Wingers Lose Again
Cliff
"Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
[
Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom here soon
after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to concede.
]
[
The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the party has
represented parts of it since the 19th century.
The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation, drawing
in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties. Republicans who
viewed the race as a test of the party�s most deeply held conservative
principles � including Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska; Gov. Tim
Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and grass-roots groups that have
forcefully opposed Democratic economic and health care policies � rallied behind
Mr. Hoffman.
]
They had held that district since the 1800s ....
--
Cliff
Gray Ghost
news:p7v2f596kelnslacr...@4ax.com:
Owens got less than 50% dumbass. The whore who stabbed the Republicans in the
back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be back.
BTW did you notice the slaughter in VA? All 3 top office to one party, been
awhile that that happened. And the margins? 60 - 40?
And New Jersy? Blue state in the tank for Obammy?
You might want to climb out of the pitcher of Kool-aide and take a hard look
around.
ArmyOfDorkness
"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CB961B706FD0We...@216.196.97.142...
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
> news:p7v2f596kelnslacr...@4ax.com:
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>> [
>> Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom
>> here soon after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to
>> concede.
>> ]
>> [
>> The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the
>> party has represented parts of it since the 19th century.
>>
>> The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation,
>> drawing in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties.
>> Republicans who viewed the race as a test of the party's most deeply held
>> conservative principles - including Sarah Palin, the former governor of
>> Alaska; Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and
>> grass-roots groups that have forcefully opposed Democratic economic and
>> health care policies - rallied behind Mr. Hoffman.
>> ]
>>
>> They had held that district since the 1800s ....
>
> Owens got less than 50% dumbass. The whore who stabbed the Republicans in
> the
> back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be back.
Unless he finds another place to carpetbag.
Gray Ghost
news:upKdnckP79ViB2zX...@giganews.com:
Spin, spin, spin, spin.
Getting dizzy yet?
You don't want to get into who the carpetbaggers really are, all the
Massachusetts scumbags who went out to poison the nation.
Scott
> Spin, spin, spin, spin.
>
> Getting dizzy yet?
>
> You don't want to get into who the carpetbaggers really are, all the
> Massachusetts scumbags who went out to poison the nation.
And lets not forget the #1 carpetbaggers, the Clintons.
Scott
> Owens got less than 50% dumbass. The whore who stabbed the Republicans in
> the
> back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be back.
>
> BTW did you notice the slaughter in VA? All 3 top office to one party,
> been
> awhile that that happened. And the margins? 60 - 40?
>
> And New Jersy? Blue state in the tank for Obammy?
>
> You might want to climb out of the pitcher of Kool-aide and take a hard
> look
> around.
Maybe Obama should stop playing rock star, sending his ole lady off to Mylie
Cyrus concerts with tweens (wonder what that little stunt cost the
taxpayers), keep one or two of the promises he made, stop blaming Bush for
every failure he creates, and begin to act like a fucking President. Of
course, with hardened bigoted lemmings like Cliffy and the rest of the
liberal nutbars supporting him simply because he is not a Republican, he
will blunder along as he has for the past year and get *nothing* positive
done. Give the lefties enough rope and they hang themselves.
Bret Cahill
> >>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right " [
> >>> Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom
> >>> here soon after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to
> >>> concede.
> >>> ]
> >>> [
> >>> The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the
> >>> party has represented parts of it since the 19th century.
>
> >>> The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation,
> >>> drawing in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties.
> >>> Republicans who viewed the race as a test of the party's most deeply held
> >>> conservative principles - including Sarah Palin, the former governor of
> >>> Alaska; Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and
> >>> grass-roots groups that have forcefully opposed Democratic economic and
> >>> health care policies - rallied behind Mr. Hoffman.
> >>> ]
>
> >>> They had held that district since the 1800s ....
>
> >> Owens got less than 50% dumbass. The whore who stabbed the Republicans in
> >> the back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be back.
>
> > Unless he finds another place to carpetbag.
>
> Spin, spin, spin, spin.
This may be the first of the races where the Repug is the 3rd party
candidate.
Bret Cahill
Iarnrod
wrote:
> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote innews:p7v2f596kelnslacr...@4ax.com:
>
>
>
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
> > "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
> > [
> > Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom
> > here soon after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to
> > concede.
> > ]
> > [
> > The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the
> > party has represented parts of it since the 19th century.
>
> > The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation,
> > drawing in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties.
> > Republicans who viewed the race as a test of the party’s most deeply held
> > conservative principles — including Sarah Palin, the former governor of
> > Alaska; Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and
> > grass-roots groups that have forcefully opposed Democratic economic and
> > health care policies — rallied behind Mr. Hoffman.
> > ]
>
> > They had held that district since the 1800s ....
>
> Owens got less than 50% dumbass.
Hoffman got less than Owens, dumber ass.
> The whore who stabbed the Republicans in the
> back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be back.
Maybe he should run in his own district, eh?
Tater Gumfries
All RINOs, by Limbaugh's standard. We need to get some real committed
creationist libertarians in there.
Tater
Bret Cahill
This has happened before. Repugs took Keyes out of MD to run for
senate against a Democrat a few years ago and the Democrat won.
