LOOKS LIKE OBAMA MAY NOT BE A "NATURAL" BORN CITIZEN

[GeekBoy]

By Jon Christian Dryer

October 3, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the
federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in the
matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the world was
distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis. Obama signed a
breathe of relief as the mainstream media chose to ignore the question:
"Can Senator Barack Hussein Obama legally seek the office of President
of the United States?"

The flap began in June when National Review's Jim Geraghty raised the
question and asked the Obama Campaign to release a copy of his birth
certificate in order to prove that he actually was born in the United
States. (Reports had previously surfaced claiming that Obama's Kenyan
grandmother, Sarah Hussein Obama, told reporters that Obama was not born
in Hawaii, but in Kenya. She reportedly told reporters that when her
son, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. returned to Kenya he was accompanied by a
pregnant white wife who was close to term.)

Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama well according
to Sarah Obama because she was white. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya
Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she did not like how
Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near
term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her
baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby was born in Kenya and that
shortly after Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born, Stanley Ann returned
to Hawaii.

Purportedly, when she arrived back in Hawaii, Stanley Anne registered
her son's live birth as an event which had just happened-in Hawaii. This
supposition is based on the appearance, shortly after Nov. 6, 2007, of a
Hawaiian birth certificate that was issued, as a duplicate birth
certificate, by the State of Hawaii to a US Senator who requested it.

While the Internet screamed that the birth certificate, which appeared
on the Obama Campaign's "Fight The Smears" website and was also
downloaded and used by far left blogger Markos Zuniga on his website,
Daily Kos, it was not an electronic image concocted by Daily KOs as was
hypothesized by a self-described cyvbersleuth who uses the cyber
pseudonym Techdude. It was the real McCoy-even if it was issued as a
political favor to a prospective Democratic presidential candidate by a
Democrat official in Hawaii. The county clerk who issued the document,
which purports to be a copy of an original document, was date stamped
"Nov. 6, 2007" on the reverse side of the birth certificate in blue ink
which bled through and is visible on the front of the electronic image.

Attorney Philip J. Berg, the former head of the Montgomery County.
Pennsylvania Democratic Party and a former member of the Democratic
State Convention and, reportedly a Hillary Clinton supporter, wanted to
learn the truth from the myriad of rumors that also suggested that Sen.
Obama may also have been a citizen of Indonesia. The only consistent
part of the story was Stanley Ann returning to Hawaii to claim he had
been in the United States and was a US citizen. In his ruling, Judge
Surrick noted that the "...cause came before the United States District
Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick on defendant Barack Hussein
Obama and the Democratic National Committee's motion to dismiss." The
order continued, "Having reviewed the motion and plaintiff's opposition
to said motion and for good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that the
motion to dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is denied.
It is further order of this court that the following discovery is to be
turned over to plaintiff within three (3) days.

1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long
version) birth certificate; and 2. a certified copy of Obama's
Certificate of Citizenship; 3. a certified copy of Obama's oath of
allegiance."

In his original filing, Berg specifically asked for those three items.
Berg told the court that "...at the time Plaintiff's complaint was
filed, Plaintiff was requesting protections from the court in order to
stop Obama from being nominated by the DNC as the Democratic
Presidential Nominee as Obama is not eligible to serve as President of
the United States. However, Obama was nominated by the DNC...For that
reason, Plaintiff must amend his complaint and will be amending this
complaint to file a First Amendment complaint...."

Berg argued that he felt it was the role of the Federal Election
Commission to ensure that presidential and congressional candidates are
eligible to hold the positions for which they were seeking, and that
those candidates run a fair and legitimate campaign. "In vetting the
presidential candidate," Berg argued, "the DNC and the FEC are required
to ensure the eligibility requirements pursuant to our Constitution are
met and the Presidential nominee, if elected, is qualified and eligible
to serve pursuant to our United States Constitution. In order to be
eligible to run for the Office of President of the United States, you
must be a "natural born" citizen.

"There appears to be no question that Defendant Obama's mother, Stanley
Ann Dunham, was a US citizen. It is also undisputed, however, that his
father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a citizen of Kenya. Obama's parents,
according to divorce recorded, were married on or about February 2,
1961.

"Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. on August 4,
1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born.
Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and
half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. reports
reflect that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy;
however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii.
at her late stage of pregnancy (which apparently are normal
restrictions, to avoid births during flights). By these reports, Stanley
Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home
and registered Obama's birth. There are records of a "registry of birth"
for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in
Hawaii."

Berg's investigators revealed that Obama's own half-sister Maya
Soetoro-with whom he was raised-seemed not to know where her own brother
was born. In the Nov., 2004 interview by the Rainbow Newsletter Maya
Soetoro said Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961 at Queens Medical Center in
Honolulu, Hawaii. In February, 2008 Maya was interviewed by the Star
Bulletin. This time she told reporters that Obama was born on August 4,
1961 at the Kaliolani Medical Center for Women and Children. On June 9,
2008 Wayne Madsen, a journalist with Online Journal published an article
in which he said a research team went to Mombassa, Kenya and located a
Certificate registering the live birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. to
his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a US citizen.

Berg's argument to the court was that under the US Nationality Act of
1940, Section 317 (b), a minor child follows the naturalization and
citizenship status of his or her custodial parent. In Obama's case, Berg
argued, a minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship status
of his or her custodial father. Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo
Soetora signed a statement acknowledging Obama as his son, giving Obama
natural Indonesian citizenship, which explains the name "Barry Soetoro"
and his citizenship listed as Indonesian. Loss of US citizenship, under
US law in effect in 1967 required that foreign citizenship be achieved
through "application." Which, according to Berg, is precisely what
happened to Obama when his mother married Soetoro and the family moved
to Indonesia.

When Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia, Obama had already been
enrolled in school-something that could not have happened under
Indonesian law if Soetoro had not signed an acknowledgment (the
application) affirming that Obama was his son, it deemed his son to an
Indonesian State citizen. (Citizenship of Republic of Indonesia, Law No.
9 of 1992 dated 31 mar. 1992, Indonesia Civil Code): "...State children
of Indonesia include: (viii) children who are born outside of legal
marriage from foreign State citizen mother who are acknowledged by
father who is Indonesian State citizen as his children and that
acknowledgment is made prior to children reaching 18 years of age or
prior to marriage; Republic of Indonesia Constitution, 1945."
Furthermore, under Indonesian law, if a resident Indonesian citizen
married a foreigner-in this case, Lolo Soetoro marrying Stanley Ann
Obama-she was required to renounce her US citizenship.

In his lawsuit, Berg demanded a copy of Obama's Certificate of
Citizenship, a document Obama must have applied for to regain his
citizenship-which was lost in Indonesia. He will have that document only
if the proper paperwork was filed with the US State Department when
Obama returned to Hawaii in 1971 since that is the only way Obama could
regain his US "natural born" status. Berg is convinced that Obama was
never naturalized in the United States after his return. Obama returned
to his maternal grandparents in Hawaii without his mother. Since she is
the only one who could have filed for the reinstatement of his
citizenship, it is unlikely it ever happened. If it did, his Certificate
of Citizenship would affirm his right to seek the office of President.
Without it, Barack Obama is just another resident alien who can't
legally hold his seat in the US Senate.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon252.htm

[Don Gabacho]

On Oct 3, 2:20 pm, "GeekBoy" <nerd_reve...@nerdythree.net> wrote:
> By Jon Christian Dryer
>
> October 3, 2008
>
> NewsWithViews.com
>
> On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the
> federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in the
> matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the world was
> distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis. Obama signed a

> breath of relief as the mainstream media chose to ignore the question:

And who would be the Senator who requested the duplicate birth
certificate be?

[charles bash]

Excellent post, by geekboy. Although much of the important material has
been posted here by various contributors, including myself, this
NewsWithViews dispatch of this date, is a really Excellent Wrapup,
citing the applicable laws, paragraph by paragraph, till we hear
further.

I called the Courthouse this afternoon, { Friday} again, but
unfortunately I was late on a {busy , apparently} Friday afternoon, so I
was switched to a voice mail at which I left a message. But this sucker
a Mr Leech, has failed to call me back on a Friday previously. So I
will go into next week on this.

Denial of the "Motion To Dismiss" was a Wonderful Development. This
fantastic case is Going Foreward! I am attempting to find the date of
the Court Hearing in this matter, with Obama and Berg testifying.
~ jezizz, what next? ~
C. Bash

~ I will be all "pins and needles" when I am riding the Market Street
subway down to that Courthouse in Philly ~ the same subway I rode to
high school, five days a week, for 4 years. ~

[johnny@.]

GeekBoy wrote:
> By Jon Christian Dryer
>
> October 3, 2008
>

NewsWithViews.com

On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the
federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in the

matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama,...

Cut!

"Having reviewed the motion and plaintiff's opposition
to said motion and for good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that the
motion to dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is denied.
It is further order of this court that the following discovery is to be
turned over to plaintiff within three (3) days.

1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long
version) birth certificate; and 2. a certified copy of Obama's
Certificate of Citizenship; 3. a certified copy of Obama's oath of
allegiance."

Has the information been turned over to Berg?

>
> http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon252.htm
>
>

[Passerby]

"Don Gabacho" <jpas...@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
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Whatever.

Snopes

"Native Son"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

Factcheck.org

Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: August 26, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.

http://tinyurl.com/6n9zka

"Does Barack Obama Have Kenyan Citizenship?"

http://tinyurl.com/5pz7k3

[Comm]

PHEW - but for more PHEW - check this out

http://www.erectuswalksamongst.us

"GeekBoy" <nerd_r...@nerdythree.net> wrote in message
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[jisseigh]

"LOOKS LIKE OBAMA MAY NOT BE A "NATURAL" BORN CITIZEN"

You laughable McFudd and Daffi Dumb Shit fans need to work in another
useless and tired anti-Obama gotcha.

Try the Rezko thing again ...

And if that fails, again, you can always resort to blatant racism.

[mtnw...@gmail.com]

On Oct 3, 2:20 pm, "GeekBoy" <nerd_reve...@nerdythree.net> wrote:

Nice try. The judge DID NOT RULE. The idiot that posted this article
read from the Request for an Order submitted by the Plaintiff. There
has been no ruling in this case and the chances for Berg winning are
slim and none and slim left town.

[GeekBoy]

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania - 10/06/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the
Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama's
lack of "qualifications" to serve as President of the United States,
announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a
Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on
the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08.

While legal, Berg stated he is "outraged as this is another attempt to hide
the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to
prove that Obama is qualified to be President." The case is Berg v. Obama,
No. 08-cv-04083.

Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by
attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving
the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications
to be President.

It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the
"qualifications" to be President of the United States pursuant to our United
States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his "Vault"
[original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not
exist.

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For an analysis and, in some cases, contrary view of the Berg
allegations, visit www.whatsyourevidence.com.