Infant mortality statistics ...
Barry Schier
Not appearing in this article is one statistic appearing year after
year in the C.I.A. World Factbook: The infant mortality statistics of
Cuba -- not a "developed country", but where health care is FREE for
all citizens and not currently part of a Congressional debate /
bickering-session about how much money money people should have to pay
insurance programs for health care and where there are no "really
large differences in infant mortality rates by race and ethnicity" --
are (slightly) better than those of the United States.
-- Barry Schier
{Article excerpt}
05/13/08 Time Magazine
The U.S. ranks rather poorly compared to most developed countries.
NCHS publishes a book each year called Health, United States, which
has international rankings, and in the latest [edition], which ranks
data based on
the 2004 data year, the U.S. ranked 29th in the world in infant
mortality.
Following a dramatic fall through the 20th century, the U.S. infant
mortality rate — the proportion of babies who die before they reach
their first birthday — has leveled off at just under seven deaths per
1,000 live births. That's a much higher rate than in other parts of
the developed world. Across the European Union, for example, fewer
than five in 1,000 babies die before they turn one. And in some stand-
out countries like Japan, Singapore, Sweden and Norway, the proportion
of babies who die is less than half that in the United States.
There are also really large differences in infant mortality rates by
race and ethnicity. For 2004, the overall [U.S.] infant mortality rate
was 6.78; but for non-Hispanic black mothers it was 13.60. It was also
fairly high for American Indian mothers: 8.45. For non-Hispanic
whites, it was 5.66. For Hispanics it was 5.55. And the lowest was for
Asian or Pacific Islander mothers, which was 4.67. So there's a huge
range there. The rate for non-Hispanic black mothers was 2.4 times the
rate for Hispanic or non-Hispanic white mothers.
PL
> {Comment}
> Not appearing in this article is one statistic appearing year after
> year in the C.I.A. World Factbook: The infant mortality statistics of
> Cuba
where the CIA reproduces the data from the UN.
No independent verification.
Official Cuban daily goes critical, challenges govt's job statistics
Web posted at: 11/26/2007 2:6:23
Source ::: REUTERS
HAVANA � An official Cuban newspaper questioned government claims of 2
per cent unemployment yesterday in the latest challenge to government
rhetoric begun under acting president Raul Castro more than a year ago.
The article in the Union of Young Communists' "Rebel Youth" newspaper
questioned government claims that almost all young people are working or
in school.
The Union of Young Communists is the youth wing of the ruling Communist
party. "The figures never reflect reality," said the article, which
concluded that those involved in ensuring youth are working or studying
should "tear themselves away from illusory figures" and take another
look. Among numerous examples provided by the two-page article was a
report that around 16,000 youth in eastern Santiago were unemployed in
2006, when a survey by social workers put the figure at 29,000.
Eastern Granma province claimed only 2 per cent of its population as
unemployed in 2006, or around 2,000 people, while another social worker
survey found the number of unemployed under 45 was 37,000, the newspaper
said, including housewives and 13,000 men.
Raul Castro, since temporarily taking over for his ailing brother Fidel
Castro 16 months ago, has urged the official media to be more critical,
blasted bureaucrats for inaccurate reporting and encouraged debate among
ordinary citizens over the country's social and economic ills.
Since then retail-level pilfering and fraud, problems with the free
health care and education systems, a lack of entertainment for young
people and worker apathy are some subjects that have captured the
attention of the usually docile official media.
Fidel Castro, 81, suffering from an undisclosed intestinal ailment, has
undergone various operations since stepping aside. He regularly comments
on international and domestic affairs through writings published and
broadcast by all media, but has not appeared in public. Cuba launched a
series of programmes to reincorporate high school drop-outs into society
in 2001.
Raul Castro:
"The Revolution cannot lie," he said in comments published by the
Communist Party newspaper Granma. "This isn't saying that there have
been comrades who have lied, but the imprecision, inexact data,
consciously or unconsciously masked, can no longer continue."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/27657
Medical:
from www.promedmail.org archive number 19970627.1390
"People emigrating from Cuba or visiting Cuba, including
international
health representatives, have reported that it is in line with Cuban
Government policy to report mild cases of dengue as "influenza".
Cuban
physicians have confirmed allegations that some disease reporting in
Cuba is politically influenced"
"WHO and the PanAmerican Health Organization (WHO's Regional Office
for
the Western Hemisphere) cannot report to the world without clearance
from the Cuban government."
Michael Thiede is Senior Research Officer in the Health Economics Unit
of the Department of Public Health and Primary Health Care at the
University of Cape Town, South Africa. He writes: " Last year I spent
three months in Cuba. I am still motivated to put together some papers
on Cuban health care. Unfortunately, however, during my stay I was
only able to get hold of the official statistical data and find them
not especially trustworthy.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/wais/cuba_healthcarestatistics62202.html
(link now broken)
"Controlling AIDS in Cuba"
New England Journal of Medicine (09/21/89) Vol. 321, No. 12, P.
Gordon, Antonio M.
Cuba's approach to the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) is
unique. Cuba has screened about 4 million persons and plans to screen
the entire population; they have reported a seropositive rate
comparable
to that of Oklahoma. This articles disputes that fact and states that
the HIV epidemic prevalence rate in Cuba is more like that of New
York
due to a 500% increase in gonorrhea in the past 10 years, a
contingent
of 380,000 in Africa since 1975 and more than a 1/4 of a million
Africa
students, professionals and international activists in residence
since
1960. Cuba officially recognized the HIV infection in 1987, but
testimony given by physicians escaping from Cuba state that the 1st
cases seen were in the late 70's in community hospitals. AIDS is not
only a health problem in Cuba but has become a political problem
since
the AIDS campaign is under the direction of the State Security and
not
the Ministry of Health. Cuba's lifelong isolation of the sick is
based
on a micro-ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay) that was
developed
in Cuba but never validated anywhere else. The confinement approach
might have been valuable in the 1970's but is no longer applicable
today.
http://www.popline.org/docs/0852/271381.html
DOCTORS: Cuba may have serious AIDS problem
Miami Herald - FRI December 18 1987
http://ww2.aegis.org/news/mh/1987/MH871201.html
"AIDS in Cuba"
Lancet (08/26/89) Vol. 2, No. 8661, P. 512
"William Anderson of St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Boston writes that he
believes Cuba has not been candid in its reporting of HIV infection
and
AIDS cases to the World Health Organization. "
This letter to the editor argues that Cuba's draconian policy on
Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS), including universal
testing
and quarantine of seropositive individuals, belies its claim to have
a
very low level of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) seroprevalence.