Bret Cahill
bvallely
By: Michael Barone
Senior Political Analyst
11/04/09 3:08 AM EST
My Wednesday Examiner column, written as the 2009 election returns
were coming in, stands up pretty well. But let me add some
observations written as the course of the elections became clearer.
First, in the governor elections in Virginia and New Jersey, the
Democratic candidate ran far behind Barack Obama’s percentages in 2008
and the Republican candidates ran ahead of George W. Bush’s
percentages in 2004. The numbers are pretty daunting. In Virginia
Creigh Deeds won 41% of the votes, way behind Barack Obama’s 53% in
2008. And in New Jersey Democratic incumbent Jon Corzine won 45% of
the votes, way behind Obama’s 57% in 2008.
In contrast, the Republican candidates won higher percentages than
Bush won in the recent high-water mark of the Republican party in
2004. Republican Bob McDonnell won 59% in Virginia, well ahead of
Bush’s 54%. And Republican Chris Christie won 49%, ahead of Bush’s
46%. On the basis of these numbers you could say—in races where the
issues were reasonably congruent though not identical to national
issues—that Democrats were performing far below their recent optimal
levels and Republicans were performing well above them.
Second, and here I want to credit for this observations longtime
Democratic pollster and political analyst Pat Caddell, affluent
suburban voters moved sharply toward Republicans in 2009.
Bergen County, New Jersey, a 56%-42% Corzine constituency in 2005,
came within a point or two of voting for Christie, and in Virginia
McDonnell carried 51%-49% Fairfax County—Republican for years but
recently in cultural issues and with an increasing immigrant
population Democratic (60%-39% Obama in 2008). I
n addition, Westchester County, New York, voted 58%-42% for a
Republican county execctive after voting almost exactly the opposite
way, in a race involving the same two candidates, four years before .
The Philadelphia suburban counties, increasingly Democratic in 1996,
2000, 2004 and 2008, voted Republican in a partisan race for the
Supreme Court in 2009.
From the 1996 election up through and including 2008., affluent
counties in the East, Midwest and West have trended Democratic,
largely through distaste for the religious and cultural conservatives
whom voters there have seen (not without reason) as dominant in the
Republican party. Now, with the specter of higher tax rates and a
vastly expanded public sector, they may be—possibly—headed in the
other direction. An interesting trend to watch.
Finally, third, what will be the impact of these elections on
forthcoming votes in Congress on the Democratic leaddership’s
controversial and unpopular health legislation. The Virginia Board of
Elections give us some hints when it aggregates the results by
congressional district. In the 2008 elections three Democrats captured
three previously Republican congressional districts in Virginia,
giving Democrats six or the eleven-member delegation.
The results of the gubernatorial election show that at least some of
these Democrats are imperiled.
In the 2nd congressional district, where Democrat Glenn Nye beat
Republican incumbent Thelma Drake 52%-47%, McDonnell beat Deeds
62%-38%. In the 5th congressional district, where Democrat Tom
Perriello beat Republican incumbent Virgil Goode 50.01%-49.85%, or a
margin of 727 popular votes, the lowest in the country, McDonnell beat
Deeds 61%-39%. In the 11th congressional district, where Democrat
Gerry Connally won 55%-43% a district vacated by Republican incumbent
Tom Davis, McDonnell beat Deeds 55%-45%. And the southwest, coal-
producing “Fighting Ninth,” represented since 1982 by Democrat Rick
Boucher, voted 67%-33% for McDonnell.
I cannot imagine that Congressmen Nye, Perriello, Connally and Boucher
have not already accessed the websites which have shown the position
of their constituents in a contest which, while like all governorship
contests has its own specific features, was also in its contrast on
issue positions reasonably congruent with those prevailing on national
issues. And I can certainly respond with sympathy if any or all of
these incumbents responded to these numbers with a two-word comment of
which I will relay only the first word which is, “Oh.”
The 2009 election results are certainly not going to make it easy for
Speaker Nancy Pelosi to round up the needed 218 votes for Democrats’
health care bills.
Robert
Dede Scozzofava a Republican?
And the difference between her and a Democrat is what?
Bret Cahill
That's what Repugs were telling us for 11 years.
> And the difference between her and a Democrat is what?
She belongs to a third party and a Democrat belongs to a major party
-- the _only_ major party.
Bret Cahill
Gray Ghost
news:e6e47f90-7467-440a...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
>> >>> �http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
Doesn't bother me, Repugs like Scuzzy ain't my bag. if anything I'm a
conservative. The big tent will include us or they can go by the wayside.
Gray Ghost
a74aeb...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Hey dumbass, you check the Virginia and New Jersey results?
Bret Cahill
>
> > That's what Repugs were telling us for 11 years.
>
> >> And the difference between her and a Democrat is what?
>
> > She belongs to a third party and a Democrat belongs to a major party
> > -- the _only_ major party.
> Hey dumbass, you check the Virginia and New Jersey results?
Libertarian Party candidates sometimes win elections too.
Bret Cahill
Bret Cahill
> >> >> Republicans in the back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be
> >> >> back.
