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In September, federal prosecutors charged illegal alien Mahmoud
Maawad, 29, with wire fraud and fraudulent use of a Social Security
number. But their real worry was that the Egyptian student had just
ordered $3,000 in aviation materials, including DVDs entitled “Ups and
Downs of Takeoffs and Landings,” “Mental Math for Pilots,” and
“Mastering GPS Flying.”

Shortly after the London bombings, U.S. antiterrorism authorities
arrested five Egyptian men—four of them illegal immigrants—in a
Newark, New Jersey, apartment, which contained maps of the New York
City subway system, train schedules, videos of city landmarks, and
$8,000 in twenties and fifties.

A few weeks earlier, in the sleepy town of Lodi, California, about two
hours north of where I live, the FBI arrested Umer and Hamid Hayat
(father and son) on immigration charges and for lying to federal
agents about ties with Islamic terrorist groups in Pakistan.
Officials allege that Hamid visited an al-Qaida camp in Pakistan
during 2003 and 2004 for training in weapons, explosives, and hand-to-
hand combat.

Last autumn, authorities broke up a terrorist cell in Portland,
Oregon, charging four with plotting to set up a terrorist training
organization and with traveling to Afghanistan to aid al-Qaida and the
Taliban.
Since September 11, the list of those arrested, and in a growing
number of cases convicted, for Islamist terrorist activities in the
U.S. has gotten longer and longer.

Some arrestees have been U.S. citizens; more have been aliens, legal
and illegal, living in out-of-the-way places on work or study visas.
The list includes such abettors of evil as Mukhtar al-Bakri of
Lackawanna, New York (ten years for providing support to al-Qaida),
Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed of Brooklyn (45 years for providing
support to al-Qaida and Hamas), and Ibrahim Admed Al-Hamdi of northern
Virginia (15 years for firearm violations in connection with terrorist
activities).

The continued presence within our borders of so many who seek to
destroy us suggests that we still haven’t squarely faced the problem
that Islamic radicalism poses to our domestic security.

In fact, sometimes we have seemed to encourage actively the spread of
such radicalism on our shores.
On Halloween night 2001—just weeks after September 11 and with U.S.
troops fighting in Afghanistan—firebrand imams Abdul Alim Musa,
Muhammad Asi, Abdel Razzag Al Raggad, and other Islamic radicals
broadcast live from the National Press Club on C-SPAN2 a bold
proclamation of empathy for the Taliban, hatred for Jews, and
understanding for the murderers of 3,000 Americans.

Asi, for example, spoke of the “grand strike against New York and
Washington” and the “twin evils in this world . . . the decision
makers in Washington and the decision makers in Tel Aviv.” Not only
did we allow such a broadcast to tens of thousands—our government
subsidized it.

Or consider the ease with which the now-deported Muhammed Adil Khan, a
radical Islamic cleric associated with the two Lodi suspects, first
arrived in America in the eighties, welcomed on a “religious worker”
visa.
Another Lodi extremist, Shabbir Ahmed, entered more recently on such a
visa—despite having led demonstrations in Pakistan shortly after
September 11 that called for jihad against America.

At his immigration hearing, Ahmed successfully pleaded that his past
anti-American agitation “was a requirement of all imams. If you don’t
[agitate], people turn against you. They sort of force you to say
something.”
That America has given Islamists such freedom has doubtless made it
easier for them to seduce U.S. citizens to join jihadist groups and
seek to kill their countrymen.
We remember most vividly John Walker Lindh, who ventured from Marin
County to fight with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

But even more sinister was former Chicago gangbanger José Padilla, who
in 1991 converted to Islam, changed his name to Abdullah al-Muhajir,
and went off to Egypt. By 2002, he had made his way to Afghanistan and
Pakistan to fight at al-Qaida’s side. In early May 2002, just after
his return from Pakistan, officials arrested him in Chicago for
allegedly plotting to explode a dirty bomb in Washington, D.C.

In these cases, we have yet to discover who the spiritual mentors of
these homegrown jihadists were, or where in the U.S. they were
indoctrinated.

The Islamist seduction also includes disturbed souls here in the U.S.
who belong to no formal terrorist group but who emulate jihadists
after exposure to their ideas.

Such was the suicidal 15-year-old who in January 2002 crashed a light
plane into a Florida bank, leaving behind a note praising bin Ladin:
“First of all, Osama bin Laden is absolutely justified in the terror
he has caused on 9/11.
He has brought a mighty nation to its knees. God bless him and the
others who helped make September 11th happen.”

Another example may be green-card-holding Eshem Mohamed Hadayet, the
Egyptian gunman who three years ago shot up the El Al counter at Los
Angeles International Airport, killing two innocents and wounding
three. Jihadist literature certainly influenced beltway sniper John
Allen Muhammad.

Some say, reassuringly, that Islamic extremism has little appeal to
America’s growing Muslim population.
America prides itself on being unlike Europe in its powers of
assimilation. Thanks to the melting pot and a vigorous economy, this
argument goes, we have no Marseilles-like Muslim ghettos or Rotterdam-
style “dish cities,” blighted Islamic suburbs where assimilation
remains rare and terrorist sympathies widespread even after
generations of living in the West.

We certainly don’t have the difficulties in assimilating Muslims that
England experiences. A chilling Daily Telegraph poll, for example,
found that one in four British Muslims sympathized with the motives of
July’s subway killers, about one in five voiced little loyalty toward
Britain, and a third felt that Western culture was “decadent” and that
they should help “to bring it to an end.”

Yet U.S. self-congratulation is premature. Before we condemn Britain
as hopelessly retrograde, we need to recognize that we have no idea
how much some American Muslims support jihadist causes—comprehensive
polls don’t exist.

Of the few surveys taken, the results aren’t encouraging. The Hamilton
College Muslim America poll of April 2003 revealed that 44 percent of
U.S. Muslims had no opinion on whether Usama bin Ladin was involved
with the September 11 attacks. Only one out of three blamed al-Qaida.

Top U.S. Muslim organizations and spokesmen are no more reassuring
when it comes to condemning Islamic terror. True, the Council on
American Islamic Relations finally took out a national advertisement
this summer repudiating terrorism in the name of Islam—four years
after September 11.

But examine the immediate reaction to the ad from San Antonio Express-
News columnist Mansour El-Kikhia.
“It is a rejection of U.S. and British policies in the Middle East,
not Islam, that has promoted terrorism against America,” El-Kikhia
writes. “More important, it was the British and the United States that
drew first blood. The Middle East didn’t come to America or go to
America or go to Britain; rather, America and Britain went to the
Middle East.” El-Kikhia ends his rant by implying that the United
States has a history of warring on imaginary threats, so American
Muslims should feel no imperative to distinguish themselves from those
terrorizing in Islam’s name.

If we really are in a war against Muslim terror, our enemies and those
who support or appease them pose a quandary on the home front unlike
anything we have faced in past struggles.
First, unlike in previous wars, securing the homeland is absolutely
central to the outcome of this conflict. In the war’s overseas fronts
in Afghanistan and Iraq, no enemy possesses the conventional or other
means to defeat the U.S. militarily.

The only way America could lose abroad would be if it loses the will
to fight—and that could only happen through a succession of terrorist
attacks at home that petrified the citizenry, warped our political
institutions, or disrupted the economy to such an extent that, Madrid-
style, we granted concessions to radical Islamists.
Terrorism is not the last desperate resort of this enemy; it is its
first, deliberate attack.
Second, technology has made it easier for small numbers of individuals—
even a single person—to inflict substantial damage on America’s social
and economic fabric.

Third, in an age of instantaneous communications and global travel,
two oceans provide America with precious little security against such
weapons.

Today, hundreds of jihadists from a Pakistan or a Yemen could fly to
Lodi or Portland in less than 24 hours and communicate in real time
with whomever they wish worldwide.
Without prior intelligence and infiltration of Islamist mosques and
madrassas, it thus becomes very difficult to ensure our safety at the
last line of defense:
From a national security standpoint, the prevention of another
September 11 thus seems straightforward—in theory.

Suspend most legal immigration from Middle Eastern countries known to
subsidize or tolerate terrorism.
Review all current visas and search out and deport violators. Continue
to audit carefully the arrivals of Middle Eastern nationals.

European and American experiences both suggest that we can toughen our
domestic security without violating constitutional custom.

Four years after September 11, with the nature of our dilemma clearly
before us, why do we still have terrorists operating freely in our
midst? Why do we seem paralyzed over the proper course of action to
prevent attacks from within?

Part of the problem is the legacy of our domestic history during
wartime. Because most Americans view the U.S. internment of the
Japanese during World War II as gratuitously punitive, unnecessary,
and illegal, any proposal to monitor particular American subgroups
today calls down swift denunciation as the moral equivalent of that
internment.

Moreover, though the McCarthy period was not, properly speaking, a
witch hunt—no witches haunted Salem, but plenty of communists
sympathetic to the Soviet Union moved in and out of the U.S.
government during the fifties—it matters little.

The abuses by anti-communist watchdogs have become enshrined in our
collective memory as something we must never repeat. It is now a
staple of our history books that the House Un-American Activities
Committee was almost more pernicious than 7,000 Soviet nuclear
missiles pointed at the U.S. Consequently, we have since believed it
better to err on the side of civil liberties than on the side of
national security, should the two conflict—at least until September
11.

Our elite commitment to multiculturalism also hamstrings us from
taking the needed security steps. For 30 years, our schools have
pounded home the creed that all cultures are of equal merit—or, more
accurately perhaps, that no culture is worse than the West’s.

Millions of Americans consequently aren’t sure whether radical Islam
is just another legitimate alternative to the dominant Western
narrative. Typical of this mind-set, UCLA English professor Saree
Makdisi, excusing the London subway terrorism, wrote in the Los
Angeles Times that deliberately butchering commuters is no worse than
accidentally killing civilians while targeting terrorists in a war
zone.

If we are not sure as a nation that Islamists really are foes of
Western values but instead see them as another persecuted group with
legitimate gripes against us (occupied Palestine, Iraq and
Afghanistan, Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo Bay, colonialism, the Crusades),
then it becomes increasingly hard to identify, let alone fight, the
practitioners of Islamic fanaticism at home.

Even the military bureaucracy seems to be having trouble naming the
enemy: witness the rebranding by some Pentagon officials of “the war
on terrorism” into the “global war against violent extremism.” While
the original nomenclature was unsatisfactory—wars aren’t fought
against a tactic but rather against those using it—the new name is
even less helpful.

