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Islam in America’s public schools: Education or indoctrination?
June 11, 2008, Stop the medrassa
With fatal terrorist attacks on the decline worldwide and al Qaeda
apparently in disarray, it would seem a time for optimism in the
global war on terrorism. But the war has simply shifted to a different
arena. Islamists, or those who believe that Islam is a political and
religious system that must dominate all others, are focusing less on
the military and more on the ideological. It turns out that Western
liberal democracies can be subverted without firing a shot.
Nowhere is this more evident than in the educational realm. Islamists
have taken what’s come to be known as the “soft jihad” into America’s
classrooms and children in K-12 are the first casualties. Whether it
is textbooks, curriculum, classroom exercises, film screenings,
speakers or teacher training, public education in America is under
assault.
Capitalizing on the post-9/11 demand for Arabic instruction, some
public, charter and voucher-funded private schools are inappropriately
using taxpayer dollars to implement a religious curriculum. They are
also bringing in outside speakers with Islamist ties or sympathies. As
a result, not only are children receiving a biased education, but
possible violations of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause
abound. Consider the following cases:
Nowhere is this more evident than in the educational realm. Islamists
have taken what’s come to be known as the “soft jihad” into America’s
classrooms and children in K-12 are the first casualties. Whether it
is textbooks, curriculum, classroom exercises, film screenings,
speakers or teacher training, public education in America is under
assault.
Capitalizing on the post-9/11 demand for Arabic instruction, some
public, charter and voucher-funded private schools are inappropriately
using taxpayer dollars to implement a religious curriculum. They are
also bringing in outside speakers with Islamist ties or sympathies. As
a result, not only are children receiving a biased education, but
possible violations of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause
abound. Consider the following cases:
Last month, students at Friendswood Junior High in Houston were
required to attend an “Islamic Awareness” presentation during class
time allotted for physical education.
The presentation involved two representatives from the Council on
American-Islamic Relations, an organization with a record of Islamist
statements and terrorism convictions. According to students, they were
taught that “there is one God, his name is Allah” and that “Adam, Noah
and Jesus are prophets.” Students were also taught about the Five
Pillars of Islam and how to pray five times a day and wear Islamic
religious garb. Parents were not notified about the presentation and
it wasn’t until a number of complaints arose that school officials
responded with an apologetic e-mail.
Earlier this year at Lake Brantley High School in Seminole County,
Fla., speakers from the Academy for Learning Islam gave a presentation
to students about “cultural diversity” that extended to a detailed
discussion of the Quran and Islam. The school neither screened the ALI
speakers nor notified parents. After a number of complaints, local
media coverage and a subsequent investigation, the school district
apologized for the inappropriate presentation, admitting that it
violated the law. Subsequently, ALI was removed from the Seminole
County school system’s Dividends and Speaker’s Bureau.
As reported by the Cabinet Press, a school project last year at
Amherst Middle School transformed “the quaint colonial town of
Amherst, N.H., into a Saudi Arabian Bedouin tent community.” Male and
female students were segregated, with the girls hosting “hijab and
veil stations” and handing out the oppressive head-to-toe black
garment known as the abaya to female guests.
Meanwhile, the boys hosted food and Arabic dancing stations because,
as explained in the article, “the traditions of Saudi Arabia at this
time prevent women from participating in these public roles.” An
“Islamic religion station” offered up a prayer rug, verses from the
Quran, prayer items and a compass pointed towards Mecca. The fact that
female subjugation was presented as a benign cultural practice and
Islamic religious rituals were promoted with public funds is cause for
concern.
Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy, a charter school in Inver Grove Heights,
Minn., came under recent scrutiny after Minneapolis Star-Tribune
columnist Katherine Kersten brought to light concerns about public
funding for its overtly religious curriculum.
The school is housed in the Muslim American Society’s (the American
branch of the Egyptian Islamist group the Muslim Brotherhood)
Minnesota building, alongside a mosque, and the daily routine includes
prayer, ritual washing, halal food preparation and an after-school
“Islamic studies” program.
