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The secrets of the Middle-East peace process - the secret plan of American Jews for Israel - why does the peace fail always?

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SecQrilious

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The secrets of the Middle-East peace process - the secret plan of
American Jews for Israel - why does the peace fail always?

Why shall not the Middle-East peace process be successful? Because the
American Jews do not want it to be successful, but it is an element of
the long-term strategy of American Jews and followers of Henry
Kissinger and Madeleine Albright to infiltrate and slowly take over
all occupied and Israeli controlled lands in the Middle-East. In fact,
Jews with the U.S. government want to fight weak Palestinians. This is
why you may hear in news that Ariel Sharon promises to withdraw from
the Gaza strip only to allow new Jewish settlements in Gaza, which is
also backed by the U.S. government lead by American Jews and their
backers. George W. Bush has been very heavily influenced by Henry
Kissinger, an internationally known criminal, who hijacked the U.S.
foreign policy, when Richard Nixon was fired and during the first oil
crises of the Western world in the beginning of the 1970s. It has been
American Jews and Henry Kissinger behind all these Israelis
expansionist influences in the Middle-East and they use the White
House as a bullpit rather than a pulpit has Ross Perot used to call
the White House during his failed Presidential campaign in 1996. So
the Jewish strategy in the Middle-East and elsewhere is "two steps in
and one step out" and so little by little infiltrating in the
Middle-East. Already today it is the vision of American Jews to
integrate Palestinians into the Israeli society and prevent the
establishment of the independent Palestinian state. In 1999 Hillary
Clinton made references to the independent Palestinian state only to
deceive Muslims, Islam and Palestinians with her well-planned lies.
American Jews control the White House and anybody who occupies the
White House and one should never trust the White House and their
promises. In the future Palestinians shall be lowered to become the
second class citizens in Israel or forced to exile, if Palestinians
can not counter Jews and the White House today and in the future. And
this is the truth.

Markku J. Saarelainen
The founder of the Spiked Octapoint Society (SOS)
"Save Our Souls"

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Norma

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Aug 24, 2004, 5:15:42 AM8/24/04
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"SecQrilious" <wa...@latinmail.com> wrote in message
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> 8/24/04
>
> The secrets of the Middle-East peace process - the secret plan of
> American Jews for Israel - why does the peace fail always?
>
> Why shall not the Middle-East peace process be successful? Because the
> American Jews do not want it to be successful, but it is an element of
> the long-term strategy of American Jews and followers of Henry
> Kissinger and Madeleine Albright to infiltrate and slowly take over
> all occupied and Israeli controlled lands in the Middle-East. In fact,
> Jews with the U.S. government want to fight weak Palestinians. This is
> why you may hear in news that Ariel Sharon promises to withdraw from
> the Gaza strip only to allow new Jewish settlements in Gaza,


What are you talking about? There are to be no new settlements in Gaza.
There was approval to build some new homes on present settlements on the
West Bank as long as they don't increase the size of the settlement. The
settlements are intended to be closed in the mind of Sharon.


which is
> also backed by the U.S. government lead by American Jews and their
> backers. George W. Bush has been very heavily influenced by Henry
> Kissinger, an internationally known criminal, who hijacked the U.S.
> foreign policy, when Richard Nixon was fired and during the first oil
> crises of the Western world in the beginning of the 1970s. It has been
> American Jews and Henry Kissinger behind all these Israelis
> expansionist influences in the Middle-East and they use the White
> House as a bullpit rather than a pulpit has Ross Perot used to call
> the White House during his failed Presidential campaign in 1996. So
> the Jewish strategy in the Middle-East and elsewhere is "two steps in
> and one step out" and so little by little infiltrating in the
> Middle-East. Already today it is the vision of American Jews to
> integrate Palestinians into the Israeli society and prevent the
> establishment of the independent Palestinian state. In 1999 Hillary
> Clinton made references to the independent Palestinian state only to
> deceive Muslims, Islam and Palestinians with her well-planned lies.
> American Jews control the White House and anybody who occupies the
> White House and one should never trust the White House and their
> promises. In the future Palestinians shall be lowered to become the
> second class citizens in Israel or forced to exile, if Palestinians
> can not counter Jews and the White House today and in the future. And
> this is the truth.


I get the point that you believe the Americans are after the Palestinians
and have told lies and influenced others who make decisions inappropriately
in your opinion, but then you this all breaks down into just accusations
with your disorganized comments. What is your point? The attempts for an
independent Palestine have been sincere, but it is Arafat who has sabotaged
that in so many ways. I think it is time to consider the leadership of the
PLO as the cause of much of the problems and issues and not just project to
outside sources. Norma

Inger E Johansson

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Aug 24, 2004, 7:19:37 AM8/24/04
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Norma and SecQrilious,
does it matter who's right or wrong when you are sending this to totally
wrong forum. Or would you please enlighten us what your discussion has to do
with soc.culture.nordic?

Inger E

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JBgarbuz

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Aug 24, 2004, 4:41:10 PM8/24/04
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SecQrilious <wa...@latinmail.com> wrote in message
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> 8/24/04
>
> The secrets of the Middle-East peace process - the secret plan of
> American Jews for Israel - why does the peace fail always?<

Because the Palestinians are not a nation, and hence have no ability to
create a nation-state.
The Kurds are an ancient nation, but have been denied by others to have
their own state, but the
instant they had some autonomy in northern Iraq, BINGO they were a
democratic de facto state, if
not in reality. When in 1920 the League of Nations declared the Jewish
homeland in palestine, BINGO
there was nearly a state in no time, officially declared in 1948. Because
the JEws have been a nation
without land for over 2000 years. As soon as they got some of their land
back, BOOM they were a
nation-state. But give the ARabs all the land, and all the time in the
world, and they can never make
a successful nation! WHy not? Because a nation is not land. A nation is a
PEOPLE with a national
identity! If that doesn't exist, then no land by itself will make a nation
out of nothing. If the Palestinians were a nation, they would have had a
state 60 years ago. In fact, they would have defeated the JEws. But not
being a nation, they have no success in creating a nation-state.

> Why shall not the Middle-East peace process be successful? Because the
> American Jews do not want it to be successful, but it is an element of
> the long-term strategy of American Jews and followers of Henry
> Kissinger and Madeleine Albright to infiltrate and slowly take over
> all occupied and Israeli controlled lands in the Middle-East. In fact,
> Jews with the U.S. government want to fight weak Palestinians. This is
> why you may hear in news that Ariel Sharon promises to withdraw from
> the Gaza strip only to allow new Jewish settlements in Gaza,<

You are ignorant as well as stupid. ALL SETTLEMENTS are to be disbanded in
Gaza. There are
no new settlements in the West Bank. There are about a thousand new HOMES to
be constructed
in the already existing settlement areas, most of them increasingly HI-RISE
so that they expand UP
rather than OUTWARDS. Please try to learn something so that you understand
what you're reading!

wer

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Aug 24, 2004, 6:56:56 PM8/24/04
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norm...@charter.net

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Aug 24, 2004, 6:52:38 PM8/24/04
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"Inger E Johansson" <inger_e....@notelia.com> wrote in message news:<dvFWc.101625$dP1.3...@newsc.telia.net>...

> Norma and SecQrilious,
> does it matter who's right or wrong when you are sending this to totally
> wrong forum. Or would you please enlighten us what your discussion has to do
> with soc.culture.nordic?

Frankly, I didn't look where it was going. Recently though I thought
of altering the groups and then got informed it was supposed to go to
that group. So did the other poster come from your group???

Susan Cohen

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