pre-murdering words of Fort Hood shooter
FACE
said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
FACE
Maria
and far between that they can't do any real harm...
White Spirit
> FACE wrote:
Yeah, it's not like they've managed to kill anyone yet. Everyone should
stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
DVH
"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
news:4cl8f5dd73eaom5d1...@4ax.com...
> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik Hassan
> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
Are they making a connection with the guy who shot five British MPs?
Farmer Giles
> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
>
Not to worry. We are assured by some of his former colleagues that was 'NOT
an extremist'!
Thank God for that - otherwise who knows WHAT he might have done!
FrereTuck
what like a rabbi blessing shells and bombs to be targeted at civilians
you mean.
charles bash
Obama's first statement on this horrific event:: "the whole nation is
grieving right now."
He urged people "not to Jump to Conclusions, until law enforcement
gathers the facts".
The Enemy Within tries to soothe the population not to get unduly
alarmed. But there is Due Alarm out there!! And with good reason! Where
is President Biden when we need him??
He is just Biden ,,, err Biding his time!
C. Bash
~ Tick -- Tick -- Tick -- Tick ~ Tick -- Tick ~
Djornsk
Considering the harm done by the murderers of British servicemen and
Afghani/Iraqi civilians, "these loons" are no worse than the murderers
who never get splattered in blood, ie those found in Washington and London!
j
William Black
Well the first picture has them writing stuff in English, which I don't
think they use there.
The second one looks like a normal Sabbath service with the hand written
scrolls and ten blokes and all the rest of it.
The third one looks a bit odd as the prayer shawl hasn't any fringes and
ultra orthodox Jews who dress like that always wear a beard.
Number four is an obvious fake, one of the ram's horn blowers isn't
wearing a prayer shawl, which I think is a requirement to blow the
thing, and no drums are used in Jewish services.
Then there's a picture of a bloke lifting a 8" shell by himself,
obviously a demonstration dummy.
So all the 'Jews' look like they're either going about their lawful
business or are fakes...
The rest is the usual Palivision casualty snaps that everyone's seen
before, at least a dozen times...
Nope, it's all bollocks, but keep on trying son, you're giving me a
laugh on a cold wet evening...
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
FACE
<no...@invalid.com>, wrote
No, asshole fuckwit, I did not mean like that at all.
You do realize that you are a worthless piece of shit on the usenet
highway, do you not?
FACE
<oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
Good to know that some think it's OK.
Twelve dead, 30 injured (last report) that would be about 336 immediate
family members adversely affected and 2600 extended family members
adversely affected (probably a lowball estimate on the extended family.)
Glad to know that is "no real harm".
FACE
Uncle Dave
Um, he just happened to be a Muslim, rather more important is that
he's a yank living in a country where the right to kill your fellow
citizens is "enshrined in the constitution".
Allah, Jesus, Lord God fucking Almighty, it's all the same to the
victims...
UD
Straightarrow
We should consider ourselves lucky that the perp wasn't a white
christian shouting "PRAISE THE LORD" !!! before he started shooting.
Isn't there some way we can blame Bush for the mindset of this poor
innocent muslim??
Maria
> On Nov 6, 5:32 pm, White Spirit <wspi...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
>> Maria wrote:
>>> FACE wrote:
>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>>> Hassan
>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
>>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
>>> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>> Yeah, it's not like they've managed to kill anyone yet. Everyone should
>> stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
>
> Um, he just happened to be a Muslim,
So if he murdered these people because he, as a Muslim, thought they
deserved it, then it isn't that he 'just happened to be a Muslim' is it?
>rather more important is that
> he's a yank living in a country where the right to kill your fellow
> citizens is "enshrined in the constitution".
>
> Allah, Jesus, Lord God fucking Almighty, it's all the same to the
> victims...
Yes it is - it isn't all the same to the perps though is it?
Straightarrow
It's ok until one of the resident usenet apologetic "loons" becomes a
victim of some radical muslim terrorist. Then it's time to round up
every muslim,ship them out of the country then nuke Mecca.
Maria
No worse doesn't make them better.
The longer we are in those places, the more of this kind of incident is
going to occur because they think they have something to gain.
Uncle Dave
Perps, schmerps, burps. Yanks. Loonies, the lot of them regardless
of race, creed, colour or [insert your favourite demographic here].
UD
Lou Ravi
Well actually, to be honest on the matter, it must be admitted that
Muslims have killed nowhere near as many people as Christians have,
albeit not necessarily in the direct name of Christianity. There are
more than a milliard (that's what ignorant people call a billion)
Muslims in the world. They have probably killed about 10,000 people at
the very most since WWII during 'acts of war'. Quid 'Christians' such as
Bush and Blair?
Svenne
wrote:
Aren't all those family members and extended family members....oh,
now, what's the term? Oh Yes, "collateral damage" or whatever it is
called when the Americans incinerate people at wedding parties and the
like.
Svenne
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
I see an interesting tactic emerging.
Join the army of the enemy, and shoot him in the back.
Seems to be working well in Afghanistan, and is the reason why a
national Afghan army will not be doing much.
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
FACE
<d...@vhvhvhvh.com>, wrote
I am not familiar with that, assuming that by MPs you mean 'Members of
Parliament'.
