Democrats Say No to Tort Reform That Would Save Billions
Eddie Haskell
Can't have that. Trial lawyers give big bucks to the democrats so no
healthcare savings on that front. Fuck you say the democrats, we gotta have
power, and at any cost.
CBO stands by estimate tort reform will save taxpayers billions
12/13/2009 7:47 PM By Chris Rizo
Douglas Elmendorf
WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)--The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
says it stands by its analysis that medial malpractice limits would save
American taxpayers billions of dollars.
-Eddie Haskell
US Army Veteran
http://phillylawyer.wordpress.com/
January 18, 2007
The Hypocrites of "Tort Reform"
Filed under: Blogroll, legal, politics - phillylawyer @ 8:57 pm
We all know that President Bush is a relentless advocate of "tort reform". But
did you know that in 1999, then Governor George W. Bush sued Enterprise
Rent-A-Car over a car accident involving daughter, Jenna? Although his insurance
would have covered the repair costs making a lawsuit unnecessary, Bush filed
suit against Enterprise, which had rented a car to someone with a suspended
license. For more details see: http://www.patridiots.com/000844.html.
Pennsylvania Senator, Rick Santorum is another big "tort reformer". Less well
known is that a Virginia jury awarded Senator Santorum's wife $350,000 in
damages on December 10, 1999. She charged that a chiropractor's negligence
caused her permanent back pain. Roll Call, a newspaper that covers Capitol Hill,
reported that Santorum testified that his wife might not be able to actively
campaign for him.
Throughout the trial, Santorum aides declined to comment. After the trial, they
issued a statement from the senator saying: "The court proceedings are a
personal family matter. I will not be offering any further public comments,
other than that I am not a party to the suit. But I am fully supportive of my
wife."
U.S. Senator Trent Lott, a famous proponent of caps on the amounts for which
people can sue, sued State Farm over its refusal to cover his Hurricane Katrina
property losses. Shouldn't there be a cap on the amount of damages he gets?
Prior to the storm Senator Lott has uttered the following gems: "I'm among many
Mississippi citizens who believe tort reform is needed." "It's sue, sue, sue.
That's not the answer."
Hurricane Katrina destroyed Lott's 154-year-old waterfront home in Pascagoula,
Mississippi. The house was worth $750,000. On the Senate floor Lott pounded his
fist and said homeowners along the Gulf Coast are fed up, warning that insurance
companies better do the right thing or there will be "hell to pay." State Farm
says the storm surge destroyed the home, and since Lott didn't have flood
insurance, he isn't entitled to coverage.
Query the basis for filing suit against his homeowner's insurance carrier for
flood damage, when a basic homeowner's policy does not, and never did, cover
flood damage.
It seems that when Trent "Humpty Dumpty" Lott files a lawsuit, it is not
considered "suing". "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a
scornful tone, "It means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
Pennsylvania Senate Majority Whip Jeffrey Piccola recently sued orthopedists for
medical malpractice. Senator Piccola is a co-sponsor of the Corman/Piccola bill
that seeks to drastically limit joint and several liability. It would limit the
liability of entities that have been proven to be at least partially culpable
for a harm. This would increase the risk that the financial burden of treating
an injury will fall upon the injured person.
In future e-newsletters, it will be the doctors' turn again. We'll explore the
concept of doctors and other "experts" who sell their opinions to the highest
bidder. We'll also investigate doctors who refuse to testify in court,
nothwithstanding their ethical obligation to the patient.
Editor's Note: I am not implicating all doctors and all politicians, just those
whose hypocrisy merits exposure.
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The rightwing douchebags didn't pass tort reform in 12 years of power. Why?
Because they are the ones benefitting from frivolous suits.
As usual, the Republicans have nothing to offer the American people, and Eddie's
ass is still pumping canal water. Now get back on your knees, Eddie, so I can
blow another load of splooge in your eager face.
fargo116
Felcher, malpractice costs represent less than half of 1% (0.46
percent of total health care expenditures) and malpractice settlements
have grown modestly with inflation. In fact, in states that have
adopted caps on jury awards, doctors are prescribing too many
aggressive and intensive treatments that increase costs, but don’t
improve outcomes. Take a look:
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/abstract/24/4/903
S. Olson
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> -Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"US Army Veteran" <c...@eddies.mouth> wrote in message
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> Not necessary. Republicans just need to stop with the frivolous lawsuits.
> http://phillylawyer.wordpress.com/
> January 18, 2007
> The Hypocrites of "Tort Reform"
> Filed under: Blogroll, legal, politics - phillylawyer @ 8:57 pm
> We all know that President Bush is a relentless advocate of "tort reform".
> But did you know that in 1999, then Governor George W. Bush sued
> Enterprise Rent-A-Car over a car accident involving daughter, Jenna?
