Fox News Gives Very Derogatory And Frightening Report On Canada's Medicare System
Crap Detector
newscasts. It focused on Kanata a suburb of the nation's capital, Ottawa.
Waiting, waiting
and more waiting is what happens when you need medical attention in Canada.
The progam showed crowded waiting rooms of a medical center and hospital
with
scores of people waiting to see a physician. Once a patient is diagnosed and
referred to a specialist, it might be days, weeks or even months before
he/she can see
that specialist. If the specialist recommends an MRI that usually means more
weeks of waiting. After that, if an operation is needed the wait for it
could be months away.
A female doctor was interviewed who complained about being totally stressed
out. She said that in the future she would be reducing her schedule by half
as
she has children of her own. Canada is currently short 26,000 doctors Fox
stated. And the medical equipment is not of the latest technology in almost
all medical
centers and hospitals. Right now Canadian governments spend more tax dollars
on their medicare system than anything else. The system of socialized
medicine in
Canada is just not working. So Americans should beware of false Democrat
promises like Obama's to enroll all Amicans, even illegal immigrants, in a
government program.
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The extreme left, of course, incorporated
the irrational element of Nazism. It was
the Red Brigade's Ulrike Meinhof who
said at her 1970s trial, "Auschwitz meant
that six million Jews were killed and thrownn the waste-heap of Europe for
what
they were: money Jews.--"Reflections on Ravaged Century" by Robert
Conquest.
George Atherley
Canadian Right Wing Socialist Crackpot ROSS JOHN LAMBOURN (AKA Sebastian
Rector / Proteus / Crap Detector) wrote:
> (nothing of consequence)
As if anyone cares what a discredited, partisan and agenda driven American
right wing propaganda network preaching the usual one-sided half truths and
distortions to ignorant, ass picking red necks has to say.
Fox's lifeblood is fear mongering to stooges so they can achieve their
obvious agendas.
Besides, ROSS JOHN LAMBOURN (AKA Sebastian Rector / Proteus / Crap Detector)
lives in Canada and can't afford US health insurance premiums, so he remains
in Canada, an elderly senile alcoholic, sucking Canada's medicare and pension
systems dry. What a pathetic old fool.
Kommienezuspadt
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Odd - I have a friend that lives in Ontario --- he says healthcare is a
breeze there & he thinks the US is crazy to have the system we have -- now
just who should I believe -- a lifelong resident or Faux News?
SgtMinor
Gallup Poll (2003): "It is a testament to national health systems that
people in Canada and Great Britain are significantly more satisfied with
availability of affordable healthcare than their American counterparts are."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/Healthcare-System-Ratings-US-Great-Britain-Canada.aspx
"Studies show that on average, Canadians are more likely to receive
needed care quickly than Americans. Canadians get more physicians visits
per capita than Americans, more immunizations, more hospital admissions,
and more surgical procedures. A survey of 10 OECD countries showed that
Canadians were the most satisfied with the care they received, while
Americans were the least satisfied. In fact, Canadians are more than
five times as likely to be satisfied with the health care they receive
than Americans."
http://www.diemer.ca/Docs/Diemer-TenHealthCareMyths.htm
Can you imagine how pissed off Fox - with their high standards - must be
with American health care?
Roy Orbison
lives and who dies. If the poor can't afford insurance, there are other
popular options.
August 16, 2007
Police: Man Threw Ill Wife From Balcony
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 1:46 a.m. ET
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- A man threw his seriously ill wife four
stories to
her death because he could no longer afford to pay for her medical
care,
prosecutors said in charging him with second-degree murder.
According to court documents filed Wednesday in Jackson County
Circuit
Court, Stanley Reimer walked his wife to the balcony of their
apartment and
kissed her before throwing her over.
The body of Criste Reimer, 47, was found Tuesday night outside the
apartment
building, near the upscale Country Club Plaza shopping district.
