Re: CDC SAYS -- HOMOSEXUAL MALES REMAIN THE NO.1 VECTOR OF HIV/AIDS IN THE US .
RamRod Sword of Baal
"JumpsOnFire" <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm
>
> September 12, 2008 / 57(36);985-989
>
> "The male-to-male sexual contact transmission category represented 72%
> of new infections among males, including 81% of new infections among
> whites, 63% among blacks, and 72% among Hispanics. Among MSM, whites
> had 46% of new infections, and blacks and Hispanics had 35% and 19%,
> respectively."
Much cut.
..............and why did you post this?
Phil
<ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>Much cut.
>
>
>..............and why did you post this?
>
Homophobia makes you do weird things.
Phil
rm...@my-deja.com
wrote:
> Much cut.
>
> ..............and why did you post this?
This "JumpsOnFire" character has appeared under various monikers for
quite some time. That poster is obviously a homophile.
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
to learn TWO things:
(1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
(2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
the fact that people happen to contract it by having
unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
What do you want to bet that the loon who posted that "shout"
would be finding some OTHER reason for WHINING about gays
if HIV/AIDS had never even come along. Some people just have
NO lives beyond mindless control-freakism.
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James Riske
> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
> to learn TWO things:
>
> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
False, another outright, bald-faced lie from the noted liar himself
Craig Chilton.
HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV.
Even though he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still
present.
>
> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
Another bald-faced lie.
You are saying he shouldn't worry about the HIV positive bisexual homo
who was screwing a girl he just met.
>
> What do you want to bet that the loon who posted that "shout"
> would be finding some OTHER reason for WHINING about gays
> if HIV/AIDS had never even come along. Some people just have
> NO lives beyond mindless control-freakism.
>
"mindless control-freakism" suits you quite well liar Chilton, among
other things.
--
Frodo: "Why do you do that?"
Sam: "What?"
Frodo: "Call him names? Run him down all the time."
Sam: "Because that's what he is Mister Frodo. There's naught left in him
but lies and deceit.
Phil
wrote:
>Homosexuals do stupid,and ignorant things that endanger our society.
So do heterosexuals.... We'll just overlook this.
>The indisputable fact that male homosexuals who make up no more than
>three percent of the US population, because or their promiscuous and
>irresponsible sexual behavior continue, after more than a quarter
>century of focus on the problem, to be the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS, an
>incurable and often deadly disease in the United States? Do you have
>the same level of tolerance for people who expose the US population to
>communicable tuberculosis?
You're comparing tuberculosis to HIV?
You can catch tuberculosis by simply being near one with it (or where
one someone with TB was). It's not the same with HIV.
Phil
Phil
<james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
>Agendas! wrote:
>> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
>> to learn TWO things:
>>
>> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
>> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
>
>False, another outright, bald-faced lie from the noted liar himself
>Craig Chilton.
>HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
>heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
So, it's not really a homosexual thing as it is a promiscuity thing.
>Another bald-faced lie.
>
>You are saying he shouldn't worry about the HIV positive bisexual homo
>who was screwing a girl he just met.
Would you screw a girl you just met without protection? Even before
HIV broke out, there were still other STD's and, over course,
pregnancy. Would you chance these things? Or wear a condom?
Phil
James Riske
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:40:30 -0400, James Riske
> <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
>> Agendas! wrote:
>>> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
>>> to learn TWO things:
>>>
>>> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
>>> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
>> False, another outright, bald-faced lie from the noted liar himself
>> Craig Chilton.
>> HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
>> heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
>
> So, it's not really a homosexual thing as it is a promiscuity thing.
In the US it's a homosexual thing as the CDC has already shown us.
>
>> Another bald-faced lie.
>>
>> You are saying he shouldn't worry about the HIV positive bisexual homo
>> who was screwing a girl he just met.
>
> Would you screw a girl you just met without protection? Even before
> HIV broke out, there were still other STD's and, over course,
> pregnancy. Would you chance these things? Or wear a condom?
>
Would I? I wouldn't be screwing someone I just met in the first place.
However homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
> ... homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
> and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
And unless you are a gay person engaging in casual sex, NONE of
that is ANY of **your** business, control-freak.
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas! wrote:
>> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
>> to learn TWO things:
>>
>> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
>> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
<LIE-snip>
> HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
> heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
>
> This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
> hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV. Even though
> he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still present.
In SMALL enough numbers that it's not worth WHINING about.
>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
<LIE-snip>
> You are saying he shouldn't worry about the HIV positive bisexual homo
> who was screwing a girl he just met.
See above.
>> What do you want to bet that the loon who posted that "shout"
>> would be finding some OTHER reason for WHINING about gays
>> if HIV/AIDS had never even come along. Some people just have
>> NO lives beyond mindless control-freakism.
<LIE-snip>
Andrew Usher
the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > ... homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
> > and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
>
> And unless you are a gay person engaging in casual sex, NONE of
> that is ANY of **your** business, control-freak.
He just explained why. I didn't see you reply.
Andrew Usher
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
I DID reply. To BOTH of his posts. His "explanation" was specious.
So the "shameless LIAR" here is YOU, Loser.
And... how DUMB!! Getting bent out of shape over wither
two OTHER people happen to reply to one another. Talk about
having NO life! ROTFL!!!