Kersten’s columns prompted the Minnesota chapter of the American Civil
Liberties Union to issue a press release expressing its own
reservations about potential First Amendment violations. An
investigation initiated by the Minnesota Department of Education
verified several of Kersten’s allegations and the school has since
promised to make the appropriate changes. In a bizarre twist, when a
local television news crew tried to report on the findings from school
grounds, school officials confronted them and wrestled a camera away
from one of its photographers, injuring him in the process.
The controversy surrounding the founding of New York City’s Arabic
language public school, Khalil Gibran International Academy, last year
continues. Former principal Dhabah “Debbie” Almontaser was asked to
step down after publicly defending T-shirts produced by Arab Women
Active in the Arts and Media, an organization with whom she shared
office space, emblazoned with “Intifada NYC.” But KGIA has other
troublesome associations. Its advisory board includes three imams, one
of whom, New York University Imam Khalid Latif, sent a threatening
letter to the university’s president regarding a planned display of
the Danish cartoons.
Another, Shamsi Ali, runs the Jamaica Muslim Center Quranic
Memorization School in Queens, a replica of the type of Pakistani
madrassa (or school) counter-terrorism officials have been warning
about since 9/11. Accordingly, several parents founded Stop the
Madrassa: A Community Coalition to voice their contention that KGIA is
an inappropriate candidate for taxpayer funding.
Equally problematic are the textbooks used in American public schools
to teach Islam or Islamic history. Organizations such as Southern
California’s Council on Islamic Education and Arabic World and Islamic
Resources are tasked with screening and editing these textbooks for
public school districts, but questions have been raised about the
groups’ scholarship and ideological agenda.
The American Textbook Council, an organization that reviews history
and social studies textbooks used in American schools, and its
director, Gilbert T. Sewall, have produced a series of articles and
reports on Islam textbooks and the findings are damning.
They include textbooks that are factually inaccurate, misrepresent and
in some cases, glorify Islam, or are hostile to other religions. While
teaching students about Islam within a religious studies context may
be appropriate, the purpose becomes suspect when the texts involved
are compromised in this manner.
Such are the complaints about “History Alive! The Medieval World and
Beyond,” a textbook published by the Teachers’ Curriculum Institute,
to the point where parents in the Scottsdale, Ariz., school district
succeeded in having it removed from the curriculum in 2005.
TCI is based in Mountain View, and the textbook is now being used in
the state’s public schools, where similar concerns have arisen. A
Marin County mother whose son has been assigned “History Alive!” has
been trying to mount an effort to call school officials’ attention to
the problem.
Similarly, a San Luis Obispo mother filed an official complaint
several years ago with her son’s school authorities over the use of
Houghton Mifflin’s middle school text, “Across the Centuries,” which
has been widely criticized for whitewashing Islamic history and
glorifying Islam. Its inclusion in the Montgomery County, Md. public
school curriculum among other districts across the country, could lead
to further objections.
But the forces in opposition are powerful and plenty. They include
public education bureaucrats and teachers mired in naivete and
political correctness, biased textbook publishers, politicized
professors and other experts tasked with helping states approve
textbooks, and at the top of the heap, billions of dollars in Saudi
funding. These funds are pouring into the coffers of various organs
that design K-12 curricula.
The resultant material, not coincidentally, turns out to be
inaccurate, biased and, considering the Wahhabist strain of Islam
promulgated by Saudi Arabia, dangerous. And again, taxpayer dollars
are involved. National Review Online contributing editor Stanley Kurtz
explains :
“The United States government gives money — and a federal seal of
approval — to a university Middle East Studies center. That center
offers a government-approved K-12 Middle East studies curriculum to
America’s teachers. But in fact, that curriculum has been bought and
paid for by the Saudis, who may even have trained the personnel who
operate the university’s outreach program.
Meanwhile, the American government is asleep at the wheel — paying
scant attention to how its federally mandated public outreach programs
actually work. So without ever realizing it, America’s taxpayers end
up subsidizing — and providing official federal approval for — K-12
educational materials on the Middle East that have been created under
Saudi auspices. Game, set, match: Saudis.”
