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UK Israeli lobby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtk6G7q4Bw
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23997.htm
US lobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukv85nc-VOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTQ6ystWrw
Dispatches: Inside Britain's Pro-Israel Lobby (the pro-Israel biased
'American' media would never broadcast such a documentary as we saw
how CBS '60 Minutes' refused to do a segment on the Mearsheimer/Walt
book!):
http://america-hijacked.com/2009/11/22/dispatches-inside-britains-pro-israel-lobby/
'60 Minutes' refusing to cover Mearsheimer/Walt book
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> By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent
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> Three years ago I was invited, along with 30 other guests - mainly
> politicians and journalists - to a private dinner party given by one
> of Britain's richest Jews at a Jerusalem hotel. After a mediocre steak
> and some fantastic wine, we were addressed by our host. The British
> media were a disgrace, he told us, "real Goebbels-style." Their
> coverage of the Second Lebanon War had totally ruined his summer
> holiday. And the British politicians, many of whom he had donated to
> in the past, were with few exceptions "all pusillanimous hypocrites"
> who had criticized Israel's "disproportionate" response to Hezbollah's
> attacks.
>
> What was needed, he said, was a new "crack team" of media specialists
> to be based in London, to compile information, brief journalists and
> prepare instant responses to all the mendacious lies issued by the
> hostile press. He expected us all to applaud and congratulate him on
> his visionary idea, which he assured us he was willing to fund
> handsomely. Some did applaud, whether out of agreement or sycophancy,
> but he was perplexed when he discovered that not all of us were so
> certain that the war had been Israel's finest hour. How could we be
> giving succor to Israel's haters, he asked.
>
> The millionaire flew back to England on his private jet and to the
> best of my knowledge his media attack team was never formed. "With the
> price of a meal, he bought you as a captive audience for three hours,"
> said a friend familiar with these events. "He does the same thing back
> home every month and gives the same speech. The politicians all come
> because they know there's a good chance they will get a check out of
> it for their campaigns."
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> Last year I saw it happening on British soil. I covered the
> Conservative Party convention in Birmingham and attended a luncheon
> organized by the Conservative Friends of Israel in a room packed with
> senior party members and donors. Upon hearing I was an Israeli
> journalist, the shadow minister I was seated next to launched into an
> off-the-record attack on Conservative Leader David Cameron for being
> "much too wishy-washy about Israel," instead of supporting it
> outright. For all public and political purposes, my lunch companion is
> a staunch Cameron ally, but he obviously assumed that as an Israeli at
> a Conservative Friends event, that's what I expected to hear from
> him.
>
> Having had these and other brief glimpses of the pro-Israel lobby in
> Britain, I was intrigued by the title of the documentary on Channel 4
> this week - "Inside Britain's Israel Lobby" - and bitterly
> disappointed after watching it.
>
> You'd have to be particularly ill-informed to be surprised that well-
> connected, pro-Israeli groups try to lobby the main British political
> parties and that wealthy individuals connected to such groups donate
> large sums to the parties and many members of Parliament. It's also
> well known that they also fly many MPs over to Israel on fact-finding
> visits and that some believe that this influences these politicians'
> attitudes and their parties' policies regarding Israel and the Middle
> East conflict. Hardly surprising.
>
> Aside from this, the program's host and producer, Peter Oborne, had so
> little new information he had to dedicate a third of the show to a
> description of how pro-Israel organizations monitor the British media,
> generating massive email- writing campaigns over any criticism of
> Israel, often portraying these as anti-Semitic. Nothing really new
> there, either.
>
> Oborne used the classic follow-the-money tactic, but as he had to
> admit at the end of the program, he'd failed to discover any evidence
> of a conspiracy or illegality.
>
> But the real problem with today's Israel lobby, in Britain and the
> United States, is not with its finances and their lack of transparency
> but with its entire mind-set. The basic fact is that by its actions,
> the lobby is now causing Israel more harm than good. That's the point
> Oborne almost totally missed. On every level - moral, political,
> diplomatic, economic, military and religious - this country is being
> rapidly corrupted and damaged by the continuing occupation of the West
> Bank. By granting blanket support to all policies of whatever Israeli
> government happens to be in power, and by branding critics of these
> policies as either self-hating Jews or anti-Semites, they're
> contributing to Israel's siege mentality and delaying the day when
> Israelis will finally realize that there's only one practical and
> ethical alternative.
>
> In this sense at least, Oborne was right to make the connection
> between the political lobbying and the relentless pressure on the
> media which has totally blurred the lines between legitimate criticism
> and real bias. These knee-jerk reactions to any form of criticism have
> become so second nature to the Israel lobbyists that they're now
> trying to stifle debate even within the Israeli media. Their shrill
> reactions to the eyewitness accounts of soldiers who fought in Gaza
> and were brave enough to say that the IDF did not always act there as
> "the most moral army in the world" are a good example.
>
> We are at a pivotal point. The rise of the right in Israel's last
> election does not signal that the voters are opposed to territorial
> compromise and a two-state solution. On the contrary, polls
> consistently show a clear majority of Israelis favoring this outcome,
> but they seem to prefer a right-wing prime minister to carry out a
> leftist policy. In effect, Israelis voted for Benjamin Netanyahu
> hoping that he'd go against his party's manifesto. All the signs point
> to a prime minister on the brink of a decision. He could take the
> plunge or he could retreat back into his ideological and political
> comfort zone. International pressure will play a major role in
> persuading him to make a necessary decision, but the message emanating
> from the Israel lobby is that should he decide to hold out and play
> for time, he will continue to receive their unreserved support.
>
> Such support could prolong Israel's procrastination - with deadly
> consequences.
>
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> US lobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukv85nc-VOA
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTQ6ystWrw
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> Dispatches: Inside Britain's Pro-Israel Lobby (the pro-Israel biased
> 'American' media would never broadcast such a documentary as we saw
> how CBS '60 Minutes' refused to do a segment on the Mearsheimer/Walt
> book!):
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> http://tinyurl.com/yfmbum7
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fuck the Israeli/jewish lobby really hard - they are a blight on every
nation they inhabit
some people need killin'
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Complete waste of time.
Israel doesn't need to lobby anyone when her enemies and our enemies are
one and the same:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks
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>> Such support could prolong Israel's procrastination - with deadly
>> consequences.
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Fuck off, moron
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NO WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME AIM, THE SAME TEMPERAMENT OR THE SAME BELIEFS IN
TRUTH , HONOR AND JUSTICE.
JUST IN THE FOLLOWING.
YOU MIGHT RECOGNISE HTM, HE'S ENGLISH TO.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1360.shtml
IOF Snipers responsible for Western, Palestinian deaths
By Nick Fuller-Googins Published: Tuesday, January 20, 2004
http://electronicintifada.net/bytopic/people/213.shtml
Israel initially made a series of wild claims about the circumstances of
the shooting.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1360.shtml
These included suggesting Tom was dressed in a military uniform and was
shooting at the tower, contradicting the reports of multiple eyewitnesses
and photos of the event which depict Tom in a flourescent jacket.
Israelis Fire on Parents of Injured British Peace Activist
by Cahal Milmo
Concerns were being raised yesterday over the conduct of Israeli soldiers in
the south of the Gaza Strip. The incident in which the Hurndalls were fired
at comes not only after their son was shot in Rafah, but after two other
Westerners were killed in the city.
NOW THIS IS THE STORY YOU ALL TRIED TO SELL THROUGH G.Y. WHO MIGHT BE AN
AQUAINTANCE OF YOURS.
