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December 24, 2009

Hordes of Angry Activists and a $27 Billion Court Case Is Making Oil
Giant Chevron Pretty Nervous

By Peter Asmus

A dozen nonprofits are going right after the company's greed, and the
outcome will likely have repercussions in the oil industry for years
to come.


The oil industry is more powerful today than at any other time in
history save the early 20th century.

Thanks to last year's record run-up in oil prices, seven of the
world's most valuable corporations are now oil companies.

Yet just one of those companies has become the focus of intense
consumer ire.

Perhaps the largest coordinated activist campaign in history is being
launched against the San Ramon-based Chevron Corporation.

Foregoing boycotts and other traditional market campaign techniques,
non-governmental organizations are creatively communicating the
business case for why Chevron should change its ways, focusing on
mobilizing company shareholders and consumers to compel the company to
come clean and pursue social and environmental leadership.

This unprecedented campaign to make Chevron the poster child of
corporate irresponsibility has already persuaded pension funds in
California, Maryland, New York, and Pennsylvania to consider selling a
total of $12 billion in Chevron shares on the grounds that the firm is
mismanaging its operations around the globe.

The prime focus of this ongoing anti-Chevron effort has been the
company's annual shareholder meetings, but protests at the Richmond
refinery and a series of movie and PR stunts have been also been
effective tactics.

The brains behind the campaign is a small firecracker of a woman,
Antonia Juhasz, director of a special new Chevron program for Global
Exchange, the San Francisco activist organization.

Author of the book entitled The Tyranny of Oil,
http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061434501/The_Tyranny_of_Oil/index.aspx
Juhasz brings to the campaign a depth of knowledge about the oil
industry and a penchant for understanding how the media works.

It was her idea, for example, to create an alternative shareholder
report � The True Cost of Chevron � released in time for Chevron's
annual shareholder meeting this past spring.

The report, to which more than a dozen activist groups contributed,
chronicles environmental and social issues confronting Chevron around
the globe. Among other things, it pokes fun at Chevron's "Human
Energy" PR campaign.

In its billboards and television ads, Chevron paints itself as part of
the solution, and implies that the ingenuity of California and its
citizens are already solving the challenges that climate change poses
to society.

One subtext of this advertising campaign is that global warming can be
solved by everyday people.

Indeed, the contented Americans depicted in the ads vow "I will use
less energy," "I will leave the car at home more," and "I will finally
get a programmable thermostat."

The True Cost of Chevron campaign mocks this notion, by depicting
put-upon villagers who stoically vow, "I will not breathe when
outside," "I will give my baby contaminated water," and "I will ignore
the toxic waste pits in my village."

"Chevron is emblematic of an industry that is out of control," Juhasz
said.

"They are not the worst oil company, but they hold themselves up to be
a model corporate citizen, and they don't deserve it."

Why then focus exclusively on Chevron?

Focusing on one company makes the story more manageable, said Juhasz,
exhibiting a clear understanding of modern campaigning techniques.

And Chevron is everywhere, she noted, which allows activists to go to
gas stations and distribute propaganda, or engage in publicity stunts
that take advantage of the company's global profile.

"Our issues of peace, democracy, and environmental sustainability
overlap with Chevron's actions around the globe," she said.

"We want to take a closer look at the local impacts Chevron has
globally in order to put pressure on them to be a better corporate
citizen here, and everywhere else they operate. Our goal is to build a
regional network not so much aimed at Chevron directly, but rather at
policymakers who can adopt better regulations governing big oil."

While each of the activist organizations involved in this campaign has
a different regional focus, they regularly hold conference calls and
coordinate strategy to maximize impact.

Their common theme is that the issues haunting Chevron in Richmond,
Ecuador, Burma, Kazakhstan, and Nigeria are all really the same, and
stem from a corporate culture that is out of sync with the values of
the Bay Area.

Chevron repeatedly declined to comment on the charges leveled against
it by activists.

This should come as no surprise since outgoing CEO David O'Reilly
suggested at the company's last shareholder meeting that the report
pulled together by Global Exchange and various other groups should be
thrown in the trash.

The company known as Chevron was once part of Standard Oil, which was
started by the infamous Rockefeller family, and broken up under the
Sherman Antitrust Act.

Successor companies of Standard Oil � which once controlled 88 percent
of US oil flows � comprised what were known as the "Seven Sisters" and
included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and Standard Oil of
California, which ultimately became Chevron.