Practical considerations also get in the way of securing the homeland.
Any radical change in our immigration laws—affecting entry into the
U.S., systematic deportation of illegal aliens, or scrutiny of visa
holders—requires comprehensive reform. And such transformation
immediately raises the question of what to do with the 10 to 15
million illegal Mexican aliens residing here and with our vast,
unsecured southern border. So far, sensitivity to Hispanic concerns,
both here and in Mexico, coupled with employer lobbying, has precluded
securing the border and insisting on legality for all new immigrants.
Deporting illegal aliens from the Middle East will immediately lead to
questions as to why we are not deporting millions of unlawful Mexican
residents—a political hot potato.
Yet immigration control—as the Dutch and French have learned—may be
the most powerful tool in the war against the jihadists. Not only does
it help keep terrorists out, it also carries symbolic weight.

In the Middle East, America is worshipped even as it is hated—
constantly slurred even as it proves the Number One destination for
thousands upon thousands of would-be immigrants from the Islamic
world.
Once we have deported the Islamists, and Middle Easterners and other
Muslims find it much harder to enter the U.S. because of their
governments’ tolerance for radical anti-Americanism, the message will
resound all the more loudly in the Muslim world itself that terrorism
is intolerable.

Such toughness opposes the current orthodoxy, which holds that
curtailing immigration from the Arab and Muslim world will cost us a
key opportunity to inculcate moderates and eventually send back
emissaries of goodwill.

Maybe; but so far, the profile of the Islamic terrorist is someone who
has paid back our magnanimity with deadly contempt. Just as bin Ladin,
Dr. Zawahiri, and the Pakistanis suspected of bombing the London
subways were not poor, uneducated, or unfamiliar with the West, so too
we find that those arrested for terrorist activities on our shores
seem to hate us all the more because of our liberality.

Prince Andy

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"repo" <kcaj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Of course there would not be muslim terror if israel cleaned up it's act,

Just remember who we are dealing with

Must be jewish, the only thing he ever has to say is any criticism or sneer
he can find against anyone as is usually practised byjews/zionists/israelis
as their religion proscribes, sneer at all who are not jews as they are they
are to be looked down on , cheated and mislead as often as necessary.
A religion by it's corrupted holy book the Talmud, which rants aginst
christians and any other non jew against all the old testament guidance
which they have discarded for this criminal orientated book that was
critocized br Christ.


> The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions
> Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written
> down in Jesus time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah
> (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees),
> because it nullified Biblical teachings.
>
> THE FAMOUS WARNING OF OUR LORD ABOUT THE TRADITION THAT VOIDS
> SCRIPTURE (CF. MARK 7:13), WHICH IS REGULARLY USED AGAINST
> CATHOLICISM BY PROTESTANTS, IS ACTUALLY A DIRECT REFERENCE TO
> THE TALMUD OR MORE PROPERLY, THE FORERUNNER OF THE FIRST PART
> OF IT, THE MISHNAH, WHICH EXISTED IN ORAL FORM DURING CHRIST*S
> LIFETIME, BEFORE BEING COMMITTED TO WRITING. ALL OF MARK CHAPTER 7,
> FROM VERSE ONE THROUGH THIRTEEN, REPRESENTS OUR LORD*S POINTED
> CONDEMNATION OF THE MISHNAH.
>
> Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread
> Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of
> Judaism.
> But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments
> of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their
> supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed,
> as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As a reader
> of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version) I know
> this to be true.
>
> There is a small Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew
> Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites,
> a most hated and severely persecuted group within Judaism.


> Some Teachings of the Talmud Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the
> rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot
> excrement in hell.
>
> Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
> city where he is not known and do the evil there.
>
> Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
> ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head,
> "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are
> designated animals ("she-asses").
>
> Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the
> Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
>
> O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile
> ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
>
> Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite
> gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a
> Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
>
> Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object
> lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
> (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
>
> Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
> an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
> to a Cuthean..."
>
> Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
> Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals
> from a Gentile he may keep.
>
> Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God
> has "exposed their money to Israel."
>
> Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies
> ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
>
> Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children
> are animals.
>
> Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
> birth.
>
> Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
>
> Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a
> worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"

> Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover,
> Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense
> could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
>
> Attacks Christians and their Books Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians
> ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be
> punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition
> of minim).
>
> Sanhedrin 90a . Those who read the New Testament (uncanonical books,
> see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.
>
> Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians,
> i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6.
>
> Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament
> books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History,
> Jewish Religion, p. 21).

ISRAEL SHAHAK REPORTS THAT THE ZIONISTS BURNED HUNDREDS OF NEW TESTAMENT
BOOKS IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE ON MARCH 23, 1980 (CF. JEWISH HISTORY, JEWISH
RELIGION, P. 21).

>
> Sick and Insane Teachings Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should
> take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with
> honey and eat it.
>
> Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy
> way is given.
>
> Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
> animals in the Garden of Eden.
>
> Yebamoth 63a . Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
>
> Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
> three years "and a day" old).
>
> Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
> is less than nine years old.
>
> Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
> girl it is nothing."
>
> Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible
> to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
> eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
>
> Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that
> Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
>
> Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
>
> Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits
> the rabbi won the debate.
>
> Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor
> toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited
> long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is
> with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
>
> Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were
> exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindlers List where the Hollywood director
> shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and
> falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two
> other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper
> that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must
> find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic
> images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic
> liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well.

> Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust Here are two early "Holocaust" tales
> from the Talmud: Gittin 57b . Claims that four billion Jews were killed by
> the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish
> children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive
>
> by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not
> 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million
> Jewish children or four billion Jews).
>
> A Revealing Admission Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked
> of the rabbi whether some wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used
> or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been
> Gentiles (a Gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean).
> The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish
> use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place
> where the wine was stolen, are Jews
>
> Pharisaic Rituals Erubin 21b (p. 150). "Rabbi Akiba said to him,
> "Give me some water to wash my hands." "It will not suffice for
> drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your
> hands?" "What can I do? the former replied, "when for neglecting
> the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I
> myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of
> my colleagues."[This is the ritual hand washing condemned by
> Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
>

> "Great Rabbi" Deceives A Woman Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates).
> Teaches that God approves of rabbis who lie: "The elders were once
> sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his
> head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his
> head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua
> remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during
> a womans menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a
> bastard and a son of a niddah. "They said, "What induced you
> to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?" He replied, "I will
> prove it concerning him." He went to the lads mother and found
> her sitting in the market selling beans. "He said to her, "My
> daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you,
> I will bring you to the world to come." (eternal life). She said
> to him, "Swear it to me."
> Rabbi Akiba, "taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
> heart," said to her, "What is the status of your son?" She replied,
> "When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating)
> and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had
> intercourse with me and this son was born to me." Consequently
> the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah. It was declared,
> "..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi
> Akiba..."
>


> This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The
> Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
> reading has been altered, The best among the Egyptians being generally
> substituted."
> In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates,
> Soferim 41a-b]. Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage
> to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the
> extermination of non-Jews.("Jewish Press" of June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
>
> On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an
> orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including
> children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple
> of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view of Arabs as "dogs"
> is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS "60 Minutes", "Kahane").
>
> Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldsteins
> philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence
> against "goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26,
> 1994,p. 5).
>
> Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish
> blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6,
> 1989, p.5).
> Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish
> fingernail."(NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
>
> Judeo-Christian Response to Talmud
> Neither the "modern" popes or the modern preachers of Protestantism,
> have ever insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn
> the Talmud. On the contrary, the heads of "Judeo-Churchianity" have
> urged the followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers
> of the Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that "Judeo-Churchianity"
> is the worst betrayer of Jesus Christ on Earth today.
>

THE UTTERLY RIDICULOUS IRRELEVANT STATEMENTS OF AN ISRAELI/JEWISH PATRIOT
WHO CARES NOTHING FOR THE USA TRYING TO TURN ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE
DISTORTION OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS LIVES AND MORALS FIGHTING AN UNPRINCIPLED
JEWISHWAR FOR JEWISH/ISRAELI GAIN IN LAND AND MONEY

SO TO RETURN TO WHAT THIS GIGGLING JEW/JEWISH SUPPORTER/ISRAELI WANTS TO
RIDICULE AND LAUGH AT.

NOTHINGFRIENDLY HERE THE CORRUPTION OF OUR YOUTH AND ARMED FORCES.

http://www.madcowprod.com/01192007.html

How you are corrupting the American army at the moment.

NOW THEY HAVE America participating?

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20040504_1.htm

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Ø According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and
> U.S. intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a
> number of Arabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators
> develop the "R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of
> the torture methods were developed by the Israelis over many years of
> interrogating Arab prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel
> itself.
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html
>
> Mirelle

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> Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and
have
> blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid
> Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's
chief
> interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
>
> In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those
> holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of
> Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next
> purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this
> week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of
mass
> murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews
> too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great
> murderers, among the greatest
> known by modern history.
>
> The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the
> Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this,
> obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet
> people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play
dumb":
> What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My
> own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be
> considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but
not
> considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.
>
> Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who
> served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment.
> After all, others will always remind us of their origin.

In article <1189752111.5...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
r9htz...@mangusta.e4ward.com says...
>
1290 expulsion from england.doc

http://www.heretical.org/British/jews1290.html

Although contemporary Jewish authors deny such things as ritual murder, some
admit that there may have been some unpleasant Jews around at the time.

1255, Lincoln. A boy called Hugh was kidnapped by the Jews and crucified and
tortured in hatred of Jesus Christ. The boy's mother found the body in a
well on the premises of a Jew called Jopin or Copinus. This Jew, promised by
the judge his life if he confessed, did so, and 91 Jews were arrested;
eventually 18 were hanged for the crime. King Henry III himself personally
ordered the juridical investigation of the case five weeks after the
discovery of the body, and refused to allow mercy to be shown to the Jew
Copinus, who was executed.

1144, Norwich. A twelve year-old boy was crucified and his side pierced at
the Jewish Passover. His body was found in a sack hidden in a tree. A
converted Jew, called Theobald of Cambridge, confessed that the Jews took
blood every year from a Christian child because they thought that only by so
doing could they ever obtain their freedom and return to Palestine; and that
it was their custom to draw lots to decide whence the blood was to be
supplied; Theobald said that last year the lot fell to Narbonne, but in this
year to Norwich. The boy was locally beatified and has ever since been known
as St. William. The Sheriff, probably bribed, refused to bring the Jews to
trial.

Crawl back under your rock you rock spider. Seeing at the moment America is
only " that far " as Maxwell Smart used to say from being a Hebrew speaking
all Israeli colony, so the only view currently accepted is a rabid zionist
nazi view which accepts only rabid zionist sources.
So it's a nice change to get away from mein kampf in Yiddish you zionist or
zionist arse licker, whichever fits.