Andrew Usher
the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:50:59 -0700 (PDT),
>
> > "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> > Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >>> ... homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
> >>> and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
> >> And unless you are a gay person engaging in casual sex, NONE of
> >> that is ANY of **your** business, control-freak.
> > He just explained why. I didn't see you reply.
>
> I DID reply. To BOTH of his posts. His "explanation" was specious.
Sorry, I didn't see it. We were apparently writing our replies at the
same
time (see the timestamps). Nonetheless my point is valid: the only
thing
in your reply (besides you calling Riske a liar) was:
>> This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
>> hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV. Even though
>> he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still present.
> In SMALL enough numbers that it's not worth WHINING about.
This is a ludicrous response. Are you saying HIV is nothing to worry
about?
Andrew Usher
James Riske
Agendas! wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:40:30 -0400,
> James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>> Loathsome Agendas! wrote:
>
>
>>> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
>>> to learn TWO things:
>>>
>>> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
>>> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
>
> <LIE-snip>
>
>> HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
>> heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
>>
>> This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
>> hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV. Even though
>> he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still present.
>
> In SMALL enough numbers that it's not worth WHINING about.
Small numbers or not, you plainly said "HE will NEVER contract AIDS from
a homosexual if he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them."
You were only talking about one person.
Translation: Craig Chilton gets busted in another lie.
juanjo
> Homosexuals do stupid,and ignorant things that endanger our society.
>
> The indisputable fact that male homosexuals who make up no more than
> three percent of the US population, because or their promiscuous and
> irresponsible sexual behavior continue, after more than a quarter
> century of focus on the problem, to be the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS, an
> incurable and often deadly disease in the United States? Do you have
> the same level of tolerance for people who expose the US population to
> communicable tuberculosis?
>
Honey bunch, AIDS is not a contagious disease and tuberculosis is.
You are not going to get AIDS unless you are having unprotected sex
with someone who is infected with HIV or sharing needles with someone
who is HIV positive. BTW the CDC does not say homosexuals are the
number one vector. They discuss "men having sex with men" which is a
broader category. Senator Craig for example is not a homosexual, just
ask him! But he is man who has sex with other men, typically as is
the case with a lot of Republicans, in bathroom stalls and other
public places. Male prostitutes, often drug users themselves, are
another category of men who are often straight in their orientation
but who are willing to have sex with other men. You know that already
because you have been picking up hustlers for years now. Then there
are men in prison who in the absence of women will engage in sexual
activity with other men, often in the form of rape.
juanjo
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:40:30 -0400, James Riske
>
Mr. Riske only has sex with prostitutes, preferably transexuals.
juanjo
> Phil wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:40:30 -0400, James Riske
> > <james.ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
> >> Agendas! wrote:
> >>> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
> >>> to learn TWO things:
>
> >>> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
> >>> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
> >> False, another outright, bald-faced lie from the noted liar himself
> >> Craig Chilton.
> >> HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
> >> heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
>
> > So, it's not really a homosexual thing as it is a promiscuity thing.
>
> In the US it's a homosexual thing as the CDC has already shown us.
>
>
Uh no, it is a promiscuity thing.
Further the report says that there were 54,230 new cases of HIV
infection reported in the USA in 2006. It states that 53% or 28,742
of those new infections came from the category of men having sex with
men. 25,488 cases were from heterosexual contact or drug use not men
having sex with men. 15,184 new cases were among heterosexual men.
The remainder of the cases were among women.
You are taking selected portions of the report and twisting the
statistics to say something they do not say. The other thing here is
that the number of cases resulting from men having sex with men has
continued to drop although it has not dropped as steadily as it had in
the past. This is primarily due to an increase in younger minority
men contracting HIV. The percentage of heterosexual infection has
continued to increase. It now constitutes roughly 28% of new
infections among men and 80% of new infections among women. The
impact continues to be heaviest among minority men and women. The
stats for 2006 are the first to be done under a new system of
reporting HIV infection by the CDC. That system is designed to be
more sensitive and accurate in counting new cases but it also has some
issues because it takes data from 22 states and extrapolates to the
remainder of the country. So the numbers and percentages may not be
exactly correct but the CDC seems to feel they are more accurate than
the old system. They still do not count infections in California for
reasons I do not understand.
>
> >> Another bald-faced lie.
>
> >> You are saying he shouldn't worry about the HIV positive bisexual homo
> >> who was screwing a girl he just met.
>
> > Would you screw a girl you just met without protection? Even before
> > HIV broke out, there were still other STD's and, over course,
> > pregnancy. Would you chance these things? Or wear a condom?
>
> Would I? I wouldn't be screwing someone I just met in the first place.
> However homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
> and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
>
Actually bozo, the CDC information tells you nothing about the rate of
condom use among men having sex with other men.
juanjo
AIDS is a serious problem but Mr. Riske is playing fast and loose with
the report.
The report says that there were 54,230 new cases of HIV
infection reported in the USA in 2006. It states that 53% or 28,742
of those new infections came from the category of men having sex with
men. 25,488 cases were from heterosexual contact or drug use NOT men
having sex with men. 15,184 new cases were among heterosexual men.
The remainder of the cases were among women.