William Black
> FACE wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:19 +0000, in alt.politics, Maria
>> <oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
>>> FACE wrote:
>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>>> Hassan
>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>
>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>>> religiously.............
>>>>
>>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so
>>> few and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>
>> Good to know that some think it's OK.
>>
>> Twelve dead, 30 injured (last report) that would be about 336 immediate
>> family members adversely affected and 2600 extended family members
>> adversely affected (probably a lowball estimate on the extended family.)
>> Glad to know that is "no real harm".
>>
>> FACE
>>
>
> I see an interesting tactic emerging.
> Join the army of the enemy, and shoot him in the back.
> Seems to be working well in Afghanistan, and is the reason why a
> national Afghan army will not be doing much.
The people doing the shooting in the back in Afghanistan weren't
soldiers, they were cops.
FACE
<david...@t-online.de>, wrote
There are idiots and then there are malevolent lying idiots. You appear
to be the latter.
Chris X
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hd1tb6$54e$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> FACE wrote:
>>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:19 +0000, in alt.politics, Maria
>>> <oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
>>>> FACE wrote:
>>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>>>> Hassan
>>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>>
>>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>>>> religiously.............
>>>>>
>>>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so
>>>> few and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>>
>>> Good to know that some think it's OK.
>>>
>>> Twelve dead, 30 injured (last report) that would be about 336 immediate
>>> family members adversely affected and 2600 extended family members
>>> adversely affected (probably a lowball estimate on the extended family.)
>>> Glad to know that is "no real harm".
>>>
>>> FACE
>>>
>>
>> I see an interesting tactic emerging.
>> Join the army of the enemy, and shoot him in the back.
>> Seems to be working well in Afghanistan, and is the reason why a national
>> Afghan army will not be doing much.
>
> The people doing the shooting in the back in Afghanistan weren't soldiers,
> they were cops.
Afghani-Nam's army/pig force both = puppets of the Zionazi occupiers, so
Dirk has hit the nail on the head.
DVH
A trainee Afghan policeman went gonzo and killed five unarmed military
police. I thought there might be a connection...
FACE
<djo...@gmail.com>, wrote
Not knowing your nationality, i will use as an allegory something that
most people in the Western Hemisphere can relate to -- Wellington of
'Wellington's Victory' aka as 'Waterloo' once sent his men into battle in
Belgium. He is venerated by most for that. There are statues of him,
etc. He did not get blood spattered there or lead his troops into battle.
Do you consider him a loon and a murderer?
The question has a Yes/No answer. Give one of those.
FACE
<tvaer...@aol.com>, wrote
I see that you, clough, are still a blithering idiot. How is your bucket
of red herrings? Full as usual?
FACE
NeoPax <dirk....@gmail.com>, wrote
>FACE wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:19 +0000, in alt.politics, Maria
>> <oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
>>
>>> FACE wrote:
>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik Hassan
>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>
>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
>>>>
>>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
>>> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>
>> Good to know that some think it's OK.
>>
>> Twelve dead, 30 injured (last report) that would be about 336 immediate
>> family members adversely affected and 2600 extended family members
>> adversely affected (probably a lowball estimate on the extended family.)
>>
>> Glad to know that is "no real harm".
>>
>> FACE
>>
>
>I see an interesting tactic emerging.
>Join the army of the enemy, and shoot him in the back.
>Seems to be working well in Afghanistan, and is the reason why a
>national Afghan army will not be doing much.
Thinking on that, i considered Anwar Sadat shot while reviewing a parade,
African Dictators killed by their bodyguards.............. I cannot
think of this "way" of war used in the West prior to this time
though........
(I am sure it has happened at some time though, and i am sure that someone
will triumphantly point that out.)
FACE
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Not much of a distinction, except that the cops are more corrupt.
Now the Taliban have heard how we are shitting ourselves over just one
or two "traitors" I think we will be seeing far more of this in future.
It sure is a cost effective way of killing the enemy.
FACE
<hoofhe...@yahoo.com>, wrote
I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
innocents. One of the murder victims was a pregnant woman, I hear
reported.
BTW, if it *had* been a blonde, blue-eyed Joe Dokes that did it, there
would have been immediate 'conclusion-jumping', which, since it was not,
we are, according to the great o, not supposed to do.
One of the new castratti in interview now is saying that the fact that he
was screaming 'allahu akbar' during his murder spree is not relevant.
It is highly relevant................
FACE
Bert Hyman
<AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
> murdering of innocents.
That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
It's in the book.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
FACE
Ravi" <j.mu...@libertysurf.fr>, wrote
You remain an idiot, aches. (just in case you forgot)
Svenne
wrote:
>I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
>innocents.
George Bush's Christian god just loved the mass slaughter of
innocents.
Svenne
Roger Dewhurst
after WW2.
R
Djornsk
IIUC Maria coined the term loon to refer to perpetrators of isolated off
the wall acts of violence in the west related to the Iraq/Afghanistan
conflicts. Wellington was clearly no loon in that sense. Murderer may
seem a harsh term for the great and mighty, but sending people to their
deaths is a serious business no matter who is doing it, and no matter
what lies are told to justify it.
j
William Black
Wellington certainly did get blood splattered at Waterloo.