>
> >> > Unless he finds another place to carpetbag.
>
> >> Spin, spin, spin, spin.
>
> > This may be the first of the races where the Repug is the 3rd party
> > candidate.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> Doesn't bother me, Repugs like Scuzzy ain't my bag. if anything I'm a
> conservative. The big tent will include us
The issue is if the shrinking GOP tent will include moderates.
> or they can go by the wayside.
Looks like the GOP is going by the wayside.
Bret Cahill
Gray Ghost
5dffc6...@g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Did you see how the New Jersey and Virginia elections turned out?
Gray Ghost
f74ef7...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
Dizzy from the spinning yet?
Fred B. Brown
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
news:p7v2f596kelnslacr...@4ax.com...
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
> [
> Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom here
> soon
> after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to concede.
> ]
> [
> The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the
> party has
> represented parts of it since the 19th century.
>
> The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation,
> drawing
> in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties. Republicans who
> viewed the race as a test of the party's most deeply held conservative
> Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and grass-roots groups that
> have
> Mr. Hoffman.
> ]
>
> They had held that district since the 1800s ....
> --
> Cliff
Hoffman will be back in 2010, Tuesday's election was for one year. Next year
Dede won't be on the ballot. Hoffman did great considering having no
political
experience and the short time he had to campaign.
The Wandering Poet
wrote:
You may be many things, but a conservative, you ain't.
Lookout
The district is gone after 2010 you idiot.
Lookout
Uhh..little george was educated in the north you idiot then claimed
Texas as home. THAT'S a carpet bagger.
ArmyOfDorkness
"Robert" <Rober...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eab21a02-3831-4875...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 4, 10:54 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Dede Scozzofava a Republican?
> And the difference between her and a Democrat is what?
One is unemployed and the other is a state representative. Can you figure
out which is which?
ArmyOfDorkness
"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CB9828F59691We...@216.196.97.142...
Why should anyone not from those states care?
ArmyOfDorkness
"Fred B. Brown" <fredb...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4af1d42d$0$315$bb4e...@newscene.com...
He's not from that district. Maybe he'll find somewhere else to carpetbag.
r wiley
"ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5amdnZusUa6Rnm_X...@giganews.com...
>
>
> He's not from that district. Maybe he'll find somewhere else to carpetbag.
Is that how you felt about Bobby Kennedy and Hillary Clinton?
rw
ArmyOfDorkness
"r wiley" <raw...@southslope.net> wrote in message
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Yes. Unfortunately they won. Bummer
tankfixer
@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Rober...@msn.com says...
>
> On Nov 4, 10:54 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Dede Scozzofava a Republican?
> And the difference between her and a Democrat is what?
She was more liberal then the Democrat...
Sid9
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.255bf2b...@news.bytemine.net...
.
Rush, Sarah, Glen did a great job!
Please send them top Florida.
We have a moderate, Crist, running for the Senate.
Mark Rubio will be much more to the liking of Rush, Sarah, and
Glen......You can come, too!
Sid9
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:mmm4f59il6kont872...@4ax.com...
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>
> right that ran against him?
>
> Man, nice spin. In a day of Democrat disasters, you go toilet bowl
> fishing and come up with one race that came out about the way people
> predicted. Somehow that makes all the D losses of no matter at all.
>
> Amazin'
Rush, Sarah, and Glen did a great job.
Send them to Florida next!
Lookout
wrote:
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>
>Which right is that? The right that supported the Democrat or the
>right that ran against him?
>
>Man, nice spin. In a day of Democrat disasters, you go toilet bowl
>fishing and come up with one race that came out about the way people
>predicted. Somehow that makes all the D losses of no matter at all.
>
>Amazin'
Ya..the own the White House and both houses of Congress. They're
really hurting.
Iarnrod
> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
Uh, he lost. He will lose again. He couldn't even been a Dem in a
district that hasn't had a Dem since Ulysses Grant was POTUS, and
which voted 65 percent GOP only a year ago. Oh the times, they are a-
changin'!
Gray Ghost
news:wZKdnaNIAbYcYWzX...@giganews.com:
SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN!!!
Cliff
Let's not forget papa ... claimed Texas (no state income taxes)
but had no home there ...
Any of the rest of us that tried to pull that would probably
end up in jail ....
--
Cliff
Cliff
>
>"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9CB961B706FD0We...@216.196.97.142...
>
>> Owens got less than 50% dumbass. The whore who stabbed the Republicans in
>> the
>> back is partially responsible. Hoffman will be back.
>>
>> BTW did you notice the slaughter in VA? All 3 top office to one party,
>> been
>> awhile that that happened. And the margins? 60 - 40?
>>
>> And New Jersy? Blue state in the tank for Obammy?
>>
>> You might want to climb out of the pitcher of Kool-aide and take a hard
>> look
>> around.
>
>Maybe Obama should stop playing rock star, sending his ole lady off to Mylie
>Cyrus concerts with tweens (wonder what that little stunt cost the
>taxpayers), keep one or two of the promises he made, stop blaming Bush for
>every failure he creates, and begin to act like a fucking President. Of
>course, with hardened bigoted lemmings like Cliffy and the rest of the
>liberal nutbars supporting him simply because he is not a Republican, he
>will blunder along as he has for the past year and get *nothing* positive
>done. Give the lefties enough rope and they hang themselves.