The over all trend is that the number of new cases among men having
sex with men is slowly dropping while the number of heterosexual cases
continues to climb. Sadly it has been having its greatest impact in
the minority communities where cultural taboos and stigma have been
preventing effective HIV prevention programs. Additionally idiots
like Mr. Riske who insist in painting HIV as a solely gay issue, have
had a further negative impact as this tends to make it even harder
for effective HIV prevention measures to take effect among
heterosexual youth who have adopted the view that they are safe
because HIV is "a gay disease". They just do not take the matter
seriously. In heterosexuals, new cases are more common in the 13 to
29 age group, particularly among minority youth. The greatest threat
to HIV prevention in the heterosexual community continues to be morons
like Mr. Riske.
Phil
<james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Phil wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:40:30 -0400, James Riske
>> <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
>>> Agendas! wrote:
>>>> WHOMEVER it was who initiated the above thread needs
>>>> to learn TWO things:
>>>>
>>>> (1) HE will NEVER contract AIDS from a homosexual if
>>>> he refrains from having unsafe sex with any of them.
>>> False, another outright, bald-faced lie from the noted liar himself
>>> Craig Chilton.
>>> HIV positive gays who claim to be bisexual often pass HIV to their
>>> heterosexual partner which then gets transmitted to other heterosexuals.
>>
>> So, it's not really a homosexual thing as it is a promiscuity thing.
>
>In the US it's a homosexual thing as the CDC has already shown us.
And if there were no homosexuals, there would be no HIV? Is that what
you're saying? Seems more like if people (all people) practiced safe
sex and stopped sharing needles and all the other dangerous, HIV
transmitting practices, HIV would be practically eliminated.
Phil
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
Andrew Usher <k_over...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>> Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>> ... homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
>>>>> and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
>>>> And unless you are a gay person engaging in casual sex, NONE of
>>>> that is ANY of **your** business, control-freak.
>>> He just explained why. I didn't see you reply.
>> I DID reply. To BOTH of his posts. His "explanation" was specious.
> Sorry, I didn't see it. We were apparently writing our replies at the
> same time (see the timestamps). Nonetheless my point is valid: the only
> thing in your reply (besides you calling Riske a liar) was:
>>> This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
>>> hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV. Even though
>>> he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still present.
>> In SMALL enough numbers that it's not worth WHINING about.
> This is a ludicrous response. Are you saying HIV is nothing to worry
> about?
No. I'm saying that the risk of contracting it is VERY minimal
for those who practice Safe Sex WELL,
AND that Riske is one very obnoxious BUSYBODY when it comes
to what OTHER people do in private.
It's as I've said many times before -- if ALL of the BUSYBODYISM
in the world vanished into extinction overnight, the world would be
a WONDROUS place in the morning!
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> Frisco Bath Houses Must be Closed!
>> Whoever intitated that thread needs to get a life.
>>
>> Only MORONS eek to interfere with OTHER people's pastimes.
>>
>> (And for the record, I'm straight. And I'm ALSO sensible
>> and fair enough to be an egalitarian defender of personal
>> liberties.)
<LIE-snip>
[[[ READERS: I don't think anyone needs to remind you that
sociopathic-loser Riske lies like a rug constantly, and has
ZERO respect for the personal liberties of millions of people. ]]]
James Riske
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:34:35 -0400, J
> James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>> Loathsome Agendas! <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> Frisco Bath Houses Must be Closed!
>
>>> Whoever intitated that thread needs to get a life.
>>>
>>> Only MORONS eek to interfere with OTHER people's pastimes.
>>>
>>> (And for the record, I'm straight. And I'm ALSO sensible
>>> and fair enough to be an egalitarian defender of personal
>>> liberties.)
And you are a documented liar as the following message id clearly
demonstrates with 100% accuracy:
Message-ID: <yqOdnRuyO4S0Y0DV...@earthlink.com>
Direct link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/fe30f9454f3db07a
Craig Chilton is a documented liar.
James Riske
And you are a documented liar as the following message id clearly
demonstrates with 100% accuracy:
Message-ID: <yqOdnRuyO4S0Y0DV...@earthlink.com>
Direct link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/fe30f9454f3db07a
Craig Chilton is a documented liar.
--
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
<LIES flushed> Previous post follows...
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:24:24 -0700 (PDT),
Andrew Usher <k_over...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>> ... homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
>>>>> and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
>>>> And unless you are a gay person engaging in casual sex, NONE of
>>>> that is ANY of **your** business, control-freak.
>>> He just explained why. I didn't see you reply.
>> I DID reply. To BOTH of his posts. His "explanation" was specious.
> Sorry, I didn't see it. We were apparently writing our replies at the
> same time (see the timestamps). Nonetheless my point is valid: the only
> thing in your reply (besides you calling Riske a liar) was:
>>> This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
>>> hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV. Even though
>>> he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still present.
>> In SMALL enough numbers that it's not worth WHINING about.
> This is a ludicrous response. Are you saying HIV is nothing to worry
> about?
No. I'm saying that the risk of contracting it is VERY minimal
for those who practice Safe Sex WELL,
AND that Riske is one very obnoxious BUSYBODY when it comes
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas! <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>> Frisco Bath Houses Must be Closed!
>> Whoever intitated that thread needs to get a life.
>>
>> Only MORONS eek to interfere with OTHER people's pastimes.
>>
>> (And for the record, I'm straight. And I'm ALSO sensible
>> and fair enough to be an egalitarian defender of personal
>> liberties.)
