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vict0r

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:27:20 PM11/23/09
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As the University of California's Board of Regents met Thursday at U.C.L.A.
and approved a plan to raise undergraduate fees - the equivalent of
tuition - 32 percent next fall, hundreds of students from campuses across
the state demonstrated outside, beating drums and chanting slogans against
the increase.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/education/20tuition.html

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I wonderif they realize how soon they'll enter the working world with
mortgage and car payments on top of the now much bigger student loans to
repay. And on top of that, they'll be forced to purchase a cadillac health
plan that's way overkill for their age.

They'll also be paying for the Obamacare federal deficits, as well as higher
state taxes resulting from Obamacare's unfunded Medicaid mandate.

Good luck with that whole prosperity thing.


Joe Steel

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:30:42 PM11/23/09
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"vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote in
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> As the University of California's Board of Regents met Thursday at
> U.C.L.A. and approved a plan to raise undergraduate fees - the
> equivalent of tuition - 32 percent next fall, hundreds of students
> from campuses across the state demonstrated outside, beating drums and
> chanting slogans against the increase.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/education/20tuition.html
>
> ---
>

> I wonder if they realize how soon they'll enter the working world with

> mortgage and car payments on top of the now much bigger student loans
> to repay. And on top of that, they'll be forced to purchase a
> cadillac health plan that's way overkill for their age.
>
> They'll also be paying for the Obamacare federal deficits, as well as
> higher state taxes resulting from Obamacare's unfunded Medicaid
> mandate.
>
> Good luck with that whole prosperity thing.
>

Taxes are the price of prosperity.

No taxes. No prosperity.


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Werner

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:29:42 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 12:30 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
> "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote innews:_BzOm.242622$BL3.2...@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com:

>
>
>
>
>
> > As the University of California's Board of Regents met Thursday at
> > U.C.L.A. and approved a plan to raise undergraduate fees - the
> > equivalent of tuition - 32 percent next fall, hundreds of students
> > from campuses across the state demonstrated outside, beating drums and
> > chanting slogans against the increase.
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/education/20tuition.html
>
> > ---
>
> > I wonder if they realize how soon they'll enter the working world with
> > mortgage and car payments on top of the now much bigger student loans
> > to repay.  And on top of that, they'll be forced to purchase a
> > cadillac health plan that's way overkill for their age.
>
> > They'll also be paying for the Obamacare federal deficits, as well as
> > higher state taxes resulting from Obamacare's unfunded Medicaid
> > mandate.
>
> > Good luck with that whole prosperity thing.
>
> Taxes are the price of prosperity.
>
>


Whose prosperity?

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:55:46 PM11/23/09
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What is the price of Failure?
Unearned prosperity?


Werner

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:59:50 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 2:55 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-


indeed

Joe Steel

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:07:17 PM11/23/09
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Werner <whet...@mac.com> wrote in
news:ada2b6eb-8047-4623...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 23, 12:30�pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Taxes are the price of prosperity.
>>
>>
>
>
> Whose prosperity?

Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
created and guaranteed by government. Without taxes, they couldn't
exist.

plainolamerican

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:16:54 PM11/23/09
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their supporters in NYC got their asses hammered by the police

http://www.wikio.com/video/2037972

fucking anarchists

Werner

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:27:52 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 3:07 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:

> Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote innews:ada2b6eb-8047-4623...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Nov 23, 12:30 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>
> >> Taxes are the price of prosperity.
>
> > Whose prosperity?
>
> Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
> created and guaranteed by government.  Without taxes, they couldn't
> exist.
>
> --


Prosperity has been slipping away. This government is bankrupt. It has
too many institutions and objects we can no longer afford.

Joe Steel

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:39:23 PM11/23/09
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Werner <whet...@mac.com> wrote in
news:47d3b619-8ce8-4eb0...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 23, 3:07�pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
>> created and guaranteed by government. �Without taxes, they couldn't
>> exist.
>>

>

> Prosperity has been slipping away. This government is bankrupt. It has
> too many institutions and objects we can no longer afford.
>

Our economic problems reflect Conservatives' attempts to destroy
government. When the effects of their treason have been repaired,
prosperity will return.

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pyjamarama

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:22:30 PM11/23/09
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Somebody else's, no doubt.

pyjamarama

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:24:32 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 12:39 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:

> Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote innews:47d3b619-8ce8-4eb0...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Nov 23, 3:07 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>
> >> Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
> >> created and guaranteed by government.  Without taxes, they couldn't
> >> exist.
>
> > Prosperity has been slipping away. This government is bankrupt. It has
> > too many institutions and objects we can no longer afford.
>
> Our economic problems reflect Conservatives' attempts to destroy
> government.  When the effects of their treason have been repaired,
> prosperity will return.

