
access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of
mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we
should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to
deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction."
-- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27,
2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger,
that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass
destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy,
Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the
authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F.
Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end
of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after
Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has
continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years
to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the
interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and
the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous
dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his
offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so
consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating
America�s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp
for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the
United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding
that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of
Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not
new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." --
John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19,
2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological
weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for
the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and
biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N.
inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear
facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various
reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons
capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear
weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical
weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological
weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used
chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish
population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the
past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can
be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining
weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible
intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq
still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and
clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen
bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue
manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons
of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and
mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and
ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use
industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute
large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector
Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he
can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources --
something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also
should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has
made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John
Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam�s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a
very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons
before, both against Iraq�s enemies and against his own people. He is
working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial
vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and
U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration�s policy
towards Iraq, I don�t think there can be any question about Saddam�s
conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past
11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he
disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any
nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he
snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors;
and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the
just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security
Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the
facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

Killing, Inc.

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:56:33 AM12/30/09
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> out.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Feel better Kevvie, now that you've let your nutbag freak-flag fly?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:08:35 AM12/30/09
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In talk.politics.guns "Killing, Inc." <i.am.kil...@gmail.com>
wrote:


This was my favorite part....

>>�Clinton brought us a world united

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:20:47 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 7:56 am, "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>

I use my real name, you don't. You can't post a fact that shows that
Bush was a better president than Clinton. You can't post the name of
a historian who says that Bush was a better president than Clinton.

To scared to use your real name?

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:24:11 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 7:44 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And ...
>
> read more »

So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. Woops, my
bad, he didn't. Along with a lot of dems.

The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied. In his
speech to the nation it was one lie after another.

Were are:

Iraqi nukes
Iraqi bio weapons
Iraqi missiles
Iraqi nuclear facilities

Got a clue?

We were lied to and you vote for this scum....twice.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:41:43 AM12/30/09
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In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. Woops, my
>bad, he didn't. Along with a lot of dems.

[chuckle] Obama became a Senator in 2005.
Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[59]

Iraq War began 2003.

The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq,[37] The Second
Gulf War[38] or Operation Iraqi Freedom,[39] is an ongoing[40]
military campaign which began on March 20, 2003,

Are ALL you leftists so fucking dumb?

>The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied.

The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.

AIG Ball-less Repugs

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:43:21 AM12/30/09
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Untrue. Richard Clarke warned the 'party boy' Bush but Bush was retarded
and dismissed Clark as one of those, "Clinton peoples".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22231-2004Mar24.html

AIG Ball-less Repugs

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=============

Here's what the repugs want to hide;
http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/Bush/RichardClarke/index.html

tankfixer

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:10:26 PM12/30/09
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In article <25kmj5pdgqf2q7n91...@4ax.com>,
klausscha...@yahoo.com says...


I was going to ask him who had more undeclared wars...

*us*

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:00:11 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:43:21 -0800, "AIG Ball-less Repugs" <argba...@go.net> wrote:

>"Klutz Shakeinfear" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2olmj51f8p8qftdk9...@4ax.com...


Bush would prefer people believe he'd be stupid.

He didn't dismiss the warnings by accident.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:36:22 PM12/30/09
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In talk.politics.guns "AIG Ball-less Repugs" <argba...@go.net>
wrote:

>

[chuckle] Are you too fucking stupid to even read what you're replying
to?

[from your link]
The White House authorized identifying Clarke as the official who
anonymously gave a background briefing for reporters in 2002 that
included positive comments about Bush's anti-terrorism strategies.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:26:09 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 8:41 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I didn't and tens of millions of Americans knew a repug lie when they
hear it. Bush lied. Repeatedly.

Did the Iraqi's have a nuclear capability? Did they try to buy
uranium from Niger? Did they have chemical weapons? Did they have a
long range rocket.

The answer is no, they didn't. But Bush lied, deliberately,
repeatedly. Bush knew that there were morons like you every where,
you would believe any thing you are told, even if it was a lie.

Oh, drooler, I said "So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion
of Iraq. Woops, mybad, he didn't." He was a member of the Illinois
legislature and he spoke out forcefully against the war. I didn't say
he was a senator, see, you can't stop lying.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:29:11 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 2:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <25kmj5pdgqf2q7n91sm9gt8g6jqrg2q...@4ax.com>,
> klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
> > In talk.politics.guns "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>

> > wrote:
>
> > This was my favorite part....
>
> > >> Clinton brought us a world united
>
> > >Feel better Kevvie, now that you've let your nutbag freak-flag fly?
>
> I was going to ask him who had more undeclared wars...

And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs. They haven't that
guts to take on little 'ole me. They haven't the guts to use their
real names. Most of them have run from serving their nation although
they approve of every war we have fought.

Bush, Cheney and Rove the Immoral ran from the Vietnam war. So did a
bunch of repugs who appear on this NG.

How do they feel when they pass by a VA Hospital? How do they feel
when they pass a military cemetery.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:31:05 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 5:36 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns "AIG Ball-less Repugs" <argbarfb...@go.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Notice the above pig can't deal with the fact that hypocrite Rove, the
leader of the moral repugs, is getting a divorce.

So what ever happened to life time marriage? Did it get damaged when
Sen. Vitter was found in a whore house? Ouch, that must'a hurt!

Killing, Inc.

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:22:12 PM12/30/09
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Damn, when you lose it, you REALLY lose it, don't you Kevvie? <snicker>

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:45:34 PM12/30/09
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Notice that the leftist thug is so fucking stupid he's trying to tell
us Obama didn't vote for the Iraq War, not knowing that he wasn't even
a Senator then.

Then he attempts to bring up Rove in a feeble attempt to divert
attention from this fact.

Time for you to take your bottle of Jack Daniel and find Richard
Scaife's restroom isn't it? [chuckle]

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:46:33 PM12/30/09
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In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Dec 30, 8:41�am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. �Woops, my
>> >bad, he didn't. �Along with a lot of dems.
>>
>> [chuckle] Obama became a Senator in 2005.
>> Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[59]
>>
>> Iraq War began 2003.
>>
>> The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq,[37] The Second
>> Gulf War[38] or Operation Iraqi Freedom,[39] is an ongoing[40]
>> military campaign which began on March 20, 2003,
>>
>> Are ALL you leftists so fucking dumb?
>>
>> >The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied. �
>>
>> The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
>> the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.
>
>I didn't and tens of millions of Americans knew a repug lie when they
>hear it. Bush lied. Repeatedly.