Uxbridge: 'By God Sir, I've lost me leg.'
Wellington: 'By God Sir, so you have.'
In fact every one of his personal staff was hit. He was the only man in
the staff group who wasn't hit, although he certainly came under direct
fire at least once.
John Keegan in his book 'The Mask of Command: A Study of Generalship'
goes into Wellington's personal qualities and the circumstances in some
detail, stressing that at Waterloo he was probably the last British
commanding general to expose himself deliberately to enemy fire.
FACE
<d...@vhvhvhvh.com>, wrote
>
>"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
>news:31u8f5504ih255ten...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:32:53 -0000, in alt.politics, "DVH"
>> <d...@vhvhvhvh.com>, wrote
>>
>>>
>>>"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4cl8f5dd73eaom5d1...@4ax.com...
>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>>> Hassan
>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>
>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>>> religiously.............
>>>
>>>Are they making a connection with the guy who shot five British MPs?
>>>
>> I am not familiar with that, assuming that by MPs you mean 'Members of
>> Parliament'.
>>
>
>A trainee Afghan policeman went gonzo and killed five unarmed military
>police. I thought there might be a connection...
>
I have not heard the connection made. There are similarities,
though.......
FACE
<be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>
>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>> murdering of innocents.
>
>That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>
>It's in the book.
The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
Testament'.
Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
celebrated as glory to god.........
Oh, and do point out a parable in the muslim section similar to that of
the Christian "good samaritan".
There are two questions above. Be a champ and address them.......
FACE
<tvaer...@aol.com>, wrote
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:29:46 -0500, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
Got a cite for that, cannabis brain? I hope that in this case, your cite
will be from something other than a palestinian source this time......
Bert Hyman
<AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
><be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>
>>In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>> murdering of innocents.
>>
>>That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>
>>It's in the book.
>
>
> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
> Testament'.
Are you saying that the Christians have completely discarded the entire
Old Testament?
Ariadne
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:13:25 -0500, FACE wrote:
> > According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
> > Hassan said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> > Really heart warming to see someone who works so
> > religiously.............
>
>
> what like a rabbi blessing shells and bombs to be targeted at civilians
> you mean.
Lying as always. Why do you hate
Jews and love Muslim war criminals?
Do you worship at that bunker in Berlin?
FACE
<willia...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
My, my, willy, i'll bet you feel smug now. I mean i am sure that
everyone knows that observing someone has lost their leg, having one's
staff hit and most of all being shot at but not hit, and becoming
"blood-spattered" are one and the same............
Svenne
wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:48:42 +0200, in alt.politics, Svenne
><tvaer...@aol.com>, wrote
>
>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:29:46 -0500, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
>>>innocents.
>>
>>George Bush's Christian god just loved the mass slaughter of
>>innocents.
>Got a cite for that, cannabis brain? I hope that in this case, your cite
>will be from something other than a palestinian source this time......
There aren't many sources less credible than most American sources and
that's counting North Korea, but the facts are in. Bush was a
brainless religionist nut job who unleashed mass murder at the bequest
of the demon he worshipped:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Svenne
FACE
<be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>In news:6m49f5lssi4jq6pu8...@4ax.com FACE
><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>
>> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
>><be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>>
>>>In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>>><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>>> murdering of innocents.
>>>
>>>That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>>
>>>It's in the book.
>>
>>
>> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
>> Testament'.
Restored snipped portion of qualifications and questions:
||Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
||celebrated as glory to god.........
||
||Oh, and do point out a parable in the muslim section similar to that of
||the Christian "good samaritan".
||
||There are two questions above. Be a champ and address them.......
>
>Are you saying that the Christians have completely discarded the entire
>Old Testament?
Ha! Just as I thought!
LOL!!!!!!!!
FACE
Dewhurst <dewh...@wave.co.nz>, wrote
aches thinks he is being 'clever' by his wording...........
Bert Hyman
<AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
> On 06 Nov 2009 21:28:22 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
><be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>
>>In news:6m49f5lssi4jq6pu8...@4ax.com FACE
>><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
>>><be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>>>
>>>>In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>>>><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>>>> murdering of innocents.
>>>>
>>>>That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>>>
>>>>It's in the book.
>>>
>>>
>>> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
>>> Testament'.
> Restored snipped portion of qualifications and questions:
>||Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
>||celebrated as glory to god.........
>||
>||Oh, and do point out a parable in the muslim section similar to that
>||of the Christian "good samaritan".
>||
>||There are two questions above. Be a champ and address them.......
Why do I have to point to anything contained in the "New Testament"?
>>Are you saying that the Christians have completely discarded the
>>entire Old Testament?
>
> Ha! Just as I thought!
>
> LOL!!!!!!!!
Ha? LOL?
Is that supposed to mean something?
Are you saying that the Christians have completely discarded the entire
Old Testament?
Why are you only concerned with something that might (or might not) be
contained in the "New Testament"?