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> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
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> > We need another world-wide krystallnacht against Zionist interests.
> > Let's get the terrorists packing back to Israhell! No more evil scum
> > perverting society from the top. Death to Zionism.
> >
> > http://judicial-inc.biz/Kristallnacht.htm
> > Kristallnacht
> >
> > The real story
> >
> >
> >
> > Some history leading up to Kristallnacht and WW 2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Amschel Rothschild finances the Bolshevik revolution
> >
> > The three Jews Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin kill over twenty million
> > Russians who were opposing the Jewish swindle. Russian artists,
> > teachers, intellectuals, leaders are imprisoned and sent to the Gulags.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In 1933 -34 the Ukraine farmers refused to turn their land over to the
> > communists and Stalin confiscated their crops and starved seven
> > million to death.
> >
> > wpe108.jpg (9124 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hitler blocks communism and Jews declare war on Germany
> >
> >
> >
> > Hitler is in the way of Communism
> >
> > wpeFE.jpg (2489 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Infuriated Jews declared war on Germany
> >
> > wpeF9.jpg (26368 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hitler stood alone and defiant against the tidal wave of Jewish
> > organized Communism then sweeping all before it. The Communists had
> > seized Russia and were at the bottom of civil unrest and revolution
> > throughout eastern Europe; Britain, France, - the Spanish Civil War -,
> > the British dominions and the United States.
> >
> > Germany alone repelled and held in check this tidal wave of subversion
> > and insurrection.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Circumstances leading up to Kristallnacht
> >
> >
> > Herschel Grynszpan
> >
> > wpeF5.jpg (3777 bytes)
> > A Jew assassinates a diplomat
> >
> > Grynszpan was an 17 yr old unemployed Jew who was funded by LICRA (
> > Jewish activist group ). His father had been a tailor who had moved
> > from Poland to Germany. Herschel had a reputation for disliking work
> > and he hung out at the homes of his uncles in Brussels and Paris.
> >
> > He checked into an expensive hotel just round the corner from the
> > offices of LICA.
> >
> > On November 7 1938, Herschel Grynszpan walked into the German embassy
> > in Paris and shot Ernst vom Rath, a German diplomat, five times.
> >
> > LICA at once hired one of the foremost barristers in Paris, and paid
> > his legal costs when he was arrested.
> > wpeF8.jpg (3083 bytes) Ernst vom Rath
> >
> > Was a 31 yr old German diplomat in Paris.
> >
> >
> >
> > Grynszpan was arrested
> > wpeF6.jpg (4305 bytes) Grynszpan was arrested at the scene and was
> > taken to a police station. Although he was a totally obscure Polish Jew
> > with no money and no apparent supporters, nevertheless one of France's
> > most famous lawyers, Moro Giafferi, appeared at the police station a
> > few hours after the shooting and told the police that he was
> > Grynszpan's attorney
> >
> >
> >
> > Famous lawyer ( Moro Giafferi ) mysteriously appears
> > wpeF7.jpg (2288 bytes)
> >
> > Moro Giafferi turns out to be the legal counsel of the LICA which was
> > founded in Paris in 1933 by the Jew Bernard Lecache and operated as a
> > militant propaganda organization .
> >
> > Another assassination
> >
> > In February 1936 Giafferi represented the Jew David Frankfurter who had
> > shot and killed Wilhelm Gustloff, the head of the Swiss branch of the
> > German National Socialist Party. During the subsequent trial it was
> > clearly established that Frankfurter had been a hired murderer with
> > backed by LICRA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Grynszpan survives the war and lives in Paris supported by LICRA
> > LICRA
> >
> > wpeF6.jpg (3187 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Grynszpan survived the war and returned to Paris where he was supported
> > by LICRA and was never charged.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bernard Lecache - LICRA founder
> > wpe100.jpg (2347 bytes) Grynszpan family recieved a vast sum and
> > papers to Palestine from LICRA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What Really Happened During the Crystal Night
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > wpeFC.jpg (11969 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Provocateurs appear in border towns
> > wpeED.jpg (4105 bytes) On 8 November 1938, one day before the Crystal
> > Night, strange persons who had never been seen there before suddenly
> > appeared in several small towns in Hessen near the French-German
> > border. They went to mayors, Kreisleiters (district Party leaders) and
> > other important officials in these towns and asked them what actions
> > were being planned against the Jews. The officials were rather startled
> > by these questions and replied that they didn't know of any such plans.
> > The strangers acted as if they were shocked to hear this. They shouted
> > and complained that something had to be done against the Jews and then,
> > without further explanation, they disappeared.
> > They usually regarded the strangers as crazy anti-Semites and promptly
> > forgot about the incidents - until the next evening. Some of these
> > apparently crazy individuals really outdid themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > Provocateurs dress as SS
> > wpeEF.jpg (2292 bytes) In one case two men, dressed as members of the
> > SS, went to an SA Standartenfuehrer (Colonel) and ordered him to
> > destroy the nearby synagogue. To understand the absurdity of this one
> > must know that the SS and SA were completely separate organizations. A
> > real SS member would never have tried to give orders to an SA unit.
> > This case shows that the strangers were foreigners who did not even
> > understand the distinctions of German authority. The SA
> > Standartenfuehrer rejected the demands of the self-styled SS men and
> > reported the incident to his superiors.
> >
> >
> >
> > Strangers giving speeches
> > wpeFB.jpg (5701 bytes) When the provocateurs realized that their
> > efforts were not working with local officials, they changed their
> > tactics. Instead they tried to incite directly the people in the
> > streets. In another town, for example, two men appeared at the market
> > place and began making speeches to the people there, trying to incite
> > them against the Jews. Eventually some people did indeed storm the
> > synagogue, but by then the two provocateurs had, of course,
> > disappeared. Similar incidents occurred in several towns.
> > Unidentified strangers suddenly appeared, gave speeches, started
> > throwing stones at windows, stormed Jewish buildings, schools,
> > hospitals, and synagogues, and then disappeared.
> >
> > These unusual incidents had already started on the 8th of November,
> > that is, before Ernst vom Rath was dead. His death was only reported
> > late on the evening of the 9th. The fact that this strange pattern of
> > incidents had already begun one day earlier proves that the death of
> > vom Rath was not the reason for the Crystal Night outburst. Vom Rath
> > was still alive when the pogrom began.
> >
> >
> >
> > These were methodical thugs and not enraged citizens
> > wpe102.jpg (1793 bytes) Well organized and widespread incidents began
> > on the evening of 9 November. Groups of generally five or six young
> > men, armed with bars and clubs, went down the streets smashing store
> > windows. They were not Jew-hating SA men, enraged over the murder of a
> > German diplomat. They operated too methodically to have been motivated
> > by anger.
> >
> > They carried out their work without any apparent emotion. Nonetheless,
> > it was their destruction
> > that encouraged certain other individuals from the lowest social
> > classes to become a mob and continue the destruction.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All one can learn from history writers is that "all" synagogues were
> > demolished and that "all" shop windows were destroyed. Aside from this
> > vague description, one is given almost no details.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jews fought off attacks
> >
> >
> > History writers tell us that during the Crystal Night all the Jews were
> > frightened, meekly accepted whatever happened to them and watched the
> > destruction of their property with no resistance. The contrary is true.
> > While going through the files on this subject, I found many documents
> > which report precisely just the opposite of what is claimed. The fact
> > is that in many cases Jews and their German neighbors fought together
> > against the attackers, pushing them down staircases. Street mobs were
> > beaten up and chased away in more than one case.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Police on side of Jews
> >
> > SA officers stood watch preventing attacks
> >
> > Police and Party officials were generally on the side of the Jews. Some
> > Jewish community leaders went to police stations the next morning and
> > asked the police to investigate the damage done to their synagogues.
> > The resulting police reports are still available in the files today.
> > wpeEF.jpg (4518 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Jews weren't phased by attacks
> > wpeF7.jpg (5870 bytes) Also contrary to what we have been told, most
> > Jews were not directly affected by these events. In Berlin, for
> > example, all of the teachers and pupils of the city's largest Jewish
> > school, which served the entire Berlin area, appeared in their classes
> > the next morning without having noticed anything unusual during the
> > previous night.
> >
> > Heinemann Stern, the Jewish principal of that school, wrote in his
> > postwar memoirs that he noticed a burning synagogue on his way to the
> > school on the morning after the Crystal Night, but he thought it was
> > just an accidental fire.
> >
> > It was only after he arrived at the school that he received a telephone
> > call informing him of the destruction of the previous night. He then
> > went on with his classes of the day and only during the first recess
> > did he take the trouble to inform the entire student body about what
> > had happened.
> >
> > Jewish historians rewrote history
> >
> > Historians wrote: "Every single Jew was beaten, chased, robbed,
> > insulted and humiliated. The SA tore the Jews from their beds,
> > mercilessly beat them in their apartments and then ... chased them
> > almost to death ... Blood flowed everywhere."
> >
> > [9] Is it conceivable that thousands of Jewish children would be have
> > been sent to school by their parents on the morning after that fateful
> > night if the attacks against Jews had been so horrific or extensive?
> > Would any parents have let their children go to school if they had
> > thought there was even the slightest danger of them being attacked by
> > roving gangs of SA men? I think the answer is clearly no!
> >
> >
> >
> > Who Could the Provocateurs Have Been?
> >
> > In the wake of the Crystal Night, almost everyone wanted to know who
> > the culprits were. Dr. Goebbels expressed his suspicion that a secret
> > organization must have instigated the entire affair. He simply could
> > not believe that anything so well organized could have been a
> > spontaneous popular outburst.
> >
> > Apparently to avoid internal wrangling and the harm that this would do
> > to their public image, an investigation to determine the instigators
> > never took place. Hitler believed that Dr. Goebbels, his closest
> > confidant and the one man he could never abandon, had been the
> > instigator.
> >
> > The only persons actually punished were individual SA men who had
> > participated directly in the pogrom and been accused in German courts
> > of murder, assault, looting or other criminal acts by Jewish or German
> > witnesses to these crimes. But before any of these cases ever actually
> > came to trail, Hitler issued a special decree ordering the postponement
> > of all such cases until after the accused individuals were first
> > prosecuted by the Supreme Party Court, an internal court concerned with
> > discipline within the National Socialist Party organization.
> >
> >
> > Mystery phone calls to local town officials
> > wpe103.jpg (1679 bytes) Several district and local Party leaders
> > (Kreisleiters and Ortsgruppenleiters) were awakened from their sleep in
> > the middle of the night by telephone calls. Someone claiming to be from
> > the regional Party headquarters or the regional Party propaganda bureau
> > (Gauleitung or Gaupropagandaleitung) would ask what was happening in
> > the official's town or city. If the Party official answered "Nothing,
> > everything is quiet," the telephone caller would then say in German
> > slang that he had received an order to the effect that the Jews were
> > going to get it tonight and that the respective official should carry
> > out the order.
> >
> > In most cases the Party leader, disturbed from his sleep, did not even
> > understand what had happened. Some simply dismissed the call as a joke
> > and went back to bed.
> >
> > Others called back the office from where the telephone voice had
> > pretended to be calling. If they managed to reach someone in charge,
> > they were often told that nobody knew anything about such a call. But
> > if they reached only a lower official they were often told: "Well, if
> > you got that order, you'd better go ahead and do what you were told."
> > These telephone calls caused considerable confusion. All this came out
> > months later during the trials conducted by the Supreme Party Court.
> > The Chief Judge concluded that in every case a misunderstanding had
> > arisen in one link or other of the chain of command. But when they were
> > confronted with apparently genuine orders to organize demonstrations
> > against the Jews that night, most of the Party leaders had simply not
> > known what to do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously a group of centrally organized thugs
> >
> >
> > The pattern of seemingly sporadic anti-Jewish incidents in small towns,
> > followed only later by a carefully planned outburst in many large
> > cities throughout Germany, clearly suggests the work of a centrally
> > organized group of well-trained agents. Even shortly after the Crystal
> > Night, many leading Party officials suspected that the entire affair
> > had been centrally coordinated. Significantly, even Hermann Graml, the
> > only West German historian who has written in detail about the Crystal
> > Night, carefully distinguished between provocateurs and people who were
> > simply carried away by their emotions and spontaneously took part in
> > the riot and destruction.
> >
