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Iconoclast

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:20:10 AM11/6/09
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Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fort-Hood-shooting-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-said-Muslims-should-rise-up.html

01910infinity

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Nov 6, 2009, 6:02:14 AM11/6/09
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On Nov 6, 2:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst...@nym.hush.com> wrote:
> Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'
>
> Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
> shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
> up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
> former army colleague said.
>
> By Philip Sherwell in New York
> Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009
>
> Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
> base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
> officers over his views.
>
> Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
> end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
> insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

Maybe the University of MA in Amherst will take him to live
in their community....he could make speeches......
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

There is a method to his madness.....
He is a wild ass Muslim. Brethren of Ishmael....

It's a genetic psychological, thing....custom made....

Genesis 14. HaShem sets up Lucifer, an Omniscient Archangel
deferred a Supreme Being, to become Allah. A Supreme Mighty
God.....

(Forbidden to claim the title 'Almighty'. Maybe all Mighty? All
Mighty Joe Young!)

Islam and its wild asses exist. They have a global affect. That
cannot be denied. They have an origin......

Genesis 16. Lucifer's made and chosen people, and nation through
the seed, of a "Wild Ass of a man child".....Ishmael......

That means the Torah is the Gospel Truth.....!

The Koran came around 500 AD. Inspired by an Archangel of HaShem!

HaShem Rules!

f. barnes

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:12:59 AM11/6/09
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under: concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter? I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

Iconoclast

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:34:31 AM11/6/09
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Did you happen to notice that the early reports coming out of Fort
Hood said that none of the soldiers other than Hasan were armed,
because all firearms on the base were kept locked up. I recall some
other base where all soldiers who lived off base (maybe on base as
well) had to report to the base commander all their personal
"stockpiles" of weapons. In other words, it was like Virginia Tech
where students were not allowed to have guns on campus. Thus, the
soldiers at Fort Hood were the proverbial "sitting ducks" for Hasan,
just as Virginia Tech students were when Cho went on his killing
rampage. What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base? No wonder Hasan was able to kill so many soldiers.
Don't think that Al Qaeda or MS13 haven't taken note that our soldiers
on bases are unarmed. I wonder if they have the Minutemen defending
the WMD's, waiting in lawn chairs to call the police if Al Qaeda shows
up.

Iconoclast
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www.rescuewithoutborders.org

God'sLittleAnus

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Nov 6, 2009, 1:13:31 PM11/6/09
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Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
Islam-
inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.

Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?

It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.

Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
the 9/11 disaster.

Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.

The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
RELIGION.

Who's your enemy, Baby?

James Meyers

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:16:09 PM11/6/09
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Hey Jack ass who said he was Right Wing? Only an lying ass like you would
say that. More than likely he was a Muslim loving Dummyrat.
Jim
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THE-M...@webtv.net

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Nov 6, 2009, 3:42:37 PM11/6/09
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I agree Muslims should all rise up and take boats back to the country
they came from. Especially if they don't like it here.=:~)

Iconoclast

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Nov 6, 2009, 5:08:12 PM11/6/09
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THE Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk —
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.

The men of my own stock
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wonted to,
They are used to the lies I tell.
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy and sell.

The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control —
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.

The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.

This was my father's belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf —
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.


-- Rudyard Kipling --

SaPeIsMa

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:26:40 PM11/6/09
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LOL
Too stupid to even recognize simple irony
so sad.


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Gunner Asch

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Nov 7, 2009, 2:31:07 AM11/7/09
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:34:31 -0800 (PST), Iconoclast
<gold...@nym.hush.com> wrote:

>What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
>guns on base?


Every modern army since WW2, actually, or before.

They werent in training, they werent in the field..they were in offices.


"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
worth."

Red Cloud

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:19:14 AM11/7/09
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Arming with gun is not a solution in this matter no matter how many
guns
you want people to arm. There is no such thing shooting-free arm-
citizen.
One of crazy guy will going shooting rampage. Gun issue is an
american tragedy
and is a illusion that gun will protect people. There are crazy
arm-citizen so easy
to going shooting rampage. In this trouble time, it will further
escalate killing.

Red Cloud

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:33:09 AM11/7/09
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Who is your enemy? Muslim Terrorist??? Are you so sure Muslim
terrorist
killed and harmed more American citizen than any other?

Try Mexican/Hispanic illegal invasion. Find out how many American
citizens were killed and harmed by Mexican/Hispanic illegal and
compared to Muslim terrorist
act.