Along with funding textbooks and curricula, the Saudis are also
involved in funding and designing training for public school teachers.
The Saudi funded Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian
Understanding at Georgetown University now offers professional
development workshops for K-12 teachers. The workshops take place at
the hosting institution and provide teachers with classroom material.
They are free of charge and ACMCU throws in lunch to boot.
But this generosity likely comes with a catch, for the center is known
for producing scholars and material with a decidedly apologist bent,
both toward the Saudi Royal Family and Islamic radicalism. It’s no
accident that ACMCU education consultant Susan Douglass, according to
her bio, has been “an affiliated scholar” with the Council on Islamic
Education “for over a decade.” Douglass also taught social studies at
the Islamic Saudi Academy in Fairfax, Va., where her husband still
teaches.
ISA has come under investigation for Saudi-provided textbooks and
curriculum that some have alleged promotes hatred and intolerance
towards non-Muslims. That someone with Douglass’ problematic
associations would be in charge of training public school teachers
hardly inspires confidence in the system.
While groups such as People for the American Way, Americans United for
Separation of Church and State, and the ACLU express outrage at any
semblance of Christianity in America’s public schools, very little
clamor has met the emergence of Islam in the same arena.
An occasional press release, such as the one put out by the Minnesota
chapter of the ACLU regarding TIZA, will surface, but by and large,
the arbiters of separation of church and state or in this case, mosque
and state, have gone silent. The same can largely be said for the
federal government and, in particular, the State Department. No doubt,
Saudi dollars and influence are part of the problem.
Probably the single greatest weapon in the arsenal of those trying to
fight the misuse of America’s public schools is community involvement.
As noted previously, a number of parental coalitions have sprung up
across the country in an effort to protect their own children from
indoctrination.
The Stop the Madrassa Coalition has expanded its efforts beyond New
York City by working on policy ideas for legislation and meeting
privately with members of Congress. Also providing hope are Rep. Sue
Myrick (R-N.C.), whose 10-point “Wake Up America” agenda includes a
call to reform Saudi-provided textbooks, and the bipartisan
Congressional Anti-Terrorism Caucus she co-chairs. Its focus on
“jihadist ideology” demonstrates an all-too-rare governmental
understanding of the nature of the current conflict.
The power to educate the next generation is an inestimable one and a
free society cedes control at its peril. The days of the “silent
majority” are no longer tenable in the face of a determined and clever
enemy. The battle of ideas must be joined.
repo
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Islam is taught in Public Schools, they are taught that
there is one God, his name is Allah” and that “Adam, Noah
and Jesus are prophets.
This must be reversed asap.
lorad
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> June 11, 2008, Stop the medrassa
If madrassas constituted a threat to America, the government would
have shut them down long ago.
Instead of posting stupid crap, start concentrating on real
problems... like stopping illegal persons (perhaps many terrorists)
from coming over the US's borders at a rate of about 10 million a
year.
That *there* is a real security problem.
repo
Minnesota madrassa officials attack news crew
Tarik ibn Zayad Academy Update. "News crew attacked during report at
TiZA charter school," by Nicole Muehlhausen for KSTP, May 19 (thanks
to Itachi):
The state Education Department on Monday directed a Minnesota charter
school to "correct" two areas related to religion at the school.
Tarik ibn Zayad Academy, which focuses on Middle Eastern culture and
shares a mosque with the Muslim American Society of Minnesota, came
under fire after a teacher alleged that the school was offering
religious instruction in Islam to its students.
"The Minnesota Department of Education goes to great lengths to make
clear to charter schools and their sponsors that, while schools should
appropriately accomodate students' religious beliefs, they must be
'nonsectarian' under the state's charter school law," said the state's
education Deputy Commissioner Chas Anderson.
The allegations first surfaced after an article by a columnist for the
Star Tribune. The Education Department subsequently began a review of
the suburban Inver Grove Heights school and released its findings
Monday.