Iconoclast
wrote:
> FACE wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:19 +0000, in alt.politics, Maria
>
> >> FACE wrote:
> >>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik Hassan
> >>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> >>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
>
> >> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
> >> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>
>
> > Twelve dead, 30 injured (last report) that would be about 336 immediate
> > family members adversely affected and 2600 extended family members
> > adversely affected (probably a lowball estimate on the extended family.)
>
> > Glad to know that is "no real harm".
>
> > FACE
>
> I see an interesting tactic emerging.
> Join the army of the enemy, and shoot him in the back.
> Seems to be working well in Afghanistan, and is the reason why a
> national Afghan army will not be doing much.
>
> Dirk
>
> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
THE Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk —
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wonted to,
They are used to the lies I tell.
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy and sell.
The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control —
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.
This was my father's belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf —
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.
-- Rudyard Kipling --
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
> FACE wrote:
>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>> Hassan
>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>
>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
>>
> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
yeah, thankfully religious loons are for the most part all talk.
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
> Maria wrote:
>
>> FACE wrote:
>
>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>> Hassan
>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>> religiously.............
>
>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
>> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>
> Yeah, it's not like they've managed to kill anyone yet. Everyone should
> stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
in my world not one christian ever killed another person also.
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
>
> "FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
> news:4cl8f5dd73eaom5d1...@4ax.com...
>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>> Hassan
>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>
>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
>>
>
> Not to worry. We are assured by some of his former colleagues that was
> 'NOT an extremist'!
>
> Thank God for that - otherwise who knows WHAT he might have done!
hey, he made it through the strict selection process of the US military.
are you talking bad on a US soldier, there? that's really patriotic of
you.
FACE
<be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>In news:nk69f596uffisftkk...@4ax.com FACE
><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>
>> On 06 Nov 2009 21:28:22 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
>><be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>>
>>>In news:6m49f5lssi4jq6pu8...@4ax.com FACE
>>><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
>>>><be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>>>>
>>>>>In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>>>>><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>>>>> murdering of innocents.
>>>>>
>>>>>That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's in the book.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
>>>> Testament'.
>> Restored snipped portion of qualifications and questions:
>>||Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
>>||celebrated as glory to god.........
>>||
>>||Oh, and do point out a parable in the muslim section similar to that
>>||of the Christian "good samaritan".
>>||
>>||There are two questions above. Be a champ and address them.......
>
>
>Why do I have to point to anything contained in the "New Testament"?
I pointedly explained why. Left you speechless, eh? LOL!
>
>
>>>Are you saying that the Christians have completely discarded the
>>>entire Old Testament?
>>
>> Ha! Just as I thought!
>>
>> LOL!!!!!!!!
>
>Ha? LOL?
>
>Is that supposed to mean something?
It means much more than your underhanded attempt. You want to set the
ground rules in your favor. I won't let you. That obviously confuses
you.
>
>Are you saying that the Christians have completely discarded the entire
>Old Testament?
>
>Why are you only concerned with something that might (or might not) be
>contained in the "New Testament"?
I told you already. You can't handle it.
Look, I will put this as simply as possible:
First -- the sect is called "Christian" that is after person referred to
as "The Christ". He has no appearance prior to the New Testament.
Second -- Not even the jews of today practice Mosaic Law. Which is where
you were going.......so predictably.....whether you know that's what it is
called or not. Have the Jews killed any Malachites lately? Seen any Jews
stoned at the city gates recently?
Since I already know your next predictable move, I hope that you will
surprise me...................
Google is ready when you are..................
Yes, bertie, you deserve a hearty
LOL!
FACE
<tvaer...@aol.com>, wrote
cluffie, you are a fucking idiot.
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:46:41 GMT, in alt.politics, FrereTuck
> <no...@invalid.com>, wrote
>
>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:13:25 -0500, FACE wrote:
>>
>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>> Hassan said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>
>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>> religiously.............
>>>
>>>
>>> FACE
>>
>>what like a rabbi blessing shells and bombs to be targeted at civilians
>>you mean.
>>
>>http://www.lebanonfacts.net/imagegallery/2006/2006.htm
>
> No, asshole fuckwit, I did not mean like that at all.
>
> You do realize that you are a worthless piece of shit on the usenet
> highway, do you not?
projection noted there, Kneejerk.
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:19 +0000, in alt.politics, Maria
> <oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
>
>>FACE wrote:
>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>> Hassan
>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>
>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>> religiously.............
>>>
>>It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
>>and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>
> Good to know that some think it's OK.
>
> Twelve dead, 30 injured (last report) that would be about 336 immediate
> family members adversely affected and 2600 extended family members
> adversely affected (probably a lowball estimate on the extended family.)
>
> Glad to know that is "no real harm".
>
> FACE
i wonder how many more US soldiers will go nuts and kill people?
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
> On Nov 6, 5:32 pm, White Spirit <wspi...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
>> Maria wrote:
>> > FACE wrote:
>> >> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>> >> Hassan
>> >> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>> >> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>> >> religiously.............
>> > It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so
>> > few and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>
>> Yeah, it's not like they've managed to kill anyone yet. Everyone should
>> stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
>
> Um, he just happened to be a Muslim, rather more important is that
> he's a yank living in a country where the right to kill your fellow
> citizens is "enshrined in the constitution".