A
1980 study of Cuban refugees showed 45-fold greater prevalence than
the
1988 study in Cuba by R. Bayer and C. Healton. The Caribbean has high
rates of AIDS and higher rates of HIV seropositivity. Yet, by
September,
1986, Cuba had reported only 1 case of clinical AIDS, in a population
of
10.2 million, of whom 60% are under 30. 12% of the men under 30 had
served in Angola where no seroprevalence figures exist. But Anglo can
be
assumed to share the high risk of its neighbors and the risk to Cuban
soldiers in urban centers and to combat casualties using unscreened
local blood supplies must be higher than cuba is admitting. The
incidence of other sexually-transmitted diseases has increased. If
HIV
prevalence in Cuba equals or exceeds that of its neighbors, permanent
quarantine is not a sufficient containment strategy. Countries should
be
candid in their reporting on the AIDS epidemic so that the World
Health
Organization can mobilize the necessary resources to fight it.
http://www.popline.org/docs/0852/058436.html
Sociedad
Un falso primer lugar
Sin la existencia de fuentes independientes, �c�mo los organismos
internacionales pueden certificar los 'logros' cubanos en salud y
nutrici�n?
http://cubadata.blogspot.com/2006/06/un-falso-primer-lugar.html
"Official statistics indicate that by one measure -- life expectancy
--
Cuba is doing quite well: The average Cuban male lives 75.2 years,
compared with the American male's 74.5.
But Juan A. Asensio, a trauma surgeon at the University of Miami and a
Cuban American who has studied the island's medical system, questions
first whether such figures can be trusted."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/24669
Other examples of Cuban statistical data rejected by international
organizations:
On the economy:
Official Cuban daily goes critical, challenges govt's job statistics
Web posted at: 11/26/2007 2:6:23
Source ::: REUTERS
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=World_News&subsection=Americas&month=November2007&file=World_News200711262623.xml
"Economists outside Cuba preface their research papers with warnings
that the statistics are untrustworthy -- there are no reliable
sources."
The Economist, Jan 6, 2007
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/27963
CEPAL and other international organizations have rejected Castro's
economical "data"
Cuba: Su Crecimiento Econ�mico. �Realidad o Ficci�n?
2007-02-15 www.cubasindical.org
Joel Brito
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/28862
OSCAR ESPINOSA CHEPE
Cuba, cifras virtuales
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/28526
�POR QU� NO PODEMOS CREER QUE LA ECONOM�A CUBANA HA CRECIDO UN 12,5%
EN
2006? (1)
2007-07-27.
El�as Amor Bravo, Economista, ULC
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/32622
�POR QU� NO PODEMOS CREER QUE LA ECONOM�A CUBANA HA CRECIDO UN 12,5%
EN
2006? (2)
2007-07-28.
El�as Amor Bravo, Economista, ULC
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/32665
"Communist-run Cuba calculates its economic growth rate using a unique
method that adds in free education, medical care and other social
services provided by the state.
Under that methodology, economic growth has revved up to three times
its
pace at the start of the decade when the country was pulling out of
the
slump triggered by the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, its former
benefactor.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/29807
Independent economic sources such as the U.N. Economic Commission for
Latin America and the Caribbean have questioned Cuba's economic data.
The government recently revised its method for calculating growth to
place a value on the many free services it provides, including health
care and education.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/27628
Education:
ARE CUBA'S EDUCATIONAL STATISTICS RELIABLE?
Benigno E. Aguirre and Roberto J. Vichot
"On the other, however,
some official statistics are plainly unreliable and invalid.
We have identified these scores and shown the
reasons for our incredulity. The puzzle for us is why
such systematic errors become part of an otherwise
reliable statistical record.
The unreliable statistics can not be explained by assuming
that they are the results of accidents, coding
mishaps, or other data management problems. Instead,
in our opinion they are the result of a generalized
tendency to exaggerate real revolutionary
achievements to such an implausible extent that in
the long term results in the erroneous discredit by
outsiders of the entire government effort. This is the
paradoxical result of the presence of two distinct and
opposed principles of power: rationality and charisma.
The first builds the bureaucracy and the programs
and practices which produce the achievements;
the second, unbounded by principles of logic
and human limits, claims the most amazing feats as
its own and demand their 'proofs.' Our prediction is
that this postulated commingling of rationality and
charisma will help social scientists understand the
workings of other social institutions in the island."
http://lanic.utexas.edu/la/cb/cuba/asce/cuba6/47Aguirre.fm.pdf
CUBAN HEALTH CARE: THE REAL STORY 2007-07-21.
ICCAS Press Release July 19, 2007 "Re-examining the Cuban Health Care
System" Article in UM's Cuban Affairs Journal Reveals Details
http://www.miscelaneasdecuba.net/media/pdf/Article-Hirschfeld-Press.pdf
Coral Gables, Fl.-Contrary to what Michael Moore's documentary, "Sicko,"
would lead you to believe, Cuba's health care system is far from
perfect. Although it has long been praised as one of the revolution
successes, Cuba's health care system works for foreigners but often
fails its own citizens. That is the conclusion of an article titled
"Re-examining the Cuban Health Care System" included in the latest
edition of the online journal, "Cuban Affairs," published by the
University of Miami's Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies.
The author, University of Oklahoma Professor Katherine Hirschfeld, spent
nine months in the island living with a Cuban family and interviewing
family doctors, medical specialists, social workers, nurses and patients
as part of her research. The article details the realities of the health
system "where the best clinics and hospitals only serve the political
elites and foreigners and scarce medical supplies are often stolen from
hospitals and sold on the black market." Through personal observations
and interviews, Hirschfeld details the three levels of healthcare in
Cuba. One for foreigners paying in hard currency; an excellent system
with great equipment and medication. A second one for the military and
high government and party officials. Again, this system is excellent. On
the contrary, the one most Cubans deal with is poor; there is a shortage
of equipment and medication; and now many of the physicians serving them
are sent abroad for humanitarian purposes.