The agency said it was concerned about the school, with about 300
students, accommodating communal prayer and providing transportation
to an after-school religious program.
"We have directed the school to take appropriate corrective actions
regarding these matters and will continue to provide oversight to
ensure that the school is in compliance with state and federal law,"
Anderson said.
In an attempt to report about the new findings from the Department of
Education, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS went to TiZA. While on school grounds,
our crew was attacked by school officials. The two men were able to
grab our camera and kept it until police arrived.
Our photographer was treated by paramedics after suffering minor
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It wasn't illegal aliens that attacked the WTC....twice.
stat...@lycos.com
It is, "there" and here.
American citizens living in the USA convicted of conspiring to aid
al- Qaeda or the Taliban or related charges:
Lackawanna, N.Y., 2003: Six American-born Yemeni-Americans.
Columbus, Ohio, 2003: One naturalized citizen born in Kashmir.
Portland, Ore., 2003: Three naturalized American citizens born in
Saudi Arabia and Palestine. Three American-born converts to Islam.
New York City, 2004: One naturalized American born in Pakistan.
Seattle, 2004: One American-born convert to Islam.
Arlington, Va., 2005: One American-born Muslim, three naturalized
American citizens born in South Korea, Pakistan and Eritrea, and four
American-born Muslim converts.
New York City, 2006-07: One naturalized citizen born in Morocco and
two American-born Muslim converts.
*us*
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stat...@lycos.com
> Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
But Muslim rats like yourself to Gitmo.
br...@pobox.com
No. He should be hanged for what truly is treason. Our elected
officials are answerable ONLY to the people of this country and NOT to
some foreign court. That is a basic requirement for sovereignty.
stat...@lycos.com
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:24:28 -0700 (PDT), state...@lycos.com wrote:
> >On Sep 11, 12:12 am, * US * wrote:
> >> Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>
> >But Muslim rats like yourself to Gitmo.
>
> No. He should be hanged for what truly is treason. Our elected
> officials are answerable ONLY to the people of this country and NOT to
> some foreign court. That is a basic requirement for sovereignty.
Bingo!
*us*
They're war criminals, by definition.
br...@pobox.com
>Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>
>They're war criminals, by definition.
Only in your warped mind, treasonous scum.
There are thirteen streps and a string waiting for you.
*us*
They're war criminals, by definition.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
No one ever will.
The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
br...@pobox.com
>Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>
>They're war criminals, by definition.
>
>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>
>>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
>
>Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
And what are YOU going to do about it, loudmouthed little cretin?
Froth at the mouth some more?
>
>No one ever will.
>
>The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
You are hardly part of the "rational, civilized" world, loony left
wing parasite.
The tragedy of balding men with long hair
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I'm opposed to any religion being taught in public schools and against
tax payer dollars used to finance faith based programs. Clinton
started that garbage and Bush accelerated it.
As for you opinion about terrorism, intelligence agencies believe that
al Qaeda is stronger than ever and global terrorism is growing. Stop
shoveling that manure because no one but the simple believe it.
*us*
They're war criminals, by definition.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
No one ever will.
The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:24 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... little cretin
>Froth at the mouth ...
Nobody had asked about you.
Future generations will wonder why you couldn't think, though.
stat...@lycos.com
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:50:07 -0700 (PDT), moron state...@lycos.com
wrote:
>...a moron...
>...this paranoid idiot blithing [sic] ...
**No one had asked for you. No one ever does.
**No one ever will.
Speak for yourself , demented cretin . No one elected you to speak for
anyone.
**The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
But you are not a part of "rational , civilized world" , idiot. Your
world is in a cave with demented Muslim barbarians who you admire.
Who told you that you are rational and civilized?
*us*
They're war criminals, by definition.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
No one ever will.
The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:24 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... little cretin
>Froth at the mouth ...
Nobody had asked about you.
Future generations will wonder why you couldn't think, though.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:09:45 -0700 (PDT), stat...@lycos.com wrote:
>... not a part of "rational , civilized world"
Of course you're not: you're bushfilth.
br...@pobox.com
>Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>
>They're war criminals, by definition.