There is no such thing as Muslim invasion to America. It's all LIE.
Get the reality of the Mexican/Hispanic invasion. How many Mexican/
Hispanic illegals there?
How many them carried Swine flu virus? Now thanks to the open
border policy,
U.S. is the #1 Swine Flu carrying nation.

....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:52:49 AM11/7/09
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"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:34:31 -0800 (PST), Iconoclast
> <gold...@nym.hush.com> wrote:
>
>>What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
>>guns on base?
>
>
> Every modern army since WW2, actually, or before.
>
> They werent in training, they werent in the field..they were in offices.

They're in their homes actually, you dumbass.

Gunner Asch

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:33:34 AM11/7/09
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:19:14 -0800 (PST), Red Cloud <mmdi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Blink blink....english isnt your first language is it?

Thinking isnt something you normally do is it?

Pity

Gunner

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 7, 2009, 7:32:38 AM11/7/09
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I must gently disagree with you. Especially on a military
base where the people are well schooled in use of arms.

--
Christopher A. Young
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No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:46:19 AM11/7/09
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appears that you are full of shit. He is a liberal panty waste. hiding
behind mommies skirt to keep from being deployed. He of coarse would not
want to be killing his Mooslum brothers. Voted for Obama . That we know
is a a fact because he is Mooslum and no Mooslum would vote for any other.

Sure hope he dies. Other wise Obama will give him a pardon.

No_He_Can_Not

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I think they should all be armed at all times. That is what they do.
Carry weapons. How man times should this happen ? Nothing wrong with
every one of them strapping on a 45 all the time.

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:49:15 AM11/7/09
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good. We need a whole lot of killing.

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:53:02 AM11/7/09
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trolling is his first thought in life. Another troll with another nym .
This one is lame. He will no doubt get a new one soon. perhaps an Asian
" Ahso. Dee pawty uh dee wepubwikans no goo fo Ameika. Een China, we do
nawt have sucha fwee society"

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:54:20 AM11/7/09
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look for many more islamic terrorist attacks . Obama is making sure it
happens .

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:56:00 AM11/7/09
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Now we agree . Mexicans are terrorists.

Mr.Sandman

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:31:47 AM11/7/09
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Muslim terrorists and xenophobic, racist right-wingers are the same kind
of people. They are birds of the same feather, they feed off each other
and need each other. Both groups are promoting paranoia, xenophobia and
intolerance.
Right-wing talk radio would have nothing much to talk about if it wasn't
for the Islamic threat of terrorism.

Gunner Asch

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:37:28 PM11/7/09
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Well...we could talk about the murderous xenophobic fascist leftwingers.

Red Cloud

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:29:22 PM11/7/09
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Arm yourself and kill yourself!!! One whitepenis scumbag DEAD!

Red Cloud

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On Nov 7, 3:33 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:19:14 -0800 (PST), Red Cloud <mmdir2...@yahoo.com>

Your mind is not your first mind, isn't? I don't think so.
Time to kill your mind. Arm yourself and face the mirror and repeat
this: "I'm gonna
to end up in hell. Pull the trigger..." Another Whitepenis Jackass
DEAD!!!!


Gunner Asch

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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:32:23 -0800 (PST), Red Cloud <mmdi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 7, 3:33�am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

White? Im Ojibwa. Native American. Unlike you, squaw piss drinker.

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:55:03 PM11/7/09
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Trolling should be done on a lake or river. go away.

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:56:27 PM11/7/09
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real Americans are what you fear. your socialist " give it all away and
bow to others " ideals are useless in a society that plans on being
around for a while.

SaPeIsMa

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"Red Cloud" <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# Arming with gun is not a solution in this matter no matter how many
# guns you want people to arm. There is no such thing shooting-free
# arm-citizen.
# One of crazy guy will going shooting rampage. Gun issue is an
# american tragedy and is a illusion that gun will protect people.
# There are crazy arm-citizen so easy to going shooting rampage.
# In this trouble time, it will further escalate killing.

What muddled thinking based on >>feelings<< rather than actual data
1) The ONLY people making the false claim that "gun will protect people"
Guns are NOTHING but tools, incapable of ANYTHING without people
Armed people can protect themselves and others
DIS-armed people can protect no one
This has been show to be CONSISTENTLY TRUE both:
- in the number of Defensive Gun Uses where people protect
themselves from criminal attacks
- in school shootings Perl Ms, Appalachia Law School, Texas Tower,
where staff, students or bystanders, were able to get their guns and
confront the shooter
2) There will always be nuts around who want to go out in a ball of
death, taking as many with them as they can, or those who simply want to go
out and kill indiscriminaltely.
There is NO POSSIBLE PRE-EMPTIVE defense against such acts
But armed citizens on the scene have a far better chance of survival
AND of stopping the rampage than unarmed people.


miles

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No_He_Can_Not wrote:

> look for many more islamic terrorist attacks . Obama is making sure it
> happens .