http://www.miscelaneasdecuba.net/web/article.asp?artID=10898
Re-examining the Cuban Health Care System: Towards a Qualitative
Critique See link below for full report. Conclusions: Socialism, Public
Health, and Social Science In the introduction to this paper I raised a
somewhat radical question: to what extent is the favorable international
image of the Cuban health care system maintained by the Cuban
government's practice of suppressing dissent and covertly intimidating
or imprisoning would-be critics? The goal of the paper has not been to
answer this question so much as to argue for its relevance in assessing
the Cuban case. When speaking informally, Cubans often make critical
comments about their experiences in the health care system. To my
knowledge, however, these locally articulated criticisms are not
included in social science or public health articles on the Cuban health
care system. As a result of this omission, the scholarly literature on
Cuba implicitly validates the point of view of the Cuban
government--that shortages are caused solely by the U.S. trade embargo,
and that that the complaints of dissidents are not legitimate. The
ethnographic data and analysis presented here are intended to challenge
these assumptions. I have tried to illustrate that material shortages
are endemic to all centralized, planned economies, and that in addition
to devoting resources to hospital construction and expansion of the
health sector, ideocratic states often use very authoritarian
tactics--tactics that individual doctors and patients can subjectively
experience very negatively--to create and maintain favorable health
statistics. When issues of state power and social control are factored
into the analysis, it becomes possible to see how Cuba's health
indicators are at least in some cases obtained by imposing significant
costs on the Cuban population--costs that Cuban citizens are powerless
to articulate or protest, and foreign researchers unable to empirically
investigate. At this point, it is important to clarify that taking a
critical perspective toward Cuba and Cuban health care does not imply a
casual dismissal of the ideals of the Cuban Revolution or the compelling
rhetoric of social progress and equality that has accompanied Cuba's
health initiatives. As Peter Berger has pointed out, "a critique is not
an attack, but rather an effort to perceive clearly and to weigh human
costs" (1986:71). My primary goal in this work, therefore, has been to
use ethnographic data to illustrate some of the human costs of Cuba's
"socialist health and health care," and to challenge the case for Cuban
exceptionalism with respect to some of the problems that have been
described for other socialist health systems such as the former Soviet
Union.
http://www.miscelaneasdecuba.net/media/pdf/Article-Hirschfeld-Press.pdf
PL
PL
> {Comment}
(snip)
some reports:
Las cifras del anuario tambi�n reflejan cierto deterioro en 2005 de la
tasa de mortalidad infantil, que llega a 6.2 por 1000 nacidos vivos,
casi un 7% de incremento sobre el nivel de 2004. Este indicador resulta
ciertamente bajo a nivel internacional, pero hay que considerar que
ocurre en un pa�s con una tasa de natalidad muy baja y una extendida
pr�ctica de abortos ante cualquier duda de problemas con el feto.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/25596
La mortalidad infantil en Cuba y todas las estad�sticas
gubernamentales son una burda mentira manipulada por el sistema
Cubano. Mi madre trabajo por aos como estadistica en un hospital
materno de la Habana, no voy a mencionar el nombre, y me mostraba
todos los trucos y trampas para cubrir las muertes infantiles. El
problema de salas quirurgicas infectadas en Cuba no es noticia nueva,
lleva a=F1os sucediendo. Si mencionan 7 bebes fallecidos les aseguro que
lo pueden multiplicar por 2 o por 3. Hace a=F1os cuando aun vivia en el
"paraiso" mi esposa tuvo que estar una noche en observaciones, con
suero, en una sala del Calixto Garcia por infeccion renal. La sala
originalmente para 5 0 6 paciente albergaba alrededor de 20, no habia
sabanas en las camas, las cucarachas pululaban por las paredes y habia
solamente un inodoro sin agua para todos estos pacientes. Yo y mi
suegra tuvimos que quedarnos toda la noche con mi esposa, pues cuando
uno de nosotros la acompa�aba al bano el otro cuidaba de sus
pertenecias para que no se la robaran. En fin algunas memorias y
realidades del verdadero sistema de salud publica Cubana.
Publicado por gregorio
- 9:43 AM, 09-05-08
http://www.elnuevoherald.com/167/v-all_comments/story/278515.html#view_comm
SALUD PUBLICA
Aumenta mortalidad infantil en Cienfuegos
CIENFUEGOS, Cuba - 20 de octubre (Carmen Mart�nez Vilche, Jagua Press /
www.cubanet.org) - La preocupaci�n se apoder� de las autoridades m�dicas
cienfuegueras el pasado 12 de octubre, al percatarse del incremento que
se registra en la mortalidad infantil en la provincia, que salt� de 5 a
12.3 fallecidos por cada mil nacidos vivos en lo que va de a�o.
Se desconocen las causas que originaron el incremento del fen�meno. El
problema ha generado tal preocupaci�n que ha obligado a los funcionarios
del Ministerio de Salud P�blica y del gobierno a reunirse para
determinar qu� deficiencias provocaron esta alza.
Sin embargo, numerosos residentes entrevistados coincidieron en se�alar
que este aumento de la mortalidad infantil se debe a la falta de m�dicos
con experiencia, ya que �stos han sido enviados a diferentes pa�ses del
mundo, dejando a la poblaci�n infantil desprotegida.
http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y05/oct05/21a2.htm
Aumenta mortalidad infantil
MOR�N, Cuba, 3 de agosto (Valent�n Balart, APLA / www.cubanet.org) � Los
meses de mayo, junio y julio han sido claves para medir el aumento de la
mortalidad infantil en Mor�n. El �ndice alcanza uno de los primeros
lugares a nivel nacional.
Hasta la fecha han fallecido nueve menores y tres madres durante el
parto o despu�s. Adem�s, se reportaron tres ni�os en la sala de cuidados
intensivos, seg�n inform� a esta agencia un trabajador del hospital
Roberto Rodr�guez.
Este hospital es famoso por la persistencia de bacterias en las salas de
operaciones debido a la falta de medios de desinfecci�n o productos
adecuados para esos fines. Un ni�o, de 25 d�as de nacido, muri� por la
infecci�n de una bacteria el pasado 8 de junio.
La zona m�s afectada es la norte, donde las autoridades sanitarias
realizaron una encuesta, a trav�s de la cual se conoci� que la escasez
de medicamentos pre-natales y la mala alimentaci�n han influido en el
incremento de los �ndices de mortalidad.
http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y09/agosto09/03_N_1.html
Quejas B�sicas del Personal de la Salud:
"Estad�stica falsa del Ministerio de Salud p�blica al no reportar las
enfermedades nutricionales y ofrecer cifras �nfimas o nulas de
enfermedades infectas contagiosas, SIDA, muertes maternas, mortalidad
infantil, suicidios, embarazos de adolescentes, etc."