> >
> >
> > The timing was perfect
> >
> > Most party officials were at a commemoration at the Alte Rathaus in
> > Munich
> >
> > wpeF5.jpg (5381 bytes)
> >
> >
> > Munich on the Ninth of November
> > While all this was happening across the Reich, a special annual
> > commemoration was being held in Munich. Fifteen years earlier, on 9
> > November 1923, a movement led by Adolph Hitler, Erich von Ludendorff (a
> > leading First World War General), and two major figures in the Bavarian
> > government tried to depose the legal government and take responsibility
> > themselves as a new national government. wpeF6.jpg (2743 bytes)
> >
> >
> > Feldherrnhalle
> > wpeF1.jpg (8854 bytes) The uprising or putsch was put down and 16
> > rebels were shot down next to the Feldherrnhalle, a famous old monument
> > building in central Munich. Accordingly, the 9th of November had been
> > commemorated every year since 1933 as the memorial day for the martyred
> > heroes of the National Socialist movement. Adolph Hitler and the Party
> > veterans, as well as all of the Gauleiters (regional Party leaders) met
> > every year in Munich for the occasion. Hitler would usually deliver a
> > speech to a select audience of Party veterans at the famous
> > Buergerbraeukeller restaurant on the evening of the 8th.
> >
> > Hitler and veterans reenact
> >
> > On the morning of the 9th Hitler and his veteran comrades would reenact
> > the 1923 "March to the Feldherrnhalle."
> >
> >
> > wpeF7.jpg (3902 bytes)
> >
> >
> > wpeF0.jpg (3689 bytes) SS ceremony
> >
> > On the evening of the 9th the Fuehrer always held an informal dinner at
> > the Old Town Hall ("Alte Rathaus") with old comrades as well as all the
> > Gauleiters. At midnight young men who were about to enter the SS and
> > the SA were sworn in at the Feldherrnhalle.
> >
> > All of the Gauleiters and other guests participated in this very solemn
> > ceremony. After it was over they left Munich and returned to their
> > homes throughout the Reich.
> >
> >
> > Gaulieters not at posts
> >
> >
> > It is clear that the 9th of November date was chosen very cleverly. The
> > annual commemoration ceremony of that day insured that almost all of
> > the Gauleiters would be away from their home offices when the
> > anti-Jewish demonstrations began. In other words, the actual
> > decision-making responsibilities that were normally carried out by the
> > Gauleiters were temporarily in the hands of lower-ranking individuals
> > with less experience.
> >
> > Between 8 and 10 November, subordinate officials stood in for the
> > Gauleiters who were either in Munich or en route to or from the annual
> > commemoration there. This temporary transfer of decision-making
> > authority is very important because it contributed to much of the
> > subsequent confusion and thus helped the provocateurs. Another
> > contributing factor was the fact that no one expected any trouble. At
> > that time Germany was one of the most peaceful countries in the world.
> >
> >
> > There was no reason to expect any kind of unrest. It was only during
> > dinner at the Old Town Hall that the first sporadic reports of riot and
> > destruction reached Munich from some of the Gauleiter's home offices.
> > At the same time it was learned that Ernst vom Rath had died in Paris
> > from his wounds.
> >
> >
> >
> > What Was Goebbels Doing?
> > wpeF2.jpg (2300 bytes) After the dinner was over, the Fuehrer left at
> > about 9 p.m. and returned to his apartment. Dr. Goebbels then stood up
> > and spoke briefly about the latest news. He informed the audience that
> > vom Rath had died and that, as a result, anti-Jewish demonstrations had
> > spontaneously broken out in two or three places. Goebbels was renowned
> > for his passionate and inspiring speeches. But what he gave that
> > evening was not a speech at all but only a short and very informal
> > announcement.
> >
> >
> >
> > He suggested that the Gauleiters and the head of the SA, Viktor Lutze,
> > should contact their home offices to make sure that peace and order
> > were being maintained.
> >
> >
> > You may have heard the widespread allegation that Goebbels started the
> > Crystal Night pogrom with a fiery speech on that evening of 9 November.
> > This widely accepted story is false. The following facts will clarify
> > this point:
> >
> > As Gauleiter for Berlin, Dr. Goebbels had no authority outside of his
> > Berlin district. Although he was also the Propaganda Minister of the
> > German government, this did not give him any authority over Party
> > officials. Furthermore, he had no authority whatsoever over the SA or
> > the SS.
> >
> >
> > Goebbels understood this damaged the Reich international standing
> > Of all the National Socialist leaders, Dr. Goebbels would have
> > understood better than anyone else the immense damage that an
> > anti-Jewish pogrom would cause for Germany. On the morning of 10
> > November, when he first learned about the extent of the damage and
> > destruction of the previous night, he was furious and shocked at the
> > stupidity of those who had participated.
> >
> > How could a speech given after 9 p.m. on the evening of 9 November have
> > possibly incited a "pogrom" which had already begun the day before when
> > the first provocateurs appeared at municipal and Party offices to
> > persuade officials to take action against the Jews?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gauleiters telephoned subordinates to maintain peace
> > The Gauleiters and the SA commander went to the telephones and called
> > their respective home offices to order their subordinates to do
> > everything necessary to maintain peace and order. They emphasized that
> > under no circumstances must anyone take part in any demonstrations.
> > These telephone instructions were written down at the home offices by
> > whoever was on duty. The orders from each Gauleiter were then passed on
> > by telex to other offices within the Gau or district. These telex
> > messages are still in various records files and are available to anyone
> > who wishes to examine them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Orders to Stop the Pogrom
> > wpeF5.jpg (3954 bytes) While the Gauleiters were calling their home
> > offices, the head of the SA, Viktor Lutze, ordered all of his immediate
> > subordinates, the SA Gruppenfuehrers, who were together with him in
> > Munich, to call their home offices as well. Lutze ordered that under no
> > circumstances could SA men take part in any demonstrations against
> > Jews, and that furthermore the SA was to intervene to stop any
> > demonstrations already in progress.
> >
> >
> > SA, Viktor Lutze gives orders to protect Jews
> >
> > As a result of these strict orders, SA men began to guard Jewish stores
> > that very night wherever windows had been broken. There is no doubt
> > about this order by Lutze because we have the postwar court testimony
> > of several witnesses confirming it. The SS and the police were given
> > similar orders to restore peace and order.
> > wpeFB.jpg (2954 bytes)
> >
> >
> >
> > Heydrich orders SS to protect Jews
> > wpeFC.jpg (1558 bytes) Himmler ordered Reinhard Heydrich to prevent
> > all destruction of property and to protect Jews against demonstrators.
> > The telex communication of this order still exists. It is in the files
> > of the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg.
> > However, during the Nuremberg trial this telex order was presented in
> > three different forms, with forged amendments to change the original
> > meaning.
> >
> > In my book Feuerzeichen I undertook to restore the original text.
> > wpeED.jpg (6116 bytes)
> >
> >
> > Hitler was furious
> > wpeFE.jpg (2489 bytes) Adolf Hitler joined the midnight celebration at
> > the Feldherrnhalle. It was only after he returned to his apartment
> > about one o'clock in the morning that he learned about the
> > demonstrations which had been taking place in Munich, during which one
> > synagogue had been set on fire. He was furious and immediately ordered
> > the police chief of Munich to come see him. Hitler told him to
> > immediately stop the fire and to make sure that no other outrages took
> > place in Munich. He then called various police and Party officials
> > throughout the Reich to learn the extent of these demonstrations
> >
> > Finally, he ordered a telex message sent to all Gauleiter offices. It
> > read: "By express order from the very highest authority, arson against
> > Jewish businesses or other property must in no case and under no
> > circumstances take place." Synagogues were not specifically mentioned,
> > apparently because Hitler was still unaware of the burning of
> > synagogues, apart from the one in Munich.
> >
> > How Did the SA Get Involved Despite the Orders From Its Own Leaders?
> >
> > According to the records, at least three of the 28 SA Groups did not
> > obey the orders of SA chief Lutze. Instead, they sent out their men to
> > destroy synagogues and Jewish buildings. In effect they did precisely
> > the opposite of what Lutze had ordered. What actually happened is clear
> > from the testimony and evidence presented at postwar trials against
> > former SA men accused of participating in the riot.
> >
> >
> >
> > Provocateurs sent messages to SA Brigade
> > wpeED.jpg (2921 bytes) The trials, held between 1946 and 1952, were
> > based to a large extent on the report of SA Brigade 50 chief Karl Lucke
> > and begins with these words: "On 10 November 1938, at 3 o'clock in the
> > morning, I received the following order: 'By order of the
> > Gruppenfuehrer, all Jewish synagogues within the Brigade district are
> > to be immediately blown up or set on fire'." Lucke then included in his
> > report a listing of synagogues which had been destroyed by members of
> > his Brigade.
> >
> > This report has been cited by the prosecution at the Nuremberg Tribunal
> > and by practically all of the consensus historians ever since as proof
> > that the SA was given orders to destroy Jewish stores and synagogues.
> >
> > Lutze ordered the Group leaders to contact their home offices to stop
> > all anti-Jewish demonstrations, Fust, along with the other SA leaders,
> > did just that. He called his office in Mannheim and passed on the
> > orders he had received from Lutze. The man who was on duty that night
> > at the Mannheim SA office telephone and who received Fust's order
> > confirmed that he understood it and then hung up. But he never passed
> > on the order he had received. Instead, he transmitted precisely the
> > opposite order.
> >
> > Fritsch gets bogus orders
> > wpeF0.jpg (1550 bytes) The normal procedure would have been for the
> > man on duty at the telephone to immediately call the deputy group
> > leader, Lucke, who was in nearby Darmstadt. But instead he called SA
> > Oberfuehrer (senior colonel) Fritsch and asked him to come to the
> > office. Fritsch had a reputation for not being particularly clever.
> > When he arrived, the man who had received the telephone call showed him
> > a small paper slip with a few notes on it which said that the
> > synagogues within the Mannheim SA Group district were to be destroyed.
> >
> > The man who had received the call explained to Fritsch that the order
> > had just arrived from Munich. Slow-minded as he was, Fritsch did not
> > know what to do and called the local Kreisleiter (district Party
> > leader) and his deputy. These two men then arrived at the SA office and
> > discussed the situation, while at the same time the telephone duty man
> > notified other SA leaders, but still not the deputy Group leader Lucke.
> > In the meantime the small paper slip disappeared and the SA men now
> > arriving at the headquarters met only the Kreisleiter, who told them
> > about the order which he thought had come from Munich. No one asked for
> > any further confirmation. The SA men then left to begin the
> > destruction. Hours later, when the whole action was almost finished,
> > the telephone guard finally called Deputy Group Leader Lucke and passed
> > on the false order. He also informed Lucke that the action had already
> > been going on for several hours. Since it was almost all over by this
> > time, Lucke also neglected to ask for confirmation of the order. It was
> > already 3 o'clock in the morning. Lucke then alerted the
> > Standartenfuehrer of his Brigade and carried out the destruction within
> > the Darmstadt district.
> >
> > Mysterious telephone call
> >
> >
> > At 8 o'clock the next morning Lucke sat down and wrote the report which
> > was later cited at the Nuremberg Tribunal. In fact, as already shown,
> > there was no order to commit arson or carry out destruction against any
> > Jewish property from the Gruppenfuehrer in Munich, but only from the
> > telephone guard. Who he was remains a mystery. During the postwar
> > trials against members of this SA unit, none of the judges asked for
> > the name or identity of this telephone guard. This mysterious man was
> > very probably an agent for those who were actually behind the entire
> > Crystal Night Affair.
> >
> >
> > The Fine Imposed on the Jews
> > wpeA9.jpg (11601 bytes) German government and Party officials were
> > furious about what had happened. Hermann Goering, who was responsible
> > for Germany's economy, complained that it would be impossible to
> > replace the special plate glass of the broken store windows because it
> > was not manufactured in Germany. It had to be imported from Belgium and
> > would cost a great deal of precious foreign currency.
> >
> >
> >
> > Reason for fine
> > wpeF8.jpg (3662 bytes) Because of the Jewish boycott against German
> > goods, the Reich was short of foreign exchange currency. Goering
> > therefore decided that because this shortage was caused by the Jews, it
> > was they who would have to pay for the broken glass. He imposed a fine
> > of one billion Reichsmarks on the German Jews.
> >
> > It was certainly unjust to force Jews to pay for damage which they had
> > not caused. Goering understood this. However, in private he justified
> > the fine by citing the fact that the 1933 Jewish declaration of war
> > against Germany was proclaimed in the name of the millions of Jews
> > throughout the world.
> >
> > Therefore they could now help their co-religionists in Germany bear the
> > consequences of the boycott. It should also be pointed out that only
> > German Jews with assets of more than 5,000 Reichsmarks in cash had to
> > contribute to the fine. In 1938, when prices were very low, 5,000
> > Reichsmarks was a small fortune.
> >
> > The Reich confiscated all insurance payments that were to have been
> > paid to Jews whose businesses and homes were looted or destroyed and
> > the Jewish owners were made personally responsible for the cost of all
> > repairs.
> >
> >
> >
> > 'Crystal Night' 1938: The great Anti-German spectacle
> > Ingrid Weckert
> >
> > * Paper Presented to the Sixth International Revisionist
> > Conference.
> >

