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billy bosco
May 18, 2013, 7:56:31 AM5/18/13
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On May 17, 7:32 pm, Alex W <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:43:00 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> > On 5/17/2013 12:23 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> >> Alex W wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 03:57:20 -0800, linuxgal wrote:
>
> >>>> >Jason wrote:
> >>>>> >>I believe slavery is wrong. I meant that if I lived at that time
> >>>>> and my
> >>>>> >>parents died and left me in charge of the plantation and hundreds of
> >>>>> >>slaves that I would sell the slaves to the federal government and
> >>>>> sell the
> >>>>> >>plantation ASAP.
>
> >>>> >Except that the Federal Government would never consent to purchase men
> >>>> >as though they were mules.
> >>> As a mechanism for ending slavery it would probably have
> >>> been unavoidable.
>
> >> I prefer the mechanism they still remember as the Sherman Bulldozer,
> >> sixty miles wide.
>
> > The philosophy then was better. Make war so horrible and so punishing
> > that no one would want to enter into a war with the US ever again.
>
> Hasn't worked.
Unfortunately for most Americans, you are nearly 100% correct. The
North won the war for the simple reason that they used taxes to fund
their war machine, to the detriment of much of the northern (and
southern) traders and small business owners at the time.
Slavery had little or nothing to do with the civil war, because it was
the bankers who were controlling the way that purse strings would
become aligned in their favor. Even Lincoln warned of the end of the
republic:
“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations
have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will
follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all
wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”
— Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
The tax hasn't left us, and neither has the war machine. IMO the only
war that ever mattered was the revolutionary one. Now its time to
either remake the country from within, or find a new one to do
business with.
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:43:00 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> > On 5/17/2013 12:23 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> >> Alex W wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 03:57:20 -0800, linuxgal wrote:
>
> >>>> >Jason wrote:
> >>>>> >>I believe slavery is wrong. I meant that if I lived at that time
> >>>>> and my
> >>>>> >>parents died and left me in charge of the plantation and hundreds of
> >>>>> >>slaves that I would sell the slaves to the federal government and
> >>>>> sell the
> >>>>> >>plantation ASAP.
>
> >>>> >Except that the Federal Government would never consent to purchase men
> >>>> >as though they were mules.
> >>> As a mechanism for ending slavery it would probably have
> >>> been unavoidable.
>
> >> I prefer the mechanism they still remember as the Sherman Bulldozer,
> >> sixty miles wide.
>
> > The philosophy then was better. Make war so horrible and so punishing
> > that no one would want to enter into a war with the US ever again.
>
> Hasn't worked.
Unfortunately for most Americans, you are nearly 100% correct. The
North won the war for the simple reason that they used taxes to fund
their war machine, to the detriment of much of the northern (and
southern) traders and small business owners at the time.
Slavery had little or nothing to do with the civil war, because it was
the bankers who were controlling the way that purse strings would
become aligned in their favor. Even Lincoln warned of the end of the
republic:
“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations
have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will
follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all
wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”
— Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
The tax hasn't left us, and neither has the war machine. IMO the only
war that ever mattered was the revolutionary one. Now its time to
either remake the country from within, or find a new one to do
business with.
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