Your lack of a supporting link is noted, delsusional one.
>
>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>
>>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
>
>Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
On the contrary, maggot. People asked for me. They came and asked me
to serve, and I did so.
>
>No one ever will.
Please don't presume to judge your betters by your own limitations,
parasite.
>
>The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
You are hardly rational or civilized. You are simply ranting vermin.
>
>On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:24 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>
>>... little cretin
>>Froth at the mouth ...
>
>Nobody had asked about you.
>
>Future generations will wonder why you couldn't think, though.
Sonny, my edication, intelligence, and deeds are part of the
historical record where I served. Can you say the same?
I didn't think so.
*us*
They're war criminals, by definition.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
No one ever will.
The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:24 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... little cretin
>Froth at the mouth ...
Nobody had asked about you.
Future generations will wonder why you couldn't think, though.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:36:38 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... delsusional [sic] ...
You're also unable to type in English, probably
because you hate America so much.
>parasite.
You want everyone else to pay for your bloodlust,
don't you, bushfilth.
>...hardly rational or civilized.... simply ranting vermin.
Of course you are, bushfilth, and the world knows it.
>... my edication [sic] ...
It's lacking, severely.
>I didn't think ...
You probably can't.
br...@pobox.com
>Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>
>They're war criminals, by definition.
>
>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>
>>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
>
>Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
>
>No one ever will.
>
>The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
>
>On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:24 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>
>>... little cretin
>>Froth at the mouth ...
>
>Nobody had asked about you.
>
>Future generations will wonder why you couldn't think, though.
>
>On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:36:38 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>
>>... delsusional [sic] ...
>
>You're also unable to type in English, probably
>because you hate America so much.
No. Sometimes my knuckles are stiff -- no doubt a result of knocking
the teeth out of loudmouthed, worthless scum like you whenever the
opportunity presented itself.
>
>>parasite.
>
>You want everyone else to pay for your bloodlust,
>don't you, bushfilth.
>
>>...hardly rational or civilized.... simply ranting vermin.
>
>Of course you are, bushfilth, and the world knows it.
>
>>... my edication [sic] ...
>
>It's lacking, severely.
>
>>I didn't think ...
>
>You probably can't.
I see that you can't make an honest response, maggot. How about if you
do the world a favor and go dive under a train. Put yourself out of
the world's misery.
*us*
They're war criminals, by definition.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... warped mind, treasonous scum ...
Nobody had asked for you, bushfilth.
No one ever will.
The rational, civilized world has rightfully rejected you.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:24 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... little cretin
>Froth at the mouth ...
Nobody had asked about you.
Future generations will wonder why you couldn't think, though.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:36:38 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... delsusional [sic] ...
You're also unable to type in English, probably
because you hate America so much.
>parasite.
You want everyone else to pay for your bloodlust,
don't you, bushfilth.
>...hardly rational or civilized.... simply ranting vermin.
Of course you are, bushfilth, and the world knows it.
>... my edication [sic] ...
It's lacking, severely.
>I didn't think ...
You probably can't.
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:29:07 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
>... knocking
>the teeth out of
You're jealous of those who have teeth,
and too stupid to be nonviolent.
You support torturing and murdering
children and babies, bushfilth.
>loudmouthed, worthless scum like ...
You like pretending you could harm me
for my freedom of expression, you poor
anti-American parasitic sociopathic idiot.
>... can't make an honest response...
Of course you can't: you're lying bushfilth.
Comm
*us*
No one ever will.
>... delsusional [sic] ...
>parasite.
It's lacking, severely.
You probably can't.
The bushfilth also laughs when US troops
are betrayed to death by Bush's lies.
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>> On Sep 10, 3:46 pm, repo <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> June 11, 2008, Stop the medrassa
Are you Jewish? Do we let you have Yeshivas and religious schools here
in the US?
--
EMAC
*us*
>repo wrote:
>> Islam in America’s public schools ...
>
>Are you Jewish? Do we let you have Yeshivas and religious schools here
>in the US?