WHO WOULD WANT TO DO SUCH A THING???

AND WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE THE POWER, MONEY AND READY ARMY???

American society.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rothschild2.html

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm

http://www.rothschild.com/groupprivatebanking/?id=businesses/RothschildBankZurich


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> Last update - 01:18 15/06/2007
> The twilight zone / 'Now you are paralyzed, as we
> promised'
> By Gideon Levy
>
> "We have to make you do a little sports," the Shin Bet
> interrogator said, launching four successive days of
> questioning accompanied by brutal physical torture.
> The result: Luwaii Ashqar can no longer stand on his
> feet. He sits in his wheelchair, dressed in a
> fashionable quasi-military suit, super-elegant, new
> Caterpillar-brand shoes on his paralyzed feet.
>
> "I love this color," he says about his uniform. "It's
> the color of the soldiers who came to arrest me for
> the interrogation that did all this to me."
>
> His smile is captivating, his Hebrew rich and
> incisive. He is a young man whose world fell apart. He
> entered prison sound of body and mind and emerged a
> broken man. For four days and four nights nonstop, he
> says, he was interrogated and subjected to torture of
> the most brutal kind. The result is the person we see
> before us in the wheelchair, in the elegant home high
> in the village of Saida, north of Tul Karm, which was
> placed at his disposal by a friend after he was
> released from Israeli prison a month ago.
>
> Was there a judgment by the High Court of Justice?
> There was. It banned precisely the types of torture he
> underwent: the "banana posture," the "shabah" (body
> stretching with hands tied to a chair), "invisible"
> blows and the "frog posture" (being forced to stand
> for hours on the toes in a crouching position) - all
> the way to a vicious kick to his chest that bent his
> body backward while he was tied to a chair with his
> arms and legs, and which was the probable cause of the
> partial paralysis of his legs.
>
> Throwing up with the vomit entering his nostrils,
> losing consciousness and being given only saltwater to
> drink, relieving himself in his pants, not sleeping or
> resting - all of that for four consecutive days and
> nights.
>
> What does the interrogator Maimon tell his children
> when he goes home? What do Eldad and Sagiv tell their
> wives about their daily labors before they turn in?
> That they tortured another helpless prisoner until
> they turned him into a cripple? That they beat this
> charming young man brutally and that at the end of the
> interrogation he was tried for only marginal offenses?
> And where is the Supreme Court, which in 1999
> prohibited precisely the chain of torture that Luwaii
> Sati Ashqar, 30, who was married three years ago,
> underwent in the Kishon detention facility?
>
> Ashqar is not alone. The Public Committee Against
> Torture in Israel has just issued a new report
> containing the testimonies of nine torture victims
> (English version: http://www.stoptorture.org.il/eng/
> ). As the authors of the shocking report say, the
> testimonies "paint a dismal picture in which can be
> discerned various categories of secret-keeping
> collaborators, who, in keeping silent, protect the
> [Shin Bet] system of torture." ...
>
> On the wall is a picture, a fine drawing of a kneeling
> prisoner, his head between his knees. The caption: "I
> am in the darkness of the prison, living on your
> memory. I am far from you, lying in my bed, my spirit
> cruising your land all night. God will release all the
> prisoners, the strong will triumph."
>
> Ashqar is sitting in his wheelchair, his left leg
> completely enclosed in a cast, his right leg shaking
> nonstop. When he tries to get up and lean on his
> crutches, he threatens to topple over. "I was married
> in 2004, and I started to work in aluminum in the
> village to provide for my new household. On April 22,
> 2005, at 2:30 A.M., the soldiers came and started to
> throw grenades and to shout for everyone in the house
> to go outside. They blindfolded me with whatever they
> use and handcuffed me. I was taken in a jeep to prison
> and I was examined by an army doctor. He looked over
> my body - no operations, doesn't take medication, no
> illnesses. Again I was taken in a military jeep, this
> time to Kishon. 'Yehuda, incoming,' the warder said
> and transferred me to the interrogation office. They
> opened my eyes: Good morning. An excellent morning.
> One of the interrogators, Maimon, told me: I am
> responsible for your file. What file? The one you were
> arrested for. This is the major, and this tall guy is
> the colonel, this is Sagiv and this is Eldad. Eight
> interrogators.
>
> "They said: We have no time, it will soon be our
> Passover and you have to finish everything in a short
> time. Finish what? You have to tell us what you have.
> I don't have anything to tell you. I begged. They
> said: We know all that nonsense. We are talking about
> security. Plans for terrorist attacks at Passover. I
> said: I don't understand what you are talking about.
> They said: The suicide bomber was at your place. What
> suicide bomber?
>
> "After two hours of talking they said to me: If you
> don't give everything you have, we will have to take
> it by a different way. What is the different way? Did
> you hear of a military interrogation? You might leave
> here with your body battered or crippled. I was taken
> to a military interrogation. Here you pray to God that
> you will die, they said, but we won't give you that.
> We will let you die only after you spill out what we
> are looking for. He gave me a prison uniform and I
> told him that if I was going to die, I preferred my
> own clothes.
>
> "They sat me down on a square chair without a back,
> which was attached to the floor and had sharp metal
> ends [sticking up]. My legs were tied to the legs of
> the chair with metal cuffs and my hands were tied
> behind my back with metal cuffs. One interrogator sat
> behind me and the other in front of me. The
> interrogator opposite me said: We have to give you a
> little sports, so you will be able to hold out in the
> military interrogation. The sports was that they
> pushed me backward by the chest, a backward
> somersault, and I would hold myself so my bones would
> not break. After a minute or two I would automatically
> fall on the floor, but the interrogator behind me
> would put his foot on my chest and press, and the
> interrogator in front would grab my hands and pull and
> pull behind the chair. They kept on like that until I
> don't know what happened to me, heat in every part of
> my body, puking everything I had in my stomach and it
> would go into my nostrils. I would wake up when they
> poured water on my face. When I woke up, we went back
> to the same situation. It went on like this 15-20
> times an hour.
>
> "After that they made me crouch on my toes, not
> letting me lean on the back of my foot. I was in that
> position for 40-50 minutes, maybe an hour - that was
> my estimate - until I felt my soles swelling and they
> turned blue and there was tremendous pain. After that,
> stand up, and they tied my hands and pressed as hard
> as they could on the metal handcuffs until the metal
> dug into my hand. Here are the signs, you can still
> see them. Because of the pressure, the key of the
> handcuffs didn't always work and they would bring huge
> metal scissors, like they use in construction, and
> tear off the handcuffs and then bring new ones, to go
> on. The color of my hands changed to blue, and when
> they opened [the handcuffs] my hands shook. The
> interrogator stood on the table and pulled me with a
> chain of handcuffs. When I fell, they pulled me by the
> hair.
>
> "I would cry, beg, shout, and they came back to me
> with words, that it was impossible to stop, only after
> you start talking about what we want. I said to them:
> Tell me what you want. Tell me I am responsible for
> the attack on the Pentagon, I am ready to confess to
> everything, just tell me what. I want to end this
> death."
>
> "There were always four interrogators and two rotated
> every four hours, day and night. The new ones would
> tell me they were stronger than the ones before, that
> the ones before were a joke, we are the strong ones.
> And that was true. The new ones tied me and started to
> beat me all over my body. One interrogator pressed
> hard on my testicles and on my feet with his shoes.
> When they slapped me and I tried to pull back, the
> major would say: What are you doing? If you move back,
> I will break your nose, and if you move forward I will
> rip off your ear. Be strong and take it sportingly,
> because you are a soldier and a fighter. They broke
> this tooth."
>
> Ashqar suddenly stops talking. He turns pale and his
> face is covered with beads of perspiration. His
> father, Sati, quickly wipes his face with a damp
> cloth. "Every time I try to remember I get dizzy, even
> when I am alone." Quiet descends in the room. It will
> take Ashqar another few minutes to pull himself
> together.
>
> "I was taken into detention on Friday morning, and
> that was the last light of day I saw before the
> interrogation. I came out for the first time on Monday
> night or before dawn on Tuesday morning. On those long
> days I sat in a chair and did not even go to the
> toilet. So you won't kill yourself, they said. I
> urinated in my clothes, and a terrible stench started.
> For four days I didn't eat anything. They told me: If
> we give you something to eat, something will happen to
> your stomach and your intestines. Maybe they will
> explode under the pressure of the food when we push
> you backward. You will drink only half a cup of
> saltwater. That is what they gave me every time after
> they bent me and I vomited. Why with salt? I asked.
> Give me without salt. No, so nothing will happen in
> your stomach and intestines. I would drink it and
> vomit.
>
> "On Monday evening, they told me that five witnesses
> had testified that Luwaii had transported a wanted
> man. I told them that there was a famous wanted man