>
> Allah, Jesus, Lord God fucking Almighty, it's all the same to the
> victims...
>
> UD
GAWD BLESS 'MERICA AND OUR BIG SHINY GUNS!
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:21:32 +0000, in alt.politics, Djornsk
> <djo...@gmail.com>, wrote
>
>>Maria wrote:
>>> FACE wrote:
>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>>> Hassan
>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>
>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>>> religiously.............
>>>>
>>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
>>> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>
>>Considering the harm done by the murderers of British servicemen and
>>Afghani/Iraqi civilians, "these loons" are no worse than the murderers
>>who never get splattered in blood, ie those found in Washington and
>>London!
>>
>>j
>
> Not knowing your nationality, i will use as an allegory something that
> most people in the Western Hemisphere can relate to -- Wellington of
> 'Wellington's Victory' aka as 'Waterloo' once sent his men into battle in
> Belgium. He is venerated by most for that. There are statues of him,
> etc. He did not get blood spattered there or lead his troops into battle.
>
> Do you consider him a loon and a murderer?
>
> The question has a Yes/No answer. Give one of those.
people who are too dumb to make peace without killing someone are definitely
murderers, even if that's their job.
poor baby sucking on a pacifier
yet, he'll probably be the first to use leviticus quotes to justify gay
bashing while wearing his poly/cotton blend shirt, eating lobster, and
shaving his sideburns.
FACE is nothing but a useful idiot.
DVH
"Lou Ravi" <j.mu...@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
news:4af474e3$0$1006$ba4a...@news.orange.fr...
> There are more than a milliard (that's what ignorant people call a
> billion) Muslims in the world. They have probably killed about 10,000
> people at the very most since WWII during 'acts of war'.
Incredible.
Svenne
wrote:
Even if that were true, you're Face and I'd still be one up on you.
Svenne
William Black
You're not kidding son.
I mean i am sure that
> everyone knows that observing someone has lost their leg, having one's
> staff hit and most of all being shot at but not hit, and becoming
> "blood-spattered" are one and the same............
Uxbridge was famously extremely close to Wellington when his leg was
shot off.
You were extremely remiss in saying Wellington was never in the firing line.
You bollixed it son, now you get to be laughed at by everyone who's
read a reasonably well known book by a very well known historian...
Although the movie 'Waterloo' relates the event pretty much as it came
to us in accounts of the battle...
Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin
> > >> Maria wrote:
> > >>> FACE wrote:
> > >>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
> > >>>> Hassan
> > >>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
> > >>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
> > >>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so few
> > >>> and far between that they can't do any real harm...
> > >> stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
>
> > > Um, he just happened to be a Muslim,
>
> > deserved it, then it isn't that he 'just happened to be a Muslim' is it?
>
> > >rather more important is that
> > > he's a yank living in a country where the right to kill your fellow
> > > citizens is "enshrined in the constitution".
>
> > > Allah, Jesus, Lord God fucking Almighty, it's all the same to the
> > > victims...
>
>
> Perps, schmerps, burps. Yanks. Loonies, the lot of them regardless
> of race, creed, colour or [insert your favourite demographic here].
>
> UD
don't b stoopid ....therez an anti wite conspracie ere....
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
The Bible?
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
> <be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>
>> In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>> <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>> murdering of innocents.
>> That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>
>> It's in the book.
>
>
> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
> Testament'.
>
> Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
> celebrated as glory to god.........
Well, it seems dubbya et al lean rather more towards the OT.
Nick 'Im a lazy cunt' Griffin
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:29:05 -0500, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:45:12 +0200, in alt.politics, Svenne
>
> >>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:26:45 -0500, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:48:42 +0200, in alt.politics, Svenne
>
> >>>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:29:46 -0500, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net>
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
> >>>>>innocents.
>
> >>>>George Bush's Christian god just loved the mass slaughter of
> >>>>innocents.
>
> >>>Got a cite for that, cannabis brain? I hope that in this case, your cite
> >>>will be from something other than a palestinian source this time......
>
> >>There aren't many sources less credible than most American sources and
> >>that's counting North Korea, but the facts are in. Bush was a
> >>brainless religionist nut job who unleashed mass murder at the bequest
> >>of the demon he worshipped:
>
> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
>
> >>www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
>
> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
>
> >>Svenne
>
> >cluffie, you are a fucking idiot.
>
> Even if that were true, you're Face and I'd still be one up on you.
>
> Svenne
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> I cannot feel his mind.
> I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
> But not the soul behind.
>
> The men of my own stock
> They may do ill or well,
> But they tell the lies I am wonted to,
> They are used to the lies I tell.
> And we do not need interpreters
> When we go to buy and sell.
>
> The Stranger within my gates,
> He may be evil or good,
> What reasons sway his mood;
> Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
> Shall repossess his blood.
>
> The men of my own stock,
> Bitter bad they may be,
> But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
> And see the things I see;
> And whatever I think of them and their likes
> They think of the likes of me.
>
> This was my father's belief
> And this is also mine:
> And the grapes be all one vine,
> Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
> By bitter bread and wine.
>
>
>
>
> -- Rudyard Kipling --
That's why we need tens of thousands of laws and millions of statutes to
run a multicultural society. And vast numbers of lawyers to arbitrate
and rule.