Revista Desaf�os A�o 12, No. 65
http://webstc.org/desafios/desafios5.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/20275
"Desempleo, mortalidad infantil, educaci�n, salud y otros logros de la
propaganda totalitaria son objetos de manipulaci�n. Eso no es un secreto
para nadie, aunque no son pocos los que se hacen eco de esas informaciones.
Podemos apreciar c�mo organismos de reconocido prestigio publican en sus
p�ginas informaciones econ�micas y sociales como si fueran el diario Granma
o la Mesa Redonda. Otros, un poco m�s profesionales, s�lo ponen en sus
estad�sticas dos letras N/D (no disponibles)."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/14941
"Cuba dice tener una tasa de mortalidad infantil ligeramente m�s baja que la
de Estados Unidos, pero luego de una "extensa investigaci�n" el Sentinel
afirma que "esta afirmaci�n es imprecisa".
"La realidad es que los m�dicos cubanos son presionados para que falseen la
tasa de mortalidad infantil", dice el Sentinel.
El art�culo revela que la tasa de mortalidad infantil en Cuba en ni�os de 1
a 4 a�os es 34% m�s alta que la de Estados Unidos (11.8 vs. 8.8 por mil).
Por otra parte, se asegura que la tasa de mortalidad materna en Cuba es casi
cuatro veces la de Estados Unidos (33 vs. 8.4 por mil).
El art�culo de The Medical Sentinel se�ala que s�lo el 25% de los m�dicos
graduados en Cuba aprueba la rev�lida que exige Estados Unidos para
practicar la medicina en este pa�s."
Mira : http://www.contactomagazine.com/medicos1013.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/146
"Seg�n las cifras oficiales, Cuba tiene una tasa de mortalidad infantil de
7.3 por cada 1,000 nacidos vivos, la m�s baja de Am�rica Latina y una de las
m�s bajas del mundo, algo que Castro cita siempre como uno de los grandes
logros de su r�gimen en materia de salud.
The Medical Sentinel se�al� que a pesar de esta cifra, el r�gimen cubano
oculta que la mortalidad infantil en la isla, en el grupo de uno a cuatro
a�os de edad, es de 11.8 por cada 1,000.
"Esa cifra es 34 veces m�s alta que en Estados Unidos", se�al� el art�culo."
http://www.cubdest.org/0012/c1024not.html
El fraude de las estad�sticas de la dictadura castrista sobre la mortalidad
infantil
Por Bert Corzo
El objeto de este art�culo es el de exponer la verdad sobre el mito de la
tiran�a castrista acerca de la mortalidad infantil.
En informes del gobierno publicados por el diario oficial Granma, enero del
2001, �ste se vanagloriaba que en el 2000 la mortalidad infantil en Cuba
estuvo entre las m�s bajas del mundo, 7.2 por mil nacidos vivos, cifra de
muy dudosa veracidad como veremos en los datos suministrados m�s adelante.
Las estad�sticas de la ONU se�alan que Cuba tuvo en 1957 una mortalidad
infantil de 32 por mil nacidos vivos, la m�s baja en Am�rica Latina. Esta
cifra coloc� a Cuba en la posici�n n�mero 13 a nivel mundial, al frente de
pa�ses como Austria, B�lgica, Corea del Sur, Espa�a, Francia, Grecia,
Israel, Italia, Jap�n y Portugal. En la actualidad todos esos pa�ses se
encuentran delante de Cuba, la cual ocupa el lugar 29 a nivel mundial. No
est� lejano el d�a en que podamos comprobar la veracidad sobre dichas
estad�sticas.
Los datos y opiniones que se exponen a continuaci�n han sido emitidos por
organizaciones m�dicas, la ONU, periodistas independientes dentro de Cuba y
por doctores en medicina.
El siguiente art�culo publicado en The Medical Sentinel 2000, �rgano oficial
de the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, revela lo siguiente:
"La dictadura castrista dice tener una mortalidad infantil m�s baja que
Estados Unidos. Pero cuando se examina m�s a fondo, se comprueba que dicho
reclamo es falso. La realidad es que los m�dicos en Cuba son presionados
para que usen todos los medios a su alcance para distorsionar la mortalidad
infantil, siendo recompensados financieramente los que se prestan a dicha
infamia.
"El mantenimiento artificial de la vida de los infantes durante el
primer a�o de nacidos, con el objeto de alcanzar una meta num�rica en la
mortalidad infantil en determinado sector de la salud p�blica, es practica
com�n en el sistema cubano. La tasa de mortalidad infantil en Cuba desde 1 a
4 a�os es un 34 por ciento mayor que en Estados Unidos (11.8 por mil contra
8.8 por mil). Tambi�n la mortalidad maternal en Cuba es casi cuatro veces
mayor que en Estados Unidos (33 por 1000 contra 8.4 por 1000). La mortalidad
infantil en Cuba, bajo estas circunstancias, no es representativa del
bienestar y el nivel de vida de la poblaci�n."
El Dr. Juan Felipe Garc�a MD, Jacksonville, Florida, abril 2001, en
entrevistas con m�dicos cubanos reci�n llegados, recopil� la siguiente
informaci�n:
"La estad�stica peri-natal del gobierno cubano es un fraude. Cuando un
ni�o nace, el pediatra es condenado si reporta estad�sticas adversas, por lo
tanto, se falsifican fechas en historias cl�nicas para que los ni�os
'mueran' despu�s del primer a�o (La mortalidad perinatal est� definida por
los muertos dentro del primer a�o de vida). Si un m�dico reporta un
resultado adverso para la 'Revoluci�n', cae en desgracia y le puede costar
desde un castigo severo, hasta el trabajo. Los ni�os 'no pueden morir
despu�s de nacidos' y menos en la sala de parto."
Mario Enrique Mayo de la Agencia F�lix Varela, report� desde Camag�ey para
Nueva Prensa Cubana, el 26 de enero, 2003, lo siguiente:
"A la doctora Olga Oropeza, una especialista del hospital materno
provincial Ana Betancourt, se le amonest� por haber dejado nacer vivo a un
ni�o, de bajo peso, en la ciudad de Camag�ey.
"El vicedirector de asistencia m�dica, doctor Leonardo Ram�rez, le hizo
el reproche a la galena porque eso afectaba la cifra de mortalidad infantil.