You have no idea when Obama even became a Senator, you stupid fucking
twit. Nobody cares what you claim to know and not know.

AHAHAHAHAAHHA

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:19:19 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:46:33 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 30, 8:41�am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. �Woops, my
>>> >bad, he didn't. �Along with a lot of dems.
>>>
>>> [chuckle] Obama became a Senator in 2005.
>>> Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[59]
>>>
>>> Iraq War began 2003.
>>>
>>> The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq,[37] The Second
>>> Gulf War[38] or Operation Iraqi Freedom,[39] is an ongoing[40]
>>> military campaign which began on March 20, 2003,
>>>
>>> Are ALL you leftists so fucking dumb?
>>>
>>> >The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied. �
>>>
>>> The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
>>> the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.
>>
>>I didn't and tens of millions of Americans knew a repug lie when they
>>hear it. Bush lied. Repeatedly.
>
>You have no idea when Obama even became a Senator, you stupid fucking
>twit. Nobody cares what you claim to know and not know.

HAHAHAHAH you got shot down again!
Now you're have to stop responding to him too!
AHAHAHAHHAAHHA you stupid fucking little ignorant twit.

tankfixer

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In article <19050b9a-faea-4463-a2c3-
34d320...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com
says...

>
> On Dec 30, 2:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <25kmj5pdgqf2q7n91sm9gt8g6jqrg2q...@4ax.com>,
> > klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > In talk.politics.guns "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > This was my favorite part....
> >
> > > >> Clinton brought us a world united
> >
> > > >Feel better Kevvie, now that you've let your nutbag freak-flag fly?
> >
> > I was going to ask him who had more undeclared wars...
>
> And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs. They haven't that
> guts to take on little 'ole me. They haven't the guts to use their
> real names. Most of them have run from serving their nation although
> they approve of every war we have fought.

You can read my real name in the headers fuckwit..
I think you are smart enough to find it.

Since service is important to you how long did you volunteer for ?
Did you manage to finish it or did you get shown the door ?

So care to answer the query ?
How many undeclared wars did CLinton engage in ?

It's obvious the question upsets you since you attacked me instead of
answering it.
So go ahead..
Care to answer ?

tankfixer

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:00:01 PM12/30/09
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In article <4583b9a9-7b8c-41fc-811e-34e0a3b18e06
@upsg2000gro.googlegroups.com>, i.am.kil...@gmail.com says...

Kevvie sure gets his knickers in a bunch..
Hope there are no pouches strapped nearby..

Morton Davis

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"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:a368830c-0069-4ba5...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

On Dec 30, 8:41 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. Woops, my
> >bad, he didn't. Along with a lot of dems.
>
> [chuckle] Obama became a Senator in 2005.
> Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[59]
>
> Iraq War began 2003.
>
> The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq,[37] The Second
> Gulf War[38] or Operation Iraqi Freedom,[39] is an ongoing[40]
> military campaign which began on March 20, 2003,
>
> Are ALL you leftists so fucking dumb?
>
> >The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied.
>
> The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
> the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.

I didn't and tens of millions of Americans knew a repug lie when they
hear it. Bush lied. Repeatedly.


----------------------
The only liar is you. Terminal BDS is a disease you chose.


Killing, Inc.

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:10:43 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 8:00 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4583b9a9-7b8c-41fc-811e-34e0a3b18e06
> @upsg2000gro.googlegroups.com>, i.am.killing....@gmail.com says...
> Hope there are no pouches strapped nearby..- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Leftwingers and are the most evil, vindictive scum on the planet, and
they will take any personal info you give them and use it against you.
They have no reason to know who you are, so be careful with the
details you give about yourself that can be looked up somewhere.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:40:57 AM12/31/09
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In talk.politics.guns AHAHAHAHAAHHA <ukno...@here.com> wrote:

>Now you're have to stop responding to him too!

English a second language for you? [chuckle]

Kevin Cunningham

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On Dec 30, 7:22 pm, "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
wrote:

Come on scum, show us your patriotic side, show us the side of the
past administration, Bush, Cheney and Rove never served their
country. And, gee, they loved to bray about their patriotism.

See, gutless, you approve of war but you repugs don't serve.

Yeah, it must hurt you to see a VA hospital full of the wounded that
your policies created.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:53:34 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 7:45 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>

Want'a talk homo's? Let's talk some Larry Craig, the repug from Idaho
who liked to get sucked off in airport mens rooms. Or how about Jeff
Gannon, Junior Reporter, who was hired by you, and let into the inner
White House by people like you except no one will report why. Or
there was child molester and hom Foley.

And now Rove, the Mr. Moral of the repug party is getting his second
divorce. This is while repugs are accusing we dems of all sorts of
immoral things, but Rove is getting a divorce, right now and you say
that getting a divorce is immoral. So attack Rove.

Face it, repugs love closeted homos. It suits them to a T, more fun
parties.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:55:05 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 7:46 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>

Sorry to prove you wrong. Go talk to your hero Rove about why he is
getting a divorce. Thought that violated the sanctity of marriage.

Kevin Cunningham

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On Dec 30, 8:59 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <19050b9a-faea-4463-a2c3-
> 34d320f85...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com

> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 30, 2:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article <25kmj5pdgqf2q7n91sm9gt8g6jqrg2q...@4ax.com>,
> > > klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > > > In talk.politics.guns "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > This was my favorite part....
>
> > > > >> Clinton brought us a world united
>
> > > > >Feel better Kevvie, now that you've let your nutbag freak-flag fly?
>
> > > I was going to ask him who had more undeclared wars...
>
> > And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs.  They haven't that
> > guts to take on little 'ole me.  They haven't the guts to use their
> > real names.  Most of them have run from serving their nation although
> > they approve of every war we have fought.
>
> You can read my real name in the headers fuckwit..
> I think you are smart enough to find it.
>
> Since service is important to you how long did you volunteer for ?
> Did you manage to finish it or did you get shown the door ?
>
> So care to answer the query ?
> How many undeclared wars did CLinton engage in ?
>
> It's obvious the question upsets you since you attacked me instead of
> answering it.
> So go ahead..
> Care to answer ?
>

See, scum sucker, I use my real name, you're to gutless to do that.

And I opposed the war. You and your repug leaders support it. But
you never served. Never did it. You wanted others to die but your to
cowardly to get close to the wars you claim to love.

Bush, Cheney and Rove never served but claimed to support all the wars
we fought.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:06:18 AM12/31/09
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And Mortie Baby can't come up with a single fact, but that doesn't
stop him! He attacks with out fail and with out facts.

What a coward! What a hypocrite!