The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest oil
company.

Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.

Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.

___________________________________________________

Go Get 'Em, Guys.

Harry

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"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> report - The True Cost of Chevron - released in time for Chevron's
> Successor companies of Standard Oil - which once controlled 88 percent
> of US oil flows - comprised what were known as the "Seven Sisters" and

> included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and Standard Oil of
> California, which ultimately became Chevron.
>
> The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
> Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest oil
> company.
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> Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.
>
> Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
> fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.
>
> ___________________________________________________
>
> Go Get 'Em, Guys.
>
> Harry

Time to go Green!

Sueki Tartridge

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> Author of the book entitled The Tyranny of Oil,http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061434501/The_Tyranny_of_Oil/i...

How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a
gallon of milk is $8 ??

Sueki Tartridge

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You go first. I'll THINK about it when Nancy Pelosi and Dr.Gore park
their private jets and take mass transit. Meanwhile you/they can kiss
my gas guzzling SUV driving ass !!

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Same old arguement. I couldn't get past the first few comments. "Freedom
R.I.P." Um, what the fuck? How the hell is this against freedom, at all?

wolfagain

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It's easy for those who have no job, no money to buy cars, no money to
buy anything but pot to go "green." The rest of us will wait a while
before EVEN thinking about joining those LOSERS!

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My electric bill says, WINNER!

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We were headed that way. Obama stopped it.

Sid9

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Notwithstanding you naysayers, America is going green:

December 24, 2009
Chilly Climate for Oil Refiners
By JAD MOUAWAD

Only a few years ago, a cry went up that the United States needed more oil
refineries. The perceived shortage was so acute that George W. Bush,
president at the time, even offered disused military bases as sites for
building them.

Not only did that never come to pass, but the reverse is now happening. The
business of oil refining is mired in a deep crisis, with five refineries
having shut down this year, including plants in Delaware, New Jersey,
California and New Mexico.

Gasoline demand, which many analysts had long expected to keep rising for
decades, is down sharply in the recession. And refiners are increasingly
convinced that even after the economy recovers, demand will not grow much in
coming years because of the rise of alternative fuel supplies and the advent
of tougher efficiency standards for automobiles.

The recent closings signal the end of a period from roughly 2004 to 2008,
when demand soared, refineries operated near capacity and profits swelled.
For drivers, that meant gasoline prices at $3 or $4 a gallon, especially
when hurricanes knocked out refining capacity on the Gulf Coast. For
refiners, this gilded period turned out to have been an anomaly.

Plagued by boom-and-bust cycles of rapid expansion followed by sharp
belt-tightening, refining companies have often struggled to operate at a
profit. That is a contrast to the production side of the oil business, long
a road to riches.

"Oil production creates wealth, but oil refining has often destroyed it,"
said Costanza Jacazio, an analyst at Barclays Capital in New York.

Even so, these are unusually harsh times for oil refiners. The recent drop
in gasoline demand could result in more refineries being closed in the
coming year.

"We have too much capacity," said Lynn D. Westfall, the chief economist at
the Tesoro Corporation, a midsize refiner, who estimated that the industry's
capacity of 18 million barrels a day must be cut 5 to 8 percent. "We need
refineries to be shut down."

Refineries, especially smaller ones, have been closing for many years. The
number of refineries in the United States fell to about 150 in recent years
from more than 300 in 1982. At the same time, the nation's refining capacity
grew by about 13 percent, as companies expanded their most efficient
refineries.

But the shutdowns are now coming so fast that the United States is losing
capacity as refiners struggle to match their output to falling demand. Some
energy experts have said that gasoline consumption most likely peaked in
2007, when it reached 9.7 million barrels a day, and will not rise to that
level again.

Even as demand has dropped, gasoline is still relatively expensive because
of high oil prices. Gasoline prices have dropped to an average of $2.58 a
gallon, according to the motorist group AAA, with many analysts predicting
further declines this winter.

Gasoline consumption fell 3.5 percent last year, the steepest decline since
1965, while diesel consumption fell 6.8 percent, the most in 28 years. Both
are set to fall again this year.

Government mandates for ethanol, meanwhile, are expected to grow through
2022. Biofuel supplies, which were negligible a few years ago, are set to
reach 15 billion gallons in 2012 and 36 billion gallons in 2022. As
production grows, ethanol and other biofuels displace gasoline and diesel;
at many gasoline pumps ethanol is now 10 percent of the blend, and the
ethanol industry is pushing to raise the percentage.