Esta censura fue realizada el 30 de diciembre, cuando se hac�an las
informaciones de fin de a�o sobre la mortalidad infantil."
Esta noticia corrobora la informaci�n anterior de m�dicos cubanos reci�n
llegados al exilio.
Lo relatado a continuaci�n, s�lo sucede en la actualidad en pa�ses muy
atrasados, supuestamente no debiera suceder en una "POTENCIA M�DICA" como
Cuba.
Mar�a Elena Rodr�guez, reportera de Cuba Voz, el 25 de junio de 2001,
report�:
"Hospitales infantiles de la ciudad de La Habana no disponen de
reactivos qu�micos para efectuar pruebas de laboratorio cl�nico de vital
importancia en la emisi�n de un diagn�stico preciso.
'Hace seis meses que no se puede realizar la prueba de sangre para
detectar la fiebre tifoidea y tampoco la eritrosedimentaci�n', dijo una
t�cnica de laboratorio del hospital materno infantil del municipio Diez de
Octubre de Ciudad de La Habana.
Otros hospitales de la capital que carecen de productos qu�micos para
an�lisis de sangre son los pedi�tricos del Cerro, de Centro Habana, de San
Miguel del Padr�n, as� como el Arturo Aball� y el Instituto de Reumatolog�a
de adultos que se encuentra en la antigua cl�nica Dependiente."
Juan Carlos Linares report� desde La Habana, el 22 de agosto de 2001, para
CubaNet lo siguiente:
"M�s de 80 ni�os contagiados con meningoencefalitis equina han sido
atendidos en el hospital Pedi�trico del Cerro (antigua Cat�licas Cubanas) en
las �ltimas semanas.
"La cifra evidencia que se trata de una epidemia, y no por gusto el
Ministerio de Salud P�blica design� al Pedi�trico del Cerro -enclavado en el
municipio del mismo nombre en la capital cubana- para que atendiera los
casos de mayor gravedad que se presentaran. 'Aunque est� previsto que otros
hospitales de Ciudad de La Habana prestar�n su asistencia si la enfermedad
se extiende', indic� la fuente.
La prensa independiente cubana ha informado en los �ltimos tiempos
sobre
diferentes problemas de salud en la capital de Cuba, sin embargo los medios
nacionales no publican nada, absolutamente nada sobre este tipo de temas."
Jos� Izquierdo, G�ines, Grupo Decoro / www.cubanet.org, 3 de julio 2002,
report�:
"Una invasi�n de garrapatas caus� el cierre temporal de la sala ocho,
especializada en pediatr�a, del hospital Aleida Fern�ndez, ubicado en
G�ines, provincia La Habana.
No sabemos qu� hacer, el estado higi�nico del hospital es
deplorable. Es
com�n encontrarse con grandes cantidades de cucarachas, mosquitos, ratones y
ahora garrapatas."
V�ctor Rolando Arroyo, PINAR DEL R�O, UPECI / www.cubanet.org, 6 de agosto,
2002, report�:
"La escasez de biberones en el hospital pedi�trico de la provincia
cubana Pinar del R�o es la causa por la que a los ni�os ingresados en esa
instalaci�n se les alimenta en pomos desechables de suero, si los padres no
llevan sus propios utensilios para la lactancia de los menores. Sin embargo,
en las tiendas dolarizadas hay abundantes existencias de biberones
fabricados en China, lo que echa por tierra el argumento del embargo
estadounidense."
Beatriz del Carmen Pedroso, La Habana, Carta De Cuba, agosto 27, 2002,
report�:
"La cr�tica situaci�n en el Hospital Pedi�trico Juan Manuel M�rquez,
ubicado en Avenida 41 en el municipio capitalino de Marianao, determin� el
cierre total de las salas de atenci�n a enfermedades diarreicas agudas por
falta de higiene, y dos de sus salones quir�rgicos con que cuenta esta
instalaci�n de salud, al carecer de equipos de climatizaci�n y balones de
ox�geno.
"Es lamentable que se pospongan o no se realicen intervenciones
quir�rgicas a ni�os con diferentes dolencias, algunas de urgencia, y que los
tengamos que remitir con urgencia a otros hospitales para concluir la
operaci�n', admiti� un funcionario del hospital.
"El Juan Manuel M�rquez fue edificado en la d�cada de los a�os 90, pero
su construcci�n es deficiente, ya que la mayor�a de sus paredes est�n
agrietadas y existen filtraciones en los techos."
Dorka de C�spedes / HavanaPress, Nueva Prensa Cubana (www.nuevaprensa.org),
report� desde La Habana, noviembre 14, 2002:
"Diferentes brotes de leptospirosis -com�nmente conocida como "la
enfermedad del rat�n"-, dentro y fuera de la capital cubana, han obligado a
j�venes trabajadores de salud p�blica a aplicar el veneno contra las rata,
conocido por Biorat.
"Hasta el momento se han reportado 3 ni�os fallecidos a causa de la
leptospirosis, en el municipio habanero de G�ines. Y numerosos casos
aislados en zonas capitalinas. La causa aparente de este nuevo brote es la
aparici�n de ratas, despu�s de la limpieza intensiva en las �reas
metropolitanas."
Alicia Zamora Labrada, Lux Info Press / www.cubanet.org, La Habana, 15 de
diciembre, 2002, report�:
"La direcci�n provincial del ministerio de Salud P�blica orden� el
cierre inmediato del Hospital Materno - Infantil "Lebredo", aleda�o al
Hospital General Docente "Julio Trigo" (antiguo Sanatorio La Esperanza)
ubicado en el Km. 7 de la Calzada a Bejucal en el municipio Arroyo Naranjo
de la capital.
"La informaci�n fue suministrada a esta agencia por la doctora Rayma
Alonso, especialista en Ginecobstetricia.
"La aplicaci�n de tan urgente medida se debe a la cr�tica situaci�n en
que se encontraba la instalaci�n hospitalaria y que ha sido denunciada por
trabajadores del Sindicato Independiente de la Salud, afiliado a la
Confederaci�n Obrera Nacional Independiente de Cuba (CONIC)."
El Anuario Estad�stico de la ONU informa lo siguiente:
"Cuba es el pa�s con la menor tasa de natalidad en Am�rica Latina y el
pa�s con el mayor n�mero de abortos en el mundo, 0.71 aborto por cada
nacimiento vivo en 1991, dos veces el �ndice de los otro pa�ses (Datos
basados en estad�sticas oficiales del gobierno cubano)".