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_election_rdp
>
>
Found those "WMDs" yet?
Or paid off the rethug debts of about 11 trillion
(with many more to come due soon)?
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Hoffman will be back in 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l9ocz8jlKs
HTH
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>
>Which right is that? The right that supported the Democrat or the
>right that ran against him?
>
>Man, nice spin. In a day of Democrat disasters, you go toilet bowl
>fishing and come up with one race that came out about the way people
>predicted. Somehow that makes all the D losses of no matter at all.
>
>Amazin'
This was a federal office, not a local one.
Obama is hardly likely to run for mayor ....
And no neocon could get elected as dogcatcher.
--
Cliff
Lookout
No doubt
ArmyOfDorkness
"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CBAF6EE69D2We...@216.196.97.142...
Are you dizzy yet? It's hard to tell.
Gray Ghost
_XnZ2dnUV...@giganews.com:
Huh? Did you say something. Why would I need to spin? My team won.
robert bowman
> Man, nice spin. In a day of Democrat disasters, you go toilet bowl
> fishing and come up with one race that came out about the way people
> predicted. Somehow that makes all the D losses of no matter at all.
At least the 23rd got its 5 minutes of fame. Last year, 99% of the Dems
claiming an overwhelming victory couldn't have found it on a map.
robert bowman
> Ya..the own the White House and both houses of Congress. They're
> really hurting.
Yup, considering their astounding lack of accomplishment on all fronts. As
you were, they did manage to vote themselves their pay raise, or I should
say, not vote, considering how it's structured.
Iarnrod
wrote:
> "ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAsKni...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:wvidnZnKW_y-R2
> _XnZ2dnUVZ_tmdn...@giganews.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns9CBAF6EE69D2We...@216.196.97.142...
> >> "ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAsKni...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>news:wZKdnaNIAbYcYWzX...@giganews.com:
>
> >>> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Xns9CB9828F59691We...@216.196.97.142...
> >>>> Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote in news:d58edd7d-6b5e-45b7-a38c-
> >>>> 5dffc69be...@g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>>>> >> >> Owens got less than 50% dumbass. The whore who stabbed the
> >>>>>> >> >> Republicans in the back is partially responsible. Hoffman will
> >>>>>> >> >> be back.
>
> >>>>>> >> > Unless he finds another place to carpetbag.
>
> >>>>>> >> Spin, spin, spin, spin.
>
> >>>>>> > This may be the first of the races where the Repug is the 3rd party
> >>>>>> > candidate.
>
> >>>>>> > Bret Cahill
>
> >>>>>> Doesn't bother me, Repugs like Scuzzy ain't my bag. if anything I'm a
> >>>>>> conservative. The big tent will include us
>
> >>>>> The issue is if the shrinking GOP tent will include moderates.
>
> >>>>>> or they can go by the wayside.
>
> >>>>> Looks like the GOP is going by the wayside.
>
> >>>>> Bret Cahill
>
> >>>> Did you see how the New Jersey and Virginia elections turned out?
>
> >>> Why should anyone not from those states care?
>
> >> SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN!!!
>
> > Are you dizzy yet? It's hard to tell.
>
> Huh? Did you say something. Why would I need to spin? My team won.
Owens was your candidate then? I thought you were a redopican.
Lookout
You won two local elections. The Dems won another seat in the House of
Representatives..a seat that has been republican since the Civil War.
Now tell me...which elected official of the 3 can do anything that
affects you. You don't live in New Jersey or in Virginia so those
don't have any affect on you. However the new democrat can vote for
laws and bills that directly affect you.
Obama and the liberals have another vote in Congress. Now spin that up
your ass!
r_c_...@hushmail.com
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:46:28 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:
> >news:Xns9CB9691AE596We...@216.196.97.142...
>
> >> Spin, spin, spin, spin.
>
> >> Getting dizzy yet?
>
> >> You don't want to get into who the carpetbaggers really are, all the
> >> Massachusetts scumbags who went out to poison the nation.
>
> >And lets not forget the #1 carpetbaggers, the Clintons.
>
> Uhh..little george was educated in the north you idiot then claimed
> Texas as home. THAT'S a carpet bagger.
Mr. Bush was born in Connecticut, raised in Texas, finished high
school in Massachusetts, attended Yale and Harvard, and returned to
Texas, where he has spent most of his life.
People are allowed to move around in these United States.
There are plenty of things to complain about with respect to Mr. Bush;
claiming "carpet bagging" is a stretch at best.
Iarnrod
wrote:
> Mr. Bush was born in Connecticut.
So he says, but he's never released his vault copy long form birth
certificate with the doctor's name.
Bert Hyman
Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Unless you're claiming that Bush's parents weren't American citizens, it
doesn't matter where he was born.
After all this "birth certificate" nonsense, I'm surprised you don't
know that.
Wait ... I take that back; I'm not really surprised.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Gray Ghost
6409-4c95-a75...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
Hillary Clinton, carpet muncher or carpet bagger?