And here are the facts. Bush lied about Iraq. He lied about WMD's.
He did it knowingly and deliberately.

tankfixer

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:45:21 PM12/31/09
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In article <09eb161b-c92c-4f00-81d2-
6f857e...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com

Actually you use "a" name..
There is no proof it it yours at all..


>
> And I opposed the war. You and your repug leaders support it. But
> you never served. Never did it. You wanted others to die but your to
> cowardly to get close to the wars you claim to love.

You you claiming i never served in the military ?
Your rant is getting more incoherent the closer we get to New Years.
Is there a correlation ?

You claim to be against the "war"... Which war is that ?
Iraq ?
Afghanistan ?
Serbia ? Oh wait that was by your bully boy so it's ok..
Kosovo..? Opps another one...
Let me look around here... Ohh this is inconvenient.. Clinton lobbed
cruise missles into both Iraq AND Afghanistan AND Sudan..
Well how about Somalia, yeh that was a humanitarian mission.
No, wait, that got changed by the incoming president who wanted to be a
tough guy.. who was that ? hmm
Oh yeah, Clinton...

"Where did all the protestors go, long time passing..
Where did all the protestors go, long time ago."...."


So, where did the protestors go ?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:05:38 PM12/31/09
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Funny how I mention restroom and you start talking about sex.

[chuckle]

I was talking about the famous leftist moron Steve Kangas.

You really stepped in it there, ace.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:06:34 PM12/31/09
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In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Dec 30, 7:46�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Dec 30, 8:41�am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. �Woops, my
>> >> >bad, he didn't. �Along with a lot of dems.
>>
>> >> [chuckle] Obama became a Senator in 2005.
>> >> Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[59]
>>
>> >> Iraq War began 2003.
>>
>> >> The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq,[37] The Second
>> >> Gulf War[38] or Operation Iraqi Freedom,[39] is an ongoing[40]
>> >> military campaign which began on March 20, 2003,
>>
>> >> Are ALL you leftists so fucking dumb?
>>
>> >> >The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied. �
>>
>> >> The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
>> >> the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.
>>
>> >I didn't and tens of millions of Americans knew a repug lie when they
>> >hear it. �Bush lied. �Repeatedly.
>>
>> You have no idea when Obama even became a Senator, you stupid fucking
>> twit. Nobody cares what you claim to know and not know.
>
>Sorry to prove you wrong.

If you ever managed it. Tell us again how Senator Obama didn't vote
for the Iraq War.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:07:42 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 12:45 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <09eb161b-c92c-4f00-81d2-
> 6f857eb08...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com

Too gutless to use his real name. Too gutless to serve his country.
And too honest to claim that his party, the party he slavishly
follows, is led by draft dodgers.

tankfixer

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:22:52 PM12/31/09
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In article <1d893180-a596-4ce2-bd59-
20776c...@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

Right there in the headers "Kevin"
Are you too stupid to find it ?

> Too gutless to serve his country.

Care to match TIS "Kevin" ?
Come on boy, step up and tell us how many years you have served your
country voluntarily..

> And too honest to claim that his party, the party he slavishly
> follows, is led by draft dodgers.

Your rant is getting more incoherent the closer we get to New Years.

Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:28:15 AM1/1/10
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On Dec 31 2009, 9:22 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <1d893180-a596-4ce2-bd59-
> 20776c0f3...@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

Right, you use your real name......

You served......sure........

And you support war after war while your buds run from ever serving.

When did Bush, Cheney or Rove ever serve? You are willing to support
these cowards. You were willing to slip a knife into the back of the
men and women who served this nation. Men like Kerry and Gore.

Kerry and Gore served. Bush, Cheney and Rove didn't.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:35:16 AM1/1/10
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In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:


>Kerry and Gore served. Bush, Cheney and Rove didn't.

Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Please give until we find a cure.

[chuckle]

tankfixer

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Jan 1, 2010, 12:40:41 PM1/1/10
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In article <024c29d7-51cd-4b6a-95a5-
146e8f...@g18g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com

right thre in my email.. conviently the portion in my gmail address
matches what my AKO email address is..

>
> You served......sure........

Actually it's present tense, but you are fogiven for your confusion..

>
> And you support war after war while your buds run from ever serving.
>
> When did Bush, Cheney or Rove ever serve? You are willing to support
> these cowards. You were willing to slip a knife into the back of the
> men and women who served this nation. Men like Kerry and Gore.
>
> Kerry and Gore served. Bush, Cheney and Rove didn't.

You claim to be against the "war"... Which war is that ?

Lookout

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:28:05 PM1/1/10
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:35:16 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kerry and Gore served. Bush, Cheney and Rove didn't.
>
>Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Yet you continue to mention Clinton


>
>Please give until we find a cure.
>
>[chuckle]

They just can't handle the truth.

Kevin Cunningham

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On Jan 1, 12:40 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <024c29d7-51cd-4b6a-95a5-
> 146e8fe71...@g18g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com

And you defend the draft evading repugs. Bush, Cheney and Rove evaded
the draft.

So go ahead, show us your lack of courage. Tell us how brave the
repugs are. The repugs who evaded the draft.

Kyle Schwitters

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Jan 1, 2010, 3:07:53 PM1/1/10
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Maybe Cheney recruited the recently-divorced pedophile to help Dick
revive old Bush lies!

tankfixer

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Jan 1, 2010, 4:52:58 PM1/1/10
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In article <6e73c483-c6fa-493f-ab19-67f3403d6181
@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

What's wrong ?
Can't stand the fact your Dear Leader is continuing all the policies you
claim you hate ?

Come on boy, man up. get out on the streets and protest Dear Leader..

Lookout

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Jan 1, 2010, 5:28:40 PM1/1/10
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:52:58 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

What policies did he claim to hate?
List please.

>Come on boy, man up. get out on the streets and protest Dear Leader..

We'll wait for that list.

tankfixer

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Morton Davis

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"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:024c29d7-51cd-4b6a...@g18g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...

You served......sure........

----
Bush served. When the fuck did Obama and six deferment Biden, FUCKTARD?


Lookout

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:23:23 AM1/2/10
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:16:43 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm sure this means something to you.

Kevin Cunningham

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Since when has Obama supported the "war in Iraq"? Since when has he
invaded another random country? Since when has he lied repeatedly
about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction?

Last month was the first month since the start of the war in Iraq that
there were no US fatalities. I thought you would cheer for that.

Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:11:33 AM1/2/10
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Bush never, ever served. Got that? When he found something better to
do, suck down more coke, he just walked away. There is no one in the
Alabama Guard, the Guard Bush should have reported to, who ever saw
Bush at a Guard meeting or serving in the Guard.