> named Luwaii Sadi, but my name is Luwaii Sati, and
> maybe they had mixed us up. He said to me: Are you
> saying the Shin Bet is that stupid? We know exactly
> what we're doing, and it is all correct. I said: Put
> me on trial for whatever you want. He said: Ya'allah,
> sports again. He pushes me backward in the chair. I
> will help you become a story in Palestinian history.
> He is talking to me and my head is down below. He
> pushes strongly with his leg and presses on my chest.
> I felt something like an explosion in my body. Like
> something broke. After that I don't know what
> happened. I woke up and they were pouring water on my
> face. Again they pushed me backward and again I
> fainted.
>
> "He said to me: Stand on your feet. I felt that my
> legs were cold, like pins and needles in the legs. I
> said: I can't. He said: Now you are paralyzed. I said:
> I guess I am. He said: That is what we promised you
> and that is what you want."
>
>
> "I discovered I had a wound in the back and it was
> bleeding - because of the sharp chair - and one of my
> bones was protruding. Because of the blood and because
> of the urine of four days there was such a stench that
> the interrogator could not come close to me. He said:
> Why do you stink like that? I told him: That is your
> perfume. A warder took me to the shower and threw me
> on the floor and said to me: Ya'allah, you have two
> minutes to shower. I looked at the faucet up above and
> I could not reach it. I pulled down my pants and the
> underpants stayed in place. I tried to pull them down
> - I could do it in front but behind it was stuck to my
> back. The two minutes went by and the warder started
> to pound on the door. Time's up. I told him: Give me
> another two minutes, I can't reach the faucet. He came
> in and asked: What do you have on your back? I said: I
> don't know.
>
> "He called the interrogator and said: Come and see the
> prisoner. The interrogator came and asked: What do you
> have, Luwaii? I said: I don't know what I have on my
> back, I can't pull the underpants down and I can't
> reach the faucet. He said: Ya'allah, we will go up and
> finish the story and take you to the doctor.
>
> "Two warders took me in a Prisons Service vehicle to
> Rambam [Medical Center in Haifa]. In emergency, my
> hands and feet were tied and a Russian doctor asked
> me: What hurts you? I told him: My whole body hurts
> from the interrogation. The Druze warder said: Shut
> up. The doctor turned me on the side and stuck a
> finger into my ass. I asked him: What are you doing?
> He said: I am checking whether you have hemorrhoids.
> Why didn't you ask me first? I am a professional, he
> said. I said: What about the wound on the back? He put
> ointment there and dressed it. After 10 minutes I was
> taken back to interrogation. Again I was tied to the
> square chair. The bandage fell off and the wound
> started to bleed again. After that, they stopped the
> military interrogation."
>
>
> He was interrogated for another two months, but
> without physical torture. He was told that his wife
> had been arrested because of him - a complete
> fabrication - and he was given a lie detector test
> ("the falsehoods machine," in his Hebrew). For two
> weeks he was placed in a cell with stool pigeons. In
> the end, he was indicted on only two counts, in
> Prosecution File 2157/05: assisting a wanted person to
> hide and using a forged document. No ticking and no
> bomb. Ashqar was sentenced to 26 months in prison and
> was released a month ago. In the meantime, his younger
> brother, Osaimar, disappeared. Soldiers came to the
> house looking for him, but he was not there. His
> family has not seen him since: He told them that he
> was not willing to undergo what Luwaii did.
>
> Luwaii is now looking for a way to get medical
> treatment in Israel or abroad, after his physician
> told him that he would not be able to get
> rehabilitation in the West Bank. His lawyer told him
> that the Shin Bet will almost certainly prevent him
> from going anywhere.
>
> ---
>
> This is the response received by Haaretz from the Shin
> Bet:
>
> Luwaii Ashqar was arrested in April 2005, after
> serious suspicions were raised against him concerning
> his involvement in terrorism, including possession of
> weapons and assistance to wanted individuals - terror
> activists from Islamic Jihad.
>
> One of the suspicions was that he had provided
> accommodation, ahead of a terrorist act, for Sirhan
> Sarhan, the perpetrator of the attack in Kibbutz
> Metzer, who murdered Revital Ohayon and her two
> children, Noam and Matan, of blessed memory.
>
> The suspect was tried and convicted in a plea bargain,
> and sentenced to 14 months in prison and another 14
> months in prison stemming from a pending conditional
> sentence, so that all told he was sentenced to 26
> months in prison. In addition, he received a 28-month
> suspended sentence.
>
> His interrogation was carried out according to the
> rules and directives, with constant review of the
> interrogation process.
>
> During the interrogation, the above-named put forward
> medical complaints, which were examined and treated by
> the appropriate medical authorities, including an
> examination he underwent in hospital.
>
> It should be noted that during the interrogation he
> did not cite medical complaints of the same
> seriousness as those mentioned in the query.
>
> Complaints relating to his interrogation, from, among
> other sources, the Committee Against Torture and the
> Red Cross, were referred to the State Prosecutor's
> Office for examination, which ordered an examination
> by the Ombudsman of Interogees' Complaints.
>
> The examination of the complaints did not turn up any
> excesses in the interrogation, and in the wake of
> this, the official in charge of the OIC in the State
> Prosecutor's Office decided to close the examination
> file.
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871239.html
>


WHO WOULD WANT TO DO SUCH A THING???

AND WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO???

WELL THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT THE NEXT .

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> U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens
> Published on Monday, February 04, 2008.
>
>
> Source: Propaganda Matrix- Paul Joseph Watson
>
> U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and
> shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members,
as
> part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial
> law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.
>
> We received an e mail from "Scott", a member of a pipefitters union that
> runs an apprenticeship program called Helmets To Hard Hats, which
according
> to its website, "Is a national program that connects National Guard,
Reserve
> and transitioning active-duty military members with quality career
training
> and employment opportunities within the construction industry."
> Scott writes that his company hired a soldier who had recently returned
from
> Iraq, who told him that U.S. troops were being quizzed on whether or not
> they would be prepared to shoot their own friends and family members
during
> a national state of emergency in America.
>
> "I have become very close to this young man and have gained his respect
and
> trust," writes Scott. "I want you to know that he informed me about one
> particular training exercise his superiors made them perform. It was
> concerning the rounding up of American citizens that disobey any type of
> martial law or in other words any type of infringement on our freedoms."
>
> "He was asked if he could shoot his friends or family members if ordered
to
> do so. At the time he said he could," writes Scott.
> Scott says that the soldier later "had time to clear his head" and realize
> the truth, recanting his vow to kill his own countrymen if ordered to do
so.
>
> The issue of whether U.S. troops would be prepared to round-up, disarm and
> if necessary shoot Americans who disobeyed orders during a state of
martial
> law is a question that military chiefs have been attempting to answer for
at
> least 15 years.
>
> Its known origins can be traced back to an October 1994 Marine
questionnaire
> out of the Twentynine Palms Marine Base in California. Recruits were asked
> 46 questions, including whether they would kill U.S. citizens who refused
to
> surrender their firearms.
>
> Documentary film maker Alex Jones brought to light similar training
programs
> that were taking place across the country in the late 90's which revolved
> around U.S. Marines being trained to arrest American citizens and take
them
> to internment camps.
>
> During one such program in Oakland California, dubbed "Operation Urban
> Warrior," Marines refused to answer if they would target American citizens
> for gun confiscation if ordered to do so.
>
>
>
> During hurricane Katrina, National Guard units were ordered to confiscate
> guns belonging to New Orleans residents.
>
> As we first exposed in May 2006, Clergy Response Teams are being trained
by
> the federal government and FEMA to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to
> obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.
>
> Pastors and other religious representatives are being taught to become
> secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the
> government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property
> and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.
>
> Many scoffed at our original story, which was based on the testimony of a
> whistleblower who was asked to participate in the program. Claims that the
> story was a conspiracy theory soon evaporated when a mainstream KSLA news
> report confirmed the existence of the program.
>
>
>
> The experiences of U.S. troops in the worst areas of Iraq, where soldiers
> are ordered to go door to door and arrest all men of military age as well
as
> confiscate their weapons, is a mere portend of what is being planned for
> America if these training programs ever come to fruition.
>
>
> http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5482
>


Semitism is the baton used in Germany to kill any sounds that clear the
picture of human rights violation Israel commits.

