Parliamentary move “disingenuous
Dionysus
HEAD: Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’
SUB-HEAD: Says procedural move would hurt Congress
By Jay Fitzgerald
PULL QUOTE: “It would really call into question the credibility of the
House.”
Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen
Lynch, says a proposed parliamentary move to pass health-care reform would
be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility of Congress.
In a sign of how tough it’s been for Pelosi to round up votes for the
massive bill, Lynch - a South Boston Democrat who supported a House reform
package last year - said he’ll probably vote against a key Senate version of
the legislation, unless unexpected major changes are made soon.
Lynch, who serves as one of Pelosi’s key vote counters, said he also can’t
support a proposed “deem and pass” procedure that would allow Democrats to
vote to strip out controversial portions of the Senate bill and then “deem”
that the entire package has passed without a second, direct vote.
“It’s disingenuous,” said Lynch, who considers unfair a Senate provision to
tack a surcharge on higher-end health plans. “It would really call into
question the credibility of the House.”
Other Democrats have countered that the “deem and pass” tactic has been
employed before, including when Republicans were in the majority in
Congress.
But Republicans yesterday were ripping into the plan.
“It is absolutely astonishing that Speaker Pelosi would consider advancing a
multitrillion-dollar piece of legislation that would completely overhaul
one-sixth of our nation’s economy without even holding a vote in the House
of Representatives,” said U.S. Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.), who vowed during
his campaign in January to be the “41st vote” against President Obama’s push
for health reform.
Other members of Massachusetts’ congressional delegation were grappling with
the pending House vote to effectively concur with a Senate version.
In an e-mail alert to constituents Tuesday night, Rep. Michael Capuano
(D-Somerville) said he’s still undecided on the legislation. Like Lynch, he
expressed concerns that the bill could hurt Massachusetts’ new universal
health-care program. Rep. John Tierney (D-Salem) was also on the fence.
Rep. Edward Markey (D-Malden) said yesterday he’s leaning toward supporting
the bill, but won’t officially make up his mind until he sees final language
of the bill and how it will be voted upon.
He said there’s been “no final decision” yet by House leaders on whether to
use the “deem and pass” procedure.
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Ya makes ya wanna bathe, doesn't it!
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COMMENTS FROM THE SITE
The politicians determined to pass that awful health sham monstrosity at any
cost, which includes Obama, have already destroyed the credibility of
Congress. It's criminal what they are doing.
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Someone needs to call casino security. They have experience dealing with
people like Barack: People who have bet more than they a willing to lose.
People who think the next hand will make it all right. People who ask for
one more advance. People who can't except taking the loss and moving on.
People who blame Vegas for all their problems.
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I thought this was,according to Ms Pelosi, going to be the most honest,
open, and ethical Congress in history. I guess that would depend on what
your definition of honest, open, and ethical was. Every day brings us that
much closer to November 2nd.
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No surrender!
Dionysus
Michael Coburn
> FROM BOSTON HERALD
>
> HEAD: Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’
REAL HEAD: ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RUNS HIS MOUTH
> SUB-HEAD: Says procedural move would hurt Congress By Jay Fitzgerald
SUB-HEAD: Jay Fitzgerald's turn to run the BOOGERMAN machine.
> PULL QUOTE: “It would really call into question the credibility of the
> House.”
While the House lacks credibility due to the large size of electoral
districts and the gerrymandering, the use of procedural rules to
facilitate the good of the common people is a negative.
> Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen
> Lynch, says a proposed parliamentary move to pass health-care reform
> would be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility of Congress.
HORSESHIT.
> In a sign of how tough it’s been for Pelosi to round up votes for the
> massive bill, Lynch - a South Boston Democrat who supported a House
> reform package last year - said he’ll probably vote against a key Senate
> version of the legislation, unless unexpected major changes are made
> soon.
WELL... He is being misquoted or he is an imbecile. The changes cannot
be made unless there is a reconciliation and the reconciliation must
"change current law".
> Lynch, who serves as one of Pelosi’s key vote counters, said he also
> can’t support a proposed “deem and pass” procedure that would allow
> Democrats to vote to strip out controversial portions of the Senate bill
> and then “deem” that the entire package has passed without a second,
> direct vote.
Let's see now... He can't support the Senate bill until it is changed
and he can't support changes to the Senate bill. If that makes sense to
you, then he is and you are a Republican.
> “It’s disingenuous,” said Lynch, who considers unfair a Senate provision
> to tack a surcharge on higher-end health plans. “It would really call
> into question the credibility of the House.”
Looks like some heavy context editing to me. But this particular
Democrats could be utterly stupid.
> Other Democrats have countered that the “deem and pass” tactic has been
> employed before, including when Republicans were in the majority in
> Congress.
>
> But Republicans yesterday were ripping into the plan.
And we would expect nothing other than that from the screech monkeys.