That is very true. I also blame the American Islamic community for not
standing up with a loud clear voice against radical Islam. These
radicals are hijacking their faith and yet you do not see them on the
forefront fighting against them. Ya, they issue condemnations at these
horrific events but otherwise seem to go against those fighting
radicalism than to fight along with them. We need to hear their voice
far far more. They are losing their own faith to do otherwise.

SaPeIsMa

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"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Gunner
You give him far more status than he deserves
This is the same stupid name-changing troll who uses at lease one new nym a
day
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SaPeIsMa

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YAh !
They only managed to kill OVER 140,000,000 people in the previous centiry
The only ones who are anywhere near them are the Muslims, and it took them
about 1400 years to even come close.

No_He_Can_Not

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Like I said, he is a troll.

No_He_Can_Not

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they are just like obama. i will always go with the Muslims . they are
so brain washed that even saying that terrorism is bad is against their
" religion " cult. It would be blasphemy or what ever the nuts call it.

Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:09:27 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com>
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Thanks! Forwarded to the appropriate people for termination.

Red Cloud

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On Nov 8, 9:09 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote:
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He is not trolling, calling me Asian or Drinker???

SaPeIsMa

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"Red Cloud" <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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#
# He is not trolling, calling me Asian or Drinker???

Nope
And unlike you
He doesn't icite suicidem which is a felony
Nor does he change his nym on an almost daily basis either

Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:31:09 -0800 (PST), Red Cloud <mmdi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 8, 9:09�am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote:

No. Im making an observation of fact.

Deal with it.

Stormin Mormon

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Even more so, in the case of the military. Who are trained
and schooled in use (or restraint from use of) force.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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Sid9

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The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except for
cops and training.

They know something you don�t know.

Perhaps you think weapons should be permitted in bars?

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No_He_Can_Not

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trolling would be changing your nym to give a total different point of
view. arguing with people just for the sake of argument not because it
is what you believe. Using sock puppets , which falls under nym changing
rule.
here it is:
use a different nym now and then if you do not want to get profile built
on you. Try to not have too much of a difference in opinion . A little
is okay . sometimes you need to change your attitude on things and the
same nym will not allow for that because people still know it is you.
Calling people names and such like drinker is nothing. Just be careful
because there are those that would love to know who you are so they can
file a law suit against you for defamation. Use a news server besides
the one you are connecting with. No cox or att shit. Giganews or
teranews or any other that hides who you are.

Now knock off the Indian " How " shit. It is insulting to some of us.

....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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> White? Im Ojibwa. Native American.


Bullshit, you're a fat white man who sleeps with dogs.


....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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Dumbfuck trailer trash like you cant be insulted, idiot.

No_He_Can_Not

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not by a toll retard liberal trash sissie like you any way.

Stormin Mormon

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Look how effective "forbidding" was.

Bars: Don't change the subject, please. That just further
demonstrates your lack of substance.

--
Christopher A. Young
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No_He_Can_Not

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Sid9 wrote:
> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except for
> cops and training.
>
> They know something you don�t know.
i think our soldiers on base are a far leap away from drunks in a bar.
They carry guns for a living. Might as well carry them at home. Most
Americans do.

....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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"No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> i think our soldiers on base are a far leap away from drunks in a bar.
> They carry guns for a living. Might as well carry them at home. Most
> Americans do.

Bullshit.

....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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"No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> not by a toll retard liberal tr<SMAK!>


White trash speaks with forked tongue...........HOW!!


Sid9

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:23:25 PM11/8/09
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"Forebidding" had a gap, a loophole, a fissure.

Retail gunshops

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Sid9

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"No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Sid9 wrote:
>> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except
>> for cops and training.
>>
>> They know something you don�t know.
.
.
Probably true.

There are estimates that there are 200,000,000 to 300,000,000 guns in
the United States.