FrontPage magazine.com :: Solidarity With Terrorists by Greg Yardley
... On Friday, April 11th, 2003, Tom Hurndall was shot in the head ... At
the time of his injury, Tom Hurndall was armed, wearing tiger fatigues, and
shooting at a Israeli ...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7361
AND THAN THERES RACHEL
Rachel Corrie
American and Australian shot by Israelis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefIti-uFUo&feature=related
Just compare the difference below.
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion?? For killing
a non jewish american? And gets to smirk about it?
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1993/051693.htm
Compounding the duplicity swirling around the case was the jurors'
remarkable verdict: Mr. Nelson was indeed guilty of depriving his victim of
his civil rights by stabbing him - but not by killing him. Thus, instead of
a possible life sentence, the murderer, with credit for time served, may be
a free man in a matter of months.
http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/3dayriot.html
It is thus with intense interest that we watch as a federal jury in Brooklyn
hears the case of United States vs. Lemrick Nelson, Jr. and Charles Price --
respectively, the accused killer of Yankel Rosenbaum, and the man charged
with inciting the mob that pursued Rosenbaum. As Coalition goes to press,
the trial has finally begun and the prosecution is presenting powerful
evidence against the two defendants
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnliRXAIyIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvzlFBgbHVE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTQ6ystWrw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ
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USA and Canada are forced to pay taxes to the Zionist when buying
caned food! WHY??!!
http://kosherfood.about.com/od/guidetokosherfoodlabels/ss/symbols.htm
UK Israeli lobby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtk6G7q4Bw
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23997.htm
US lobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukv85nc-VOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTQ6ystWrw
Dispatches: Inside Britain's Pro-Israel Lobby (the pro-Israel biased
'American' media would never broadcast such a documentary as we saw
how CBS '60 Minutes' refused to do a segment on the Mearsheimer/Walt
book!):
http://america-hijacked.com/2009/11/22/dispatches-inside-britains-pro-israel-lobby/
'60 Minutes' refusing to cover Mearsheimer/Walt book
Additional at http://AMERICA-HIJACKED.COM
> Complete waste of time.
>
> Israel doesn't need to lobby anyone when her enemies and our enemies are
> one and the same:
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FORCE ON US.
WHILE KILLING CHRISTIANS IN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL.
THE LIE IS PART OF THEIR RELIGION, CHECK THE TALMUD
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584&hl=en
DONT HAVE TO TAKE TED'S WORD
LOOK ONE UP YOURSELF
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/talmud.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALCSSLPsiWs
CHECK THE WHOLE HOLOHOAXING BUNCH.
http://images.google.co.id/images?hl=id&um=1&sa=1&q=%2251+documents
%22&btnG=Telusuri+gambar&aq=f&oq=&start=0
The Alternative Tour of Auschwitz: An Independent Investigation of the
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09s
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/009_jam.html
http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm
Jewish officials in a major Italian news agency tried to cover the story
up, but were circumvented by Italian news reporters, who broadcast scenes
from the films live at prime time on Italian television to more than 11
million Italian viewers. Jewish officials then fired the executives
responsible, claiming they were spreading "blood libel."
ISRAELI CRAZIES AT WORK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl6-ezZTlYc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sdnyAgR4bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00NzIAQ7lvk&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GCJsfVBo-8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pdvo3-A4d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_CRzdlA5To&feature=channel
http://theconnexion.net/wp/?p=4566
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ST5m9pREQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=But9m3O4umI&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3GBBIdmgoM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpBM-G9bRaY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmEBPDZCWtM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8guH898FIUQ&feature=related
http://media-islam.or.id/2009/11/16/video-gaza-the-new-holocaust/
after58seconds
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YEAH AND WE KNOW WHY IT STARTED AND WHY IT WILL KEEP GOING AS SHOWN ABOVE
THE INHUMAN RACIST JEWISH SUPREMICIST REGIME WHO IS KILLING CHRISTIAN BABIES
ALONG WITH THE OTHERS.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THEY ARE HIDEN, NO GRAVES, THEY DONT WANT TO ANNOY THE
CHRISTIANS DO THEY?
Institute for Historical Review
http://www.ihr.org/
News Source: Institute for Historical Review
America, England and Australia's best being cut down by israel because they
find it hard to stand by while they cut down children.
http://www.time.com/time/europe/hero/caoimhebutterly.html
The 24-year-old Dubliner was luckier than British peace activist Ton
Hurndall who, in similar circumstances this month in Gaza, was shot in the
head and now lies in a coma.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1360.shtml
Rachel
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/ --
http://www.counterpunch.org/said06232003.html
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0123-07.htm
AND ALL MUSL;IM ATTACKS BELOW BASED QUITE CLEARLY ON THE CRUELTIES AND
STEALING OF LAND MONEY AND LIVES OF HELPLESS ARABS. AND CHRISTIANS SO WHERE
ARE THE SAME ENEMIES YOU GREEDY NAZIS..
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks
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>>> Such support could prolong Israel's procrastination - with deadly
>>> consequences.YEAH WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO THINK UP ANOTHER BS STORY TO
>>> EXPLAIN YOUR EXODUS.
THERE WAS NO TROUBLE BETWEEN ARABS TILL YOU SHITS STARTED YOUR SUPREMIST
NAZI REGIME IN ISRAEL.
>>>
AND WE'VE BEEN IN TROUBLE SINCE OUR LEADERS SEEMED TO HAVE TAKES EINSTEIN AS
YOUR MEASURE AND BEEN LETTING JEWS INTO LEADING ADVISO\RY POSITIONS. BEING
TO STUPID TO REALISE THAT EINSTEIN KNEW PHYSECS, BUT STILL HAD TO SEND HIS
TAX TO AN ACCOUNT.
AND FED THE JEWISH APPETITE TO BRING IN MAINLY MORE JEWS TO ALL THE TOP
JOBS.
> Fuck off, moron
Sees nothing wrong with The following.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related
And like the criminals in israel is always sorry. Oh they deeply regret it,
just ask any one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4nWHwoMOw&feature=related
Non-Jewish Wartime camps
http://www.foitimes.com/internment/
http://www.foitimes.com/internment/Stories.htm
B J Foster
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Nope - more like a wake up call
mose
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> YOU BUNCH OF LIARS AND KILLERS.
HOW NICE OF YOU AND YOUR ELDERS TO START WARS FO ISRAEL AD LET US FIGHT EM
AND PAY FOR THEM FOR YOU.
SA FAR BECAUSE OF YOU WE HAVE HAD HUNDREDS OF CIVILIANS KILLED SO THAT YOU
CAN CONTINUE YOUR RACIST NAZI GENOCIDAL REGIME IN ISRAEL
AND IN ISRAEL THERE IS SUBTLE AND OPEN SUPPRESSION AND DISCRIMINATION AND
AGGRESSION AGAINST CHRISTIANS.
NOT CURBED AT ALL BY SANER, LESS FANATICAL JEWS, IF THERE IS ANY SUCH
ANIMAL IN ISRAEL.