And you can't admit that Cheney and Rove served, they didn't. Loved
war, but they didn't want to be in one.

Face it, the upper reaches of your party are a group of cowards. Both
of my Ga. Repug Senators took the draft deferment way out of Vietnam,
they never served. But they love wars. Any old war will do.

tankfixer

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:44:54 AM1/2/10
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In article <4iptj5p6vjgr0365p...@4ax.com>,

Where DID all the war protestors go ?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:49:33 AM1/2/10
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In talk.politics.guns tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >"Where did all the protestors go, long time passing..
>> > Where did all the protestors go, long time ago."...."
>>
>> I'm sure this means something to you.
>
>Where DID all the war protestors go ?

There is a group of pathetic old geezers that hold up signs saying
"Honk if you like Peace" out in front the our legislature building,
but only if the weather is nice.

They must figure that asking people to honk their horns is one of the
most effective ways to bring about change. [chuckle]

tankfixer

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:52:36 AM1/2/10
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In article <e9a43085-336c-42b5-9f42-eb5aed725378
@k23g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

He never has. Yet he is not ending it.

> Since when has he invaded another random country?

Yemen...
Pakistan...

> Since when has he lied repeatedly about Iraq having weapons of mass
destruction?

That's just your BDS talking..


>
> Last month was the first month since the start of the war in Iraq that
> there were no US fatalities. I thought you would cheer for that.

I would cheer, if it were a true statement.
The facts are that 4 service members died in December and I mourn their
deaths just as I would any others.
What you meant to say is that there were no combat related deaths in
December.


tankfixer

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:38:26 PM1/2/10
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In article <55uuj55c3bd4790eq...@4ax.com>,
klausscha...@yahoo.com says...

They don't sound very committed...
"Honk if you LIKE peace ?"
Geez comeon..

Us army guys LOVE peace...

Gray Ghost

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:09:29 PM1/2/10
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.25a9408...@news.bytemine.net:

How about "fire for effect" if you like peace? Or isn't that term used
anymore?

--
Al Gore didn't invent the internet, but he did invent Global Warming.

"Hide the Decline"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

31,486 American scientists, including 9,029 with PhDs, don't agree the
science is settled.
http://www.petitionproject.org/

What it appears to be all about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEZszGJHbK4&feature=video_response

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:12:42 AM1/3/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:52:36 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

In good time.


>
>> Since when has he invaded another random country?
>
>Yemen...
>Pakistan...

Liar. Prove the US invaded.


>
>> Since when has he lied repeatedly about Iraq having weapons of mass
>destruction?
>
>That's just your BDS talking..

Didn't like the question, huh? That's your ass talking.


>
>
>>
>> Last month was the first month since the start of the war in Iraq that
>> there were no US fatalities. I thought you would cheer for that.
>
>I would cheer, if it were a true statement.
>The facts are that 4 service members died in December and I mourn their
>deaths just as I would any others.
>What you meant to say is that there were no combat related deaths in
>December.
>

It was in the news, dumbass. You're a clueless as Palin.

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:13:35 AM1/3/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:44:54 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Who are you talking about?

tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:17:40 AM1/3/10
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In article <er90k55pu5t8n5qcn...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

The war goes on in Iraq.
The war escalates in Afghanistan..
A war simmers in Yemen..
Yet there are no protesters in the streets demanding Obama end it,
calling him a warmonger and fascist..
Where did they go ?

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:36:13 AM1/3/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:17:40 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

That bush started for no reason

>The war escalates in Afghanistan..

That spent years chasing the wrong target

>A war simmers in Yemen..

"war"? We're not a war in Yemen

>Yet there are no protesters in the streets demanding Obama end it,
>calling him a warmonger and fascist..
>Where did they go ?

They have a president who WILL end it when he can.

Any other clarifications you need?

Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:16:29 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 2, 11:44 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4iptj5p6vjgr0365p0ul8s8d1s82kui...@4ax.com>,
> mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:16:43 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >In article <gntsj5dopc8n7l27uv3r1a4b2rclc39...@4ax.com>,
> > >mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:52:58 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>

We won, you lost.

No American death last month in Iraq, thank goodness!

Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:18:54 AM1/3/10
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We have not invaded Yemen or Pakistan. And Bush, in his State of the
Union speech said specifically that Iraq had weapons of mass
destruction and that Iraq had tried to buy yellow cake uranium from
Niger.

Another instance of the right wing lying through it's teeth.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:20:58 AM1/3/10
to
In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> Where DID all the war protestors go ?
>
>We won, you lost.

You won the opportunity for Obama to send more troops to the Middle
East?

Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:21:00 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 12:17 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <er90k55pu5t8n5qcnnig17j7em6ms0s...@4ax.com>,
> mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:44:54 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>

> > wrote:
>
> > >In article <4iptj5p6vjgr0365p0ul8s8d1s82kui...@4ax.com>,
> > >mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:16:43 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >In article <gntsj5dopc8n7l27uv3r1a4b2rclc39...@4ax.com>,
> > >> >mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > >> >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:52:58 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>

See, this is were you get into Bush related problems. You lied about
Bush. Now you are continuing to lie about were our troops are.

We haven't invaded Yemen or Pakistan. We invaded Iraq for no known
reason.

Stick to the facts.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:26:29 AM1/3/10
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In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>We invaded Iraq for no known
>reason.

What color is the sky in your world?

tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:14:26 PM1/3/10
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In article <0aa51b49-bf59-41bc-8c90-9758bf5f4c78
@r14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

Yet the wars did not end....
Was Dear Leader lying to you when he said he would end them ?

>
> No American death last month in Iraq, thank goodness!

Why do leftist lie ?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties_current.htm

tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:18:41 PM1/3/10
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In article <4df45142-ac16-44c5-9cec-4cc00e56dcd2@
3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

An invasion is not required to be waging war in a country.
It should be obvious to even a leftist like you that the US is
conducting combat operations in both those countries...


> And Bush, in his State of the
> Union speech said specifically that Iraq had weapons of mass
> destruction and that Iraq had tried to buy yellow cake uranium from
> Niger.
>
> Another instance of the right wing lying through it's teeth.

We arn't talking about Bush.. We are talking about Dear Leader and how
he sold you down the river to gain power..
When will you wake up and recognize the fact that he made promises that
he never intended to keep just to buy your vote.


tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:22:02 PM1/3/10
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In article <71eb24ff-a069-486e-98fe-e6c663590fb3
@t12g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...

There is no need for troops on the ground for there to be a war.
Ask Serbia...