Stanley Reimer, 51, was charged Wednesday. He remained jailed on
$250,000
bond and was scheduled to be arraigned Thursday.
In the probable cause statement filed with the charges, police said
Reimer
was desperate because he could not pay the bills for his wife's
treatment
for neurological problems and uterine cancer.
Investigators said that Reimer was in the apartment when they
arrived.
He
told them, ''She didn't jump,'' but did not elaborate, they said.
Criste Reimer's caregiver told police she could barely walk and would
not
have been able to climb over the railing of the balcony, according to
the
probable cause statement.
Reimer's alleged motive emerged after several more hours of
questioning,
police said.
According to Jackson County Probate Court records, Criste Reimer had
been in
ill health for several years. Her weight had fallen to 75 pounds and
she was
partly blind.
According to the court records, she had no health insurance to pay
for
medical bills that ranged from $700 to $800 per week.
The Probate Court documents were filed in April, when Stanley Reimer
petitioned to be allowed to sell personal property his wife owned in
Wheeler
County, Texas, for $20,000.
The documents listed her assets at approximately $6,700, with monthly
income
of $725 from oil royalties and Supplemental Security Income.
It was not immediately known if Stanley Reimer had an attorney.
George Arthurs
> Odd - I have a friend that lives in Ontario --- he says healthcare is a
> breeze there & he thinks the US is crazy to have the system we have -- now
> just who should I believe -- a lifelong resident or Faux News?
>
The cost per patient in the Canadian system is far
less than in the US system and everyone receives coverage without some clerk
in an insurance company deciding their fate. All Fox News' propaganda
machine can come up with are isolated anecdotes which they try to
misrepresent as the full situation in Canada. That's why Fox viewers are the
poorest informed and mostly gullible right wing red necks and stooges.
US:
Per capita total expenditure on health at average exchange rate (US$)
6096.2 (2004)
Per capita total expenditure on health at international dollar rate
6096.2 (2004)
Canada:
Per capita total expenditure on health at average exchange rate (US$)
3037.6 (2004)
Per capita total expenditure on health at international dollar rate
3173.0 (2004)
Canadians pay 9% of GDP to insure 100% of citizens, compared with 14% of
GDP to insure 85% of Americans. The Kaiser Family Foundation found that 63%
of Americans were worried about not being able to afford health-care
services.
The U.S. government spends more per capita on health care than the
government does in Canada. In 2004, the government of Canada spent $2,120
(in US dollars) per person on health care, while the United States
government spent $2,724
In 2004, health care consumed 15.4% of U.S. annual GDP. In Canada, only
9.8% of GDP was spent on health care.
Source: World Health Organization: Core Health Indicators.
http://www.who.int/whosis/database/core/core_select_process.cfm?
countries=all&indicators=nha
free....@gmail.com
Yeah But........we are wiser ,we spend all our money....trillions
KILLING PEOPLE, because that's what we do best.
AHSONUMBA1
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Then move to Canada .
Mr. Smartypants
Keep poisoning yourselves with CRAP erzatz "food", dairy products, and
chemical preservatives and there is no number of doctors will be able
to keep up. Besides no doctor can cure the ills caused by that. They
can only mask the symptoms with drugs.
klunk
http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/31327/1/Hardball-McClellan-FOXTP.wmv
Matthews: "Did you see FOX television as a tool when you were in the White
House? As a useful avenue to get your message out?"
McClellan: "I make a distinction between the journalists and the
commentators. Certainly there were commentators and other, pundits at FOX
News, that were useful to the White House." [.] That was something we at the
White House, yes, were doing, getting them talkng points and making sure
they knew where we were coming from.
Matthews: "So you were using these commentators as your spokespeople."
McClellan: "Well, certainly."
zzpat
> It was not a thorough separate program but mentioned in one of Fox's
> newscasts. It focused on Kanata a suburb of the nation's capital, Ottawa.
> Waiting, waiting
> and more waiting is what happens when you need medical attention in Canada.