> Although his insurance would have covered the repair costs making a
> lawsuit unnecessary, Bush filed suit against Enterprise, which had rented
> a car to someone with a suspended license.
Good for him. That was completely legitimate, but as a democrat you no more
know the difference than you know right from wrong. You people are totally
immoral. No moral compass whatsoever. Adrift with no moral oars at all.
Nothing.
Even nym hijacking is legitimate in your world.
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
> "US Army Veteran" <c...@eddies.mouth> wrote in messagenews:u2WVm.246534$Jb6.1...@news.usenetserver.com...
Why not? You Types do it.
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
"fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Damn, make shit up on the fly. See what I mean? No morals whatsoever.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/abstract/24/4/903
<chuckle>
That's total bullshit, Mrs. Olson. In states where caps have been placed
they have reduced costs associated with defensive medicine, and your bogus
figure doesn't take that into account, but you just keep on quoting from the
trial lawyer defense league and throwing billions in the shitter.
-Eddie Haskell
S. Olson
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fargo116
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Type the phrase 'forge posts' into the Google search engine for this
NG and you get 524 hits and nowhere near all of them are US.
S. Olson
fargo116
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
In other words, Felcher denies it. We should believe HIM instead. He
wants to cut something that amounts to one-half of one percent of
health care costs and thinks that''s significant. Sheesh. What more
can you expect from a guy who posts:
"I wipe my own ass, and with Scott toilet paper. Why? Because them
other brands just ain't worth a shit."
-Felcher,
'Global Warming is a LIE Climate change: this is the worst scientific
scandal of our generation'
Nov. 30, 2009
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
Damn, he just can't stop.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Still quoting from the democrat trial lawyer defense league pamphlet I see.
CBO stands by estimate tort reform will save taxpayers billions
12/13/2009 7:47 PM By Chris Rizo
Douglas Elmendorf
WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)--The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
says it stands by its analysis that medial malpractice limits would save
American taxpayers billions of dollars.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- President Barack Obama Saturday proposed an
additional $313 billion in cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and other programs to
pay for health care reforms expected to cost about $1 trillion over the next
decade.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/13/news/economy/Obama_health_Care.reut/index.htm
> What more
> can you expect from a guy who posts:
> "I wipe my own ass, and with Scott toilet paper. Why? Because them
> other brands just ain't worth a shit."
Oh, good. He's telling everyone how cleaver I am again.
> -Felcher,
> 'Global Warming is a LIE Climate change: this is the worst scientific
> scandal of our generation'
> Nov. 30, 2009
True, but I didn't say that, Mrs. Olson.
Now, which one of you went first, you or Crankston?
Mrs. Olson: The word is 'm-o-p-p-i-n-g,' you fucking idiot.
Eddie Haskell: Oh, yeah? Well, you're an idiot that never gets any.
Mrs. Olson: I don't? Gee, you better check your goat, Felcher. Because
Lamont and I got that a long time ago.
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
LOL....Health care reform will become a reality, Felcher. And there is
nothing you can do about it, except maybe pray for a Democrat to die
like GOP Cocksucker #311 did yesterday.
S. Olson
fargo116
Still copying the same post over and over and over, I see. Won't help
you.
That is not from any 'pamphlet' Festus. That is straight from the
Congressional Budget Office, Well Point, which insurers people and
says that jury awards are not driving up premiums and ecomomists.
In a state where this has already been done, Texas, it has some of the
most expensive health care in the country.
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
Damn, still can't stop.
You or Durbin either. It's the democrat way.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Deleting the facts over and over won't help you, Mrs. Olson
> That is not from any 'pamphlet' Festus. That is straight from the
> Congressional Budget Office, Well Point, which insurers people and
> says that jury awards are not driving up premiums and ecomomists.
No, this is what the CBO actually says and you have to keep deleting in
defense of the fact that democrats are in bed with trial lawyers that are
driving up medical costs so you have to parrot your DNC talking points.
CBO stands by estimate tort reform will save taxpayers billions
12/13/2009 7:47 PM By Chris Rizo
Douglas Elmendorf
WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)--The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
says it stands by its analysis that medial malpractice limits would save
American taxpayers billions of dollars.
> In a state where this has already been done, Texas, it has some of the
> most expensive health care in the country.
More illegals than any state in the country except CA, Mrs. Olson.
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
We won and think government can do something for people. You lost and
pray for people to die. It's as simple as that.
Got it?
S. Olson
fargo116
LOL....what you are talking about is one-half of one percent on health
care, Felcher. You think we should waste our time on .5%?.
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
No, democrats won and now want to put you under their thumb like the
authoritarians that they are.
> You lost and pray for people to die. It's as simple as that.