>
> We haven't invaded Yemen or Pakistan. We invaded Iraq for no known
> reason.
>
> Stick to the facts.

The facts are the war protestors are gone..
So much for their moral outrage..

tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:22:14 PM1/3/10
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In article <ood1k51gmkoa69cct...@4ax.com>,
klausscha...@yahoo.com says...

Rose....

tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:36:42 PM1/3/10
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In article <cma1k5h16fsn94fc8...@4ax.com>,

Catch up here friend, we are asking when Dear Leader will keep his
promise.
And why the protesters are not holding him to it..

>
> >The war escalates in Afghanistan..
> That spent years chasing the wrong target

Who do you think was being "chased" ?



> >A war simmers in Yemen..
> "war"? We're not a war in Yemen

Your fellow travelers would disagree with you

"Obama ordered US air strikes on Yemen
US President Barack Obama personally issued the order for US air strikes
in Yemen last Thursday which killed scores of civilians, including women
and children." ....
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/dec2009/yeme-d21.shtml


"CBS News has confirmed that U.S. warplanes made airstrikes yesterday on
suspected al Qaeda positions in Yemen. "
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/18/world/main5997532.shtml


Declaring War on Yemen? Assassinations, Air Strikes, and Al Qaeda
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/12/24-1

>
> >Yet there are no protesters in the streets demanding Obama end it,
> >calling him a warmonger and fascist..
> >Where did they go ?
>
> They have a president who WILL end it when he can.

So he is unwilling to win...
Sad..

>
> Any other clarifications you need?

No, you continue to be a tool..
Carry on

Morton Davis

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"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:0aa51b49-bf59-41bc...@r14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...

We won, you lost.

Won what? The "war" goes on. Where are the war protesters?

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 3, 2010, 2:58:17 PM1/3/10
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.25aa756...@news.bytemine.net:

> In article <cma1k5h16fsn94fc8...@4ax.com>,
> mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:17:40 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <er90k55pu5t8n5qcn...@4ax.com>,
>> >mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>> >

>> >The war goes on in Iraq.
>> That bush started for no reason
>
> Catch up here friend, we are asking when Dear Leader will keep his
> promise.


What was the reason for the quagmire war
against Iraq, again??


"We have high confidence that they have weapons
of mass destruction. That is what this war was
about and it is about."
White House Press Briefing
April 10, 2003



>
>>
>> >The war escalates in Afghanistan..
>> That spent years chasing the wrong target
>
> Who do you think was being "chased" ?


It certainly wasn't Bin Laden.


CIA unit that hunted bin Laden closed

July 5, 2006
AP
NEW YORK - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit
that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden
and his top lieutenants, The New York Times reported in its
Tuesday edition.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13699308/


Mitchell Holman

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:00:06 PM1/3/10
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.25aa704...@news.bytemine.net:

> . �They haven't that


Was your Dear Leader lying when the started the
Quagmire Wars?

Opps, never mind. We already know that one....


"We found the weapons of mass destruction."
George Bush, 5/31/03

vs.....

"It turns out that we have not found weapons
of mass destruction."
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Oct. 4, 2004.


Mitchell Holman

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:02:26 PM1/3/10
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.25aa721...@news.bytemine.net:

> In article <71eb24ff-a069-486e-98fe-e6c663590fb3
> @t12g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...
>>
>> On Jan 3, 12:17�am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <er90k55pu5t8n5qcnnig17j7em6ms0s...@4ax.com>,
>> > mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>

>> See, this is were you get into Bush related problems. You lied about
>> Bush. Now you are continuing to lie about were our troops are.
>
> There is no need for troops on the ground for there to be a war.
> Ask Serbia...
>


Is the US at war with every country it ever bombed?

List of countries the USA has bombed since World War II:


China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Libya 1986
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991-2002
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Croatia 1994 (of Serbs at Krajina)
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998 (airliner)
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001-02


tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:13:44 PM1/3/10
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In article <0LadneIzIYZ8Q93W...@mchsi.com>,
anti...@go.com says...

Except he was lying about the no American deaths bit...

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:56:26 PM1/3/10
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That's not what he said. You're lying again.

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:57:27 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:14:26 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

They will end. You're just mad it's not ending on YOUR time table. To
bad...YOU lost the election.

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:02:37 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:18:41 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

So what you're pissed about is the fact that YOUR definition of
invasion isn't the same as someone else's? Is that it?

>It should be obvious to even a leftist like you that the US is
>conducting combat operations in both those countries...

So is that your definition of invasion? If so then we invaded hundreds
of countries in the last 50 years. No historian in their right mind
agrees with you.

>> And Bush, in his State of the
>> Union speech said specifically that Iraq had weapons of mass
>> destruction and that Iraq had tried to buy yellow cake uranium from
>> Niger.
>>
>> Another instance of the right wing lying through it's teeth.

Then prove it.


>
>We arn't talking about Bush.. We are talking about Dear Leader and how
>he sold you down the river to gain power..

It's YOUR opinion he sold something.

>When will you wake up and recognize the fact that he made promises that
>he never intended to keep just to buy your vote.
>

Would you like me to list bush lies? Is that it?

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:03:59 PM1/3/10
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Ok..you got him on that one.
We invaded Iraq on lies from the bush administration.
Now ignore that fact. You haven't to because you can't handle the
truth.

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:05:41 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:22:02 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Which fucks up YOUR definition of invasion.



>> We haven't invaded Yemen or Pakistan. We invaded Iraq for no known
>> reason.
>>
>> Stick to the facts.

He die. You can't handle the truth.


>
>The facts are the war protestors are gone..
>So much for their moral outrage..

You don't control them.
And you end with your fucked up opinion which is worthless.

Lookout

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:08:12 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:36:42 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

When it happens.

>And why the protesters are not holding him to it..

Talk to them. No one here speaks for them.


>>
>> >The war escalates in Afghanistan..
>> That spent years chasing the wrong target
>
>Who do you think was being "chased" ?

You have to ask?


>
>> >A war simmers in Yemen..
>> "war"? We're not a war in Yemen
>
>Your fellow travelers would disagree with you

So you now speak for them?

>
>"Obama ordered US air strikes on Yemen
>US President Barack Obama personally issued the order for US air strikes
>in Yemen last Thursday which killed scores of civilians, including women
>and children." ....
>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/dec2009/yeme-d21.shtml
>
>
>"CBS News has confirmed that U.S. warplanes made airstrikes yesterday on
>suspected al Qaeda positions in Yemen. "
>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/18/world/main5997532.shtml
>
>
>Declaring War on Yemen? Assassinations, Air Strikes, and Al Qaeda
>http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/12/24-1
>
>>
>> >Yet there are no protesters in the streets demanding Obama end it,
>> >calling him a warmonger and fascist..
>> >Where did they go ?
>>
>> They have a president who WILL end it when he can.
>
>So he is unwilling to win...