> The progam showed crowded waiting rooms of a medical center and hospital
> with
> scores of people waiting to see a physician. Once a patient is diagnosed and
> referred to a specialist, it might be days, weeks or even months before
> he/she can see
> that specialist. If the specialist recommends an MRI that usually means more
> weeks of waiting. After that, if an operation is needed the wait for it
> could be months away.
Now this is odd. I just had my yearly physical and the doctors office
was empty (in the US). It seems the cost of medical care is keeping
people from seeing their doctors.
I found this so odd I checked other floors and other offices to see if
it was a fluke...it wasn't.
If I had to choose which is better...a nation with people seeing their
doctors (and waiting), or a nation that can't afford to see their
doctors, I'd choose the former.
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Oswald
> Crap Detector wrote:
> > It was not a thorough separate program but mentioned in one of Fox's
> > newscasts. It focused on Kanata a suburb of the nation's capital, Ottawa.
> > Waiting, waiting
> > and more waiting is what happens when you need medical attention in Canada.
> > The progam showed crowded waiting rooms of a medical center and hospital
> > with
> > scores of people waiting to see a physician. Once a patient is diagnosed and
> > referred to a specialist, it might be days, weeks or even months before
> > he/she can see
> > that specialist. If the specialist recommends an MRI that usually means more
> > weeks of waiting. After that, if an operation is needed the wait for it
> > could be months away.
>
>
>
> Now this is odd. I just had my yearly physical and the doctors office
> was empty (in the US). It seems the cost of medical care is keeping
> people from seeing their doctors.
>
> I found this so odd I checked other floors and other offices to see if
> it was a fluke...it wasn't.
>
> If I had to choose which is better...a nation with people seeing their
> doctors (and waiting), or a nation that can't afford to see their
> doctors, I'd choose the former.
>
ward care are all that a health care system involves, failing to see that
preventative and preemptive health care are just as or even more important
for over all health and longevity. That's why Canadians live an average of 2
years more than Americans, have lower birth morbidity rates, cover everyone
and still do it at a cost that is lower than in the USA. Per capita, the US
government still pays more per patient than Canada, and the US has private
care to supplement it!
Completely blowing to Hell the notion that private health care can be
provided at lower cost.
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head
> less than in the US system
doctors, specialist, etc, has a way of doing that.
>
> The U.S. government spends more per capita on health care
Paul Robertson
wrote:
> > less than in the US system
> Rationed care, with it's glorious long lines and growing deficit of
> doctors, specialist, etc, has a way of doing that.
> >
There is no such thing as rationed health care in Canada, but if you're
referring to how the private insurers in the USA can decide whether or not
you are eligible to receive treatment, you're spot on.
You are simply proving that the American right's knowledge of Canadian single
payer health care is limited to parroting propaganda, exaggeration,
distortions and fear mongering; along with avoiding your own problem by
finger pointing.
With such limited knowledge, you look like a fool. Like some Communist
inside the old Soviet pontificating about how the Soviet's invented
everything. Ignorance is all you seem to have along with the usual
fallacious talking points like "rationed health care".
Empty brains like you shouldn't embarrass themselves by commenting on
subjects you know nothing about.
> > The U.S. government spends more per capita on health care
> Because Americans use it more and get more out of it.
>
>
Yeah, right. Now you're not even making any sense.
darkst...@gmail.com
infirm as drains on society.
I wish you Rethuglican fucks would just admit that's what you want --
hyperinflation as population control.
Mike
darkst...@gmail.com
> Odd - I have a friend that lives in Ontario --- he says healthcare is a
> breeze there & he thinks the US is crazy to have the system we have -- now
> just who should I believe -- a lifelong resident or Faux News?
Everything you hear in the US MSM is either an agenda or an outright
lie.
Remember, one of the proposed objectives of the bankrupting of the USA
is to take over Canada and Mexico and drive the middle-class into
Third-World slavery.