Jim Moran, grew up in Mass, now polluting VA 8th District
Pelosi grew up in Maryland now polluting the entire country from San
Francisco.
The Kennedys, like a cancer spreading through the country.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Gray Ghost
news:5853f4ff-28e0-4895...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
Sorry shrill harpie. If you think NY-23 is more important than the
governorships of Virginia and New Jersey, you are naive or think we are.
Keep whistling past the graveyard, hag, we'll see on Judgement Day.
Gray Ghost
news:tsr5f5tj38vf8ij2m...@4ax.com:
Local? Hey stupid New Jersey is a deep blue state. Obama spent tiem and
resourcs in New Jersey.
Are you so stupid that you don't get that New Jersey's loss is the most
telling race of the night? Or are you hoping that we are so stupid that we
don't get it?
Either way, spin all you like. Judgement Day is coming. I guess we'll see who
is right and who the Kool-Aide drinker is.
Lookout
Lookout
You need an anger management course
Lookout
Uh..a vote in the House of Representatives is much more important
than a governor's race.
>
Lookout
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
He made ONE visit as far as I know. Prove what he spent there.
>
>Are you so stupid that you don't get that New Jersey's loss is the most
>telling race of the night? Or are you hoping that we are so stupid that we
>don't get it?
Nope. You're just wrong again.
>Either way, spin all you like. Judgement Day is coming. I guess we'll see who
>is right and who the Kool-Aide drinker is.
What is judgment day?
Lookout
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in crayon...
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>>[
>>Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom here soon
>>after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to concede.
>>]
>>[
>>The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the party has
>>represented parts of it since the 19th century.
>>
>>The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation, drawing
>>in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties. Republicans who
>>viewed the race as a test of the party�s most deeply held conservative
>>principles � including Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska; Gov. Tim
>>Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and grass-roots groups that have
>>forcefully opposed Democratic economic and health care policies � rallied behind
>>Mr. Hoffman.
>>]
>>
>> They had held that district since the 1800s ....
>
>The election in the New York 23rd Congressional district didn't make
>national headlines until Hoffman entered the race because he felt
>Scozzafava did not represent the Republican Party. The truth is
>Scozzafava was not a good representative for Republican Party. Her
>candidacy flew under the radar becuase she was chosen by a local GOP
>committee. The race might have been different if they had they luxury
>of a primary. Hoffman wasn't heard of until Fred and Jeri Thompson
>made it an issue on their radio show. Hoffman entered the race too
>late and Scozzafava left the race too late. On election day,
>Scozzafava was still on the ballot which in effect made her a spoiler.
>Hoffman trailed the Democrat by only a couple of percentage points. If
>Scozzafava wasn't in the race, Hoffman would have probably won. So it
>was no big defeat for the Republicans.
The held the seat since the Civil War. Of course it's a huge defeat
for the republicans. That seat also was the last republican in
Congress from New England.
>The bigger loses were in New Jersey and Virginia where the main issues
>were the economy and unemployment.
Those issues are LOCAL issues. It meant nothing to the rest of the
nation.
Strabo
Carpet baggers are motivated by political opportunism and are very much
a factor in modern America. Florida is also an example. George 'just
happens' to become governor of Texas and Jeb 'just happens' to become
governor of Florida. All part of federalist's reconstruction efforts to
use state power to destroy the culture.
A large proportion of the California government are from New York,
Connecticut, Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania or Massachusetts.
Why? Because that's the base of Communism in America and that's
typically where Communist missionaries originate.
RD (The Sandman)
@newsfe22.iad:
Do you wear your hat with the shiny side in or out? Inquiring minds wish
to know.
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
tankfixer
says...
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.255bf2b...@news.bytemine.net...
> > In article <eab21a02-3831-4875-aaf9-36a398d58c97
> > @b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Rober...@msn.com says...
> >>
> >> On Nov 4, 10:54 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dede Scozzofava a Republican?
> >> And the difference between her and a Democrat is what?
> >
> > She was more liberal then the Democrat...
> .
> .
>
> Rush, Sarah, Glen did a great job!
>
> Please send them top Florida.
>
> We have a moderate, Crist, running for the Senate.
>
> Mark Rubio will be much more to the liking of Rush, Sarah, and
> Glen......You can come, too!
watch the leftits cower and whine..
Its so much fun.
r_c_...@hushmail.com
That's mildly amusing, given the "birther" nonsense.
However, it doesn't address the point I made:
Lookout
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in crayon...
>If anything, the election was about Dummycratic leadership. It was an
>"It's the economy, Stupid" moment.
That's not what the voters who were polled said. You're wrong
Strabo
Do you think that New Yorkers Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Jane
Harman and Marylander Nancy Pelosi just stumbled cross country and into
California politics?