The result:

You are 30 times more likely to die of a gunshot in the United States
than in the UK.


cornholio

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On Nov 8, 7:26 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
> "No_He_Can_Not" <nohecan...@mail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:xu2dnbSf0pVEGmrX...@giganews.com...
>
> > Sid9 wrote:
> >> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except
> >> for cops and training.
>
> >> They know something you don’t know.
>
> >> Perhaps you think weapons should be permitted in bars?
>
> >> "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:hd7i3d$qqs$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>
> >>> Even more so, in the case of the military. Who are trained
> >>> and schooled in use (or restraint from use of) force.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Christopher A. Young
> >>> Learn more about Jesus
> >>>  www.lds.org
> >>> .
>
> >>> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote in message

LOL, yet Mexico, which doesn't have the right to bear arms is much
more dangerous than the USA.

Part of the reason you're likely to die of a gunshot wound in the USA
is because our emergency care health system is shutting down due
to its use by illegal aliens and healthcare tourists who have no
intention
of ever paying the bill for the services they consume.

Sid9

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"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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.
.
.
Mexico is not a modern industrialized nation.

No_He_Can_Not

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:43:51 PM11/9/09
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try lake texoma. I hear the trolling is great.

No_He_Can_Not

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.... tHe_PC_JelLlLy BeAn!! .! !!! . wrote:
so soldiers are like bar flies ?
they do not carry guns?
most people do not have guns at home ?
which one is it ?

No_He_Can_Not

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Sid9 wrote:
> "No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:xu2dnbSf0pVEGmrX...@giganews.com...
>
>> Sid9 wrote:
>>
>>> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except
>>> for cops and training.
>>>
>>> They know something you don�t know.
yep but in the UK are far more likely to get stabbed or beat with a club
or bombed by a Mooslum.

If everyone had a gun strapped to their side then this shit would slow
down. Robberies also. Thugs do not want to pull a gun when they know the
30 people around them also have one and would shoot them.

No_He_Can_Not

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cornholio wrote:
> On Nov 8, 7:26 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> "No_He_Can_Not" <nohecan...@mail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:xu2dnbSf0pVEGmrX...@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>>> Sid9 wrote:
>>>
>>>> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except
>>>> for cops and training.
>>>>
>>>> They know something you don�t know.
oh no, more racist talk. You can not just go around calling Mexico
dangerous. that is racist . La raza will be sending you a letter with a
link to their tolerance seminar.

No_He_Can_Not

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Sid9 wrote:
> "cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:adfa76cb-d158-4752...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>> On Nov 8, 7:26 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "No_He_Can_Not" <nohecan...@mail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:xu2dnbSf0pVEGmrX...@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sid9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post
>>>>> except
>>>>> for cops and training.
>>>>>
>>>>> They know something you don�t know.
So stay the fuck out of the United States of America . We do not want
you. Hence we may just shoot your ass.

Sid9

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"No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Sid9 wrote:
>> "No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xu2dnbSf0pVEGmrX...@giganews.com...
>>
>>> Sid9 wrote:
>>>
>>>> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post except
>>>> for cops and training.
>>>>
>>>> They know something you don�t know.
.
.
You've got the NRA stuff down pat!

You are 30 times more likely to die of a gunshot in the United States
than in the UK.

The shooting in Ft Hood, which has extremely strict gun regulation,
resulted from an outside gun brought in.

People in Ft Hood are safe because only the police have them...except
when training with weapons.

The top five states for gun deaths:

per 100,000
Alaska: 20
Louisiana: 19.5
Wyoming: 18.8
Arizona: 18
Nevada: 17.3


The lowest states for gun deaths:

Rhode Island: 5.1
New York: 5.1
New Jersey: 4.9
Connecticut: 4.3
Massachusetts: 3.1
Hawaii: 2.8

Why do you suppose New York's gun death rate is 25% of Alaska's?

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000



Sid9

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"No_He_Can_Not" <nohec...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Sid9 wrote:
>> "cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:adfa76cb-d158-4752...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 7:26 pm, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "No_He_Can_Not" <nohecan...@mail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:xu2dnbSf0pVEGmrX...@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sid9 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The military is smart enough to forbid all weapons on post
>>>>>> except
>>>>>> for cops and training.
>>>>>> They know something you don�t know.
.
.
Gosh, you really are a whizz bang smart guy. Thanks for your input.


Harold Burton

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In article
<8234e0be-f471-4f5a...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Red Cloud <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Arming with gun is not a solution...


Stupidity has no limits.


Snicker.

Harold Burton

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:28:34 PM11/9/09
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In article <hd824l$lk7$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
the idiot "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> rambled:


> You are 30 times more likely to die of a gunshot in the United States
> than in the UK.


Since I spend virtually all my time in the United States and very rarely
go to the UK that's hardly a great revelation. Doh!