The refining industry is also faced with a new political reality. Unlike the
Bush administration, which offered support and incentives to petroleum
producers, the goal of the Obama administration is to encourage alternative
fuels and reduce the use of gasoline.

Refiners are complaining about the climate change legislation is making its
way through Congress, fearing that it will impose higher costs on the
petroleum industry and result in more gasoline imports from lower-cost
refiners overseas.

The increase in automobile fuel-efficiency standards - by 2016, the fleet
average will rise to 35.5 miles per gallon from an average of about 25 miles
per gallon for vehicles on the road today - is expected to reduce oil
consumption by a total of 1.8 billion barrels between 2012 and 2016.
Automakers from General Motors to Nissan are also betting on a new
generation of electric cars that will become available in the next few
years.

In a speech this month at the Los Angeles auto show, Robert A. Lutz, General
Motors' vice chairman for marketing, said, "The automobile industry simply
can no longer rely on oil to supply 98 percent of the world's automotive
energy requirements."

That leaves refiners with difficult choices: cut costs and hope to survive
the downturn; try to sell plants; or shut down unprofitable refineries. "The
industry is on its collective knees right now," said Charles T. Drevna,
president of the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association.

About 700,000 barrels a day of refining capacity have been idled or shut
down in North America in the last year, according Aaron Brady, an oil expert
at IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates.

The industry is expanding elsewhere around the world, especially in Asia,
where gasoline demand is expected to rise in the coming decades. Thanks to
multibillion dollar projects in China, India and Saudi Arabia, the industry
is expected to add two million barrels a day of refining capacity this year,
even as global oil demand drops by around 1.7 million barrels a day, or
about 2 percent, according to Barclays.

American refiners are bearing much of the brunt of the downturn. Last year,
the American industry operated at 85.3 percent of capacity, the lowest level
since 1988, according to the Energy Department. The utilization level is on
track to sink to 75 percent this year, compared with highs above 90 percent
just five years ago.

The Valero Energy Corporation, the nation's largest refiner, announced this
month that it had shut down its refinery in Delaware City, Del., which could
process 210,000 barrels of oil a day. Once the industry's highflier, Valero,
based in San Antonio, has seen its stock price plummet as a result of the
economic downturn. The stock is down 22 percent this year, after a 69
percent drop in 2008.

"The golden age of refining - if it ever existed - didn't last very long,"
said Bill Day, a spokesman for Valero.

Two other refineries were shut down since October: Sunoco's Eagle Point
plant, in Westville, N.J., and Western Refining's plant in Bloomfield, N.M.,
with a combined capacity of about 160,000 barrels a day. Refineries in
California and Aruba, the latter operating primarily to supply the United
States market, were also closed earlier this year.

Oil majors, like independent refiners, are also suffering. Exxon Mobil's
domestic refineries lost $203 million in the third quarter, a period when
earnings at its global refining business dropped by $2.7 billion, to $325
million. Chevron earned $34 million at its domestic refineries in the last
quarter, compared with more than $1 billion a year earlier.

In a bid to diversify its supplies, Valero, which has 15 refineries in the
United States, Aruba and Canada, has recently bought a handful of ethanol
refineries. Even though ethanol refiners have also struggled in the
recession, mandates passed by Congress ensure that increasing amounts of
that fuel are likely to be mixed into the nation's gasoline supply in coming
years.

"We recognize that ethanol is an important side of the fuel mix that is not
going to go anywhere," said Mr. Day, of Valero. "That's where the future of
demand growth and transportation fuels will be."

Sid9

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"Sueki Tartridge" <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> report � The True Cost of Chevron � released in time for Chevron's
>> Successor companies of Standard Oil � which once controlled 88 percent
>> of US oil flows � comprised what were known as the "Seven Sisters" and

>> included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and Standard Oil of
>> California, which ultimately became Chevron.
>>
>> The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
>> Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest oil
>> company.
>>
>> Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.
>>
>> Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
>> fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> Go Get 'Em, Guys.
>>
>> Harry
>
> How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a
> gallon of milk is $8 ??

At $4.00 a gallon for gas the country goes green faster.

After the unemployment numbers come down, congress should consider a $2/gal
tax on gasoline.

$1 dollar to go for reducing the financial debt mess Republicans caused and
the other dollar for green incentives.

Balance of trade will improve.

Pollution will drop.

More Americans will be employed

Oil imports will plummet.