Nick 'Im a lazy cunt' Griffin
wrote:
> FACE wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:48:42 +0200, in alt.politics, Svenne
>
> >> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:29:46 -0500, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
> >>> innocents.
> >> George Bush's Christian god just loved the mass slaughter of
> >> innocents.
>
> >> Svenne
>
> > Got a cite for that, cannabis brain? I hope that in this case, your cite
> > will be from something other than a palestinian source this time......
>
> The Bible?
>
> --
> Dirk
>
nipples
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Not bad - any nude pics?
FACE
<willia...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
No surprise there.
>
> I mean i am sure that
>> everyone knows that observing someone has lost their leg, having one's
>> staff hit and most of all being shot at but not hit, and becoming
>> "blood-spattered" are one and the same............
>
>Uxbridge was famously extremely close to Wellington when his leg was
>shot off.
>
>You were extremely remiss in saying Wellington was never in the firing line.
>
>You bollixed it son, now you get to be laughed at by everyone who's
>read a reasonably well known book by a very well known historian...
>
>Although the movie 'Waterloo' relates the event pretty much as it came
>to us in accounts of the battle...
As I said before: My, my, willy, i'll bet you feel smug now.
So you get your history from movies? Not good, boy.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bert Hyman
<AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>
> Since I already know your next predictable move
Then I guess you don't need to keep yammering, do you?
William Black
As I very carefully indicated, I get my history from books.
As I reasoned you probably have a problem with books I gave you an
alternative.
It seems you not only don't read books, you don't read Usenet articles
either...
FACE
<tvaer...@aol.com>, wrote
cluffie, you are one dumb fucker. You are always my lesser; always have
been; always will be.
I see that you chose to start another worthless insult game -- which as
usual, you will lose -- but no wonder really since you are so fucking
stupid, you just keep coming back for more. Does stupid grow wild on your
frozen tundra and you OD on it?
Maybe you can ally with others of your lower kind of life like achey-john
and jism..............
LOL!!!!!!!
FACE
n m
wrote:
> Nick 'Im a lazy cunt' Griffin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 12:56 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> FACE wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:48:42 +0200, in alt.politics, Svenne
> >>> <tvaerska...@aol.com>, wrote
> >>>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:29:46 -0500, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
> >>>>> innocents.
> >>>> George Bush's Christian god just loved the mass slaughter of
> >>>> innocents.
> >>>> Svenne
> >>> Got a cite for that, cannabis brain? I hope that in this case, your cite
> >>> will be from something other than a palestinian source this time......
> >> The Bible?
>
> >> --
> >> Dirk
>
> >>http://www.transcendence.me.uk/-Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/-A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe-Occult Talk Show
>
> > nipples
>
>
> Not bad - any nude pics?
>
> --
> Dirk
>
of course
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Well, URLs please for all our viewers
cornholio
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:55:34 +0100, in alt.politics.immigration, "Lou
> Ravi" <j.mur...@libertysurf.fr>, wrote
>
>
>
> >White Spirit wrote:
> >> Maria wrote:
>
> >>> FACE wrote:
>
> >>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
> >>>> Hassan
> >>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> >>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
> >>>> religiously.............
>
> >>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so
> >>> few and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>
> >> should stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
>
> >Muslims have killed nowhere near as many people as Christians have,
> >albeit not necessarily in the direct name of Christianity. There are
> >more than a milliard (that's what ignorant people call a billion)
> >Muslims in the world. They have probably killed about 10,000 people at
> >Bush and Blair?
>
> You remain an idiot, aches. (just in case you forgot)
It's nice that the idiot ignores the genocide of non-muslimes being
perpetrated by muslime fucks throughout N. Africa -- in particular
the Sudan/Darfur region.
cornholio
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:39:26 -0000, in alt.politics, "DVH"
> <d...@vhvhvhvh.com>, wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> >"FACE" <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net> wrote in message
> >news:31u8f5504ih255ten...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:32:53 -0000, in alt.politics, "DVH"
> >> <d...@vhvhvhvh.com>, wrote
>
> >>>"FACE" <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:4cl8f5dd73eaom5d1...@4ax.com...
> >>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
> >>>> Hassan
> >>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> >>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
> >>>> religiously.............
>
>
> >> I am not familiar with that, assuming that by MPs you mean 'Members of
> >> Parliament'.
>
> >A trainee Afghan policeman went gonzo and killed five unarmed military
> >police. I thought there might be a connection...
>
> I have not heard the connection made. There are similarities,
> though.......
Yeah, the perps were all muslimes.
Svenne
wrote:
>I see that you chose to start another worthless insult game -- which as
>usual, you will lose -- but no wonder really since you are so fucking
>stupid, you just keep coming back for more. Does stupid grow wild on your
>frozen tundra and you OD on it?
I use facts and arguments, things you run out of very quickly which is
why you are the one who rapidly descends into insults. Bullshit and
bluster, you just don't have much else.
Which is why you Americans keep messing up so badly around the world.
You go in with guns blazing and kicking ass wherever you see it with
all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop.