"La terminaci�n selectiva de los 'embarazos de alto riesgo' hace
descender el �ndice de mortalidad infantil."
El Nuevo Herald, en la edici�n del 23 de Septiembre del 2000, public� lo
siguiente:
"M�s de 3 millones de abortos en 30 a�os. Cuba es una de las naciones
del mundo con m�s altos �ndices de abortos. Las estad�sticas oficiales lo
demuestran. Por ejemplo, entre 1968 y 1992 se realizaron 2.9 millones de
interrupciones de embarazo, y de 1993 a 1997 se llevaron a cabo 424,214
abortos. De esto resulta que, en las �ltimas tres d�cadas, se han practicado
m�s de tres millones de interrupciones de embarazo. En los �ltimos a�os, las
autoridades de salud han reconocido que hay un significativo aumento del
n�mero de embarazadas menores de 20 a�os, con todo lo que eso implica de
peligro para esas j�venes y los trastornos familiares que esto trae
consigo."
Dr. Ricardo Alfonso N., Cirujano, Caracas Venezuela, 17 de diciembre de1999,
en carta abierta a Hugo Ch�vez dice:
"Es de hacer notar, que s�lo los que hemos estado en ese �PARAISO' y
conocemos desde adentro la medicina Cubana, podemos afirmar (quiero aclarar
que como m�dico hago esta afirmaci�n), que la medicina Cubana es una de las
grandes mentiras de este siglo, es una medicina primitiva, que se remonta a
los a�os 50, donde no hay ni el menor conocimiento de la medicina moderna
"Hasta cu�ndo el enga�o, Se�or Presidente, la medicina cubana es 'UNA
GRAN MENTIRA', su interfer�n, su vacuna de la hepatitis B, su tratamiento
del SIDA, sus trasplantes de Huesos, etc.
"Los que hemos estado en Cuba y somos m�dicos sabemos que los
Hospitales
no funcionan, no hay s�banas, no hay medicinas, los ni�os mueren de mengua,
y no hablo por hablar, estuve viendo un nene, en el Hospital de Marianao,
por que un familiar me lo pidi�, all� en Cuba y no hab�a nada con que
tratarlo y no conoc�an las medicinas modernas."
Gonzalo Guimaraens en su art�culo "Vacuna cubana contra la menningitis:
ineficacia comprobada", publicado en amigospais- guaracabuya.org, Julio
2000, dice lo siguiente:
"Un estudio del conceptuado Centro de Vigilancia Epidemiol�gica (CVE)
del Estado de S�o Paulo, Brasil, dado a conocer recientemente, recopila
datos estad�sticos demoledores acumulados durante los �ltimos a�os que
muestran la ineficacia de la vacuna cubana contra la meningitis B en los
ni�os menores de cuatro a�os, los m�s vulnerables a esa terrible enfermedad.
Despu�s de dar claras y minuciosas informaciones sobre testes efectuados en
S�o Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Santiago de Chile e Islandia, afirma: "Los
estudios realizados con la administraci�n de la vacuna cubana en los menores
de cuatro a�os de edad -frecuentemente el grupo de mayor riesgo para
contraer esa enfermedad- no presentaron evidencias significativas de
protecci�n. Por lo tanto, esa vacuna no debe ser recomendada como medida
profil�ctica de la enfermedad meningoc�cica del grupo B, para ni�os menores
de cuatro a�os.
"El mito publicitario sobre la vacuna cubana contra la meningitis B
cobr� impulso internacional en noviembre de 1988, en Atlanta, durante un
congreso internacional de medicina. En las sesiones, caus� impacto la
presentaci�n de un estudio efectuado por investigadores de la isla sobre los
aparentemente excelentes resultados preventivos de dicha vacuna,
desarrollada por el Centro Nacional de Biopreparados de Cuba. Creyendo a
pies juntillas en esos alegados resultados, la Secretar�a de Salud del
Estado de S�o Paulo, Brasil, y posteriormente el propio Ministerio de Salud
de ese pa�s, encomendaron a Cuba durante 1989 y 1990 m�s de 15 millones de
dosis, en valores que sumaron centenas de millones de d�lares.
"El negocio para Cuba comunista fue redondo. Para muchos ni�os
brasile�os, lo que vino fue la decepci�n. Una d�cada despu�s de esa
malograda experiencia, el Centro de Vigilancia Epidemiol�gica (CVE) del
Estado de S�o Paulo ha dado a conocer este informe con resultados
concluyentes. M�s vale tarde que nunca, dice el refr�n. 'Brasil ya gast� 300
millones de d�lares con una vacuna cubana que no present� resultados',
lament� el Dr. Isa�as Raw, director del conocido Instituto Butantan de S�o
Paulo, especializado en biotecnolog�a. El CVE ha presentado hechos y
estad�sticas que hablan por s�, y que contribuyen a desmitificar otro de los
supuestos "logros" de la medicina cubana, tan alardeados por el r�gimen
comunista y por sus seguidores en el mundo entero."
El Dr. Miguel �ngel Garc�a Pu�ales en su escrito "El Sistema Sanitario
Cubano", dice lo siguiente:
"Existe en Cuba m�s de un sistema sanitario, el que funciona para la
clase dirigente y los turistas y al que tiene alcance el pueblo. No es un
sistema p�blico, pues el pueblo solo tiene acceso a una parte de �l, la
menos beneficiada.
"No es gratuito, por cuanto los trabajadores son gravados desde
1962 con
un impuesto sobre el salario cuyo destino ten�a la salubridad y los
medicamentos que hoy son pr�cticamente inexistentes y que siempre han sido
cobrados.
"En mi tr�nsito por el Sistema Nacional de Salud, fui profesor en la
ense�anza posgraduada, jefe de departamento en un instituto de
investigaci�n, vice-director docente en un hospital y jefe de un
departamento de desarrollo en el organismo central del MINSAP, precisamente
en el �rea de informaci�n.
"En todo ese tiempo pude observar c�mo se encubren los resultados del
trabajo sanitario, manipulando o simplemente desapareciendo la informaci�n.