Excellent point.
repo
The post is about "Public Schools"
>
> Excellent point.
Your response is expected coming from
a radical Muslim
*us*
>repo wrote:
>> Islam in America’s public schools ...
>
>Are you Jewish? Do we let you have Yeshivas and religious schools here
>in the US?
Excellent point.
We definitely have Yeshivas and religious schools here in the US.
repo
The post is referring to Public Schools, but you
knew that, eh
Oh silly me, you're a radical Muslim, you're expected
to lie, terrorize, ect.
*us*
>repo wrote:
>> Islam in America’s public schools ...
>
>Are you Jewish? Do we let you have Yeshivas and religious schools here
>in the US?
Excellent point.
We definitely have Yeshivas and religious schools here in the US.
Education should certainly involve the discussion of comparative religion, too.
*us*
>... expected
>to lie, terrorize, ect. [sic]
Of course you are, bushfilth.
You're not, however, expected to learn.
e1313
LOL, not at all! Episcopalian, you fruitcake.
Why are you ashamed to tell us your religion?
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EMAC
*us*
>repo wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 10:06 am, * US * wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:08:36 -0400, e1313 <e1...@oddalliances.org> wrote:
>>>> repo wrote:
>>>>> Islam in America’s public schools ...
>>>> Are you Jewish? Do we let you have Yeshivas and religious schools here
>>>> in the US?
>>> Excellent point.
>>>
>>> We definitely have Yeshivas and religious schools here in the US.
>>
>> The post is referring to Public Schools, but you
>> knew that, eh
>>
>> Oh silly me, you're a radical Muslim, you're expected
>> to lie, terrorize, ect.
>
>LOL, not at all! Episcopalian, you fruitcake.
>Why are you ashamed to tell us your religion?
Indeed.
He imagines that Methodists, Quakers, Episcopalians,
and Jews would somehow be 'a Muslim', too.
*us*
don't fall for Bush's lies.
Comm
<* US *> wrote in message news:fkicd41e6lh7dr7fm...@4ax.com...
> Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>
> They're war criminals, by definition.
Yes, they are war criminals. The Democrats got elected big time into
Congress to stop the war, to do something about Bush. They did nothing.
And? And? Google Bugliosi and what he had to say about trying the bastards
for murder in a regular court. YES. Someone should do it. Will someone do
it? Don't hold your breath.
The Hague? They should be given a trial like the one Saddam was given - a
MOCK trial.
>
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:33:33 GMT, br...@pobox.com wrote:
OH, haha, him again? That bloke can't decide if I'm a klukker right wing
scum, socialist left wing scum (the opposite!) or whatever. LMAO. Ahem.
And what the hell is it with some of these people and the "you want to
surrender" shit? SURRENDER? HA - if good old Communist China doesn't loan
us the $$$$ to continue to act like toy soldiers, there won't be any fight
left to fight. Surrender? Whoever has that mindset must, MUST, have a very
very small penis.
Here below is my final statement on humans and the stupid fucking shit too
many of them tend to do:
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They're war criminals, by definition.
No one ever will.
>... delsusional [sic] ...
>parasite.
It's lacking, severely.
You probably can't.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:18:23 -0400, "Comm" <N...@spam.com> wrote:
>... a
>MOCK trial.
No need to descend to the neocon level.
br...@pobox.com
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><* US *> wrote in message news:fkicd41e6lh7dr7fm...@4ax.com...
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>> Bush and Cheney should be sent to the Hague.
>>
>> They're war criminals, by definition.
>
>Yes, they are war criminals. The Democrats got elected big time into
>Congress to stop the war, to do something about Bush. They did nothing.
>And? And? Google Bugliosi and what he had to say about trying the bastards
>for murder in a regular court. YES. Someone should do it. Will someone do
>it? Don't hold your breath.
>
>The Hague? They should be given a trial like the one Saddam was given - a
>MOCK trial.
It's always interesting to watch one of you left wing vermin admit to
the fact that you are traitors.
Not much wrong with you that a short rope and a tall scaffold wouldn't
cure.