HAVE WE JOINED THE GUTLESS POLS AND ACADEMICS IN OUR COUNTRY?

AND THESE GUTLESS ACADEMICS IN NOT QUESTIONING ARE SUPPORTING THE LIES AND
PROPAGANDA SPREAD BY ZIONISTS / ISRAEL AND
SUPPORTERS WHO BY THE WAY ARE NOT EITHER LOYAL CITIZENS TO OUR WESTERN
DEMOCRACIES OR HONEST MEN/WOMEN TO SUPPORT SUCH LIES.

ACADEMICS BY THEIR SILENCE ALLOWING THESE FRAUDS TO ENJOY A GOOD LIVING ON
THESE LIES AND BY THEIR INACTION PERSECUTING HONEST ACADEMICS SIMPLY FOR
EXPOSING THE TRUTH.

Casualties in WW2
Not including the documented 5 million non Jewish in concentration camps
who far out numbered the suspected true number (700,000 ODD) of Jewish
victims. And this is without lies and exaggerations about non jewish
cassualities. And freedom for any historian or amateur history buff to
examine and point out flaws without fear of castigation or jail terms.

And no one is going around asking for special favors and sympathy because of
these immense casualities. And certainly don't look like getting anything
from jewish interests who by lies have swollen their numbers to higher than
these. AND BEGGED ALL SORTS OF FAVORS AND REPARATIONS WITH THOSE EXAGERATED
FIGURES. WHILE USING THEIR STORIES TO CAUSE AN IMMENSE SPLIT BETWEEN NON
JEWS IN EUROPE AND AMERICA.

WHILE OF COURSE QUITE FREE THEMSELVES TO ASSOCIATE WITH THEIR FELLOW JEWS IN
Germany, EUROPE AND ARAB COUNTRIES.

Soviet Union 25,568,000
China 11,324,000
Germany 7,060,000
Poland 6,850,000
Japan 1,806,000
Yugoslavia 1,700,000
Rumania 985,000
France 810,000
Austria 525,000
Italy 410,000
Great Britain 388,000
USA 295,000
Holland 250,000
Belgium 85,000
Finland 79,000
Canada 42,000
India 36,000
Australia 29,000
Albania 28,000
Spain 22,000
Bulgaria 21,000
New Zealand 12,000
Norway 10,000
South Africa 9,000
Luxembourg 5,000
Denmark 4,000

Fees for evac.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/18/lebanon.evacuation/

Right-Wing Attacks American Evacuees: 'Ingrates,' 'Whining,' 'Spoiled-Rotten
Little Children' Not that the right wing is heavily populated by
jews/zionists
Israel's original sin
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/Aug102005/editpage162334200589.asp

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Palestine/kidnap.htm

"At a daily rate of $8.10, hospitalized troops, including those wounded in
Iraq and Afghanistan, are being charged for their meals

http://www.antiwar.com/barganier/ba091503.html

UN urges Israel halt 'violations'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5154594.stm

GENEVA - A UN human rights expert on Wednesday criticized the United States,
European Union, Russia and the United Nations for ignoring countless Israeli
violations of human rights, international law and other standards.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/735109.html

Apparently they should be as happy as they are that their fellow israelis
are bombing them. The chickenhawks now showing their brave side.

http://pseudojournalist.blogspot.com/2006/07/americans-trapped-in-lebanon.html

The Bush administration's evacuation of Americans in Lebanon has been
disorganized and lagged behind the efforts of other countries. As of
yesterday, only a few thousand had been able to evacuate, and they departed
"two days after the first Europeans left on ships." Denmark, for example,
"evacuated more than 4,000 of its citizens" by Thursday.

Conservatives have reacted to this incompetence by attacking the evacuees:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/right-wing-evacuees/

http://gmroper.mu.nu/archives/187407.php

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/07/americans_trapp.html

http://pseudojournalist.blogspot.com/2006/07/americans-trapped-in-lebanon.html

KILLINGS AT A BEACH PICNIC.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/israeli_artillery_kills_seven_members_of_a_palestinian_family_Jun_10_2006.html

Lebanon

http://lebanonheartblogs.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-strong-pictures.html

"At a daily rate of $8.10, hospitalized troops, including those wounded in
Iraq and Afghanistan, are being charged for their meals

http://www.antiwar.com/barganier/ba091503.html

UN urges Israel halt 'violations'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5154594.stm

GENEVA - A UN human rights expert on Wednesday criticized the United States,
European Union, Russia and the United Nations for ignoring countless Israeli
violations of human rights, international law and other standards.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/735109.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14029827/

BEIRUT, Lebanon - An Israeli bomb destroyed a U.N. observer post on the
border in southern Lebanon Tuesday, killing three observers and leaving
another feared dead,

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1947UN181.html

Resolution 181
http://www.mideastweb.org/181.htm

http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html#thewall

A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel" Here is a list of UN resolutions
that Israel has not complied with, far more than Iraq. Note that she has
also illegally developed nuclear weapons. Further, the situation is far
worse than would at first appear, it involves the serious distortion of the
official Security Council record by the profligate use by the United States
of its veto power. (See Table) Israel's, defiance goes back to its very
beginnings. This collection of resolutions criticizing Israel is unmatched
by the record of any other nation as Israel stands in violation of more UN
resolutions than ANY OTHER NATION ON EARTH.

A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel" 1955-1992: *
Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid". *
Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed
fifty-six people". * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends
it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem". *
Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions". *
Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its
attack on Syria". Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack
on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control". *
Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967
Palestinian refugees". Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its
massive attack on Karameh in Jordan". *
Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military
parade in Jerusalem". *
Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in
Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250". *
Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem
as Jewish capital". *
Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant
violation". * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept
UN mission to probe occupation". *
Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport". *
Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in
Jordan". * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts
to change the status of Jerusalem". *
Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in
southern Lebanon". *
Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions
on Jerusalem". *
Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from
Lebanon". * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against
Lebanon". *
Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form
Lebanon". * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the
status of Jerusalem". * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop
attacks against Lebanon". * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for
repeated attacks on Lebanon". * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's
refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon". *
Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against
Lebanon". * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating
Lebanon's sovereignty". * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks
on Lebanon". *
Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from
Lebanon". * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its
withdrawal from Lebanon. * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack
of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces". *
Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva
Convention". *
Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon". *
Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in
occupied territories". *
Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
states not to assist Israel's settlements program". *
Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention
in Lebanon". * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal
expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their
return". *
Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
council's order not to deport Palestinians". *
Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to
abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention". *
Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are
'null and void'". * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the
strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'". *
Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re- admit two
deported Palestinian mayors". *
Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
nuclear facility". *
Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision
forthwith". *
Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon". *
Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon
and withdraw its troops". *
Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith
and unconditionally from Lebanon". *
Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
allow food supplies to be brought in". *
Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon". *
Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces
in Lebanon". *
Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut". *
Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
in attack on PLO headquarters. *
Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw". *
Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian
students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops". *
Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
denying the human rights of Palestinians. *
Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and
strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention. *
Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United
Nations and deported Palestinian civilians". *
Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian
civilians. * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing
deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for
violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount. *
Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the
United Nations. Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of
the deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores'
Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe
and immediate return. *
Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of
Palestinians. * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's
deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for there immediate return.

1993 to 1995UNGA Res 50/21 - The Middle East Peace Process (Dec 12, 1995)
UNGA Res 50/22 - The Situation in the Middle East (Dec 12,

1995) UNGA Res 49/35 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995)
lUNGA Res 49/36 - Human Rights of Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995) UNGA
Res 49/62 - Question of Palestine (Feb 3 1995) UNGA Res 49/78 - Nuclear
Proliferation in Mideast (Jan 11 1995) UNGA Res 49/87 - Situation in the
Middle East (Feb 7 1995) UNGA Res 49/88 - The Middle East Peace Process (Feb
7 1995) UNGA Res 49/149- Palestinian Right- Self-Determination (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 48/213 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Mar 15, 1994) UNGA Res
48/40 - UNRWA for Palestinian Refugees (Dec 13, 1993) UNGA Res 48/41 - Human
Rights in the Territories (Dec 10 1993) UNGA Res 48/58 - The Middle East
Peace Process (Dec 14 1993) UNGA Res 48/59 - The Situation in the Middle
East (Dec 14 1993) UNGA Res 48/71 - Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in Mideast (Dec
16 1993) UNGA Res 48/78 - Israeli Nuclear Armament (Dec 16 1993) UNGA Res
48/94 - Self-Determination & Independence (Dec 20 1993) UNGA Res 48/124-
Non-interference in Elections (Dec 20 1993) UNGA Res 48/158- Question of
Palestine (Dec 20 1993) UNGA Res 48/212- Repercussions of Israeli
Settlements (Dec 21 1993) ==========+++===========