Snicker.

Harold Burton

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In article <hd9fre$pvt$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote:


> You are 30 times more likely to die of a gunshot in the United States
> than in the UK.


Probably because I spend virtually all of my time in the United States,
and very little in the UK. Doh!!!


Snicker.

Harold Burton

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:32:00 PM11/9/09
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In article <hda2de$607$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote:


> You are 30 times more likely to die of a gunshot in the United States
> than in the UK.

Probably 1000 times more likely since I don't spend any time in the UK.
DOH!!!


Snicker

cornholio

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On Nov 7, 10:32 am, Red Cloud <mmdir2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 3:33 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:19:14 -0800 (PST), Red Cloud <mmdir2...@yahoo.com>
> > >Arming with gun is not a solution in this matter no matter how many
> > >guns
> > >you want people to arm. There is no such thing shooting-free arm-
> > >citizen.

> > >One of crazy guy will going shooting rampage.  Gun issue is an
> > >american tragedy
> > >and is a  illusion that gun will protect people.    There are crazy
> > >arm-citizen so easy
> > >to going shooting rampage.  In this trouble time, it will further
> > >escalate killing.
>

> > Blink blink....english isnt your first language is it?
>
>  Your mind is not your first mind, isn't? I don't think so.
>  Time to kill your mind. Arm yourself and face the mirror and repeat
> this: "I'm gonna
> to end up in hell.  Pull the trigger..."  Another Whitepenis Jackass
> DEAD!!!!

Your fascination with penises says it all.

Gunner Asch

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damn...how many leftist gays are we dealing with? I thought they were
only 13-15% of the population.

Gunner

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"Zombywoof" <fish...@live.com> wrote in message
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> What is Bullshit? That our Military members are better then a bunch
> of drunks in a bar. That they carry guns for a living. Or that
> most
> Americans have a gun at home?
>
> I'll go with the last hoping that your not a complete asshole and
> dissing those that at least backup their beliefs with actions &
> professionalism.
>
> Currently the average number of people with carry permits in "Shall
> Issue" States runs around an average of 3% of the population of that
> State. For two States that have no laws regarding concealed carry
> permits the number isn't available. Same goes for the States that
> allow unlicensed open carry, which is more then you might actually
> believe.
>
> According to most sources average firearm ownership in the U.S. is
> somewhere in the 35 to 48% range for legally owned weapons but more
> like 55-60% if you include illegal ones. Now that isn't "most", but
> quite a bit over the "Bullshit" range you might have predicted.
> --
>
> "Gustatus Similis Pullus"
.
.
I read estimates of from 200,000,000 to 300,000,000 firearms in the
USA.

There is NO way they can be controlled. EVER.


....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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"Zombywoof" <fish...@live.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:15:52 +1100, <.... tHe_PC_JelLlLy BeAn!! .!
> !!! .> wrote:
>
>>
> What is Bullshit? That our Military members are better then a bunch
> of drunks in a bar. That they carry guns for a living. Or that most
> Americans have a gun at home?


Yes.


>
> I'll go with the last hoping that your not a complete asshole and
> dissing those that at least backup their beliefs with actions &
> professionalism.


Oh for fucks sake, give it a rest, you pinhead.

The way you carry on you'd think anyone in the services was a fucking saint,
whereas the reality is a large proportion of them are morons who had no
other option.


> Currently the average number of people with carry permits in "Shall
> Issue" States runs around an average of 3% of the population of that
> State. For two States that have no laws regarding concealed carry
> permits the number isn't available. Same goes for the States that
> allow unlicensed open carry, which is more then you might actually
> believe.

Man I coudnt give a fuck what stats you gun jackoffs rattle off.


You're all a bunch of smalldick losers who feel they have to carry a gun to
be a man.


johnny@.

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I hope you get the chance to wish you had one.

Gunner Asch

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:00:23 -0600, " johnny@." <joh...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:


In less then 3 yrs...you will get your wish.

And he will get his worst nightmare.

<VBG>

Works for me

....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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I've got more than one, you fucking spastic.

Sheesh..gun loons....dumber than batshit


....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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> In less then 3 yrs...you will get your wish.

*YAWN*

>
> And he will get his worst nightmare.


My worst nightmare is to be stuck in a cable car with fuckwits like you and
to have rags & water to clean up the blood and teeth you've left behind.

>
> <VBG>
>
> Works for me

You do realize you're a complete and utter jackass, don't you lil'gummer?


ROFLOL!


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