Mike
Viejo Vizcacha
We do not need more USAmericans coming to Canada with fake
documentation in hopes of receiving the health care that it is denied
to them in the USA. We do not need more USAmericans abusing Canadian
health care system.
V.V.
leona...@primus.ca
> It was not a thorough separate program but mentioned in one of Fox's
> newscasts. It focused on Kanata a suburb of the nation's capital, Ottawa.
€€ Kanata, a bedroom suburb that did not exist 30
years ago when OHIP was formed.
> Waiting, waiting
> and more waiting is what happens when you need medical attention in Canada.
> The program showed crowded waiting rooms of a medical centre and hospital
> with
> scores of people waiting to see a physician. Once a patient is diagnosed and
> referred to a specialist, it might be days, weeks or even months before
> he/she can see
> that specialist. If the specialist recommends an MRI that usually means more
> weeks of waiting. After that, if an operation is needed the wait for it
> could be months away.
€€ ROFLMAO
You can rig the picture any way you want it, even
without Photoshop. But you, sir crap, know
nothing about the situation.
€ When I came up here, I got a physician in my
neighbourhood immediately. NO COST.
€ I needed therapy on one leg, the doctor sent
me to a therapist, problem solved. NO COST
€ I went to optometrist for an eye exam.
NO COST
He said you need cataracts removed from both
eyes. See Dr ---- next Wednesday at 10 am.
The surgeon scheduled me for one eye 3 weeks
ahead during which pre-op procedures would
be done - NO COST Medications NO COST.
Procedures repeated 6 weeks later NO COST
€ Needed knee repairs. Called top knee surgeon
Exam in 7 days (faster than NY Hospital for
Special Surgery). Surgery in ten days with the
usual pre-op junk in between. NO COST.
€ Hernia- Prelim exam in 3 days, Procedure in
world famous private hospital, 5 days later.
NO COST
Found out my X had flown in from Long
Island for surgery in the same hospital.
> A female doctor was interviewed who complained about being totally stressed
> out. She said that in the future she would be reducing her schedule by half
> as
> she has children of her own. Canada is currently short 26,000 doctors Fox
> stated. And the medical equipment is not of the latest technology in almost
> all medical
> centres and hospitals.
€€ First of all, a flood of immigrants, some legal
and some not, swamped all aspects of
healthcare. It takes time to train healthcare
personnel and the medical schools had to
expand rapidly. and in the past few years all
have been catching up.
> Right now Canadian governments spend more tax dollars
> on their medicare system than anything else.
€€ Those "tax" dollars are one third health
insurance premiums just like SSI
> The system of socialized
> medicine in
> Canada is just not working.
€€ First of all, Sir Idiot Crapper, it is not
"socialized medicine". It is 11 Health
insurance plans. If you want socialized
medicine go to UK or Sweden
€€ Secondly, each provincial or territorial plan
is tailored to its local needs so there is no
uniformity.
€€ Try posting something about which you might
have some real knowledge if you can find one.
e1313
Nothing wrong with either of those. They won't bankrupt you, steal your
house or pension plan and you're covered from birth to death whether you
are employed or not.
--
EMAC
Paul Teller
> Nothing wrong with either of those. They won't bankrupt you, steal your
> house or pension plan and you're covered from birth to death whether you
> are employed or not.
>
>
an apartment building when the hospital bills get too big and insurance isn't
there to back stop them!
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head
> > > less than in the US system
> > Rationed care, with it's glorious long lines and growing deficit of
> > doctors, specialist, etc, has a way of doing that.
>
> There is no such thing as rationed health care in Canada,
equipment, and the fact that Canada's rationed system is driving away
doctors, specialist, etc.