"Los indicadores estad�sticos de causa de muerte, por ejemplo, son
clasificados desde 1985 y el com�n de los analistas ignora que cada a�o se
suicidan m�s cubanos que los ca�dos en 11 a�os de guerras sudafricanas, es
decir, casi dos mil fallecidos anuales durante una d�cada; que se produce
casi un aborto por cada ni�o que nace, con la complicidad ruin de la
estad�stica que se empe�a en clasificar un por ciento de ellos como
'regulaciones menstruales'; de enfermedades de declaraci�n obligatoria que
se ocultan a la opini�n p�blica en aras de evitar trastornos en un carnaval
pol�tico, como ocurri� con el brote epid�mico de Dengue en 1997 y que cost�
prisi�n al Dr. Dessi Mendoza por cumplir su deber ciudadano de informarlo a
la prensa independiente."
Obviamente estos hechos no deber�an suceder en la supuesta "POTENCIA M�DICA"
de acuerdo con la propaganda de los alabarderos de la tiran�a castrista.
Esta es la triste realidad, son hechos que demuestran lo contrario de lo que
afirma sobre este tema la propaganda de la tiran�a. Si esta alardea tanto de
que es una potencia m�dica y ofrece ayudas en medicamentos y en personal
m�dico a otros pa�ses, �por qu� descuida tanto al pueblo cubano?. Bas�ndonos
en los datos y opiniones expuestos en este art�culo podemos preguntarnos,
�la mortalidad infantil mejor� o empeor�?
Desgraciadamente, a pesar de los mejores esfuerzos de los sacrificados
m�dicos cubanos, la Isla se ha convertido en una "IMPOTENCIA M�DICA".
http://www.cubanet.org/opi/02190301.htm
PL
Dan Christensen
> Barry Schier wrote:
> > {Comment}
> > Not appearing in this article is one statistic appearing year after
> > year in the C.I.A. World Factbook: The infant mortality statistics of
> > Cuba
>
> where the CIA reproduces the data from the UN.
Not even your CIA colleagues aren't buying into your bullshit
propaganda here, Mr. Lobbyist. Why should we?
PL does tend to repeat himself. For the most recent of debunking of
his outrageous claims here, see the discussion beginning at:
"Cuba needs change, not U.S. tourists"
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/15244d9e03e3caf0?hl=en
Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at http://tiny.cc/CubaFAQ
(Note new address. Please update your bookmarks and links.)
PS: As an antidote to PL's venomous personal attacks on me here, and
his lies and evasions on everything from his lobbying exploits to the
international condemnation of his beloved embargo, see: "PL's same
tired old lies and evasions EXPOSED" at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/36c96cf26743ccca?hl=en
PL
> On Dec 13, 7:06 pm, PL <pl.nos...@pandora.be> wrote:
>> Barry Schier wrote:
>>> {Comment}
>>> Not appearing in this article is one statistic appearing year after
>>> year in the C.I.A. World Factbook: The infant mortality statistics of
>>> Cuba
>> where the CIA reproduces the data from the UN.
>
> Not even your CIA colleagues
Lie and innuendo as usual.
I have no "cia colleagues".
Your desperate lies have been frequently exposed;
some reports:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/25596
http://www.elnuevoherald.com/167/v-all_comments/story/278515.html#view_comm
http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y05/oct05/21a2.htm
Aumenta mortalidad infantil
http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y09/agosto09/03_N_1.html
Por Bert Corzo
THE STANDARD REPLY TO DAN'S LIES AND PERSONAL INSULTS.
again Dan Christensen shows what a hypocrite liar he is.
He is the one doing the "attacking" with his lies and slander.
As all can see I only post this piece that exposes his lies when he
has started his slanderous attacks.
That by the way is in general within a couple of exchanges on the
facts of the case involved as by then he is so stuck that he has to
resort to lies and insults.
Please note that lies combined with personal attacks only destroy
your credibility, Dan.
Dan Christensen knows I am not a lobbyist and that it is all just a
slander campaign.
As a good follower of Goebbels he keeps repeating his lies in the hope
that something will stick and that he maybe can mislead some people
that
don't know what he is all about.
Desperate Dan Is doing his bit in the slander campaign of the "rat
pack"
he is associated with. The contribution of his pals at the Centre
Ernesto Che Guevara in this group recently just shows what Dan and his
cronies are all about: lies, insults, slander and intimidation.
Actually: given your actions in the past Dan you fit the lobbyist
profile a lot closer.
You contact people in support of the Cuban regime and with the aim to
have them change the content of their website or change public
statements. You even pose as a "journalist" or "researcher" while
doing so.
The fact that you have been utterly unsuccessful at it and that only
your website suffered the removal of pages just shows what a bad
lobbyist you are.
Your Club Med, lobbying, CIA lies are exposed again
Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:
For those that want to see the full thread and the complete messages
in their context (which Dan Christensen desperately hopes nobody will
as it will expose his lies), here is a link to the threads concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/5fb621a1396ecc6c/2602f5eb5bd1c2ed?hl=3D3Den=3DE0=3DA8=3DAAf5eb5bd1c2ed
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/56e1a7b9ca6c61e3/9cfde811fd6c7414?#9cfde811fd6c7414
To Dan Christensen's great frustration his lies by now have been
exposed by various other people in other threads like:
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/ac34bd501ab58b97?dmode=3D3Dsource
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda
Dan Christensen lied when he claimed I had stated that I had been at
Club Med in Varadero - a hotel he tried to depict as a sleazy sex
resort - to "lobby" people.
Just one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/4b7720708da65ee0?dmode=3D3Dsource
Dan Christensen even suggested the whole trip was paid for by the CIA
thereby accusing Belgian officials of not only sexual impropriety, but
also of active corruption.
You see: Dan Christensen just doesn't know when to stop lying and gets
caught up in his "cloak and dagger" childish fantasies.
His lies are so over the top that it all become a big joke that people
can easily see though.
Here is one example of how serial liar Dan Christensen was exposed.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda?dmode=3D3Dsource
The lies of Dan Christensen about me that were exposed:
- his lie about me playing golf to "lobby": exposed. Dan Christensen
had to admit there were no quotes to support any of that.
- his lie about singles resorts and schmoozing: exposed as various
people stated that it is merely a family resort that even had a circus
school for children
- his lie about me being in Varadero: exposed as Dan Christensen had
to admit I never said I was there
- his lie that it were all "CIA junkets" exposed as Dan Christensen
ran like hell when he realized that this lie could expose him to legal
sanctions
- his lie that I had "self-confessed" anything: exposed by people that
put the snippets Dan Christensen abusively posts in context (as shown
in this message)
All Dan Christensen's lies have been exposed by various people.
as I said comrade
Dan: whenever you post your lies about me I post the truth about you.