IF THERE IS NOT WE SHOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING A NEST OF NUTS NO MATTER HOW
WELL THEY HAVE DONE UNDER OUR SYSTEM OF FREEDOM AND NON DISCRIMINATORY
POLICIES.
http://chirs.infoxchange.net.au/sttp://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/HatredofChristians.htmEgyptUntil the early 1970s two different sets of arithmetic books were usedinIsrael. One for the secular Schools, employing an inverted "T" sign.Inthe early '70's the religious fanatics "converted" the Labor Party tothegreat danger of the cross in arithmetic, and from that time, in allHebrew elementary schools (and now many high schools as well) theinternationalplus sign has been forbidden. Similar development is visiblein other areasof education. Teaching the New Testament was alwaysforbidden, but in theold time conscientious teachers of history used tocircumvent theprohibition, by organizing seminars or sending the studentsto libraries(not the school libraries, of course). About 10 years ago therewas a wave of denouncing such teachers. One inJerusalem was almost sacked,for advising her history pupils, who werestudying the history of Jews inPalestine around 30-40 AD, that it wouldbe a good thing if they would reada few chapters of the New Testament as ahistorical aid. She retained herpost only after humbly promising not todo this again. Nonetheless, it cameinto force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offeringof ��materialinducement�� for a person to change his religion. A materialinducement couldbe something as minor as the giving of a Biblehttp://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol01.html The first point to noteregarding the appropriation of the history of the Holocaust by Zionistpropaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is impossible. Zionismagrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot livewith non-Jews. AND WE ALLOW ACADEMICS WITH THE MOST BARBARIC OFISRAEL/ZIONIST/JEWISH WHO FANATICALLY BELIEVE IN OPPRESSION,DISCRIMINATION,TORTURE ANDRESTRICTIONS OF FREEDOM OF ALL WHO ARE NOT JEWISH HOLD IMPORTANTPOSITIONSIN OUR INSTITUTIONS PASSING ON THIS OPINION OF HATE ANDSUPPRESSION TO OURSTUDENTS AND YOUNG..Good insight into how US foreignpolicy evolves (in a democracy)offered by Prof. Lawrence Davidson of WestChester U:Shorter but broader in scope than Mearsheimer & Walt study oftheinfluence of the American-Israel Public Action Committee (AIPAC) onUSforeign policy. Conclusion: more foreign policy misfortunes are intheforecast for US. Some of Davidson's key points: that in US foreignpolicynational interest becomes what suits the interests and ambitionsof nation'spolitical leaders and their most influential supporters.AIPAC contributed$2,250,000 toward the election campaigns of 1900candidates (2003-4).Between1978 & 2004 AIPAC spent $40-million on USelections and those electedsaw to it that Israel got $l05-BILLION inaid from US taxpayers since WWII.Prof. Davidson also concludes thatbecause of this special interest supportfor Israel during the past 60years US is assured of an anti-Americangoverment (among Arabs) in "anydemocracy in the Middle East." Another ofDavidson's observations isthat the American press cannot be relied upon tosupply objectiveinformation to allow Americans to see through the trick ofpresentingspecial interests as national interests. 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The cremated remains must totalAT LEAST one percent of the alleged massmurder. JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! - JUSTONE PERCENT!SO WE HAVE SILENT AND INACTIVE ACADEMICS, POLITICIANS AND MEDIAWHO ALLOWTHE JEW/ZIONIST/ISRAELI CLIQUE WALK OPENLY AND LOUDLY WITH THEVILEST OFTHREATS OVER OUR , I HOPE, STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS OF FREEDOM OFSPEECH ASSOCIATION. AND RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE NEVER INCORPORATED ORPRACTISED IN ANY STATE IN WHICH THEY HAVE HAD A POSITION OFCONTROL.http://www.tribalmessenger.org/"Pray for the dead and work like hellfor the living" - Mother Jones"It is time for all good men and women to takea stand, because If you standfor nothing, you will fall foranything.Declaration Of Independence"We hold these truths to beself-evident, that all men (and all women) arecreated equal, that they areendowed by their creator with certaininalienable (undeniable) rights, thatamong these are life, liberty, and thepursuit of happiness. That to securethese rights, Governments areinstituted among men, deriving their powersfrom the consent of the governed(the people).That whenever any form of Gov'tbecomes destructive of those ends, it is theright of the People to alter orabolish it, and to institute newGovernment.""Whenever the people arewell-informed, they can be trusted with their owngovernment."-- ThomasJefferson"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics isthat youend up being governed by your inferiors." -- Plato WARNING ToPeople in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain and Switzerland.You can be fined,imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set forth inthis article.http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/083/2001"Mirelle"<mirell...@yahoo.com> wrote inmessagenews:1185005440.1...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...>According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and> U.S.intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a> number ofArabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators> develop the"R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of> the torture methodswere developed by the Israelis over many years of> interrogating Arabprisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel> itself.>>http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html>> Mirelle Jews andPalestinians genetically similar.http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html War without endhttp://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590 Israeli statshttp://www.ifamericansknew.org/Defense Minister Says If Hamas ResumesTerror, New PM Could BeTargethttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/07/world/main1376132.shtmlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3556809.stmPosted on Thu, Dec. 14,2006 Top Israeli court upholds killingpolicyhttp://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/nation/16236587.htmhttp://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/nation/16236587.htmAND THEY COMPLAINED ABOUTLONDONS LORD MAYOR???Everyone please go here=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2xKURltqE&search=israelis%20 Yes and youhave no quarrel with the US? They dont have to, they use their army toshoot, run over and mistreat physically and sexually helpless children.What can a Palestinian do when the mighty money contributing yanks cannotprotect their citizens.MarlonBrando.http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/marlon-brando/Errol Flynn libelhttp://www.errolflynn.net/stats.htmMel GibsonlibelExtravagant Jewishclaimshttp://lincolnplawg.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_lincolnplawg_archive.htmlhttp://catholicinfocenter.netfirms.com/news/Reuters.030803.Jesushttp://www.erichufschmid.net/Eric Hufschmid... Avoiding Zionist traps since 2002. Learntheir tricks andjoin me!Bonnabucci anddicehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnliRXAIyIohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvzlFBgbHVE&feature=relatedhttp://www.erichufschmid.net/video/Ruth-Madoff-blames-Gentiles.wmvFrom RuthMadoff: The Gentiles are responsible for the Madoff'sproblems.http://www.prothink.org/Brendon O'Connell Arrested And Charged YetAgain>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorismIn Islam, the killingof innocent people, women and children is Haraam (notpermitted).YES WE KNOWWHY THEY ATTACKED AND YOU CAN ASK A FEW NON JEWS IF YOU KNOWANY WHAT THEYWOULD HAVE DONE UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS.>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacksTHES GOVERNMENT IN ISRAELDOES NOT WORRY ABOUT CHRISTIANS SO SEEMS PECULIARTHAT AMERICA SUPPORTS THESCRIMINAL ACTIONS BY THE JEWS WHICH BROUTH ABOUTTHESE RTALIATIONS."-"<jazze...@hotmail.com wrote inmessagenews:461c85d7...