>
> but if you're
> referring to how the private insurers in the USA can decide whether or not
> you are eligible to receive treatment, you're spot on.
what this discussion is about]
Note: Hospitals in both countries cannot turn away sick people. By law
they have to help them. [And if I was poor and had to choose, I would
go American]
>
> You are simply proving that the American right's knowledge of Canadian single
> payer health care is limited to parroting propaganda, exaggeration,
> distortions and fear mongering; along with avoiding your own problem by
> finger pointing.
>
> With such limited knowledge, you look like a fool.
If that was true then you would have proven it.
I must say that it's a sad day when people like you are so invested in
a belief that any discussion of it sends you into a rage and you treat
it as if it's an attack on your person.
>
> > The U.S. government spends more per capita on health care
> Because Americans use it more and get more out of it.
> Yeah, right. Now you're not even making any sense.
Clearly if you compare services you will see Americans get more.
[Americans see more specialist, get more test, get better equipment
used on them...Basically they get better all around service]
e1313
--
EMAC
Brian Summers
I guess that those poor suckers don't get "the golden parachutes" that the
CEO's get, otherwise they wouldn't be worried about a 50 foot drop!
:)
Sunny Beasty
Actually the Repugnican fucks are greatly confused. On the one hand
they oppose abortion, sex education and argue that womens' role is
primarily that of mothers and caregivers. OTOH, one the babies are
actually popped out by poor mothers, they don't want to spend a cent:
no "socialist" universal healthcare, no "socialist" universal daycare.
As I said quite confused.
klunk
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---
no doubt... it amazes me the extent to which they hide from this
particularly glaring bit of obvious hypocrisy...
klunk
"Force Majeure" <ForceM...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> klunk <kl...@theothershoo.org> wrote:
>> Actually the Repugnican fucks are greatly confused. On the one hand
>> they oppose abortion, sex education and argue that womens' role is
>> primarily that of mothers and caregivers. OTOH, one the babies are
>> actually popped out by poor mothers, they don't want to spend a cent:
>> no "socialist" universal healthcare, no "socialist" universal daycare.
>> As I said quite confused.
>>
> doctors in Canada, he's a private businessman who is not employed by the
> government. I live in Toronto, where every single one of the massive
> number
> of well known and credible hospitals are all privately owned!
>
> What socialism?
exactly... nothing more than a boogeyman to frighten children with...
Apo...@home.com
<ForceM...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>klunk <kl...@theothershoo.org> wrote:
>> Actually the Repugnican fucks are greatly confused. On the one hand
>> they oppose abortion, sex education and argue that womens' role is
>> primarily that of mothers and caregivers. OTOH, one the babies are
>> actually popped out by poor mothers, they don't want to spend a cent:
>> no "socialist" universal healthcare, no "socialist" universal daycare.
>> As I said quite confused.
>>
>I don't get that "socialist health care" stuff. My doctor is like all
>doctors in Canada, he's a private businessman who is not employed by the
>government. I live in Toronto, where every single one of the massive number
>of well known and credible hospitals are all privately owned!
>
>What socialism?
You live in Canada and don't know we have a publically funded
healthcare system?
If that is true then it would seem that our socialized education
system is much worse off than our socialized healthcare system.
Apo...@home.com
It's because Canadians don't pay out of their pockets that they're
incapable of comprehending the costs associated with the effects of
their lifestyle on their long term health. In spite of the educational
programs that have been around for, at least, the last thirty years.
I don't have a problem with doctors who refuse to treat those who are
deliberately killing themselves. In a country where a person can be
whatever they want to be, we should respect their right to be dead.
The more of them that are allowed to finish the process they started
the better off the future will be for the ones who are smart enough to
be in it. The more of them we insist on saving from themselves the
sooner the public healthcare system will collapse from costs.
klunk
<Apo...@home.com> wrote in message
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well... that's just backwards reasoning which completely ignores reality...
people who "are deliberately killing themselves" (which is an asinine
assessment on its own) actually cost the system more when they don't receive
the treatment they need before it becomes an expensive emergency...
e1313
Not really. Their model requires an ignorant peasantry for them to rule.