CALIFORNIA From CA
Senators
Dianne Feinstein (D) No
Barbara Boxer (D) No
Representatives
Democrats
Jane Harman (D) No
*Tom Lantos (D) No
Bob Filner (D) No
Adam Schiff (D) No
Susan Davis (D) No
Brad Sherman (D) Yes
Howard Berman (D) Yes
Henry Waxman (D) Yes
Sally Lieber (D) No
Joe Baca (D) No
Loretta Sanchez (D) No
Mike Thompson (D) No
Grace Napolitano (D) No
Nancy Pelosi (D) No
Ellen Tauscher (D) No
Jerry McNerney (D) No
Anna Eshoo (D) No
George Miller (D) Yes
Xavier Becerra (D) Yes
Hilda Solis (D) Yes
Diane Watson (D) Yes
Luc. Roybal-Allard (D) Yes
Linda S�nchez (D) Yes
Dennis Cardoza (D) Yes
Jim Costa (D) Yes
Sam Farr (D) Yes
Doris Matsui (D) No
Lynn C. Woolsey (D) No
Barbara Lee (D) No
Pete Stark (D) No
Lois Capps (D) No
Maxine Waters (D) No
Laura Richardson (D) Yes
Mike Honda (D) Yes
Zoe Lofgren (D) Yes
===========================
Of these 35 Democrats
55% (19) are NOT from California (North East and Chicago)
50% (17) are Catholic
23% (8) are Jewish
26% (9) are other religions
52% (18) are Female
=============================
* Dead
nobody
wrote:
At least twice.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/0709/Obama_campaigning_for_Corzine.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28872.html
"Both Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden have campaigned for
Corzine in the state, and Obama has cut television and radio ads for
the governor. This Sunday, on the final weekend of the campaign, the
president is returning to New Jersey for two events to try to pull
Corzine over the finish line."
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:58:11 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>>>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>>>
>>>Which right is that? The right that supported the Democrat or the
>>>right that ran against him?
>>>
>>>Man, nice spin. In a day of Democrat disasters, you go toilet bowl
>>>fishing and come up with one race that came out about the way people
>>>predicted. Somehow that makes all the D losses of no matter at all.
>>>
>>>Amazin'
>>
>> This was a federal office, not a local one.
>> Obama is hardly likely to run for mayor ...
>
>Nor would he be likely to win.
>
>> And no neocon could get elected as dogcatcher.
>
>Agreed. NeoCons are thoroughly dead and whipped. For now. But they
>do keep popping up in history.
>
>But the Dems will be taking on Republicans ranging from conservative,
>through moderate, to right down liberal. And they will be taking on
>strengthened Conservative and Libertarian party candidates too. I
>wouldn't be so quick to count the Dem chickens in that battle.
One could dispose of all the rethugs & still have plenty of conservatives
in the demoratic party alone.
At least we would get debate & argument.
--
Cliff
Gray Ghost
news:uha8f5h504k7qeaii...@4ax.com:
Dispose? And how would you do that?
RD (The Sandman)
news:DMRIm.1302$W77...@newsfe11.iad:
There is a large percentage of folks in California who are not originally
from there. They didn't all come as the guests of the Communist Party.
Iarnrod
> Innews:86b351d2-5671-49a5...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com
>
> Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 10:00 am, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Mr. Bush was born in Connecticut.
>
> > So he says, but he's never released his vault copy long form birth
> > certificate with the doctor's name.
>
> Unless you're claiming that Bush's parents weren't American citizens, it
> doesn't matter where he was born.
Well, aside from that being a fase assumption -- it is possible for
two US citizens to have a child who is not a natural born citizen --
how do we know GHWB and Barbara were citizens? See, no one ever
demanded proof. We just took their word for it.
> After all this "birth certificate" nonsense, I'm surprised you don't
> know that.
<snicker> Why would I want to know something that is false, Bert?
What you "think" you know isn't so.
> Wait ... I take that back; I'm not really surprised.
Of course, because you're a dope who thinks he's right.
Lookout
Wow. Twice.
Lookout
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>The governors lost their election because of the economy. What is your
>best guess why Corzine and Deeds lost?
No doubt the bush recession was partly to blame.
Iarnrod
wrote:
> On Nov 5, 9:08 am,Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 5, 10:00 am, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Mr. Bush was born in Connecticut.
>
> > So he says, but he's never released his vault copy long form birth
> > certificate with the doctor's name.
>
> That's mildly amusing, given the "birther" nonsense.
>
> However, it doesn't address the point I made:
>
> Mr. Bush was born in Connecticut,
Umm, you only think that because you were told.
Seriously, where's the proof?
See how this gets played? Obama's actually proven his NBC, yet
birthers pretend he hasn't.
Bert Hyman
Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> how do we know GHWB and Barbara were citizens?
How do we know you're not a slime mold?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
TinLizziedl
grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com says...
Raffle hunting licences- bag limit of 3 social conservatives per
license. After a couple of seasons, the Republican party might once
again be more interested in economic policy than forcing their brand of
morality down everyones' throats.
Use the money as seed money for loans to entrepreneurs.
--
Tin Lizzie
"To delight in war is a merit in the soldier, a dangerous quality in the
captain, and a positive crime in the statesman." - George Santayana
Strabo
And they aren't placed in positions of power.
Sen. Barbara Boxer is member of CPUSA. http://cpusa.org/
The CPUSA is just one of many. There's the Democratic Socialists of
America, DSA and Social Democrats USA, SDUSA among others.