<LIE-snip>
Andrew Usher
> AIDS is a serious problem but Mr. Riske is playing fast and loose with
> the report.
> The report says that there were 54,230 new cases of HIV
> infection reported in the USA in 2006. It states that 53% or 28,742
> of those new infections came from the category of men having sex with
> men. 25,488 cases were from heterosexual contact or drug use NOT men
> having sex with men. 15,184 new cases were among heterosexual men.
> The remainder of the cases were among women.
However, almost all the women acquired it through heterosexual
contact. That means they got in from men, who may have got it
through homosexual contact. So to be fair, we should measure
only cases among men in which 77% were MSM.
> The over all trend is that the number of new cases among men having
> sex with men is slowly dropping while the number of heterosexual cases
> continues to climb.
Where does it say this?
> Sadly it has been having its greatest impact in
> the minority communities where cultural taboos and stigma have been
> preventing effective HIV prevention programs. Additionally idiots
> like Mr. Riske who insist in painting HIV as a solely gay issue, have
> had a further negative impact as this tends to make it even harder
> for effective HIV prevention measures to take effect among
> heterosexual youth who have adopted the view that they are safe
> because HIV is "a gay disease".
Wrong. Mainstream propaganda does not claim AIDS to be a
'gay disease', it attempts to claim that we're all at risk from sex
and to avoid any emphasis on homosexuality or anal sex.
> They just do not take the matter
> seriously. In heterosexuals, new cases are more common in the 13 to
> 29 age group, particularly among minority youth.
So? I'm sure they're common among that age group of homosexuals,
as well.
> The greatest threat
> to HIV prevention in the heterosexual community continues to be morons
> like Mr. Riske.
There's no need for HIV prevention in 'the heterosexual community'.
That's just pro-gay deluded thinking.
Andrew Usher
Andrew Usher
the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> No. I'm saying that the risk of contracting it is VERY minimal
> for those who practice Safe Sex WELL,
No. You LIED because you initially said that there was no risk
(as Riske just showed) and now deny saying it.
Andrew Usher
juanjo
>
> And you are a documented liar as the following message id clearly
> demonstrates with 100% accuracy:
>
> Message-ID: <yqOdnRuyO4S0Y0DV...@earthlink.com>
>
> Direct link:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/fe30f94...
>
> Craig Chilton is a documented liar.
>
Mr. Riske is a well known liar, closet case and crank who delights in
posting articles from the CDC and then postulating "information" from
them that is not supported by the CDC article he posted. For example:
AIDS is a serious problem but Mr. Riske is playing fast and loose with
the report.
The report says that there were 54,230 new cases of HIV
infection reported in the USA in 2006. It states that 53% or 28,742
of those new infections came from the category of men having sex with
men. 25,488 cases were from heterosexual contact or drug use NOT men
having sex with men. 15,184 new cases were among heterosexual men.
The remainder of the cases were among women.
The over all trend is that the number of new cases among men having
sex with men is slowly dropping while the number of heterosexual cases
continues to climb. Sadly it has been having its greatest impact in
the minority communities where cultural taboos and stigma have been
preventing effective HIV prevention programs. Additionally idiots
like Mr. Riske who insist in painting HIV as a solely gay issue, have
had a further negative impact as this tends to make it even harder
for effective HIV prevention measures to take effect among
heterosexual youth who have adopted the view that they are safe
because HIV is "a gay disease". They just do not take the matter
seriously. In heterosexuals, new cases are more common in the 13 to
29 age group, particularly among minority youth. The greatest threat
James Riske
Indeed he did lie, and he is failing to accept any personal
responsibility for his lie.
juanjo
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
>
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:24:24 -0700 (PDT),
>
> Craig Chilton is a documented liar.
>
poster, James Riske.
James Riske
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:31:08 -0400,
> James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>> Loathsome Agendas! <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> Frisco Bath Houses Must be Closed!
>
>>> Whoever intitated that thread needs to get a life.
>>>
>>> Only MORONS eek to interfere with OTHER people's pastimes.
>>>
>>> (And for the record, I'm straight. And I'm ALSO sensible
>>> and fair enough to be an egalitarian defender of personal
>>> liberties.)
James Riske
> On Sep 27, 11:31 am, James Riske <james.ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And you are a documented liar as the following message id clearly
>> demonstrates with 100% accuracy:
>>
>> Message-ID: <yqOdnRuyO4S0Y0DV...@earthlink.com>
>>
>> Direct link:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/fe30f94...
>>
>> Craig Chilton is a documented liar.
>>
>
> Mr. Riske is a well known liar,
Then certainly you can post a verifiable message id to prove that I am
"a well known liar".
Why don't you at least back your words for once in your depraved life.
juanjo
> On Sep 27, 5:56 am, juanjo <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > AIDS is a serious problem but Mr. Riske is playing fast and loose with
> > the report.
> > The report says that there were 54,230 new cases of HIV
> > infection reported in the USA in 2006. It states that 53% or 28,742
> > of those new infections came from the category of men having sex with
> > men. 25,488 cases were from heterosexual contact or drug use NOT men
> > having sex with men. 15,184 new cases were among heterosexual men.
> > The remainder of the cases were among women.
>
> However, almost all the women acquired it through heterosexual
> contact. That means they got in from men, who may have got it
> through homosexual contact. So to be fair, we should measure
> only cases among men in which 77% were MSM.