@news.isomedia.com...http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=288 Liberating America From IsraelIssues; Posted on: 2007-04-10 [ Printerfriendly / Instant flyer ] "For 35 years, not a word has beenexpressed in that committee or in either chamber of Congress thatdeserves to be called debate on Middle East policy." By Paul FindleyNine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused tohelp Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express thisconclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe thecatastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the past35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid untilIsrael withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.The U.S. lobby for Israel is powerful and intimidating, but any determinedpresident - even President Bush this very day - could prevail and winoverwhelming public support for the suspension of aid by laying these factsbefore the American people: Israel's present government, like itspredecessors, is determined to annex the West Bank - biblical Judea andSumaria - so Israel will become Greater Israel. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, whomaintain a powerful role in Israeli politics, believe the Jewish Messiahwill not come until Greater Israel is a reality. Although a minority inIsrael, they are committed, aggressive, and influential. Because of deepreligious conviction, they are determined to prevent Palestinians fromgaining statehood on any part of the West Bank. In its violent assaults onPalestinians, Israel uses the pretext of eradicating terrorism, but itsforces are actually engaged advancing the territorial expansion just cited.Under the guise of anti-terrorism, Israeli forces treat Palestinians worsethan cattle. With due process nowhere to be found, hundreds are detainedfor long periods and most are tortured. Some are assassinated. Homes,orchards, and business places are destroyed. Entire cities are kept underintermittent curfew, some confinements lasting for weeks. Injured or illPalestinians needing emergency medical care are routinely held atcheckpoints for an hour or more. Many children are undernourished. The WestBank and Gaza have become giant concentration camps. None of this couldhave occurred without U.S. support. Perhaps Israeli officials believe lifewill become so unbearable that most Palestinians will eventually leavetheir ancestral homes. Once beloved worldwide, the U.S. government findsitself reviled in most countries because it provides unconditional supportof Israeli violations of the United Nations Charter, international law, andthe precepts of all major religious faiths. How did the American peopleget into this fix? Nine-eleven had its principal origin 35 years ago whenIsrael's U.S. lobby began its unbroken success in stifling debate about theproper U.S. role in the Arab-Israeli conflict and effectively concealedfrom public awareness the fact that the U.S. government gives massiveuncritical support to Israel. Thanks to the suffocating influence ofIsrael's U.S. lobby, open discussion of the Arab-Israeli conflict has beennon-existent in our government all these years. I have firsthand knowledge,because I was a member of the House of Representatives Foreign AffairsCommittee in June 1967 when Israeli military forces took control of theGolan Heights, a part of Syria, as well as the Palestinian West Bank andGaza. I continued as a member for 16 years, and to this day maintain aclose watch on Congress. For 35 years, not a word has been expressed inthat committee or in either chamber of Congress that deserves to be calleddebate on Middle East policy. No restrictive or limiting amendments on aidto Israel have been offered for 20 years, and none of the few offered inprevious years received more than a handful of votes. On Capitol Hill,criticism of Israel, even in private conversation, is all but forbidden,treated as downright unpatriotic, if not anti-Semitic. The continuedabsence of free speech was assured when those few who spoke out - SenatorsAdlai Stevenson and Charles Percy, and Reps. Paul "Pete" McCloskey, CynthiaMcKinney, Earl Hilliard, and myself - were defeated at the polls bycandidates heavily financed by pro-Israel forces. As a result, legislationdealing with the Middle East has been heavily biased in favor of Israel andagainst Palestinians and other Arabs year after year. Home constituencies,misled by news coverage equally lop-sided in Israel's favor, remain largelyunaware that Congress behaves as if it were a subcommittee of the Israeliparliament. However, the bias is widely noted beyond America, where mostnews media candidly cover Israel's conquest and generally excoriateAmerica's complicity and complacency. When President Bush welcomed IsraeliPrime Minister Ariel Sharon, sometimes called the Butcher of Beirut, as "mydear friend" and "a man of peace" after Israeli forces, using U.S.-donatedarms, completed their devastation of the West Bank last spring, worldwideanger against American policy reached the boiling point. The fury shouldsurprise no one who reads foreign newspapers or listens to BBC. In severaltelevised statements long before 9/11, Osama bin Laden, believed by U.S.authorities to have masterminded 9/11, cited U.S. complicity in Israel'sdestruction of Palestinian society as a principal complaint. Prominentforeigners, in and out of government, express their opposition to U.S.policies with unprecedented frequency and severity, especially since Bushannounced his determination to make war against Iraq. The lobby'sintimidation remains pervasive. It seems to reach every government center,and even houses of worship and revered institutions of higher learning. Itis highly effective in silencing the many U.S. Jews who object to thelobby's tactics and Israel's brutality. Nothing can justify 9/11. Thoseguilty deserve maximum punishment, but it makes sense for America toexamine motivations promptly and as carefully as possible. Terrorism almostalways arises from deeply-felt grievances. If they can be eradicated oreased, terrorist passions are certain to subside. Today, a year after9/11, President Bush has made no attempt to redress grievances, or even toidentify them. In fact, he has made the scene far worse by supportingIsrael's religious war against Palestinians, an alliance that hasintensified anti-American anger. He seems oblivious to the fact that nearlytwo billion people worldwide regard the plight of Palestinians as today'smost important foreign-policy challenge. No one in authority will admit acalamitous reality that is skillfully shielded from the American people butclearly recognized by most of the world: America suffered 9/11 and itsaftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because U.S. policy inthe Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington. Israel is a scofflawnation and should be treated as such. Instead of helping Sharon intensifyPalestinian misery, our president should suspend all aid until Israel endsits occupation of Arab land Israel seized in 1967. The suspension wouldforce Sharon's compliance or lead to his removal from office, as theIsraeli electorate will not tolerate a prime minister who is at odds withthe White House. If Bush needs an additional reason for doing the rightthing, he can justify the suspension as a matter of military necessity, anessential step in winning international support for his war on terrorism.He can cite a worthy precedent. When President Abraham Lincoln issued theproclamation that freed only the slaves in states that were then inrebellion, he made the restriction because of "military necessity." If Bushsuspends U.S. aid, he will liberate all Americans from long years ofbondage to Israel's misdeeds. About the author Paul Findley, a U.S.Congressional Representative from Illinois 1961-83, is the author of threebooks related to the Middle East, including They Dare to Speak Out: Peopleand Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby (1985) and, most recently, SilentNo More: Confronting America's False Images of Islam. He resides inJacksonville, Illinois. This essay was issued on Sept. 12, 2002. Institutefor Historical Review http://www.ihr.org/ News Source: Institute forHistorical ReviewAmerica, England and Australia's best being cut down byisrael because theyfind it hard to stand by while they cut downchildren.http://www.time.com/time/europe/hero/caoimhebutterly.htmlThe24-year-old Dubliner was luckier than British peace activist TonHurndallwho, in similar circumstances this month in Gaza, was shot in thehead andnow lies in acoma.http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1360.shtmlRachelhttp://www.rachelcorrie.org/ --http://www.counterpunch.org/said06232003.htmlhttp://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.htmlhttp://www.commondreams.org/views04/0123-07.htmStrike BreakingSTRIKE BREAKING (AS REPORTED BY NYTAND OTHER AMERICAN PAPERS)THE JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT HIRSH GOODMAN -they have not received anyterrorist training, nor are they members of aterrorist organization. Ratherthey aremembers of that Palestinian generationthat grew up knowing nothing butoccupationWith