And you end up with everybody disliking you. Not that you worry about
it, just kick some more ass and all will be well, eh?
You really don't have a clue.
Svenne
Lou Ravi
> Lou Ravi wrote:
>> White Spirit wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>
>>>> FACE wrote:
>>>>> Malik Hassan
>>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>>>> religiously.............
>>>> so few and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>> Yeah, it's not like they've managed to kill anyone yet. Everyone
>>> should stop worrying and accept that Islam is a religion of peace.
>>
>> Well actually, to be honest on the matter, it must be admitted that
>> Muslims have killed nowhere near as many people as Christians have,
>> albeit not necessarily in the direct name of Christianity. There are
>> more than a milliard (that's what ignorant people call a billion)
>> Muslims in the world. They have probably killed about 10,000 people
>> at the very most since WWII during 'acts of war'. Quid 'Christians'
>> such as Bush and Blair?
>>
>>
> after WW2.
Very possibly, it was just a figure pulled out of the air but I am
certain that the Muslim world has killed nowhere near as many people as
the Christian world.
DVH
>> They killed many times that number of Hindus at the partition of India
>> after WW2.
>
> Very possibly, it was just a figure pulled out of the air
It was a lie, you mean?
Maria
>>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:29:46 -0500, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the murdering of
>>>> innocents.
>>> George Bush's Christian god just loved the mass slaughter of
>>> innocents.
>
>> will be from something other than a palestinian source this time......
>
> that's counting North Korea, but the facts are in. Bush was a
> brainless religionist nut job who unleashed mass murder at the bequest
> of the demon he worshipped:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
>
> www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually I think that ending tyranny is a decent and wholesome objective
- what is wrong is when the ideology gets in the way of reality and the
likely outcome is even more tyranny. Personally I would have left Saddam
where he was, because he knew how to hold down the suicide cultists who
are now murdering Iraqis that we thought were oppressed by Saddam in the
first place.
In Afghanistan, I would just fence it off and leave it to stew until
they are ready for governance. Other than that, we would have to be
prepared to be there en masse and show absolutely no mercy in order to
'win', and then stay there for a couple of generations to keep the
peace. After all that, I have to say 'what's in it for us'?
They won't even napalm the poppy fields to cut off their funding...
Maria
> In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
> <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>
>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>> murdering of innocents.
>
>
> It's in the book.
>
The Islamists do not believe that we worship the same 'God' - they are
not objective.
Maria
> FACE wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:21:32 +0000, in alt.politics, Djornsk
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> FACE wrote:
>>>>> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik
>>>>> Hassan
>>>>> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>>>>>
>>>>> Really heart warming to see someone who works so
>>>>> religiously.............
>>>>>
>>>> It's ok - according to certain contributors here, these loons are so
>>>> few and far between that they can't do any real harm...
>>> Afghani/Iraqi civilians, "these loons" are no worse than the
>>> murderers who never get splattered in blood, ie those found in
>>> Washington and London!
>>>
>>> j
>>
>> Not knowing your nationality, i will use as an allegory something that
>> most people in the Western Hemisphere can relate to -- Wellington of
>> 'Wellington's Victory' aka as 'Waterloo' once sent his men into battle in
>> Belgium. He is venerated by most for that. There are statues of him,
>> etc. He did not get blood spattered there or lead his troops into
>> battle.
>>
>
> the wall acts of violence in the west related to the Iraq/Afghanistan
> conflicts. Wellington was clearly no loon in that sense.
I consider some to be lone or minority loons, as opposed to organised
loons. There seems to be a thin line between the two these days...
I do not believe that we are loons - for a start, we refuse to do what
it would take to actually control this situation - aka be as
bloodythirsy and merciless as they are.
FACE
<willia...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
Little willie, you are a real ass, but then I suppose you must be first
calibre in something.
FACE
<be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>In news:jp79f5let4cs7tbb7...@4ax.com FACE
><AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Since I already know your next predictable move
>
>Then I guess you don't need to keep yammering, do you?
very cute bertie. I see you rattle on....................
Just go on and admit that you are incapable of addressing the questions
put to you. You will feel better when you acknowledge that you are
ill-equipped and vacuous.........
LOL!
FACE
NeoPax <dirk....@gmail.com>, wrote
>FACE wrote:
>> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
>> <be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>>
>>> In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>>> <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>>> murdering of innocents.
>>> That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>>
>>> It's in the book.
>>
>>
>> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
>> Testament'.
>>
>> Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
>> celebrated as glory to god.........
>
>Well, it seems dubbya et al lean rather more towards the OT.
I was trying to think who could actually speak *for* the Christian church
and i guess it is the pope, though the fallibility of popes has been
proven many times, so I guess one has to go back to the new testament, and
then, who is to say that is infallible..........
FACE
FACE
<tvaer...@aol.com>, wrote
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:29:20 -0500, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
You are a fucking idiot. You think that you can insult with impunity.
You cannot.
I would much prefer that you simply fuck off, but I know that won't
happen. Like some other fucking idiots, you are like something that is
stepped on in the street and then won't come off the bottom of ones
shoe....
Did you enjoy your daily large bowl of stupid?
BTW, your continued actions are stupid. Hence, you are stupid.