Ultimately taxes will fall as the interest on the debt drops

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>>> report � The True Cost of Chevron � released in time for Chevron's
>>> Successor companies of Standard Oil � which once controlled 88 percent
>>> of US oil flows � comprised what were known as the "Seven Sisters" and

>>> included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and Standard Oil of
>>> California, which ultimately became Chevron.
>>>
>>> The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
>>> Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest oil
>>> company.
>>>
>>> Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.
>>>
>>> Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
>>> fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Go Get 'Em, Guys.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>
>> How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a
>> gallon of milk is $8 ??
>
> At $4.00 a gallon for gas the country goes green faster.
>
> After the unemployment numbers come down, congress should consider a
> $2/gal tax on gasoline.

Good idea. Let's do it.

> $1 dollar to go for reducing the financial debt mess Republicans caused
> and the other dollar for green incentives.

Let's put that second dollar to reducing the national
debt created by the Democrats.

> Balance of trade will improve.

Doubt it.

> Pollution will drop.

Perhaps, but will be barely measurable.

> More Americans will be employed

More likely the opposite would occur.

> Oil imports will plummet.

Probably.

> Ultimately taxes will fall as the interest on the debt drops

Only after we finally have the backbone to send those
incumbent national politicians packing.


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Sid9

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"Bob" <n...@email.address> wrote in message
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>>>> report - The True Cost of Chevron - released in time for Chevron's
>>>> Successor companies of Standard Oil - which once controlled 88 percent
>>>> of US oil flows - comprised what were known as the "Seven Sisters" and

>>>> included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and Standard Oil of
>>>> California, which ultimately became Chevron.
>>>>
>>>> The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
>>>> Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest oil
>>>> company.
>>>>
>>>> Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.
>>>>
>>>> Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
>>>> fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Go Get 'Em, Guys.
>>>>
>>>> Harry
>>>
>>> How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a
>>> gallon of milk is $8 ??
>>
>> At $4.00 a gallon for gas the country goes green faster.
>>
>> After the unemployment numbers come down, congress should consider a
>> $2/gal tax on gasoline.
>
> Good idea. Let's do it.
>
>> $1 dollar to go for reducing the financial debt mess Republicans caused
>> and the other dollar for green incentives.
>
> Let's put that second dollar to reducing the national
> debt created by the Democrats.
=============
Everyone (except you) knows that the debt growth was caused by Reagan, HW
Bush, and his retarded son, bush,jr.
=============


>
>> Balance of trade will improve.
>
> Doubt it.

============
Dumb......with oil imports down our balance of trade will improve....didn't
your Momma teach you arithmetic?
============


>
>> Pollution will drop.
>
> Perhaps, but will be barely measurable.

==============
Try reading the article above. I know it's got long words but you can find
the meanings on the internet
==============

>
>> More Americans will be employed
>
> More likely the opposite would occur.
>

===============
Lots of green projects in the planning.
It a good field to get into early
================

>> Oil imports will plummet.
>
> Probably.
>
>> Ultimately taxes will fall as the interest on the debt drops
>
> Only after we finally have the backbone to send those
> incumbent national politicians packing.
>

===============
We got rid of of bush,jr and his administration. That will fix most of the
problem.
===============

Oh.

I'm sorry to be replying.
It wont happen again.

Goodbye.

Bob

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> "Bob" <n...@email.address> wrote in message
> news:e04d5$4b339730$4107e27c$10...@news.flashnewsgroups.com...
>> "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:hh03eo$mmm$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>> How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a


>>>> gallon of milk is $8 ??
>>>
>>> At $4.00 a gallon for gas the country goes green faster.
>>>
>>> After the unemployment numbers come down, congress should consider a
>>> $2/gal tax on gasoline.
>>
>> Good idea. Let's do it.
>>
>>> $1 dollar to go for reducing the financial debt mess Republicans caused
>>> and the other dollar for green incentives.
>>
>> Let's put that second dollar to reducing the national
>> debt created by the Democrats.
> =============
> Everyone (except you) knows that the debt growth was caused by Reagan, HW
> Bush, and his retarded son, bush,jr.
> =============

Incorrect. But that happens to you a lot, Sid.


Clairbear

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> "Sueki Tartridge" <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:a87c1a17-ff3e-4509-8f51-a2fe7ecf12c7
@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.