Your record of lies, innuendo, insults and support of human rights
abuses discredits you.
All shame you brought on yourself by your attitude and actions.
The exposure of the "lobbyist" lie in further detail.
Dan Christensen's abuse of misquotes has been exposed over and over
again. He just aped the lie of another apologist that dropped that
specific lie very quickly. The guy is indeed smarter than stupid Dan.
When Dan Christensen tried to come up with his own "new and
improved" version of the lie he fell flat on his face.
He claimed I had been "lobbying" people In Geneva while his Rat Pack
pal "cuba libre" that stalked me then showed from an IP address from
which I had posted something that I was in Santiago de Cuba at the
time. One Rat Pack member exposing another's lies with the result of
his cyber stalking. Ironic.
Dan's other exposed false claim:
"Taking a little break from arm-twisting in Geneva, Mr. Lobbyist?"
Link:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/b6375f9783e47aee?q=3D3Dg:thl174670614d&dq=3D3D&hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8
Again it is clear what a pathetic loser Dan Christensen is.
Below you will find what is behind Dan Christensen's slanderous
campaign: facts he can't deny.
- Frustration
I exposed Dan Christensen as a fraud in this group years ago when I
blew his "cover". In SCC he tried to portray himself as an
"independent
interested party" with no political agenda.
When I came across a blatantly different reply to a similar question
in a Stalinist e-group to which I had been invited I posted it to show
his lying hypocrisy.
Since then he has been pissed as hell as it undermined his lying
propaganda effort to mislead "those in the background" (his own words,
those that didn't have "local knowledge". He himself admitted in the
same e-group that propagandist like him can never "convince" those
with "local knowledge". In frequent exchanges he got some mad he often
forgot to keep up the pretense and made him show his hand and true
nature:
Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well
worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary
measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping
less worthy regimes in the region -- the USA and its vassal states in
the
Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind."
"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At
this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to
send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and
Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining
these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are
morally justified under the circumstances."
That meant he was exposed a the hypocrite liar he is. It showed that
the false claims he made about others (support of genocide, torture,
abuses, ..) in fact only applied to him.
I have also frequently exposed his lies about facts and people in SCC.
Dan Christensen once claimed:
"It is clear from Smith's article here (and his website, CIP Online)
that he does, in fact, support an immediate and unconditional lifting
of your beloved embargo."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/3f1fe3a55c12d7d7?dmode=3D3Dsource&hl=3D3Den
Mr. Smith's own words:
'We should reduce tensions, not aggravate it, making it clear to the
Cuban government that we do not have hostile intentions toward them,''
Smith
said during a 40-minute speech at a conference titled Cuba and the
United States: Relations in Permanent Conflict, Causes, Effects and
Solutions.
''I did not say lift the embargo without conditions,'' he said.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/cuba/12157593.htm
You can enter after a free registration.
Permanent copy in the Cubaverdad archive:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/16823
Then there is the issue of his lying website: acting with a third
person I had pages removed (for violations of law, slander, ...), I
have shamed him in to changing it on
various occasions (adding links that would then expose his lies,
remove lying caption from pictures, ...) and I have in general exposed
the lies on it (on Amnesty International for example)
What Dan claimed on his website (the misquote):
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear
its support for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel
sanctions"
http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html
now moved to:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/danchristienses/CubaFAQ215.html
Link to the "report": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
to it)
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=3D3DENG-CUB
where the only thing Amnesty international asks for "immediately and
unconditionally" is the release of political prisoners.
Quote:
"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience
(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."
In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.
" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
end of quote
- Dogmatic hatred.
Dan Christensen is a hard-line Stalinist. His first steps in SCC were
to defend Stalin and in other forums he has praised "workers
democracy" under Stalin.
He has admitted that he is ready to fight to the last Cuban (from his
comfortable armchair in Canada) for his cause.
By posting the reports from the international press, human rights
organizations and Cuban independent journalists I have exposed his
propaganda as a lie. That makes the man wild with rage.
As he like to see himself as the "victim" (he once claimed he was
being censored in SCC) he therefore lashes out at people claiming that
those that contradict him are "CIA" agents (as if the CIA would care
about a third rate liar as Dan) and professional "lobbyists" probably
to make himself feel that he is "important" and to explain away his
complete propaganda failure (portraying himself as "overcome by
unsurmountable institutional odds").
- Personal hate and the "rat pack"
Dan has suffered the trauma of having part of his website remove
after a long battle over the personal attacks and falsifications he
had posted there.
The frequent exposures of his lies and hypocrisy only fueled the
personal hatred.
Dan ganged up with various other propagandists that people that have
been attacked by them refer to as the "rat pack". I have been the
target of the lies and slanderous insults of this "rat pack".
They specialize in online slander (from posting private information,
attacking their business or businesses they are associated with,
inciting others to harass people, over accusing people of being "CIA
agents" or "lobbyists" to the worst things one can imagine) and direct
harassment (phone calls, letters, letters with razor blade or white
powder, loitering in front of people's houses,.. up to death threats
in France).
All they succeeded in doing was to dramatically increase traffic to a
website I participate in ( www.cubaverdad.net ) and to suffer the
consequences of their slander.
Dan Christensen had part of his website removed. The Centre Che in
France had their complete website removed and their "secretary" known
here as "cubalibre" real name Fran�ois Valy was sentenced to 6 months
in
jail for a whole series of abuses (including racism). A Spanish
"subsidiary" of the rat pack still has a surprise coming.
All because of their lies were exposed.
But then in the end this is what it boils down to: those that don't
have rational arguments find themselves exposed as the liars they are.
When that happens all they have left are the old
slander tactics: they attack the people that expose their lies in the
hope that they can intimidate them.
If Dan Christensen felt he had any chance to convince people directly
he would try to do so by posting facts and arguing facts.
He is reduced to snipping, posting the same snippets over and over
again, lies and slander.
As long as he and the rest of the "rat pack" (and their hangers on)
are reduced to that they expose" their own failure as Dan Christensen
does here every time.
Fine by me.
PL
"The Cuban government is based on lies and cheap propaganda. That is
why it is afraid of words and the truth."
Raul Rivero, April 2006, University of Sevilla