Nope. Wrong again.

>Sad..
You have been since he won.


>
>>
>> Any other clarifications you need?
>
>No, you continue to be a tool..
>Carry on

You got tooled again.

tankfixer

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:47:32 PM1/3/10
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In article <tob2k5dsjc7ek1ih3...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

The issue is not invasion. it is war..

tankfixer

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:05:42 AM1/4/10
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In article <olb2k5dp28mmaqgm0...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

Really...

You might want to consult with HQ before you fling those lies..

Obama Iraq troop pullout too slow, anti-war crowd says
By Michael Saul / New York Daily News
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latest-news/obama-iraq-troop-pullout-
too-slow-anti-war-crowd-says

Obama's Retreat on Iraq
Whatever happened to the antiwar candidate?
Steve Chapman | March 2, 2009
http://reason.com/archives/2009/03/02/obamas-retreat-on-iraq

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:05:40 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> On Dec 30, 7:45 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 5:36 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> In talk.politics.guns "AIG Ball-less Repugs" <argbarfb...@go.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2olmj51f8p8qftdk9...@4ax.com...

>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> So Obama voted for our stupid, immoral invasion of Iraq. Woops, my
>>>>>>> bad, he didn't. Along with a lot of dems.
>>>>>> [chuckle] Obama became a Senator in 2005.
>>>>>> Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[59]
>>>>>> Iraq War began 2003.
>>>>>> The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq,[37] The Second
>>>>>> Gulf War[38] or Operation Iraqi Freedom,[39] is an ongoing[40]
>>>>>> military campaign which began on March 20, 2003,
>>>>>> Are ALL you leftists so fucking dumb?
>>>>>>> The fact that you're to scared to admit is that Bush lied.
>>>>>> The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
>>>>>> the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.
>>>>> Untrue. Richard Clarke warned the 'party boy' Bush but Bush was retarded
>>>>> and dismissed Clark as one of those, "Clinton peoples".
>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22231-2004Mar24.html
>>>> [chuckle] Are you too fucking stupid to even read what you're replying
>>>> to?
>>>> [from your link]
>>>> The White House authorized identifying Clarke as the official who
>>>> anonymously gave a background briefing for reporters in 2002 that
>>>> included positive comments about Bush's anti-terrorism strategies.
>>>> The fact is that you assholes are too stupid to admit you AND Bush had
>>>> the same data and came to the SAME conclusions.
>>> Notice the above pig can't deal with the fact that hypocrite Rove
>> Notice that the leftist thug is so fucking stupid he's trying to tell
>> us Obama didn't vote for the Iraq War, not knowing that he wasn't even
>> a Senator then.
>>
>> Then he attempts to bring up Rove in a feeble attempt to divert
>> attention from this fact.
>>
>> Time for you to take your bottle of Jack Daniel and find Richard
>> Scaife's restroom isn't it? [chuckle]
>
> Want'a talk homo's? Let's talk some Larry Craig, the repug from Idaho
> who liked to get sucked off in airport mens rooms. Or how about Jeff
> Gannon, Junior Reporter, who was hired by you, and let into the inner
> White House by people like you except no one will report why. Or
> there was child molester and hom Foley.
>
> And now Rove, the Mr. Moral of the repug party is getting his second
> divorce. This is while repugs are accusing we dems of all sorts of
> immoral things, but Rove is getting a divorce, right now and you say
> that getting a divorce is immoral. So attack Rove.
>
> Face it, repugs love closeted homos. It suits them to a T, more fun
> parties.

You seem to be fascinated with homo's, kevieboy. But then you did say
you thought Husein was handsome.

Barack Hussein Obama...mmm mmmm mmm
Send HIM to Pakistan to fight Osama...mmm mmm mmm

Simple-minded lying dummycrats (the party that birthed the KKK) and
liberals...morons electing morons.

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:09:49 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:

> And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs. They haven't that
> guts to take on little 'ole me. They haven't the guts to use their
> real names. Most of them have run from serving their nation although
> they approve of every war we have fought.

And tell us again, Kevieboy...oh wait, you never did tell us, but just
when did you run down to the recruiting office and sign up to bravely
serve in our fine military? What was your rank, Kevieboy?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>
> Bush, Cheney and Rove the Immoral ran from the Vietnam war. So did a
> bunch of repugs who appear on this NG.

See above.
>
> How do they feel when they pass by a VA Hospital? How do they feel
> when they pass a military cemetery.

See above.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a complete simple-minded lib hypocrite you are, Kevieboy.

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:12:14 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> On Dec 30, 7:22 pm, "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>> On Dec 30, 5:29 pm, Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <25kmj5pdgqf2q7n91sm9gt8g6jqrg2q...@4ax.com>,
>>>> klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com says...
>>>>> In talk.politics.guns "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This was my favorite part....
>>>>>>> Clinton brought us a world united
>>>>>> Feel better Kevvie, now that you've let your nutbag freak-flag fly?
>>>> I was going to ask him who had more undeclared wars...
>>> And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs. They haven't that
>>> guts to take on little 'ole me. They haven't the guts to use their
>>> real names. Most of them have run from serving their nation although
>>> they approve of every war we have fought.
>>> Bush, Cheney and Rove the Immoral ran from the Vietnam war. So did a
>>> bunch of repugs who appear on this NG.
>>> How do they feel when they pass by a VA Hospital? How do they feel
>>> when they pass a military cemetery.
>> Damn, when you lose it, you REALLY lose it, don't you Kevvie? <snicker>
>
> Come on scum, show us your patriotic side, show us the side of the
> past administration, Bush, Cheney and Rove never served their
> country. And, gee, they loved to bray about their patriotism.
>
> See, gutless, you approve of war but you repugs don't serve.
>
> Yeah, it must hurt you to see a VA hospital full of the wounded that
> your policies created.