Actually you are ignoring the fact that heterosexual transmission is
an ever increasing proportion of the transmission of HIV in the
statistics. The numbers indicate that 28% of male HIV infection is
now through heterosexual contact and that number continues to
increase. One need only go back and look through the historical data
to see this. Further MSM includes homosexuals but also other groups
including male prostitutes, bisexuals and imprisoned males.
>
> > The over all trend is that the number of new cases among men having
> > sex with men is slowly dropping while the number of heterosexual cases
> > continues to climb.
>
> Where does it say this?
You need to go back through the other data the CDC has to show the
historical trends in infections rates. At one time MSM were well over
98% of all new HIV cases and they have now dropped to 53% while
heterosexual cases have risen from less than 1% to almost 50%.
Infections through contaminated needles have dropped significantly
because of needle exchange programs while blood transfusion new
infections have virtually disappeared.
>
> > Sadly it has been having its greatest impact in
> > the minority communities where cultural taboos and stigma have been
> > preventing effective HIV prevention programs. Additionally idiots
> > like Mr. Riske who insist in painting HIV as a solely gay issue, have
> > had a further negative impact as this tends to make it even harder
> > for effective HIV prevention measures to take effect among
> > heterosexual youth who have adopted the view that they are safe
> > because HIV is "a gay disease".
>
> Wrong. Mainstream propaganda does not claim AIDS to be a
> 'gay disease', it attempts to claim that we're all at risk from sex
> and to avoid any emphasis on homosexuality or anal sex.
I am not talking about mainstream media. I am talking about idiots
like Mr. Riske and others who insist on claiming that AIDS is a solely
gay disease and push that agenda while resisting efforts to reach out
to people who are at risk. Anyone who has sex with a person they do
not know and whose past history they do not know is at risk of
becoming infected with HIV. Last I checked straight men still had sex
with prostitutes in this country. Many of the prostitutes are
infected with the virus yet straight men still believe that they can
have unprotected sex and not be at risk for HIV.
>
> > They just do not take the matter
> > seriously. In heterosexuals, new cases are more common in the 13 to
> > 29 age group, particularly among minority youth.
>
> So? I'm sure they're common among that age group of homosexuals,
> as well.
>
Actually if you read the report that is not true. New infections in
MSM are more common in the 29 to 39 category.
> > The greatest threat
> > to HIV prevention in the heterosexual community continues to be morons
> > like Mr. Riske.
>
> There's no need for HIV prevention in 'the heterosexual community'.
> That's just pro-gay deluded thinking.
The statistics prove you wrong.
>
> Andrew Usher
Andrew Usher
<snip>
Fucking moron, you keep posting exactly the same thing without
noting my criticisms of it.
Andrew Usher
Andrew Usher
> >In the US it's a homosexual thing as the CDC has already shown us.
>
> And if there were no homosexuals, there would be no HIV? Is that what
> you're saying? Seems more like if people (all people) practiced safe
> sex and stopped sharing needles and all the other dangerous, HIV
> transmitting practices, HIV would be practically eliminated.
Of course, these are not contradictory. They are likely both true.
Andrew Usher
Andrew Usher
> > However, almost all the women acquired it through heterosexual
> > contact. That means they got in from men, who may have got it
> > through homosexual contact. So to be fair, we should measure
> > only cases among men in which 77% were MSM.
>
> Actually you are ignoring the fact that heterosexual transmission is
> an ever increasing proportion of the transmission of HIV in the
> statistics. The numbers indicate that 28% of male HIV infection is
> now through heterosexual contact and that number continues to
> increase.
Wrong, the study says 13%.
> One need only go back and look through the historical data
> to see this. Further MSM includes homosexuals but also other groups
> including male prostitutes, bisexuals and imprisoned males.
I suppose you're one of those guys that says male prisoners
deserve to be raped. Or, I suppose all sex in prison is consensual?
> > > The over all trend is that the number of new cases among men having
> > > sex with men is slowly dropping while the number of heterosexual cases
> > > continues to climb.
>
> > Where does it say this?
>
> You need to go back through the other data the CDC has to show the
> historical trends in infections rates. At one time MSM were well over
> 98% of all new HIV cases and they have now dropped to 53% while
> heterosexual cases have risen from less than 1% to almost 50%.
And those heterosexual cases are mostly caused by black and
Hispanic men that have contact with both sexes.
> > > Sadly it has been having its greatest impact in
> > > the minority communities where cultural taboos and stigma have been
> > > preventing effective HIV prevention programs. Additionally idiots
> > > like Mr. Riske who insist in painting HIV as a solely gay issue, have
> > > had a further negative impact as this tends to make it even harder
> > > for effective HIV prevention measures to take effect among
> > > heterosexual youth who have adopted the view that they are safe
> > > because HIV is "a gay disease".
>
> > Wrong. Mainstream propaganda does not claim AIDS to be a
> > 'gay disease', it attempts to claim that we're all at risk from sex
> > and to avoid any emphasis on homosexuality or anal sex.
>
> I am not talking about mainstream media. I am talking about idiots
> like Mr. Riske and others who insist on claiming that AIDS is a solely
> gay disease and push that agenda while resisting efforts to reach out
> to people who are at risk.
That kind of stuff does not reach high-risk minority communities,
does it?