--
EMAC
e1313
Well it hasn't collapsed yet and won't either.
--
EMAC
leona...@primus.ca
АА It would seem that you need help from your
government subsidized mental health provider
Bush is Diabolical Terrorist Numero Uno
wrote:
>
><free....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jul 25, 4:07 pm, George Arthurs <george.arth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kommienezuspadt <NoS...@NoWay.com> wrote:
>>> > Odd - I have a friend that lives in Ontario --- he says healthcare is
>>> > a
>>> > breeze there & he thinks the US is crazy to have the system we have --
>>> > now
>>> > just who should I believe -- a lifelong resident or Faux News?
>>>
>>> The cost per patient in the Canadian system is far
>>> less than in the US system and everyone receives coverage without some
>>> clerk
>>> in an insurance company deciding their fate. All Fox News' propaganda
>>> machine can come up with are isolated anecdotes which they try to
>>> misrepresent as the full situation in Canada. That's why Fox viewers are
>>> the
>>> poorest informed and mostly gullible right wing red necks and stooges.
>>>
>>> US:
>>> Per capita total expenditure on health at average exchange rate (US$)
>>> 6096.2 (2004)
>>> Per capita total expenditure on health at international dollar rate
>>> 6096.2 (2004)
>>>
>>> Canada:
>>>
>>> Per capita total expenditure on health at average exchange rate (US$)
>>> 3037.6 (2004)
>>> Per capita total expenditure on health at international dollar rate
>>> 3173.0 (2004)
>>>
>>> Canadians pay 9% of GDP to insure 100% of citizens, compared with 14% of
>>> GDP to insure 85% of Americans. The Kaiser Family Foundation found that
>>> 63%
>>> of Americans were worried about not being able to afford health-care
>>> services.
>>>
>>> The U.S. government spends more per capita on health care than the
>>> government does in Canada. In 2004, the government of Canada spent $2,120
>>> (in US dollars) per person on health care, while the United States
>>> government spent $2,724
>>>
>>> In 2004, health care consumed 15.4% of U.S. annual GDP. In Canada, only
>>> 9.8% of GDP was spent on health care.
>>>
>>> Source: World Health Organization: Core Health
>>> Indicators.http://www.who.int/whosis/database/core/core_select_process.cfm?
>>> countries=all&indicators=nha
>>
>> Yeah But........we are wiser ,we spend all our money....trillions
>> KILLING PEOPLE, because that's what we do best.
>
>Then move to Canada .
the best time to move to Canada was during the vietnam war when then
Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau allowed U.S. citizens who were forced to
join that war to escape it.
>
Apo...@home.com
wrote:
The 'reality' is that it's all about 'deliberate choices'. Reason
dictates 'that if you 'choose' to do something that will cause you a
short life filled with grief then you must obviously expect and want
what you're going to get'. Unless you still think like a child and
are convinced that you're going to live happily forever. Or a punk
that still believes he's invincible.
You're (nothing personal) not worth the effort and cost to preserve
you just so you can get back to your process of killing yourself as
too many still do even after they've been warned by their bodies and
their doctors that they're on the wrong path.
Education should be the treatment given to those who are suffering
circumstances brought on by an unhealthy lifestyle. If they're capable
of learning then there won't be any expensive emergencies. If they're
not, then what's the point of preserving them to suffer more and
longer?
Keep in mind that we're talking about diseases and such that are a
result of lifestyle choices. Mostly, preventable stuff.
Do you subscribe to the idea of personal responsibility? Or do you
believe we should never have to grow up?
>
>
Apo...@home.com
wrote:
Boy, you should keep up with current events.