"While the freedoms of democratic capitalism are gains of popular
struggle to be cherished, democratic socialists argue that the values of
liberal democracy can only be fulfilled when the economy as well as the
state is democratically controlled."
"fundamental restructuring of our socio-economic order"
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html
A chief Democratic Socialists' goal working within the Democratic Party.
ACORN come to mind?
It's not as though this is a secret.
There's Congress' "Progressive Caucus", approximately 60 members,
including Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and John Conyers.
These are Communists/Socialists whose beliefs and actions are
antithetical to the best interests of America.
How One Becomes A Socialist/Communist Political Leader
Once identified as suitable material, sometimes due to family contacts,
sometimes while in college, they were selected, groomed and handled by
Socialist organizations. Jobs were provided and even mates. Each is
married to a millionaire businessman.
Condolezza Rice and Madelaine Albright were similarly chosen, trained
and strategically placed.
Strabo
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:54:39 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> There is a large percentage of folks in California who are not originally
>>from there. They didn't all come as the guests of the Communist Party.
>
>
Most of the Bush staff were Neocons. Neocons are Zionists or
Trotskyites. Trotskyites are the globalist version of
Communist/Socialist.
Bert Hyman
wrote:
> HymenLoon
My goodness, but that's a well thought out and convincing argument you
offer.
You were captain of your school's debate team, weren't you?
Cliff
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in crayon...
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/nyregion/04district.html
>> "Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right "
>>[
>>Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom here soon
>>after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to concede.
>>]
>>[
>>The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the party has
>>represented parts of it since the 19th century.
>>
>>The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation, drawing
>>in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties. Republicans who
>>viewed the race as a test of the party�s most deeply held conservative
>>principles � including Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska; Gov. Tim
>>Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and grass-roots groups that have
>>forcefully opposed Democratic economic and health care policies � rallied behind
>>Mr. Hoffman.
>>]
>>
>> They had held that district since the 1800s ....
>
>The election in the New York 23rd Congressional district didn't make
>national headlines until Hoffman entered the race because he felt
>Scozzafava did not represent the Republican Party. The truth is
>Scozzafava was not a good representative for Republican Party. Her
>candidacy flew under the radar becuase she was chosen by a local GOP
>committee.
So, if you are a rethug you must NOT be chosen by the folks in
the area to be represented, right?
Instead Rush, Palin & a rich guy in Arkansas must choose
who will be marching to THEIR flag & taking their orders.
>The race might have been different if they had they luxury
>of a primary. Hoffman wasn't heard of until Fred and Jeri Thompson
>made it an issue on their radio show.
Top-down buffonery, right?
Is that like trickle-down?
Down whose leg, exactly?
>Hoffman entered the race too
>late
And winger stupidity is whose fault?
>and Scozzafava left the race too late. On election day,
>Scozzafava was still on the ballot which in effect made her a spoiler.
>Hoffman trailed the Democrat by only a couple of percentage points. If
>Scozzafava wasn't in the race, Hoffman would have probably won. So it
>was no big defeat for the Republicans.
CLUE: Scozzafava was the republican.
>The bigger loses were in New Jersey and Virginia where the main issues
>were the economy and unemployment.
>
>-
>
>
>
>"Communism only works in Heaven, where they don't need it,
>it and in Hell, where they already have it"
>
>-President Ronald Reagan
His astrologer said to say that, right?
--
Cliff
RD (The Sandman)
news:jC0Jm.3570$%j4....@newsfe18.iad:
Ah, yes.....the old Trilateral Commission under a different name.....
Gray Ghost
@news.west.earthlink.net:
Tell you what cupcake, anytime you want to harvest me, you come visit.
My, such violent people, they just can't wait to kill the people they
disagree with.
Cliff
gummer & buddies ...
What did DeadEye Dick have against lawyers?
--
Cliff
TinLizziedl
grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com says...
Oooh- Turn about is NOT fair play. I get tired of all the BS social-
conservatives spout trying to justify their ultimate expression of
Darwinian Selection. I wish the Republicans would drop their BS social
agenda and get back to helping this country make money, and you get
offended. I'm sorry that you care nothing for the economy in your
overzealous need to legislate your particular morality.
Why don't you go form your own party rather than hijack the GOP, which
was originally a party for Fiscal Conservatives who desired LESS
government intervention in their lives?
--
Tin Lizzie
"Elephant: A mouse built to government specifications."-Lazarus Long
Gunner Asch
wrote:
This comeing from someone who wants Socialism?????
Make up your fucking mind!
Gunner
Lookout
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>Your best guess shows you haven't a clue. My best guess is that you
>are a moron.
>
>I see you are like that idiot Barack Obama who blames Bush for his
>failure to do his job.
Nope, not at all like Obama. I came to this conclusion long before
Obama entered national politics. Even your republican party head for
the last election blamed bush.
X-Complaints-To: ab...@tornevall.net... that reminds me of a nym
shifting troll who used to use that IP.
Welcome to my filter. Again.
RD (The Sandman)
news:Xns9CBC12D62BB2BWe...@216.196.97.142:
And those are the ones who are usually anti-gun. Seems like transference
to me.