anger, hatred, and sheerferocity, thousands of youngsters hurled rocksat their Israeli occupiers,undaunted by the gunfire that greeted them. Thiswas more than civil unrest....It was the beginning of a civil rebellion -Dan Fisher, Los Angeles Times,December 20, 1987.On that day, - wrote John Kifner in The New York Times, -the vast army ofArab laborers who wait on tables, pick vegetables, haulgarbage, lay brickand perform virtually all Israel's menial work, stayedhome.: John Kifner,New York Times, December 22, 1987.The Israeli response tothe uprising was brutal. Defense Minister YitzhakRabin ordered the use oftanks, armored vehicles and automatic riflesagainst an unarmedpopulation.The San Francisco Examiner cited Rabin as openly advocatingassassination."They can shoot to hit leaders of disorder," Rabin said indefense of thearmy's practice of using marksmen with high-powered.22-caliber rifles toshoot indiscriminately at Palestinian youth. - SanFrancisco Examiner,December 23, 1987. Rabin ordered house-to-house searches,first for young men and later foranyone of whom an example might be made. ByDecember 27, over 2,500Palestinians were seized, many of them as young astwelve; by the end ofJanuary the number reached 4,000 and was rising. The"militants "weremarked for deportation. Israeli high-security jails anddetention centerswere overflowing. Mass trials of Palestinians wereunderway.The act of brutality which most inflamed the Palestinian populationwas thearmy seizure of the wounded from hospital beds. This practice,standardprocedure throughout the invasion of Lebanon in 1982, made ShifaHospital inGaza a center of resistance. Great crowds amassed to defend thewounded,whom, they rightfully feared, would never be seen again.No fear ofJews standing up against cruelty and sadism as the Christians DIDagain andagain.The Testimony of aRescuerhttp://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/people/rescuer.htmhttp://www.auschwitz.dk/docu/Default.htmhttp://www.auschwitz.dk/Denmark.htmhttp://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.py?people/r/roberts.jeff/1996/roberts.1096http://www.resistance.com/Hayward/hay2.htmlhttp://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.py?people/r/roberts.jeff/1996/roberts.1096REMEMBER THIS IS AN UNARMEDPOPULATION UNDER OCCUPATION. -http://www.mafhoum.com/press2/74P51.htmAmother of a Palestinian man shot three times in the head by Israelisoldierswas asked if she would let her remaining sons join thedemonstrations. " Aslong as I am alive, "she responded, "I am going toteach the young people tofight ... I don't care whatever happens, as longas we get our land." - JohnKifner, New York Times, December 21, 1987."They entered the house likeanimals, shouting," the 22-year old student atBir Zeit University said."They took us from the house, kicking us in thehead, beating us, all thesoldiers with their rifle butts."Two others, hesaid, beat his hands withlengths of two-by-fours, breaking the bones.The first priority is to useforce, might, beatings. [This] is consideredmore effective than detention... [because] he may then resume stoningsoldiers. But if troops break hishand, he won't be able to throw stones. -New York Times, January 21,1988.AGAINST AN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION.No matter which house one calls,the anguished accounts of family memberswounded or arrested pour forth.Convoys of buses cruise the streets ofNablus followed by vans of the Mossad,Israel's secret police. Army units gofrom house to house pulling youths fromtheir beds at 3 a.m. As the busesfill, the soldiers beat the youthsviciously around the head, shins, groinand back. Shrieks fill theair.AGAINST AN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION.By April 1988 over 150Palestinians had died. The Israeli government hadadmitted to the arrest of2,000 people, bringing the acknowledged total to4,000. The real figure wasfar higher.Sources in the West Bank and Gaza established that the numberdetained bythe weekend of March 27 had exceeded 13,000. Bassam Shaka'a,deposed Mayorof Nablus, placed the total held solely in a hastilyconstructed barbed-wireencampment at Dhariyah at 10,000.AGAINST AN UNARMEDCIVILIAN POPULATION.In the Balata camp outside Nablus, and in the Casbah -the old quarter -l, 000 people were arrested in a period of 48 hours.AGAINSTAN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION. THE DISCOVERY OF PEOPLE IN DITCHES IN THEFIELDS - SHOT IN THE BACK ORWITH THEIR HEADS CAVED IN - HAS BEEN REPORTEDFROM VILLAGES THROUGHOUT THEWEST BANK AND GAZATWO OF THE CHILDREN, AGES 9AND 11 , WERE TAKEN BY THE SOLDIERS IN THEIRnight clothes, frog-marched inthe streets and beaten as they were forced bythe jeering soldiers to cleardebris.NEW YORK TIMESFleets of helicopters fly over Nablus at night droppinga dense, green toxicgas over the city. The smell pervades every house. Armedunits firecanisters of the substance into houses at random. Doctors atIttihadHospital reported several deaths and severe lung injuries from thisas-yetunidentified asphyxiating chemical, totally distinct from teargas.Among the victims was the grandmother of the Da'as family andthe100-year-old father of noted Nablus attorney Mohammad Irshaid. Soldiershadentered the house at 2 a.m., smashing furniture and firing a canister ofthedreaded green gas while preventing the family fromleaving.Simultaneously, the Israeli army targeted the hospitals. Army trucksrammedambulances and blocked them from reaching the homes of those overcomeby thegas. Soldiers entered the Ittihad Hospital in Nablus numeroustimes,arresting the wounded and those waiting to give blood to familymembers.EVEN THE OPERATING THEATRE WAS INVADED WHILE SURGEONS WERE OPERATINGONPATIENTS.DOCTORS WERE BEATEN AND EQUIPMENT SMASHED. FAMILY MEMBERS WEREPREVENTEDFROM ENTERING THE HOSPITAL AND THE CARS OF DOCTORS AND NURSES WEREDESTROYEDBY SOLDIERS.Meanwhile, all of Nablus was paralysed by a totalstrike. All the streets inevery quarter of the city were without open shopsor business activity. Asgas permeated the city, cries and chants filled thenight.Gas canisters recovered by Bassam Shaka'a, Yousef al-Masri [chief ofIttihadHospital] and American author Alfred Lilienthal bear the markings"560 cs.Federal Lab. Saltsburg, Pa. USA MK2 1988." Biochemists are studyingtheirproperties as casualties mount.JOHN KIFNER reported on April 4 that"Hundreds of refugees weretreated inUnited Nations clinics for gasinhalation." On April 15, Kifner wrote,"...gas has been thrown inside homes,clinics and schools where the effectsare particularly severe."This is stillgoing on today, just cleverly concealed with activeparticipation of westerndemocracies governments, western democraciesreligious institions and westerndemocracies media.Apparently only the ungodly unreligious students findtheir conscience sostirred that they have gone to the oppressed citizensaid with thefollowingresults.http://jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-stalin.htmlhttp://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefIti-uFUo&feature=related
B J Foster
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>> Nope - more like a wake up call .
Question: Who is responsible for all these terrorist attacks?
>> OH I WISH OUR LEADERS WOULD WAKE UP TO
>> YOU BUNCH OF LIARS AND KILLERS.
>
Answer: Islamic fundamentalists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks
Question: Why?
Answer: "You do not worship besides Him but only names which you have
named (forged) � you and your fathers � for which Allaah has sent down
no authority. The command (or the judgement) is for none but Allaah. He
has commanded that you worship none but Him (i.e. His Monotheism); that
is the (true) straight religion, but most men know not"
IOW, belief in Islam is the belief that democracy is the enemy.
mose
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SNIP --- USUAL
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HOW NICE OF YOU AND YOUR ELDERS
TO START WARS FOR ISRAEL AND LET US FIGHT EM AND PAY FOR THEM FOR YOU.
SO
FAR BECAUSE OF YOU WE HAVE HAD HUNDREDS OF CIVILIANS KILLED SO THAT YOU
CAN
CONTINUE YOUR RACIST NAZI GENOCIDAL REGIME IN ISRAEL
AND YES I AM REFERING TO THE SUICIDE BOMBERS.
AND
IN ISRAEL THERE IS SUBTLE AND OPEN SUPPRESSION AND DISCRIMINATION AND AGGRESSION
AGAINST CHRISTIANS.
NOT CURBED AT ALL BY SANER, LESS FANATICAL
JEWS, IF THERE IS ANY SUCH ANIMAL IN ISRAEL.
IF THERE IS NOT WE SHOULD NOT BE
SUPPORTING A NEST OF NUTS NO MATTER HOW WELL THEY HAVE DONE UNDER OUR SYSTEM OF
FREEDOM AND NON DISCRIMINATORY POLICIES.
Ø
Ø http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/spittingoncross.htm
Ø Ihe early 1970s two different sets of arithmetic books were used in Israel.