> Anyone who has sex with a person they do
> not know and whose past history they do not know is at risk of
> becoming infected with HIV. Last I checked straight men still had sex
> with prostitutes in this country. Many of the prostitutes are
> infected with the virus yet straight men still believe that they can
> have unprotected sex and not be at risk for HIV.
Actually, circumcised men have essentially no risk, see the
literature on circumcision.
> > > The greatest threat
> > > to HIV prevention in the heterosexual community continues to be morons
> > > like Mr. Riske.
>
> > There's no need for HIV prevention in 'the heterosexual community'.
> > That's just pro-gay deluded thinking.
>
> The statistics prove you wrong.
You're misusing them.
Andrew Usher
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
Andrew Usher <k_over...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
[ ... ]
>> No. I'm saying that the risk of contracting it is VERY minimal
>> for those who practice Safe Sex WELL, ...
> No. You LIED because you initially said that there was no risk
> (as Riske just showed) and now deny saying it.
That was not a lie, since I regarded the risk of contracting it
as he said in his convolutions to be SO minimal as not to be worthy of
consideration. And still do. He clearly is DESPERATE to do whatever
he can to disparage gays, and many things that are NONE of HIS
business. Brainless!!
>> ... AND that Riske is one very obnoxious BUSYBODY when it comes
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew Usher wrote:
>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> No. I'm saying that the risk of contracting it is VERY minimal
>>> for those who practice Safe Sex WELL,
>> No. You LIED because you initially said that there was no risk
>> (as Riske just showed) and now deny saying it.
> Indeed he did lie, and he is failing to accept any personal
> responsibility for his lie.
No I didn't. See my response to Usher.
DAMN, but you three control-freakish and brainless loons ought
to get together as a team. We could call you "The BUSYBODY Squad."
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
juanjo <jonp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> James Riske <james.ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>>>> Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> ... homosexuals have promiscuity rates that are truly jaw-dropping,
>>>>>>>> and according to CDC statistics they don't usually wear a condom.
>>>>>>> And unless you are a gay person engaging in casual sex, NONE of
>>>>>>> that is ANY of **your** business, control-freak.
>>>>>> He just explained why. I didn't see you reply.
>>>>> I DID reply. To BOTH of his posts. His "explanation" was specious.
>>>> Sorry, I didn't see it. We were apparently writing our replies at the
>>>> same time (see the timestamps). Nonetheless my point is valid: the only
>>>> thing in your reply (besides you calling Riske a liar) was:
>>>>>> This can go a number of routes, (ie gay passes to bi who passes to
>>>>>> hetero) most of which put heterosexuals in danger of HIV. Even though
>>>>>> he may not have unsafe sex with a homo the dangers are still present.
>>>>> In SMALL enough numbers that it's not worth WHINING about.
>>>> This is a ludicrous response. Are you saying HIV is nothing to worry
>>>> about?
>>> No. I'm saying that the risk of contracting it is VERY minimal
>>> for those who practice Safe Sex WELL,
>>>
>>> AND that Riske is one very obnoxious BUSYBODY when it comes
>>> to what OTHER people do in private.
>>>
>>> It's as I've said many times before -- if ALL of the BUSYBODYISM
>>> in the world vanished into extinction overnight, the world would be
>>> a WONDROUS place in the morning!
[ ... ]
>> Craig Chilton is a documented liar.
Wrong.
> But an even bigger liar is the noted homophobe, closet case and crank
> poster, James Riske.
Partial CORRECTION: Riske IS a liar, but *I*M am not, so that
"bigger" comparison doesn't apply.
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas! <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>> Frisco Bath Houses Must be Closed!
>> Whoever intitated that thread needs to get a life.
>>
>> Only MORONS eek to interfere with OTHER people's pastimes.
>>
>> (And for the record, I'm straight. And I'm ALSO sensible
>> and fair enough to be an egalitarian defender of personal
>> liberties.)
<LIE-snip>
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
James Riske <james...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ... in your depraved life.
"Depraved" is a very GOOD term to apply to mindless and busybodyish
control-freaks like you. There is NO EXCUSE for busybodyism. It is one
the he human race's most abjectly-STUPID behaviors.
If ALL busybodyism vanished into extinction overnight, the world would
be practically UTOPIAN in the morning!
juanjo
wrong, try again
juanjo
> On Sep 27, 6:06 pm, juanjo <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > However, almost all the women acquired it through heterosexual
> > > contact. That means they got in from men, who may have got it
> > > through homosexual contact. So to be fair, we should measure
> > > only cases among men in which 77% were MSM.
>
> > Actually you are ignoring the fact that heterosexual transmission is
> > an ever increasing proportion of the transmission of HIV in the
> > statistics. The numbers indicate that 28% of male HIV infection is
> > now through heterosexual contact and that number continues to
> > increase.
>
> Wrong, the study says 13%.
Read again sweetie.
>
> > One need only go back and look through the historical data
> > to see this. Further MSM includes homosexuals but also other groups
> > including male prostitutes, bisexuals and imprisoned males.
>
> I suppose you're one of those guys that says male prisoners
> deserve to be raped. Or, I suppose all sex in prison is consensual?
How do you get that conclusion from what I said? No one deserves to
be raped nor is all sex behind bars rape.