Iarnrod
> Innews:71d7bc38-0e82-44a0...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
>
> Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > how do we know GHWB and Barbara were citizens?
>
> How do we know you're not a slime mold?
Because I am smarter than you, KKKook.
Evasion noted. You can't prove your claim. But I knew you couldn't.
Been fun kicking your ass! Buh-bye!
Iarnrod
> Innews:a379f5lgr0r8uaavb...@4ax.comsmor...@board.com
> wrote:
>
> > HymenLoon
>
> My goodness, but that's a well thought out and convincing argument you
> offer.
Like yours, "Slime mold?" BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!! Pwned!
pyjamarama
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:34:48 -0800, Gunner Asch
>
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> >This comeing from someone who wants Socialism?????
>
> "socialism" about 30 times a day?
This coming from someone who's been kicked off at least one ISP for
threatening to kill a duly elected government official?
GARY ROSELLES (aka "liberal@idiot...") left-wing sociopath and author
of the following “views” on race, homosexuality, death-threats and,
lest we forget, killing govt. officials and teenage girls:
"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles
"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore.
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source
“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source
>
> >========================================================================== ========
> >"The great masses' receptive ability is only very limited, their understanding
> >is small, but their forgetfullness is great. As a consequence
> >of these facts, all effective propagana has to limit itself only to a
> >very few points and use them like slogans until even the very last man
> >is able to imagine what is intended by such a word.
> > Adolph Hitler
> > Mein Kampf
Cliff
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>I see you are like that idiot Barack Obama who blames Bush for his
>failure to do his job.
But bushco did do a job.
On almost all of us.
Between vacations.
--
Cliff
Cliff
<Right...@vrwc-dm.com> wrote:
>The Republican doesn't need Liberals. That's what the Democratic and
>the Communist parties are for, left wingnuts.
So the locals get no say in the pre-selected autocrats, eh?
Why then should they vote for them?
Just because Rush & Palin & a guy from Arkansas said to (or else)?
The guy did not even live in the district & had no clues about
local issues. *Wtat mattered to the people there*.
So who will be chosen as your next dictator (and by
what secret cabal)?
>> Instead Rush, Palin & a rich guy in Arkansas must choose
>>who will be marching to THEIR flag & taking their orders.
>
>They do not make choices. They just echo their opinion on how the GOP
>should be represented.
They just echo themselves ... and based on that YOU know, right?
Pretty stupid. Winger.
>You cannot deny the fact Scozzafava being pro-choice, pro-stimulus,
>pro-cap and trade, pro-ObamaCare and pro-card check is not part of the
>GOP platform.
So what?
Since when did the "GOP platform" matter even to a repub?
It's just a list of their advertising slogans. They DO the
exact opposite much/most of the time.
If you buy their slogans you get whet you deserve.
Oops ... you just did. Starting with a federal government
about twice the size it was under Clinton and an 11 trillion
dollar debt, .... plus a tanked economy .....
And a LOT of repubs in jail or caught with their mistresses ...
It's like SureShot's gay daughter bashing gays ...
Wingers lie. It's job #1.
>>>The race might have been different if they had they luxury
>>>of a primary. Hoffman wasn't heard of until Fred and Jeri Thompson
>>>made it an issue on their radio show.
>>
>> Top-down buffonery, right?
>> Is that like trickle-down?
>
>The reason why Dummycrats wouldn't mind Scozzafava is because she
>supports their harebrained legislation and they would nothing more
>than to have a RINO on their side because one RINO vote means they
>could con the American people in saying a bill is bipartisan.
Then it's too bad for the dems then as a dem got elected,
right?
>>
>> Down whose leg, exactly?
>>
>>>Hoffman entered the race too
>>>late
>>
>> And winger stupidity is whose fault?
>
>Do you understand the concept of a primary?
And winger stupidity is whose fault?
>>
>>>and Scozzafava left the race too late. On election day,
>>>Scozzafava was still on the ballot which in effect made her a spoiler.
>>>Hoffman trailed the Democrat by only a couple of percentage points. If
>>>Scozzafava wasn't in the race, Hoffman would have probably won. So it
>>>was no big defeat for the Republicans.
>>
>> CLUE: Scozzafava was the republican.
>
>Chosen by 11 Republican committee members. It good to note her
>aspirations in Republican politics is over. If she wants to be in
>politics she can run as a Dummycrat.
So the "11 Republican committee members" liked her, eh?
>>
>>>The bigger loses were in New Jersey and Virginia where the main issues
>>>were the economy and unemployment.
>-
>
>
>
>"Communism only works in Heaven, where they don't need it,
>it and in Hell, where they already have it"
>
>-President Ronald Reagan
He probably stole it.
--
Cliff
Cliff
They seem bound & determined to keep trashing it.
Nothing would be better than 90% unemployment & all
the banks failed & out of business, right?
>and you get
>offended. I'm sorry that you care nothing for the economy in your
>overzealous need to legislate your particular morality.
>
>Why don't you go form your own party rather than hijack the GOP, which
>was originally a party for Fiscal Conservatives who desired LESS
>government intervention in their lives?
They say one thing but aways do the other.
--
Cliff