Ø One for the secular Schools, employing an inverted "T" sign.Inthe early '70's the religious fanatics "converted" the Labor Party to the great danger of the cross in arithmetic, and from that time, in all Hebrew elementary schools (and now many high schools as well) the international plus sign has been forbidden. Similar development is visible in other areas of education. Teaching the New Testament was always forbidden, but in theold time conscientious teachers of history used to circumvent the prohibition, by organizing seminars or sending the studentsto libraries(not the school libraries, of course). About 10 years ago there was a wave of denouncing such teachers. One in Jerusalem was almost sacked, for advising her history pupils, who were studying the history of Jews in Palestine around 30-40 AD, that it would be a good thing if they would read a few chapters of the New Testament as a historical aid. She retained her post only after humbly promising not to do this again. Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offering of ¡§material inducement¡¨ for a person to change his religion. A material inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible
Ø http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol01.html
Ø The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot live with non-Jews. AND WE ALLOW ACADEMICS WITH THE MOST BARBARIC OFISRAEL/ZIONIST/JEWISH WHO FANATICALLY BELIEVE IN OPPRESSION,DISCRIMINATION,TORTURE AND RESTRICTIONS OF FREEDOM OF ALL WHO ARE NOT JEWISH HOLD IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN OUR INSTITUTIONS PASSING ON THIS OPINION OF HATE AND SUPPRESSION TO OUR STUDENTS AND YOUNG..
Ø Good insight into how US foreign policy evolves (in a democracy)offered by Prof. Lawrence Davidson of West Chester U:Shorter but broader in scope than Mearsheimer & Walt study of the influence of the American-Israel Public Action Committee (AIPAC) on US foreign policy. Conclusion: more foreign policy misfortunes are in the forecast for US. Some of Davidson's key points: that in US foreign policy national interest becomes what suits the interests and ambitions of nation's political leaders and their most influential supporters. AIPAC contributed$2,250,000 toward the election campaigns of 1900 candidates (2003-4).Between1978 & 2004 AIPAC spent $40-million on US elections and those elected saw to it that Israel got $l05-BILLION in aid from US taxpayers since WWII. Prof. Davidson also concludes that because of this special interest support for Israel during the past 60years US is assured of an anti-Americangoverment (among Arabs) in "any democracy in the Middle East." Another of Davidson's observations is that the American press cannot be relied upon to supply objective information to allow Americans to see through the trick of presenting special interests as national interests. Tatarewicz The Israel Lobby John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
Ø http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
Ø
Ø AND THESE JEWISH ZEALOTS HAVE NOHESITATION IN ATTACKING ANY PERSON RIGHTHERE IN OUR WESTERN DEMOCRACIES WITHTHE VILEST OF LANGUAGE, UNTRUE CLAIMSSUPPORTED ONLY BECAUSE OF THEIR CONTROLOF THE MEDIA, ACADEMICS AND LOCALPOLITICIANS.Instead of the great principles of west acting as a brake on Israel excesses, we have the opposite. And instead zionist /israel methods are leaking back trough their healthy representation in the wests administration/s.
Ø http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engMDE150832001
Ø Israeliforces have killed Palestinians unlawfully by shooting them during demonstrations and at checkpoints although lives were not in danger. They have shelled residential areas and committed extrajudicial executions. Palestinian armed groups and individuals have deliberately killed Israeli civilians by placing bombs in crowded places and in drive-by shootings.
Ø So this panacea that every objecting in every prison system, little torture chambers in other countries, just carrying on about objecting to western powers? Not the inhuman, apartheid, genocidal nazi methods employed.
Ø
Ø Lest you think there must be some truth to the alleged Treblinka holocaust NAFCASH TM is offering a $250,000.00 REWARD For locating JUST ONE of the alleged "HUGE MASS GRAVES" of Treblinka NAFCASHTM presents THE TREBLINKA CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION CHALLENGE TM You must scientifically - forensically prove the grave's EXACT location, its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged mass murder. JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! - JUSTONE PERCENT!
Ø SO WE HAVE SILENT AND INACTIVE ACADEMICS, POLITICIANS AND MEDIAWHO ALLOWTHE JEW/ZIONIST/ISRAELI CLIQUE WALK OPENLY AND LOUDLY WITH THE VILEST OF THREATS OVER OUR , I HOPE, STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH ASSOCIATION. AND RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE NEVER INCORPORATED OR PRACTISED IN ANY STATE IN WHICH THEY HAVE HAD A POSITION OFCONTROL.
http://www.tribalmessenger.org/
"Pray for the dead and work like hell for the living" - Mother Jones" It is time for all good men and women to take a stand, because If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything. Declaration Of Independence" We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men (and all women) are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable (undeniable) rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed (the people).That whenever any form of Gov't becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." "Whenever the people are well -informed, they can be trusted with their own government."—Thomas Jefferson "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -- Plato WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined, imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set forth in this article.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/083/2001
"Mirelle"<mirell...@yahoo.com wrote inmessagenews:1185005440.1...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and U.S. intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a number of Arabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators develop the"R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of the torture methods were developed by the Israelis over many years of interrogating Arab prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel itself.
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html
Mirelle Jews and Palestinians genetically similar.
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html
War without end
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590
Israeli stats
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Defense Minister Says If Hamas Resumes Terror, New PM Could BeTarget
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/07/world/main1376132.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3556809.stm
Posted on Thu, Dec. 14,2006 Top Israeli court upholds killing policy
http://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/nation/16236587.htm
http://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/nation/16236587.htm
AND THEY COMPLAINED ABOUTLONDONS LORD MAYOR??? Everyone please go here=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2xKURltqE&search=israelis%20
Yes and youhave no quarrel with the US? They dont have to, they use their army to shoot, run over and mistreat physically and sexually helpless children. What can a Palestinian do when the mighty money contributing yanks cannot protect their citizens.
MarlonBrando.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/marlon-brando/
Errol Flynn libel
http://www.errolflynn.net/stats.htm
Mel GibsonlibelExtravagant Jewish claims
http://lincolnplawg.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_lincolnplawg_archive.html
http://catholicinfocenter.netfirms.com/news/Reuters.030803.Jesus
Eric Hufschmid
... Avoiding Zionist traps since 2002. Learn their tricks and join me!
Bonnabucci anddice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnliRXAIyIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvzlFBgbHVE&feature=related
http://www.erichufschmid.net/video/Ruth-Madoff-blames-Gentiles.wmv
From Ruth Madoff: The Gentiles are responsible for the Madoff's problems.
Brendon O'Connell Arrested And Charged YetAgain
Islam, the killingof innocent people, women and children is Haraam (notpermitted).YES WE KNOWWHY THEY ATTACKED AND YOU CAN ASK A FEW NON JEWS IF YOU KNOWANY WHAT THEYWOULD HAVE DONE UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
THIS GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL DOES NOT WORRY ABOUT CHRISTIANS SO SEEMS PECULIARTHAT AMERICA SUPPORTS THESE CRIMINAL ACTIONS BY THE JEWS WHICH BROUGTH ABOUT THESE RETALIATIONS.
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Liberating America From IsraelIssues; Posted on: 2007-04-10 [ Printerfriendly / Instant flyer ] "For 35 years, not a word has been expressed in that committee or in either chamber of Congress that deserves to be called debate on Middle East policy."