>> l/i... Juhasz brings to the campaign a depth of knowledge about the

Obama did not stop anything Economic forces slowed the gas price rise as
few can afford to guzzle gas like a dunk at an all night open bar

Clairbear

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> "Sueki Tartridge" <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:a87c1a17-ff3e-4509-8f51-a2fe7ecf12c7
@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.
> ..

>>> il/i... Juhasz brings to the campaign a depth of knowledge about the


>>> oil industry and a penchant for understanding how the media works.
>>>
>>> It was her idea, for example, to create an alternative shareholder

>>> report � The True Cost of Chevron � released in time for Chevron's

>>> Successor companies of Standard Oil � which once controlled 88
>>> percent of US oil flows � comprised what were known as the "Seven


>>> Sisters" and included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and
>>> Standard Oil of California, which ultimately became Chevron.
>>>
>>> The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
>>> Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest
>>> oil company.
>>>
>>> Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.
>>>
>>> Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
>>> fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Go Get 'Em, Guys.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>
>> How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a
>> gallon of milk is $8 ??
>
> At $4.00 a gallon for gas the country goes green faster.

No people just curtail excess wasteful driving


> After the unemployment numbers come down, congress should consider a
> $2/gal tax on gasoline.

Nad the tax will kill the economy again and put more people out of work

> $1 dollar to go for reducing the financial debt mess Republicans
> caused and the other dollar for green incentives.

Yeah right obama and teh dem have tripled the deficit in the first year
of obama and the healthcare scam will jack up the debt even more
The dem controlled congress is killing us with debt to the point that
the green revolution will be set back by years or maybe decades


> Balance of trade will improve.

Not likely as we have less and less to export as as Obama's taxes will
kill jobs in manufacturing
> Pollution will drop.
Yeah no one will be able to afford to drive as the dem taxes will kill
jobs


> More Americans will be employed

Wrong again taxes KILL jobs
> Oil imports will plummet.
Poeple who are'nt working can afford to drive vacation or buy and petro
chemical dependent products


> Ultimately taxes will fall as the interest on the debt drops
>

Taxes will fall by raising taxes? you are become more and more unsatble
you better get stronger meds for you alzhiemers related dementia

Sueki Tartridge

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Winner?? HUH??

Sueki Tartridge

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Obama said the only problem he had with $5 a gallon gas was it got
there too fast. Now,how did Obama "stop" it??

Sueki Tartridge

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Dec 25, 2009, 10:02:25 PM12/25/09
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On Dec 24, 10:05 am, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
> "Sueki Tartridge" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> report — The True Cost of Chevron — released in time for Chevron's
> >> Successor companies of Standard Oil — which once controlled 88 percent
> >> of US oil flows — comprised what were known as the "Seven Sisters" and

> >> included Exxon, Mobil, BP, Shell, Gulf, Mobil, and Standard Oil of
> >> California, which ultimately became Chevron.
>
> >> The sequential subsuming of Gulf (1985), Texaco (2001), and then
> >> Unocal (2005) allowed Chevron to become the world's second-largest oil
> >> company.
>
> >> Just 36 countries have a larger gross domestic product than Chevron.
>
> >> Based on annual revenues, it is California's largest and the world's
> >> fifth-largest corporation, with operations in 122 countries.
>
> >> ___________________________________________________
>
> >> Go Get 'Em, Guys.
>
> >> Harry
>
> > How "nervous" will you moonbats be when gas is $10 a gallon and a
> > gallon of milk is $8 ??
>
> At $4.00 a gallon for gas the country goes green faster.
>
> After the unemployment numbers come down, congress should consider a $2/gal
> tax on gasoline.
>
> $1 dollar to go for reducing the financial debt mess Republicans caused and
> the other dollar for green incentives.
>
> Balance of trade will improve.
>
> Pollution will drop.
>
> More Americans will be employed
>
> Oil imports will plummet.
>
> Ultimately taxes will fall as the interest on the debt drops- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Bullshit sid. But keep drinking the kool-aid. Nobody will EVER change
your mind. You're just another Obama useful idiot.

Sueki Tartridge

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Dec 25, 2009, 10:04:29 PM12/25/09
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On Dec 24, 10:32 am, My China Blue Heaven <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In article <hh03eo$mm...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>  "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
> > Oil imports will plummet.
>
> Fewer American youths will be killed and maimed in southern Asia.
>

Oh? Even after the NEXT terrorist attack on American soil??
Oh,that's right. Obama will just write the jihadists a letter and tell
them how sorry he is for America's bad behaviour.

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