And tell us again, Kevieboy...oh wait, you never did tell us, but just
when did you run down to the recruiting office and sign up to bravely
serve in our fine military? What was your rank, Kevieboy?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:13:17 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:

> On Dec 30, 8:59 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <19050b9a-faea-4463-a2c3-
>> 34d320f85...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com
>> says...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <25kmj5pdgqf2q7n91sm9gt8g6jqrg2q...@4ax.com>,
>>>> klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com says...
>>>>> In talk.politics.guns "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This was my favorite part....
>>>>>>> Clinton brought us a world united
>>>>>> Feel better Kevvie, now that you've let your nutbag freak-flag fly?
>>>> I was going to ask him who had more undeclared wars...
>>> And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs. They haven't that
>>> guts to take on little 'ole me. They haven't the guts to use their
>>> real names. Most of them have run from serving their nation although
>>> they approve of every war we have fought.
>> You can read my real name in the headers fuckwit..
>> I think you are smart enough to find it.
>>
>> Since service is important to you how long did you volunteer for ?
>> Did you manage to finish it or did you get shown the door ?
>>
>> So care to answer the query ?
>> How many undeclared wars did CLinton engage in ?
>>
>> It's obvious the question upsets you since you attacked me instead of
>> answering it.
>> So go ahead..
>> Care to answer ?
>>
>
> See, scum sucker, I use my real name, you're to gutless to do that.
>
> And I opposed the war. You and your repug leaders support it. But
> you never served. Never did it. You wanted others to die but your to
> cowardly to get close to the wars you claim to love.
>
> Bush, Cheney and Rove never served but claimed to support all the wars
> we fought.

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:14:15 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> On Dec 31, 12:45 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <09eb161b-c92c-4f00-81d2-
>> 6f857eb08...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com
>> Actually you use "a" name..
>> There is no proof it it yours at all..
>>
>>
>>
>>> And I opposed the war. You and your repug leaders support it. But
>>> you never served. Never did it. You wanted others to die but your to
>>> cowardly to get close to the wars you claim to love.
>> You you claiming i never served in the military ?
>> Your rant is getting more incoherent the closer we get to New Years.
>> Is there a correlation ?
>>
>> You claim to be against the "war"... Which war is that ?
>> Iraq ?
>> Afghanistan ?
>> Serbia ? Oh wait that was by your bully boy so it's ok..
>> Kosovo..? Opps another one...
>> Let me look around here... Ohh this is inconvenient.. Clinton lobbed
>> cruise missles into both Iraq AND Afghanistan AND Sudan..
>> Well how about Somalia, yeh that was a humanitarian mission.
>> No, wait, that got changed by the incoming president who wanted to be a
>> tough guy.. who was that ? hmm
>> Oh yeah, Clinton...
>>
>> "Where did all the protestors go, long time passing..
>> Where did all the protestors go, long time ago."...."
>>
>> So, where did the protestors go ?
>
> Too gutless to use his real name. Too gutless to serve his country.

> And too honest to claim that his party, the party he slavishly
> follows, is led by draft dodgers.

And tell us again, Kevieboy...oh wait, you never did tell us, but just

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:06:08 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
>
> We have not invaded Yemen or Pakistan. And Bush, in his State of the

> Union speech said specifically that Iraq had weapons of mass
> destruction and that Iraq had tried to buy yellow cake uranium from
> Niger.
>
> Another instance of the right wing lying through it's teeth.

Here you go, simple-minded dummycrats all, on Iraq.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman,
Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among
others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while
retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We
cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline
Albright, 1998

Uh-oh, this was even before Bush had a chance at telling his "lies"
about WMD's.

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and
some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he
has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb
18, 1998

Uh-oh, again, before Bush told his "lies".

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all
weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to
its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence
reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not
yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of
threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction,
ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond
today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be
emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

Even Slick Willy thought Hussein had WMD's, two years before Bush did.
Will you admit that Clinton was lying, kevieboy? Guess even a
simple-minded dummycrat President is capable of lying to the American
public, but we have now learned just how well they can lie with Hussein
in office.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including
Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his
involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear,
however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will
keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that
endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the
Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."
-- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back
in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry
into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving
those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in
April of 2003

Hey, this guy even *SAW* the evidence back in 1998. Uh, that was before
Bush became President in case you didn't realize that. Guess he was just
lying to us as well, right, kevieboy?

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our
allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades,
Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every
available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He
has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is
trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to
build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to
achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons
of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Bob Graham, December 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

Wow!! "We have know for *MANY* years". That would include years before
Bush took office. Just thought I would point that out in case simple
math escapes you, kevieboy.

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger,
that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass
destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy,
Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the
authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because
I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his
hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct
2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real,
but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that
war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert
Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build
those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these
weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we
had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." --
John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"After Operation Desert Fox" (December- 1998). Uh, wasn't Clinton in
charge then? Guess Clinton and Kerry were lying to the American public,
right?

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator,
leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He
presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently
prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America�s
response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of
mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations
Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq
disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam
Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It
has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry,
Jan 23, 2003

"So the threat of Sadam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real, but it is not new. IT HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE THE END OF THE
PERSIAN GULF WAR". Oops, was George W. Bush President at the end of the
Persian Gulf war? Don't think so.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological
weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for
the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that
the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of
grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the
development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat
to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons
inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

Uh-oh, Nasty Pelosi as well. Guess she was lying, right kevieboy?

There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can
obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that
is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we
have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development
of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam�s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a
very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons
before, both against Iraq�s enemies and against his own people. He is
working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial
vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and
U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration�s policy
towards Iraq, I don�t think there can be any question about Saddam�s
conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11
years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm
and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear
capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the
mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games
the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and
legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the
United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry
Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

Gee, I thought all you simple-minded dummycrats and libs on the left
were the smartest of smart people. The well educated elite. Sure looks
like Bush pulled the wool over the eyes of a whole lot of Ivy League
highly educated, highly intelligent, elite folks. I would think that
folks that were soooooo intelligent and sooooo well educated would be
able to completely see through some one as dumb as you claim Bush was,
and see his lies. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your Hussein world is crumbling all around you Kevieboy, and you can't
take it.

buzz

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Kevin Cunningham wrote:

> On Jan 1, 8:59 pm, "Morton Davis" <antike...@go.com> wrote:
>> "Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:024c29d7-51cd-4b6a...@g18g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 31 2009, 9:22 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article <1d893180-a596-4ce2-bd59-
>>> 20776c0f3...@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sms...@mindspring.com says...
>>> Right there in the headers "Kevin"
>>> Are you too stupid to find it ?
>>>> Too gutless to serve his country.
>>> Care to match TIS "Kevin" ?
>>> Come on boy, step up and tell us how many years you have served your
>>> country voluntarily..
>>>> And too honest to claim that his party, the party he slavishly
>>>> follows, is led by draft dodgers.
>>> Your rant is getting more incoherent the closer we get to New Years.
>>> Is there a correlation ?
>>> You claim to be against the "war"... Which war is that ?
>>> Iraq ?
>>> Afghanistan ?
>>> Serbia ? Oh wait that was by your bully boy so it's ok..
>>> Kosovo..? Opps another one...
>>> Let me look around here... Ohh this is inconvenient.. Clinton lobbed
>>> cruise missles into both Iraq AND Afghanistan AND Sudan..
>>> Well how about Somalia, yeh that was a humanitarian mission.
>>> No, wait, that got changed by the incoming president who wanted to be a
>>> tough guy.. who was that ? hmm
>>> Oh yeah, Clinton...
>>> "Where did all the protestors go, long time passing..
>>> Where did all the protestors go, long time ago."...."
>>> So, where did the protestors go ?
>> Right, you use your real name......
>>
>> You served......sure........