By Paul Findley Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused to help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express this conclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe the catastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the past35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid until Israel withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. The U.S. lobby for Israel is powerful and intimidating, but any determined president - even President Bush this very day - could prevail and win overwhelming public support for the suspension of aid by laying these facts before the American people: Israel's present government, like its predecessors, is determined to annex the West Bank - biblical Judea and Sumaria - so Israel will become Greater Israel. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who maintain a powerful role in Israeli politics, believe the Jewish Messiah will not come until Greater Israel is a reality. Although a minority in Israel, they are committed, aggressive, and influential. Because of deep religious conviction, they are determined to prevent Palestinians from gaining statehood on any part of the West Bank. In its violent assaults on Palestinians, Israel uses the pretext of eradicating terrorism, but its forces are actually engaged advancing the territorial expansion just cited. Under the guise of anti-terrorism, Israeli forces treat Palestinians worse than cattle. With due process nowhere to be found, hundreds are detained for long periods and most are tortured. Some are assassinated. Homes, orchards, and business places are destroyed. Entire cities are kept under intermittent curfew, some confinements lasting for weeks. Injured or illPalestinians needing emergency medical care are routinely held at checkpoints for an hour or more. Many children are undernourished. The West Bank and Gaza have become giant concentration camps. None of this could have occurred without U.S. support. Perhaps Israeli officials believe life will become so unbearable that most Palestinians will eventually leave their ancestral homes. Once beloved worldwide, the U.S. government finds itself reviled in most countries because it provides unconditional support of Israeli violations of the United Nations Charter, international law, and the precepts of all major religious faiths. How did the American people get into this fix? Nine-eleven had its principal origin 35 years ago when Israel's U.S. lobby began its unbroken success in stifling debate about the proper U.S. role in the Arab-Israeli conflict and effectively concealed from public awareness the fact that the U.S. government gives massive uncritical support to Israel. Thanks to the suffocating influence of Israel's U.S. lobby, open discussion of the Arab-Israeli conflict has been non-existent in our government all these years. I have firsthand knowledge, because I was a member of the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee in June 1967 when Israeli military forces took control of the Golan Heights, a part of Syria, as well as the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza. I continued as a member for 16 years, and to this day maintain a close watch on Congress. For 35 years, not a word has been expressed in that committee or in either chamber of Congress that deserves to be called debate on Middle East policy. No restrictive or limiting amendments on aid to Israel have been offered for 20 years, and none of the few offered in previous years received more than a handful of votes. On Capitol Hill, criticism of Israel, even in private conversation, is all but forbidden, treated as downright unpatriotic, if not anti-Semitic. The continued absence of free speech was assured when those few who spoke out – Senators Adlai Stevenson and Charles Percy, and Reps. Paul "Pete" McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, and myself - were defeated at the polls by candidates heavily financed by pro-Israel forces. As a result, legislation dealing with the Middle East has been heavily biased in favor of Israel and against Palestinians and other Arabs year after year. Home constituencies, misled by news coverage equally lop-sided in Israel's favor, remain largely unaware that Congress behaves as if it were a subcommittee of the Israeli parliament. However, the bias is widely noted beyond America, where most news media candidly cover Israel's conquest and generally excoriate America's complicity and complacency. When President Bush welcomed Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, sometimes called the Butcher of Beirut, as "my dear friend" and "a man of peace" after Israeli forces, using U.S.-donated arms, completed their devastation of the West Bank last spring, worldwide anger against American policy reached the boiling point. The fury should surprise no one who reads foreign newspapers or listens to BBC. In several televised statements long before 9/11, Osama bin Laden, believed by U.S.authorities to have masterminded 9/11, cited U.S. complicity in Israel's destruction of Palestinian society as a principal complaint. Prominent foreigners, in and out of government, express their opposition to U.S. policies with unprecedented frequency and severity, especially since Bush announced his determination to make war against Iraq. The lobby's intimidation remains pervasive. It seems to reach every government center, and even houses of worship and revered institutions of higher learning. It is highly effective in silencing the many U.S. Jews who object to the lobby's tactics and Israel's brutality. Nothing can justify 9/11. Those guilty deserve maximum punishment, but it makes sense for America to examine motivations promptly and as carefully as possible. Terrorism almost always arises from deeply-felt grievances. If they can be eradicated or eased, terrorist passions are certain to subside. Today, a year after9/11, President Bush has made no attempt to redress grievances, or even to identify them. In fact, he has made the scene far worse by supporting Israel's religious war against Palestinians, an alliance that has intensified anti-American anger. He seems oblivious to the fact that nearly two billion people worldwide regard the plight of Palestinians as today's most important foreign-policy challenge. No one in authority will admit a calamitous reality that is skillfully shielded from the American people but clearly recognized by most of the world: America suffered 9/11 and its aftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because U.S. policy in the Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington. Israel is a scofflaw nation and should be treated as such. Instead of helping Sharon intensify Palestinian misery, our president should suspend all aid until Israel ends its occupation of Arab land Israel seized in 1967. The suspension would force Sharon's compliance or lead to his removal from office, as the Israeli electorate will not tolerate a prime minister who is at odds with the White House. If Bush needs an additional reason for doing the right thing, he can justify the suspension as a matter of military necessity, an essential step in winning international support for his war on terrorism. He can cite a worthy precedent. When President Abraham Lincoln issued the proclamation that freed only the slaves in states that were then in rebellion, he made the restriction because of "military necessity." If Bush suspends U.S. aid, he will liberate all Americans from long years of bondage to Israel's misdeeds.
About the author Paul Findley, a U.S.Congressional Representative from Illinois 1961-83, is the author of three books related to the Middle East, including They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby (1985) and, most recently, Silent No More: Confronting America's False Images of Islam. He resides in Jacksonville, Illinois. This essay was issued on Sept. 12, 2002. Institute for Historical Review http://www.ihr.org/ News Source: Institute for Historical Review America, England and Australia's best being cut down by israel because they find it hard to stand by while they cut down children.
http://www.time.com/time/europe/hero/caoimhebutterly.html
The24-year-old Dubliner was luckier than British peace activist Ton Hurndall who, in similar circumstances this month in Gaza, was shot in the head and now lies in acoma.
http://www.counterpunch.org/said06232003.html
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0123-07.htm
Strike Breaking
STRIKE BREAKING (AS REPORTED BY NYTAND OTHER AMERICAN PAPERS)THE JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT HIRSH GOODMAN -they have not received any terrorist training, nor are they members of a terrorist organization. Rather they are members of that Palestinian generation that grew up knowing nothing but occupation With anger, hatred, and sheer ferocity, thousands of youngsters hurled rocks at their Israeli occupiers, undaunted by the gunfire that greeted them. This was more than civil unrest....It was the beginning of a civil rebellion –
Dan Fisher, Los Angeles Times, December 20, 1987.
On that day, - wrote John Kifner in The New York Times, -the vast army ofArab laborers who wait on tables, pick vegetables, haul garbage, lay brick and perform virtually all Israel's menial work, stayed home.:
John Kifner, New York Times, December 22, 1987.The Israeli response to the uprising was brutal. Defense Minister Yitzhak Rabin ordered the use of tanks, armored vehicles and automatic rifles against an unarmed population.
The San Francisco Examiner cited Rabin as openly advocating assassination. "They can shoot to hit leaders of disorder," Rabin said in defense of the army's practice of using marksmen with high-powered.22-caliber rifles to shoot indiscriminately at Palestinian youth. –
San Francisco Examiner, December 23, 1987. Rabin ordered house-to-house searches, first for young men and later for anyone of whom an example might be made. By December 27, over 2,500 Palestinians were seized, many of them as young as twelve; by the end of January the number reached 4,000 and was rising. The "militants " were marked for deportation. Israeli high-security jails and detention centers were overflowing. Mass trials of Palestinians were underway. The act of brutality which most inflamed the Palestinian population was thearmy seizure of the wounded from hospital beds. This practice, standard procedure throughout the invasion of Lebanon in 1982, made Shifa Hospital in Gaza a center of resistance. Great crowds amassed to defend the wounded, whom, they rightfully feared, would never be seen again.