Are you still going to cut Medicare for the old to fund your healthcare, or
did that bastard Lieberman stop you?
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Aside from the fact that your figure is a typical DNC lie designed to cover
the fact that they are in bed with the trial lawyers, how is saving billions
a waste of time?
CBO stands by estimate tort reform will save taxpayers billions
12/13/2009 7:47 PM By Chris Rizo
Douglas Elmendorf
WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)--The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
says it stands by its analysis that medial malpractice limits would save
American taxpayers billions of dollars.
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
We won, you lost. Get over it.
LMAO!
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
No retort.
I win the debate.
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
You couldn't win the first play of a three-card monte game, Felcher.
What you never tell us is how emocrats plan to put you 'under their
thumb' just because it will make health care affordable for people.
We won. You lost.
Get over it.
"I wipe my own ass, and with Scott toilet paper. Why? Because them
other brands just ain't worth a shit."
-Felcher,
'Global Warming is a LIE Climate change: this is the worst scientific
scandal of our generation'
Nov. 30, 2009
S. Olson
Lamont Cranston
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Illegal immigrants use the healthcare system much, much less than U.S.
citizens, Felcher. Everybody knows it except you.
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> -Eddie Haskell
fargo116
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I keep wondering what the number of illegal aliens in Texas has to do
with how much it costs. And I wonder how many American illegals use
the Mexican health care system.
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
Translation: Haskell keeps showing me how cost will go up because of more
government mandates but I will always ignore it because being a democrat is
a religion with me and Hussein my idol.
"Consider how Washington received the Congressional Budget Office's study
Monday of how Harry Reid's Senate bill will affect insurance costs, which by
any rational measure ought to have been a disaster for the bill. CBO found
that premiums in the individual market will rise by 10% to 13% more than if
Congress did nothing. Family policies under the status quo are projected to
cost $13,100 on average, but under ObamaCare will jump to $15,200. "
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703939404574567922598995730.html
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@Shadow.com> wrote in message
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Groan.. True or not, they get care and typically don't pay and that has to
be born by everyone else.
Furthermore, Obamacare will cover illegals because while provisions are
written into to the bill denying coverage to illegals, republican amendments
requiring to proof of citizenship were shot down twice by the democrats.
What does that tell you, Einstein?
Smoke and mirrors. Trickery. Nothing but trickery.
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
LOL....actually, Felcher has NEVER tried making the case that premiums
will go up because of health care reform until now.
> "Consider how Washington received the Congressional Budget Office's study
> Monday of how Harry Reid's Senate bill will affect insurance costs, which by
> any rational measure ought to have been a disaster for the bill. CBO found
> that premiums in the individual market will rise by 10% to 13% more than if
> Congress did nothing. Family policies under the status quo are projected to
> cost $13,100 on average, but under ObamaCare will jump to $15,200. "
That's from the Wall Street Journal editorial page, which is widely
known to be very conservative. It has things wrong too. The premiums
that WILL rise are the ones in what is called 'the nongroup market,'
which accounts for 17% of the total healthcare market. And even THOSE
are actually going to be LOWERED because of federal subsidies. If the
subsidies weren't there, they'd rise. Felcher doesn't tell you that.
S. Olson
Tazmanian Devil
"Eddie Haskell"
..is an indoctrinated parrot who runs around yelling "Tort Reform!," as if that
is the answer to our health insurance woes. Anybody who looks up the stats, and
has a rudimentary knowledge of arithmetic knows how insignificant an improvement
tort reform would bring. It would also serve to prevent bona fide victims of
botched medical procedures from getting any justice. But as usual, if it's
anti-consumer, the GOP likes it.
All businesses have to carry some kind of liability coverage, depending on what
they do. Doctors are paid well--they need to pay the cost of doing business like
everyone else.
Also, if we had single-payer, tort-reform wouldn't be an issue.
fargo116
> "Eddie Haskell"
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> ..is an indoctrinated parrot who runs around yelling "Tort Reform!," as if that
> is the answer to our health insurance woes.
Really. If you were trying to heat the house, 'Tort Reform' would be a
grean leaf in the fireplace.
S. Olson
Eddie Haskell
Groan.. I have already pointed out to you that premiums would go up but not
for some because the government will subsidize them. Can you not see the
insanity of that? They could leave it like it is and subsidize premiums and
as insane as that would be it would more sane than doing this. It's like
saying this bill will raise electricity rates, but not to worry, we'll help
you pay for it. Where does government money come from, Mrs. Olson, the tooth
fairy? This bill was supposed to REDUCE healthcare costs, not drive up them
only to subsidized. That's fuckin' crazy.
And we won't even talk about how this was supposed to reduce the deficit.