>>
>> And you support war after war while your buds run from ever serving.
>>
>> When did Bush, Cheney or Rove ever serve?
>>
>> ----
>> Bush served. When the fuck did Obama and six deferment Biden, FUCKTARD?
>
> Bush never, ever served. Got that? When he found something better to
> do, suck down more coke, he just walked away. There is no one in the
> Alabama Guard, the Guard Bush should have reported to, who ever saw
> Bush at a Guard meeting or serving in the Guard.
>
> And you can't admit that Cheney and Rove served, they didn't. Loved
> war, but they didn't want to be in one.
>
> Face it, the upper reaches of your party are a group of cowards. Both
> of my Ga. Repug Senators took the draft deferment way out of Vietnam,
> they never served. But they love wars. Any old war will do.

When did you ever serve, Kevieboy? Any old war will do.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:11:00 AM1/4/10
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Bush did, so did his father, Hussein and Biddy Biden didn't.

buzz

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:13:11 AM1/4/10
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
>
> Last month was the first month since the start of the war in Iraq that
> there were no US fatalities. I thought you would cheer for that.

Thanks to Bush and the surge which has made Iraq a safer place, which
Hussein and other simple-minded dummycrat ilk opposed.

Lookout

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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:05:42 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It's already been told to us. What the hell is wrong with you?


>
>Obama Iraq troop pullout too slow, anti-war crowd says
>By Michael Saul / New York Daily News
>http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latest-news/obama-iraq-troop-pullout-
>too-slow-anti-war-crowd-says

Who cares what Michael Moore or anyone else says? It's not up to them.
Just how thick are you?


>
>Obama's Retreat on Iraq
>Whatever happened to the antiwar candidate?
>Steve Chapman | March 2, 2009
>http://reason.com/archives/2009/03/02/obamas-retreat-on-iraq

Opinion piece. Means nothing.
It's up to Obama, no one else.
Don't like that? To bad.

Lookout

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:37:08 AM1/4/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:47:32 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

YOU brought up invasion, not me.

YOU don't define war for the US.

Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:05:07 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 2:58 pm, Mitchell Holman <noemailple...@comcast.net> wrote:
> tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote innews:MPG.25aa756...@news.bytemine.net:
>
> > In article <cma1k5h16fsn94fc8ske86vn8r709gt...@4ax.com>,
> > mrLook...@yahoo.com says...
>
> >> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:17:40 -0800, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com>

> >> wrote:
>
> >> >In article <er90k55pu5t8n5qcnnig17j7em6ms0s...@4ax.com>,
> >> >mrLook...@yahoo.com says...

>
> >> >The war goes on in Iraq.
> >> That bush started for no reason
>
> > Catch up here friend, we are asking when Dear Leader will keep his
> > promise.
>
>     What was the reason for the quagmire war
> against Iraq, again??
>
> "We have high confidence that they have weapons
> of mass destruction. That is what this war was
> about and it is about."
> White House Press Briefing
> April 10, 2003
>
>
>
> >> >The war escalates in Afghanistan..
> >> That spent years chasing the wrong target
>
> > Who do you think was being "chased" ?
>
>      It certainly wasn't Bin Laden.
>
> CIA unit that hunted bin Laden closed
>
> July 5, 2006
> AP
> NEW YORK - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit
> that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden
> and his top lieutenants, The New York Times reported in its
> Tuesday edition.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13699308/

So how many weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq? Zero,
nada, zilch, none.

WMD's is a sick hoax. The repugs figured they would find something.
They didn't. They invaded for no rational reason.

I may think you have a gun so I bop you over the head and search you.
You didn't. So I go to court and use that as a defense, what
happens? I go to jail.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Kevin Cunningham <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:


>So how many weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq? Zero,
>nada, zilch, none.
>
>WMD's is a sick hoax. The repugs figured they would find something.
>They didn't. They invaded for no rational reason.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies
is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including,
if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs."

Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and
others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his
weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and
nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War
status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and
is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop
longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our
allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the

mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible
to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as
Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."

-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are

confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and


biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course

to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein


because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear

weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have


always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."

-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"

-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to

terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that


if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his
capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying
to develop nuclear weapons."

-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."

-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a


particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to

miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to


his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass

destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Kevin Cunningham

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>
> You seem to be fascinated with homo's, kevieboy. But then you did say
> you thought Husein was handsome.
>

The shear fact that the repug party is the party to fully support
deviant sexual acts is enough. The fact that they paid for Foley's
election, the shear fact that they kept Larry Craig on as a repug and
the fact that no repug will discuss what Jeff Gannon was doing in the
bowels of the White House over a hundred times tells me that the
repugs have conflicted feeling about homos.

They use homos as their whipping boy but they are sooooo much fun at
parties.


Kevin Cunningham

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:15:22 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 1:09 am, buzz <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> > And this is the cowardice of the nut bag repugs.  They haven't that
> > guts to take on little 'ole me.  They haven't the guts to use their
> > real names.  Most of them have run from serving their nation although
> > they approve of every war we have fought.
>
> And tell us again, Kevieboy...oh wait, you never did tell us, but just
> when did you run down to the recruiting office and sign up to bravely
> serve in our fine military? What was your rank, Kevieboy?
> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> > Bush, Cheney and Rove the Immoral ran from the Vietnam war.  So did a
> > bunch of repugs who appear on this NG.
>
> See above.
>
>
>
> > How do they feel when they pass by a VA Hospital?  How do they feel
> > when they pass a military cemetery.
>
> See above.
>
> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> What a complete simple-minded lib hypocrite you are, Kevieboy.
>

I actively worked to end the war in Vietnam. I marched, I went to
meetings, I did what I could.

And you?

You, like most repug never served your country. And you won't answer
this, where were Bush, Cheney and Rove during Vietnam, a war they all
supported an didn't serve in.

And where were you? Coward.....

Does it even bother you that over 30,000 men and women were wounded in
Iraq?

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