Um, California is and has been run by liberals for a very long time
now...

The only thing being destroyed is the state itself by massive
taxation.

You're not very bright, are you?

Werner

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:09:37 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 5:24 pm, pyjamarama <pyjamaram...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 12:39 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>
> > Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote innews:47d3b619-8ce8-4eb0...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > On Nov 23, 3:07 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>
> > >> Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
> > >> created and guaranteed by government.  Without taxes, they couldn't
> > >> exist.
>
> > > Prosperity has been slipping away. This government is bankrupt. It has
> > > too many institutions and objects we can no longer afford.
>
> > Our economic problems reflect Conservatives' attempts to destroy
> > government.  When the effects of their treason have been repaired,
> > prosperity will return.
>
> Um, California is and has been run by liberals for a very long time
> now...
>
> The only thing being destroyed is the state itself by massive
> taxation.
>
> You're not very bright, are you?
>
>
>


and California is not the only bankrupt blue state.

pyjamarama

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:15:01 PM11/23/09
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In fact, if you want to see rampant liberal governance writ large
simply look at Detroit, Newark, New Orleans, Philadelphia and
Washington D.C (to name but a few) -- All as blue as the day is long
and all abject failures.

And it's not a question of dollars -- all of these municipalities are
extremely expensive to live and do business in.

Kevin Cunningham

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:20:08 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 5:24 pm, pyjamarama <pyjamaram...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 12:39 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>
> > Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote innews:47d3b619-8ce8-4eb0...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > On Nov 23, 3:07 pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>
> > >> Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
> > >> created and guaranteed by government.  Without taxes, they couldn't
> > >> exist.
>
> > > Prosperity has been slipping away. This government is bankrupt. It has
> > > too many institutions and objects we can no longer afford.
>
> > Our economic problems reflect Conservatives' attempts to destroy
> > government.  When the effects of their treason have been repaired,
> > prosperity will return.
>
> Um, California is and has been run by liberals for a very long time
> now...
>
> The only thing being destroyed is the state itself by massive
> taxation.
>
> You're not very bright, are you?
>

Sorry, for a minute I thought we were discussing California, you know
the state run by a repug governor with a big bunch of repugs in the
state house and senate. So is that the California or are we talking
about another one?

You ever hear of Schwarzenegger? Movie star?

Kevin Cunningham

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:21:02 PM11/23/09
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Yeah, during the Bush years you right wingers followed in Cheney's
foot steps. You pointed out that debt didn't matter. So why does
Obama's debt matter now? Your debt, the highest in history didn't
matter. Obama's does.

You got an explanation for that?

pyjamarama

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:28:36 PM11/23/09
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"A big bunch...?"

You're not too bright, are you?

Democrats out-number Republicans in the CA congress by almost two-to-
one, skippy...

They have for some time.

As to Arnold, he's done nothing that could remotely be described as
"conservative", particularly regarding spending.

You're suggesting the state should spend even more?

Or are you saying they should cut taxes?

You also seem to be unclear on the power the state constitution grants
the governor -- it's tepid at best


>
> You ever hear of Schwarzenegger?  Movie star?

See above.

pyjamarama

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:30:38 PM11/23/09
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For starters, Obama's first-year debt is GREATER than Bush's eight-
year total.

You whined about Bush's debt, which as a % of GDP was below historical
averages and you seem not bothered the least by Obama's cap-blowing,
record-setting debt orgy.

Why is this?

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Dave Heil

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:01:50 PM11/23/09
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:

> Yeah, during the Bush years you right wingers followed in Cheney's
> foot steps.

That's what you think? Are you characters following in Biden's footsteps?

Joe Steel

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:06:01 AM11/24/09
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pyjamarama <pyjama...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> On Nov 23, 12:39�pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>> Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote

>> innews:47d3b619-8ce8-4eb0-93a4-45b8eebe4d
> d...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:


>>
>> > On Nov 23, 3:07�pm, Joe Steel <Admin1...@joesteel.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> Everyone's prosperity is dependent on the institutions and objects
>> >> created and guaranteed by government. �Without taxes, they
>> >> couldn't exist.
>>
>> > Prosperity has been slipping away. This government is bankrupt. It
>> > has too many institutions and objects we can no longer afford.
>>
>> Our economic problems reflect Conservatives' attempts to destroy
>> government. �When the effects of their treason have been repaired,
>> prosperity will return.
>
> Um, California is and has been run by liberals for a very long time
> now...
>
> The only thing being destroyed is the state itself by massive
> taxation.
>
> You're not very bright, are you?
>
>>

In fact, much brighter than you. For instance, I know US economic policy
since the Reagan nightmare has been overwheleming conservative in nature.

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