> “It is absolutely astonishing that Speaker Pelosi would consider
> advancing a multitrillion-dollar piece of legislation that would
> completely overhaul one-sixth of our nation’s economy without even
> holding a vote in the House of Representatives,” said U.S. Sen. Scott
> Brown (R-Mass.), who vowed during his campaign in January to be the
> “41st vote” against President Obama’s push for health reform.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scott brown will be made irrelevant by reconciliation. He is now whining
in the Republicans chorus.
> Other members of Massachusetts’ congressional delegation were grappling
> with the pending House vote to effectively concur with a Senate version.
>
> In an e-mail alert to constituents Tuesday night, Rep. Michael Capuano
> (D-Somerville) said he’s still undecided on the legislation. Like Lynch,
> he expressed concerns that the bill could hurt Massachusetts’ new
> universal health-care program. Rep. John Tierney (D-Salem) was also on
> the fence.
It is difficult to imagine how state based exchanges and minimum
insurance requirements that are LESS than the current Massachusetts
requirements can hurt the people of Massachusetts. But there may be
something to this.... It is the sort of concern that a representative
should worry about.
> Rep. Edward Markey (D-Malden) said yesterday he’s leaning toward
> supporting the bill, but won’t officially make up his mind until he sees
> final language of the bill and how it will be voted upon.
>
> He said there’s been “no final decision” yet by House leaders on whether
> to use the “deem and pass” procedure. *******************
The Democrats will do what is necessary to get a good bill for the middle
class. "We the people" have the Democrats right were we want em.
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"Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
Dionysus
"Michael Coburn" <mik...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hnts0...@news3.newsguy.com...
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:19:09 -0400, Dionysus wrote:
>
>> FROM BOSTON HERALD
>>
>> HEAD: Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’
>
> REAL HEAD: ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RUNS HIS MOUTH
You flaming asshole, it's one of Skeletor Pig-losi's own storm troopers
saying it. You, Smelly Curmudgeon, are the very embodiment of
cranial/analism with fecal/cerebrum syndrome.
Dionysus
John Galt
>
> "Michael Coburn" <mik...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hnts0...@news3.newsguy.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:19:09 -0400, Dionysus wrote:
>>
>>> FROM BOSTON HERALD
>>>
>>> HEAD: Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’
>>
>> REAL HEAD: ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RUNS HIS MOUTH
> ************
> You flaming asshole, it's one of Skeletor Pig-losi's own storm troopers
> saying it. You, Smelly Curmudgeon, are the very embodiment of
> cranial/analism with fecal/cerebrum syndrome.
>
> Dionysus
Geez. Lynch is a Dem deputy whip.
I seriously don't know why you bother. The guy doesn't even read the
articles he criticizes.
JG
Michael Coburn
> "Michael Coburn" <mik...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hnts0...@news3.newsguy.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:19:09 -0400, Dionysus wrote:
>>
>>> FROM BOSTON HERALD
>>>
>>> HEAD: Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’
>>
>> REAL HEAD: ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RUNS HIS MOUTH
> ************
> You flaming asshole, it's one of Skeletor Pig-losi's own storm troopers
> saying it. You, Smelly Curmudgeon, are the very embodiment of
> cranial/analism with fecal/cerebrum syndrome.
Jay Fitzgerald of the Boston Globe is not a Pelosi "storm trooper", moron.
Buy I see I did make a typo below and I will fix it:
> Dionysus
>
>
>
>>> SUB-HEAD: Says procedural move would hurt Congress By Jay Fitzgerald
>>
>> SUB-HEAD: Jay Fitzgerald's turn to run the BOOGERMAN machine.
>>
>>> PULL QUOTE: “It would really call into question the credibility of the
>>> House.”
>>
>> While the House lacks credibility due to the large size of electoral
>> districts and the gerrymandering, the use of procedural rules to
>> facilitate the good of the common people is a negative.
Should have read "_NOT_ a negative".
Dionysus
"John Galt" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:_6von.122800$Vq1....@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
> Dionysus wrote:
>>
>> "Michael Coburn" <mik...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hnts0...@news3.newsguy.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:19:09 -0400, Dionysus wrote:
>>>
>>>> FROM BOSTON HERALD
>>>>
>>>> HEAD: Stephen Lynch calls health care vote plan ‘disingenuous’
>>>
>>> REAL HEAD: ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RUNS HIS MOUTH
>> ************
>> You flaming asshole, it's one of Skeletor Pig-losi's own storm troopers
>> saying it. You, Smelly Curmudgeon, are the very embodiment of
>> cranial/analism with fecal/cerebrum syndrome.
>>
>> Dionysus
>
> Geez. Lynch is a Dem deputy whip.
>
> I seriously don't know why you bother. The guy doesn't even read the
> articles he criticizes.
>
> JG
Just a perverse joy at poking a stick in his cage and rattling him.
D.