>
> > > > The over all trend is that the number of new cases among men having
> > > > sex with men is slowly dropping while the number of heterosexual cases
> > > > continues to climb.
>
> > > Where does it say this?
>
> > You need to go back through the other data the CDC has to show the
> > historical trends in infections rates. At one time MSM were well over
> > 98% of all new HIV cases and they have now dropped to 53% while
> > heterosexual cases have risen from less than 1% to almost 50%.
>
> And those heterosexual cases are mostly caused by black and
> Hispanic men that have contact with both sexes.
As I stated the number of men who have become infected through
heterosexual contact is increasing and continues to do so. Certainly
some of the women who were infected were infected by men having sex
with other men. But the data supplied does not support your
conclusion. Men do patronize prostitutes both in this country and in
others. HIV infected women prostitutes are well documented throughout
the world. That is equally likely as a vector for transmission of the
disease. MSM who then have sex with women is certainly another. But
that does not necessarily mean the men involved were homosexuals or
that all of them were. They could have been male prostitutes, drug
users or infected through heterosexual sexual contact in the US or
abroad.
>
>
> > > > Sadly it has been having its greatest impact in
> > > > the minority communities where cultural taboos and stigma have been
> > > > preventing effective HIV prevention programs. Additionally idiots
> > > > like Mr. Riske who insist in painting HIV as a solely gay issue, have
> > > > had a further negative impact as this tends to make it even harder
> > > > for effective HIV prevention measures to take effect among
> > > > heterosexual youth who have adopted the view that they are safe
> > > > because HIV is "a gay disease".
>
> > > Wrong. Mainstream propaganda does not claim AIDS to be a
> > > 'gay disease', it attempts to claim that we're all at risk from sex
> > > and to avoid any emphasis on homosexuality or anal sex.
>
> > I am not talking about mainstream media. I am talking about idiots
> > like Mr. Riske and others who insist on claiming that AIDS is a solely
> > gay disease and push that agenda while resisting efforts to reach out
> > to people who are at risk.
>
> That kind of stuff does not reach high-risk minority communities,
> does it?
What kind of "stuff" are you referring to?
>
> > Anyone who has sex with a person they do
> > not know and whose past history they do not know is at risk of
> > becoming infected with HIV. Last I checked straight men still had sex
> > with prostitutes in this country. Many of the prostitutes are
> > infected with the virus yet straight men still believe that they can
> > have unprotected sex and not be at risk for HIV.
>
> Actually, circumcised men have essentially no risk, see the
> literature on circumcision.
Only a fool would believe that based upon the research. They have a
lesser risk but the risk is still there.
>
> > > > The greatest threat
> > > > to HIV prevention in the heterosexual community continues to be morons
> > > > like Mr. Riske.
>
> > > There's no need for HIV prevention in 'the heterosexual community'.
> > > That's just pro-gay deluded thinking.
>
> > The statistics prove you wrong.
>
> You're misusing them.
>
Sorry sweetie but I am not. You simply do not want to admit you are
wrong.
Andrew Usher
> > > Actually you are ignoring the fact that heterosexual transmission is
> > > an ever increasing proportion of the transmission of HIV in the
> > > statistics. The numbers indicate that 28% of male HIV infection is
> > > now through heterosexual contact and that number continues to
> > > increase.
>
> > Wrong, the study says 13%.
>
> Read again sweetie.
Last sentence of the fourth paragraph of the original report:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm .
Liar.
> > > One need only go back and look through the historical data
> > > to see this. Further MSM includes homosexuals but also other groups
> > > including male prostitutes, bisexuals and imprisoned males.
>
> > I suppose you're one of those guys that says male prisoners
> > deserve to be raped. Or, I suppose all sex in prison is consensual?
>
> How do you get that conclusion from what I said? No one deserves to
> be raped nor is all sex behind bars rape.
So what? Your statement as still stupid, as gay sex is gay sex no
matter how it happens.
> > And those heterosexual cases are mostly caused by black and
> > Hispanic men that have contact with both sexes.
>
> As I stated the number of men who have become infected through
> heterosexual contact is increasing and continues to do so. Certainly
> some of the women who were infected were infected by men having sex
> with other men. But the data supplied does not support your
> conclusion. Men do patronize prostitutes both in this country and in
> others. HIV infected women prostitutes are well documented throughout
> the world. That is equally likely as a vector for transmission of the
> disease. MSM who then have sex with women is certainly another. But
> that does not necessarily mean the men involved were homosexuals or
> that all of them were. They could have been male prostitutes, drug
> users or infected through heterosexual sexual contact in the US or
> abroad.
If the number of men infected heterosexually is rising, it's only
because the proportion of women with HIV is. By definition, MSM
that then have sex with women are 'men that have contact with
both sexes' as I put it; whether they should be called 'homosexual'
is irrelevant. HIV doesn't care about such designations.
> > > I am not talking about mainstream media. I am talking about idiots
> > > like Mr. Riske and others who insist on claiming that AIDS is a solely
> > > gay disease and push that agenda while resisting efforts to reach out
> > > to people who are at risk.
>
> > That kind of stuff does not reach high-risk minority communities,
> > does it?
>
> What kind of "stuff" are you referring to?
The rhetoric claiming that HIV is 'a gay disease'.