Now, demonstrate your hateful idiocy, motherfucker.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
They *do* believe that Xians, Jews and Muslims worship the same god.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
I would go so far as to say that the god of the OT is not the same as
the god of the NT, despite JC having to toe the party line.
Maria
> Maria wrote:
>> Bert Hyman wrote:
>>> In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>>> <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>>> murdering of innocents.
>>>
>>> That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>>
>>> It's in the book.
>>>
>>
>> The Islamists do not believe that we worship the same 'God' - they are
>> not objective.
>
> They *do* believe that Xians, Jews and Muslims worship the same god.
>
They as in Muslims in general, or Islamists?
Aramis Gunton
news:44adnZqaN5m_4mjX...@bt.com...
> I consider some to be lone or minority loons, as opposed to organised
> loons. There seems to be a thin line between the two these days...
> I do not believe that we are loons - for a start, we refuse to do what it
> would take to actually control this situation - aka be as bloodythirsy and
> merciless as they are.
I fear we are too busy filling our armed forces with girls and girly-boys
and moving the bar on the high jump lower to worry about all that nasty
warrior malarkey. I mean it's nearly 2010 for pity's sake.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Both.
In Islam Jesus is the second most venerated prophet.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
The real problem is trying to use soldiers as social workers.
Bert Hyman
<oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk> wrote:
All Islamists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are Islamists.
Islamists are merely Muslims with the desire to establish Islamic rule;
it's a political movement with religious roots.
Osric
"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
news:4cl8f5dd73eaom5d1...@4ax.com...
> According to reports, before he murdered over a dozen people, Malik Hassan
> said before his assembled victims: "Allahu Akbar".
>
> Really heart warming to see someone who works so religiously.............
The Takbir is uttered by Muslims in all sorts of circumstances, especially
times of high stress, it provides little or no insight into the motives of
the assailant other than he is a Muslim and is in no way necessarily
indicative that he feels he is doing gods work. A Muslim might well repeat
the Takbir whilst lying injured following a car accident. It would be
surprising if a devout Muslim did not recite the Takbir during a moment when
he thought death was imminent.
It might well be that the Major was committing an act of Jihad, who knows.
But what is clear is that the suggestion that the use of the Takbir is
evidence of Jihadi intent says more about the ignorance of the commentator
than the motives of the perpetrator. So no surprises there then
--
Osric
THE BORDERS OF MY COUNTRY
RUN AROUND THE SOLES OF MY FEET
cornholio
"Very possibly"? The muslime pigs were CONTINUING their genocide of
Hindus in the 1970's in the INdian sub-continent. Their persecution of
Hindus there has NEVER stopped.
cornholio
> "FACE" <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net> wrote in message
I'll bet "Osric's" real name is Ahmed, Abdul, Farid, Fuckwad or
Fuckwit.
FACE
NeoPax <dirk....@gmail.com>, wrote
>FACE wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:57:36 +0000, in alt.politics, Dirk Bruere at
>> NeoPax <dirk....@gmail.com>, wrote
>>
>>> FACE wrote:
>>>> On 06 Nov 2009 20:32:49 GMT, in alt.politics, Bert Hyman
>>>> <be...@iphouse.com>, wrote
>>>>
>>>>> In news:i819f5t24fs8g94t2...@4ax.com FACE
>>>>> <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know what kind of god is being pleased by the
>>>>>> murdering of innocents.
>>>>> That would be the god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's in the book.
>>>>
>>>> The "Christian" portion of 'the book' is generally called the 'New
>>>> Testament'.
>>>>
>>>> Please point out where, in that New Testament, killing innocents is
>>>> celebrated as glory to god.........
>>> Well, it seems dubbya et al lean rather more towards the OT.
>>
>> I was trying to think who could actually speak *for* the Christian church
>> and i guess it is the pope, though the fallibility of popes has been
>> proven many times, so I guess one has to go back to the new testament, and
>> then, who is to say that is infallible..........
>
>I would go so far as to say that the god of the OT is not the same as
>the god of the NT, despite JC having to toe the party line.
Indeed! Now there's a good take on it!
FACE&
Osric
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Whereas yours is clearly accurate
FACE
<oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
Maria, you are not incorrect, but then neither is Dirk.
It is necessary to separate the Meccan Muslim from the Medinan Muslim to
see the differences.
After you separate those two types of Muslim, you need to get into the
abrogation of verses, and the military/political significance resulting
from the Hejira -- "the flight [for his life] of Muhammad from Mecca to
Medina in 622 a.d., marking the beginning of the Muslim era" --
remembering that much of the Koran was written prior to the Hejira, and
islam was already in existence.
FACE
miles
> They as in Muslims in general, or Islamists?
Muslim is not a race. It is someone who believes in Islam. They are
one in the same.
FACE
<oldw...@theshoe.ac.uk>, wrote
>Svenne wrote:
On the poppy fields............
I heard a while back that there was actually a shortage in natural opiates
for medicinal use. I think that the Western Governments' could buy the
entire opium output of the afghanis for medicinal uses, and that may work
so long as they deal harshly with those selling the product outside of the
government monopoly. There would be more detail to this sort of
thing......
FACE