Apo...@home.com
>€€ It would seem that you need help from your
> government subsidized mental health provider
From a childish or an uneducated point of view. Maybe.
klunk
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the "reality" is that if you had the slightest idea what you were talking
about, you'd be well aware of the dramatic paradigm shift that's been
happening over the last 2 decades in medical science from treatment to
prevention.... do look up the wellness movement to gain even some small
semblance of an education on this issue before proving your ideas spring
from nothing less than a self-destructive sociopathy....
keep in mind that practically every disease can be attributed toward a
lifestyle choice... regardless of how you define "preventable"...
oh... and if you subscribed to the idea of personal responsibility yourself,
you'd actually do some research which would lead you to understanding just
how irresponsible your views are in this matter... or do you believe you
should not to research your facts in order to demonstrate you've nothing to
offer on this topic aside from a sociopathic bias?
Apo...@home.com
wrote:
You're ability to reason is obviously blinded by you're rage at my
considered opinion on the matter. I'll assume you or someone you care
for is being treated or already dead as a result of a lifestyle
malady . Alcohol, tobacco, drugs, obesity, laziness, AIDS, a
wreckless venture??? Whatever, I'm sure stupidity/ignorance/immaturity
had to be a factor.
Since you didn't answer the question I asked, I'll assume you believe
we should never have to grow up.
It's obvious that the meaningless content of your post was meant to
serve, only, as a vehicle for your pathetic ad hominem slurs. A simple
waste of bandwidth and a pathetic demonstration of your thought
processing for you. One less poster to read in the future for me.
Plonk!
klunk
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ROTFLMAO... ya... i'm just sooooo incensed by your pedestrian
consideration... btw... thanks for proving you're completely incapable of
both comprehending the implications of an issue which is clearly over your
head and that you're also to much of an idiot to actually conduct your own
research on this matter... even after it's been offered to you on a silver
platter.... how truly pathetic...
> I'll assume you or someone you care
> for is being treated or already dead as a result of a lifestyle
> malady . Alcohol, tobacco, drugs, obesity, laziness, AIDS, a
> wreckless venture??? Whatever, I'm sure stupidity/ignorance/immaturity
> had to be a factor.
here asshole... let's try a hypothetical.... a (young) family member of
yours attends a party and succumbs to peer pressure to try smoking crack...
following that single incident, they become addicted... and as a result of a
need to feed that addiction, they start robbing your family blind...
your "solution" is to simply let them spiral downward, taking the rest of
your family with them on an emotional roller-coaster and then they wind up
dead...
first of all... do you really think non-action... which, imho constitutes
"depraved indifference", actually solves anything?... do you really think
your sociopathic attitude actually contributes anything other than to simply
push that person further into their descending spiral of self destruction...
i know it's always the sociopathic idiot that seems to blame those whom are
sincere in supporting the more vulnerable of us in society.... but, in
actual fact... it is the depraved indifference that you tout which
accomplishes that form of destruction...
furthermore.... try answering this question... and try thinking it through
before proving that you're more interested in feeding your ignorance than
you are in understanding the hopelessly myopic and destructive attitude you
hold is completely blinded to reason:
which is more expensive to society... for an individual to die of natural
causes... or for an individual to die after extra-ordinary measures have
been taken to save their life...?... oh... and try not to forget that even
if the bulk of someone's life is a descending spiral, they still have some
part of their life which actually does provide some contribution to
society...
unless of course, you believe that once one is a confirmed alcoholic, for
example, they have absolutely nothing of value to offer this world...
> Since you didn't answer the question I asked, I'll assume you believe
> we should never have to grow up.
lol... your question is a canard and i did answer it... so, no assumption is
necessary to realize that you really don't have a clue what you're talking
about... you've just chosen to spew reichtwing talking points like a good
little mindless brownshirt...
> It's obvious that the meaningless content of your post was meant to
> serve, only, as a vehicle for your pathetic ad hominem slurs. A simple
> waste of bandwidth and a pathetic demonstration of your thought
> processing for you. One less poster to read in the future for me.
>
> Plonk!
lol... of course you'd run away like a frightened child overwhelmed by your
inability to substantiate your stupidity...