No fear ofJews standing up against cruelty and sadism as the Christians DID again and again.
The Testimony of a Rescuer http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/people/rescuer.htm
http://www.auschwitz.dk/docu/Default.htm
http://www.auschwitz.dk/Denmark.htm
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.py?people/r/roberts.jeff/1996/roberts.1096
http://www.resistance.com/Hayward/hay2.html
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.py?people/r/roberts.jeff/1996/roberts.1096
REMEMBER THIS IS AN UNARMED POPULATION UNDER OCCUPATION. –
http://www.mafhoum.com/press2/74P51.htm
Amother of a Palestinian man shot three times in the head by Israeli soldiers was asked if she would let her remaining sons join the demonstrations. " As long as I am alive, "she responded, "I am going to teach the young people to fight ... I don't care whatever happens, as longas we get our land." -
John Kifner, New York Times, December 21, 1987."They entered the house like animals, shouting," the 22-year old student at Bir Zeit University said." They took us from the house, kicking us in the head, beating us, all the soldiers with their rifle butts ."Two others, he said, beat his hands with lengths of two-by-fours, breaking the bones. The first priority is to use force, might, beatings. [This] is considered more effective than detention... [because] he may then resume stoning soldiers. But if troops break his hand, he won't be able to throw stones. -New York Times, January 21,1988.
AGAINST AN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION.No matter which house one calls, the anguished accounts of family members wounded or arrested pour forth. Convoys of buses cruise the streets of Nablus followed by vans of the Mossad, Israel's secret police. Army units go from house to house pulling youths from their beds at 3 a.m. As the buses fill, the soldiers beat the youths viciously around the head, shins, groin and back. Shrieks fill the air.
AGAINST AN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION.By April 1988 over 150Palestinians had died. The Israeli government hadadmitted to the arrest of2,000 people, bringing the acknowledged total to4,000. The real figure wasfar higher.Sources in the West Bank and Gaza established that the numberdetained bythe weekend of March 27 had exceeded 13,000. Bassam Shaka'a,deposed Mayor of Nablus, placed the total held solely in a hastily constructed barbed-wire encampment at Dhariyah at 10,000.
AGAINST AN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION.
In the Balata camp outside Nablus, and in the Casbah -the old quarter -l, 000 people were arrested in a period of 48 hours.
AGAINSTAN UNARMED CIVILIAN POPULATION.
THE DISCOVERY OF PEOPLE IN DITCHES IN THEFIELDS - SHOT IN THE BACK ORWITH THEIR HEADS CAVED IN - HAS BEEN REPORTEDFROM VILLAGES THROUGH OUT THEWEST BANK AND GAZA
TWO OF THE CHILDREN, AGES 9AND 11 , WERE TAKEN BY THE SOLDIERS IN THEIRnight clothes, frog-marched in the streets and beaten as they were forced by the jeering soldiers to clear debris.
NEW YORK TIMESFleets of helicopters fly over Nablus at night droppinga dense, green toxic gas over the city. The smell pervades every house. Armed units fire canisters of the substance into houses at random. Doctors at Ittihad Hospital reported several deaths and severe lung injuries from this as-yet unidentified asphyxiating chemical, totally distinct from teargas. Among the victims was the grandmother of the Da'as family andthe100-year-old father of noted Nablus attorney Mohammad Irshaid. Soldiers had entered the house at 2 a.m., smashing furniture and firing a canister of the dreaded green gas while preventing the family from leaving. Simultaneously, the Israeli army targeted the hospitals. Army trucks rammed ambulances and blocked them from reaching the homes of those overcome by the gas. Soldiers entered the Ittihad Hospital in Nablus numerous times, arresting the wounded and those waiting to give blood to family members.EVEN THE OPERATING THEATRE WAS INVADED WHILE SURGEONS WERE OPERATINGONPATIENTS.DOCTORS WERE BEATEN AND EQUIPMENT SMASHED. FAMILY MEMBERS WERE PREVENTEDFROM ENTERING THE HOSPITAL AND THE CARS OF DOCTORS AND NURSES WERE DESTROYEDBY SOLDIERS.
Meanwhile, all of Nablus was paralysed by a total strike. All the streets in every quarter of the city were without open shops or business activity. As gas permeated the city, cries and chants filled the night. Gas canisters recovered by Bassam Shaka'a, Yousef al-Masri [chief of Ittihad Hospital] and American author Alfred Lilienthal bear the markings"560 cs.Federal Lab. Saltsburg, Pa. USA MK2 1988." Biochemists are studying their properties as casualties mount.JOHN KIFNER reported on April 4 that"Hundreds of refugees were treated inUnited Nations clinics for gas inhalation." On April 15, Kifner wrote,"...gas has been thrown inside homes,clinics and schools where the effects are particularly severe.
"This is stillgoing on today, just cleverly concealed with active participation of western democracies governments, western democracies religious institions and western democracies media. Apparently only the ungodly unreligious students find their conscience so stirred that they have gone to the oppressed citizensaid with thefollowingresults.
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> FOSTER OFFERING THE SAME CRAP AS JUSTIFICATION SO JUST WHAT WAS
> ORIGINALLY SAID ANSWERS ALL HE CLAIMS
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Question: Who is responsible for all of these attacks?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks
Answer: Islamic fundamentalists
Question: Why?
Answer:
"You do not worship besides Him but only names which you have named �
you and your fathers � for which Allaah has sent down no authority. The
command is for none but Allaah. He has commanded that you worship none
but Him; that is the (true) straight religion, but most men know not"
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B J Foster
Harishchandra, Fire officer
"I feel God gave me this chance to do this good deed by saving so many
people. In that way, I am lucky that it was done through me".
Ragini, Railways employee
"My husband was a kind and honest person. He liked to help everyone and
he died trying to save a little girl. He could have taken cover and
stayed inside, but he chose to help passengers even when the firing was
going on".
Israeel, taxi driver
"Eleven of our family members were at the CST station and we lost six of
them. I was parking my taxi and before I could figure out what was
happening, the gunmen had done their job. Everything we had was wiped
out in no time".
Bablu, Railway announcer:
"A train had just arrived at the station and I knew that a big crowd
would get off. I immediately announced that everyone should use the rear
exit instead of the main exit. I also informed the other announcer as
the gunmen went towards the suburban area.
...
I was given 500 rupees ($10) and a certificate by my department for my
timely announcements".
Sanjay, Policeman
"I don't know how I survived but I do believe in God
Qasab [the sole surviving gunman, now on trial in India] was sitting
next to the driver. The other gunman fired as my colleague Tukaram
Ombale and I leapt towards Qasab. Qasab fired too and Ombale sustained
several bullet injuries. I too had a bullet injury, but we managed to
capture him alive. I knew that Qasab had to be kept alive. I was in
hospital for over a month, and later I went to court to identify Qasab.
...
I wish people from all religions would come together and stay united in
these difficult times".
Dr Sanjay, Bombay Hospital
"We were completely overwhelmed and were doing our best to save as many
as possible..."
Bhisham, media professional
"At this point, it's all about taking those small steps, the most
important of which is to keep the incident as real and immediate in my
mind. A lot of people died during these attacks and those fortunate to
survive have a responsibility towards them".
B J Foster
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>> Nope - more like a wake up call
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks
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