Utterly fuckin' ridiculous.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Tazmanian Devil" <my...@biteme.com> wrote in message
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> ..is an indoctrinated parrot who runs around yelling "Tort Reform!," as if
> that is the answer to our health insurance woes.
You're lying.
Fuck off.
> Anybody who looks up the stats, and has a rudimentary knowledge of
> arithmetic knows how insignificant an improvement tort reform would bring.
> It would also serve to prevent bona fide victims of botched medical
> procedures from getting any justice.
Another lie.
> But as usual, if it's anti-consumer, the GOP likes it.
The lie that it would only be so and so amount is a flat-out stupid fucking
argument on the face of it. Obviously, you are bought and paid for by ultra
RICH trial lawyers and the DNC.
CBO stands by estimate tort reform will save taxpayers billions
12/13/2009 7:47 PM By Chris Rizo
Douglas Elmendorf
WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)--The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
says it stands by its analysis that medial malpractice limits would save
American taxpayers billions of dollars.
Did you read that, shit for brains? Now, get down on your knees and go suck
a trail lawyer's cock because the DNC told you to with STUPID FUCKING
excuses for you to parrot because they are the democrat's cash cow.
I'm so SICK of you sycophants holding back progress because the democrats
have you BOUGHT.
You couldn't think for yourself if you had to, nor do you want to. The ONLY
thing you know is to take the democrat's corrupt side NO MATTER WHAT.
> All businesses have to carry some kind of liability coverage, depending on
> what they do. Doctors are paid well--they need to pay the cost of doing
> business like everyone else.
And they pass those exorbitant costs on to you, dumbfuck.
> Also, if we had single-payer, tort-reform wouldn't be an issue.
That's because you'd have no legal recourse against the government,
shit-head.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
I'd suck billions from democrat candidates across the nation so they tell
you what to think and believe. Too damned bad for our country, healthcare
and human lives.
Democrats gotta have power. Dear sweet god democrats gotta have POWER.
Fuck people.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
What do you do, close your eyes when you read my posts, or just your mind?
> And I wonder how many American illegals use
> the Mexican health care system.
Yeah, Mexico has real problem illegal American immigration.
My god..
-Eddie Haskell
fargo116
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
We already HAVE power, Felcher.
And there is nothing you can do about it.
You're helpless! HELPLESS!
LMAO!
S. Olson
fargo116
Well, let's face it, Felcher. Anybody who boasts about what kind of
toilet paper he uses--as you do--is really not the kind of person you
want to take seriously.
> > And I wonder how many American illegals use
> > the Mexican health care system.
>
> Yeah, Mexico has real problem illegal American immigration.
Do they really? What are the numbers, Felcher? I was just asking what
they are.
> My god..
Felcher has not been told what to say in this case.
LOL
"I wipe my own ass, and with Scott toilet paper. Why? Because them
other brands just ain't worth a shit."
-Felcher,
'Global Warming is a LIE Climate change: this is the worst scientific
scandal of our generation'
Nov. 30, 2009
S. Olson
Lamont Cranston
More parrot squawks from Felcher. Medical malpractice liability amounts
to about 1.5 percent of health care costs.
http://washingtonindependent.com/55535/tort-reform-unlikely-to-cut-health-care-costs
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The health economists and independent legal experts who study the issue,
however, don't believe that's true. They say that malpractice liability
costs are a small fraction of the spiraling costs of the U.S. health
care system, and that the medical errors that malpractice liability
tries to prevent are themselves a huge cost- both to the injured
patients and to the health care system as a whole.
"It's really just a distraction," said Tom Baker, a professor at the
University of Pennsylvania Law School and author of "The Medical
Malpractice Myth." "If you were to eliminate medical malpractice
liability, even forgetting the negative consequences that would have for
safety, accountability, and responsiveness, maybe we'd be talking about
1.5 percent of health care costs. So we're not talking about real money.
It's small relative to the out-of-control cost of health care."
fargo116
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> The health economists and independent legal experts who study the issue,
> however, don't believe that's true. They say that malpractice liability
> costs are a small fraction of the spiraling costs of the U.S. health
> care system, and that the medical errors that malpractice liability
> tries to prevent are themselves a huge cost- both to the injured
> patients and to the health care system as a whole.
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> "It's really just a distraction," said Tom Baker, a professor at the
> University of Pennsylvania Law School and author of "The Medical
> Malpractice Myth." "If you were to eliminate medical malpractice
> liability, even forgetting the negative consequences that would have for
> safety, accountability, and responsiveness, maybe we'd be talking about
> 1.5 percent of health care costs. So we're not talking about real money.
> It's small relative to the out-of-control cost of health care."
Felcher thinks we should waste or time on piddly-ass crap because the
Fat Junkie told him to.
LOL
S. Olson