U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel (1972-2002)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----
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Vetoes: 1972-1982 Subject Date & Meeting US Rep Casting Veto Vote Palestine:
Syrian-Lebanese Complaint. 3 power draft resolution 2/10784 9/10/1972 Bush
13-1, 1 Palestine: Examination of Middle East Situation. 8-power draft
resolution (S/10974) 7/2/1973 Scali 13-1, 0 (China not partic.) Palestine:
Egyptian-Lebanese Complaint. 5-power draft power resolution (S/11898)
12/8/1975 Moynihan 13-1, 1 Palestine: Middle East Problem, including
Palestinian question. 6- power draft resolution (S/11940) 1/26/1976 Moynihan
9-1,3 (China & Libya not partic.) Palestine: Situation in Occupied Arab
Territories. 5-power draft resolution (S/12022) 3/25/1976 Scranton 14-1,0
Palestine: Report on Committee on Rights of Palestinian People. 4- power
draft resolution (S/121119) 6/29/1976 Sherer 10-1,4 Palestine: Palestinian
Rights. Tunisian draft resolution. (S/13911) 4/30/1980 McHenry 10-1,4
Palestine: Golan Heights. Jordan draft resolution. (S/14832/Rev. 2)
1/20/1982 Kirkpatrick 9-1,5 Palestine: Situation in Occupied Territories,
Jordan draft resolution (S/14943) 4/2/1982 Lichenstein 13-1,1 Palestine:
Incident at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. 4-power draft resolution
4/20/1982 Kirpatrick 14-1, 0 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. Spain draft
resolution. (S/15185) 6/8/1982 Kirpatrick 14-1,0 Palestine: Conflict in
Lebanon. France draft resolution. (S/15255/Rev. 2) 6/26/1982 Lichenstein
14-1 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. USSR draft resolution. (S/15347/Rev. 1,
as orally amended) 8/6/1982 Lichenstein 11-1,3 Palestine: Situation in
Occupied Territories, 20-power draft resolution (S/15895) 8/2/1983
Lichenstein 13-1,1 Security Council Vetoes/Negative voting 1983-present
Subject Date Vote Occupied Arab Territories: Wholesale condemnation of
Israeli settlement policies - not adopted 1983 S. Lebanon: Condemns Israeli
action in southern Lebanon. S/16732 9/6/1984 Vetoed: 13-1 (U.S.), with 1
abstention (UK) Occupied Territories: Deplores "repressive measures" by
Israel against Arab population. S/19459. 9/13/1985 Vetoed: 10-1 (U.S.), with
4 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK, France) Lebanon: Condemns Israeli
practices against civilians in southern Lebanon. S/17000. 3/12/1985 Vetoed:
11-1 (U.S.), with 3 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK) Occupied
Territories: Calls upon Israel to respect Muslim holy places. S/17769/Rev. 1
1/30/1986 Vetoed: 13-1 (US), with one abstention (Thailand) Lebanon:
Condemns Israeli practices against civilians in southern Lebanon.
S/17730/Rev. 2. 1/17/1986 Vetoed: 11-1 (U.S.), with 3 abstentions
(Australia, Denmark, UK) Libya/Israel: Condemns Israeli interception of
Libyan plane. S/17796/Rev. 1. 2/6/1986 Vetoed: 10 -1 (US), with 4
abstentions (Australia, Denmark, France, UK) Lebanon: Draft strongly
deplored repeated Israeli attacks against Lebanese territory and other
measures and practices against the civilian population; (S/19434) 1/18/1988
vetoed 13-1 (US), with 1 abstention (UK) Lebanon: Draft condemned recent
invasion by Israeli forces of Southern Lebanon and Draft condemned recent
invasion by Israeli forces of Southern Lebanon and repeated a call for the
immediate withdrawal of all Israeli forces from Lebanese territory;
(S/19868) 5/10/1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Lebanon: Draft strongly deplored the
recent Israeli attack against Lebanese territory on 9 December 1988;
(S/20322) 12/14/1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Draft called on
Israel to accept de jure applicability of the 4th Geneva Convention;
(S/19466) 1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Draft urged Israel to
abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention, rescind the order to deport
Palestinian civilians, and condemned policies and practices of Israel that
violate the human rights of the Palestinian people in the occupied
territories; (S/19780) 1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Strongly
deplored Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories, and
strongly deplored also Israel's continued disregard of relevant Security
Council decisions. 2/17/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories:
Condemned Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories.
6/9/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Deplored Israel's policies
and practices in the occupied territories. 11/7/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US)
Occupied territories: NAM draft resolution to create a commission and send
three security council members to Rishon Lezion, where an Israeli gunmen
shot down seven Palestinian workers. 5/31/1990 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East:
Confirms that the expropriation of land by Israel in East Jerusalem is
invalid and in violation of relevant Security Council resolutions and
provisions of the Fourth Geneva convention; expresses support of peace
process, including the Declaration of Principles of 9/13/1993 5/17/1995
Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East: Calls upon Israeli authorities to refrain from
all actions or measures, including settlement activities. 3/7/1997 Vetoed
14-1 (US) Middle East: Demands that Israel cease construction of the
settlement in east Jerusalem (called Jabal Abu Ghneim by the Palestinians
and Har Homa by Israel), as well as all the other Israeli settlement
activity in the occupied territories 3/21/1997 Vetoed 13-1,1 (US) Call for
UN Observers Force in West Bank, Gaza 3/27/2001 Vetoed 9-1 (US), with four
abstentions (Britain, France, Ireland and Norway) Condemned acts of terror,
demanded an end to violence and the establishment of a monitoring mechanism
to bring in observers. 12/15/2001 Vetoed 12-1 (US) with two abstentions
(Britain and Norway) Source: U.S. State Department

WAR CRIMES


Israel accused Friday, 3 November, 2000 - Israel has always sought to escape
responsibility for what was done in Khiam

OPENING GRAVE WOUNDS / EVIDENCE OF ISRAELI ATROCITIES DURING THE 1967 WAR
WITH EGYPT THREATENS THE COUNTRIES' FRAGILE TIES FREDERICK PAINTON REPORTED
BY AMANY RADWAN/CAIRO AND ERIC SILVER/JERUSALEM - The fury aroused in Egypt
by the apparent proof of massacres was fueled by the press, which matched
wartime photos with imaginative illustrations showing Egyptian soldiers
surrendering, being ordered to dig their graves, then being executed.

"The saving of the Jews in Europe did not figure at the head of the list of
priorities of the ruling class. It was the foundation of the State which was
primordial in their eyes."
http://www.al-shia.com/html/eng/books/miscelleneous/the-founding-myths-of-israeli-politics/part3.htm

"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.


The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died in
German work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.
Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hunger
caused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of her
infrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realize
that
the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942 until
the end of the war.
That office never reported or recorded any atrocities (Several years ago
international Jewry forced the Red Cross to apologize to the Jews -
apologize for not seeing something that never happened.)

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation
as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that
food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German
transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on
March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter
Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German
Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation
system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany
were becoming inevitable.

repo

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> news:e40c0a5a-cfcc-415c...@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com...http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_4_muslim_terror.html

> (click on link for All information)
>
> Of course there would not be muslim terror if israel cleaned up it's act,


Muslims have "issues" with Buddist, Hindus, Christians,
Blacks in African, and anyone that is non-Muslim, and Isreal.

Everyone is getting slaughtered or dhimmied by Islam

*us*

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Bush and Cheney are the terrorists.

*us*

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Bush and Cheney are America's problem.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:28:53 -0700 (PDT), repo <kcaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>... have "issues" ...

You sure do, bushfilth.

Why do you hate America?

simple.lan...@gmail.com

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“Muslims who share the same goals as Osama bin Laden but are pursuing
them through non-violent means are celebrated by gullible Westerners
as moderates.” - Robert Spencer

* US * = invalid profile = notorious Muslim troll hiding his IP
address

God versus a can of tuna

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> wartime. Because most Americans view the ...
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These events should be a warning to any religious group, Christian or
otherwise, that they don't have a right to force their belief system
upon others.

These are dangerous times. Not just the danger of terrorists killing
and maiming innocent citizens but also the danger of America
dissolving parts of the Constitution out of fear. I hope that there
are enough heroic individuals who are willing to stand up to those who
would destroy our liberties and rights so that they can feel a tad
more safe. Let us keep the cowards away from the levers of power.

*us*

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Muslims simply happen to own the oil that
the terrorists Bush and Cheney want to steal.

repo

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We must suspend most legal immigration from the
middle eastern countries known to subsidize of tolerate
terrorism...Agreed.

Review all current visas and search out and deport violators.

Continue to audit carefully the arrivals of middle eastern nationls.

br...@pobox.com

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:28:53 -0700 (PDT), repo <kcaj...@yahoo.com>
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>On Aug 16, 1:58 pm, "Prince Andy" <a...@home.com> wrote:

He's only missing one fact. He doesn't realise that you're a CRIMINAL
MEXICAN PISS-ON whose motivation is to divert attention from your
smuggling on the southern border.

repo

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> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:28:53 -0700 (PDT), repo <kcajy...@yahoo.com>

Maggot led-bottom aka pachuco aka po box
posts, "knowing a few U.S. citizens". So tell
us what country you're from?

Islamist country?

ßDoüg±Ç

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"God versus a can of tuna" <goof...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:52edab42-46e4-45dc-9db2-

These events should be a warning to any religious group, Christian or
otherwise, that they don't have a right to force their belief system
upon others.

These are dangerous times. Not just the danger of terrorists killing
and maiming innocent citizens but also the danger of America
dissolving parts of the Constitution out of fear. I hope that there
are enough heroic individuals who are willing to stand up to those who
would destroy our liberties and rights so that they can feel a tad
more safe. Let us keep the cowards away from the levers of power.

*********************
In Canada, Mark Steyn was recently prosecuted under a hate
crimes statute for penning a book critical of Islam. He has
now left his native Canada for the USA.

Muslims are ethnically cleansing non-muslims all over the
world even as we speak (e.g. Nigeria, Sudan/Darfur, Indonesia,
Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Bethleham). In places like Saudi Barbaria,
they have succeeded as no other faith is legally allowed in Saudi
Barbaria save islam.


ßDoüg±Ç

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*********************************
I think the only solution is to outlaw islam in decent countries --
otherwise, once islam is the majority, it will all be moot.


br...@pobox.com

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT), repo <kcaj...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 17, 4:50 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:

You know very well what country I'm from, CRIMINAL MEXICAN PISS-ON.
It's just that you don'thave enough manhood to admit it, son of a
whore.

*us*

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The harm to the USA has been done by Bush and Cheney.

*us*

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He's not normal or healthy, the poor bushfilth.

*us*

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Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.

repo

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On Aug 18, 1:44 pm, * US * wrote:
> Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.

See the video below to see terrorists in the USofA.

American Muslim leader Khalid Abdul Muhammad speaks about whites (2
minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJh_mNXPw-E

The real Islam revealed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qRwv39YCk

Muslims in America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ

Young Talib beheads Ghulam Nabi: http://tinyurl.com/2rb2e3

Why Muslims can't leave Islam (2 min. video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP1sviJ_7BQ

More on Islamists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU


Obsession - Radical Islam's War Against the West:
(best parts, 11 minutes) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76STxsWJCCE
(rest, about 80 minutes): http://europenews.dk/en/node/5811
Wafa Sultan speaks about Islam (old but good):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohIzs6xvfE

*us*

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Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.

They should be sent to the Hague.

repo

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On Aug 18, 2:00 pm, repo <kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 18, 1:44 pm, * US * wrote:
>
> > Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.
>
> See the video below to see terrorists in the USofA.
>
> American Muslim leader Khalid Abdul Muhammad speaks about whites (2
> minutes):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJh_mNXPw-E
>
> The real Islam revealed:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qRwv39YCk
>
> Muslims in America:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ
>
> Young Talib beheads Ghulam Nabi:http://tinyurl.com/2rb2e3
>
> Why Muslims can't leave Islam (2 min. video):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP1sviJ_7BQ
>
> More on Islamistshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU

>
> Obsession - Radical Islam's War Against the West:
> (best parts, 11 minutes)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76STxsWJCCE

> (rest, about 80 minutes):  http://europenews.dk/en/node/5811
> Wafa Sultan speaks about Islam (old but good):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohIzs6xvfE

Wake up America

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Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.

They should be sent to the Hague.

It help the USA regain some credibility.

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Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.

They should be sent to the Hague.

It'd help the USA regain some credibility.

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