> > > Anyone who has sex with a person they do
> > > not know and whose past history they do not know is at risk of
> > > becoming infected with HIV. Last I checked straight men still had sex
> > > with prostitutes in this country. Many of the prostitutes are
> > > infected with the virus yet straight men still believe that they can
> > > have unprotected sex and not be at risk for HIV.
>
> > Actually, circumcised men have essentially no risk, see the
> > literature on circumcision.
>
> Only a fool would believe that based upon the research. They have a
> lesser risk but the risk is still there.
You just said that the research is worthless if it conflicts with
your (biased) intuition. I hardly agree.
> > > The statistics prove you wrong.
>
> > You're misusing them.
>
> Sorry sweetie but I am not. You simply do not want to admit you are
> wrong.
Projection. Are you a woman or a fag?
Andrew Usher
Patriot Games
<jonp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Senator Craig for example is not a homosexual, just
>ask him! But he is man who has sex with other men
Cite?
>Then there
>are men in prison who in the absence of women will engage in sexual
>activity with other men, often in the form of rape.
Tell us about your prison experiences.
Patriot Games
> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
Patriot Games
<ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>"JumpsOnFire" <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:tluod4dj2j11ljd80...@4ax.com...
>> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm
>> September 12, 2008 / 57(36);985-989
>> "The male-to-male sexual contact transmission category represented 72%
>> of new infections among males, including 81% of new infections among
>> whites, 63% among blacks, and 72% among Hispanics. Among MSM, whites
>> had 46% of new infections, and blacks and Hispanics had 35% and 19%,
>> respectively."
>Much cut.
>..............and why did you post this?
Its a reminder that 5 out of 10 ghetto niggers and 2 out of 10 Beaners
have AIDS so this afternoon when you go down to the first floor men's
room looking for a cock-snack you'll select a white guy or a gook.
Be safe, fag.
Patriot Games
You are living proof that the genetic mutation of homosexuality is NOT
just limited to one's sexual orientation.
Dysperdis
You don't need prison experience to know this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html
--
http://www.fstdt.com/
Because some people just deserve to be mocked.
-Sean
RamRod Sword of Baal
"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
news:gf05e45q9hh2i6ptv...@4ax.com...
We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners' and as I am in a one to one
relationship, I do not go to 'the first floor men room' just to put you in
the picture.
We are not all like you.
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Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
Cheapskate bigot!
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"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
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Message-ID: <1f4mfa....@news.alt.net>
"The military already got all the available <black recruits> ones,
the rest of them are in prison. Maybe those Mexicans might come
in handy yet."
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Message-ID: <1o5ks0....@news.alt.net>
"q: what do a nigger and an apple got in common
a: both look good hanging from a tree"
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"I'm a devout Catholic and would like to see the Muslims start
stoking-up the ovens in Tel Aviv."
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Message-ID: <1158543753.0...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
"Sunday, April 15th is Holocaust Memorial Day. What is the appropriate
greeting one gives this day? Does one say "Happy Holocaust" or send
cards that read "Wish you were there"? I'm trying my best to be
politically correct."
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Message-ID: <1176087137.1...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
"Q: what's the difference between a jew and a pizza? A: pizza doesn't scream
when you put it in the oven.
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha ;-)"
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RamRod Sword of Baal
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
news:9jj5e49bueiou9qvk...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:44:47 -0400,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
>
>> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
>
> Cheapskate bigot!
>
It is fine for single people contributions help to pay for medical bills for
pregnancies, and all the children, but watch the bigots squawk if some gay
people want benefits.
Andrew Usher
> Simply to point out that you are lying about the incidence of AIDS
> cases among MSM in the US. No other reason.
Since they're fundamentally dishonest you'll never get them
to admit it.
Andrew Usher
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>>>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>>>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>>>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
>>> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
>> Cheapskate bigot!
> It is fine for single people contributions help to pay for medical
> bills for pregnancies, and all the children, but watch the bigots
> squawk if some gay people want benefits.
MOST people know, as we do, that such bigots are
PROFOUNDLY-ignorant losers. It's nice that he just keeps
right on PROVING that to everyone, since such constant
reminders of that help to raise the consciousness of society
AGAINST them. Thus shortenng the brief time remaining
between now and when their hate-agendas JOIN those of
the EQUALLY-moronic Segregationists -- in EXTINCTION.
-- Craig Chilton
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~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Their Inability to Answer THESE Two Questions
with FACTS Indicts the RRR Cult, and PROVES
it to be a Crowd of Ignorant & Hateful Bigots.
The questions that NO one who opposes fully-legal same-sex
marriage, has EVER, to the best of my knowledge, been able to
answer factually:
"If a same-sex couple that's been cohabitating in a
community for 20 years gets the right to become
legally married to one another, and then ties the knot,
HOW could that possibly be detrimental in ANY way
to the marriage of any opposite-sex couple in that
community?
And...
"Congress, and several states have passed so-called
"Defense of Marriage Acts" (DOMA). Just WHAT suppos-
edly-detrimental factor could possibly affect opposite-
sex couples' marriages negatively, which could thus
justify so draconian a law? What do such laws "defend"
opposite-sex marriage AGAINST? What is the THREAT?"
Hey!! RRR Cultists! Inquiring SENSIBLE minds want to know.
And as MarkSebree said on Aug. 7, 2008 --
Same sex marriage does not harm anyone, and does not
infringe on the rights of heterosexuals, and it does not confer
onto homosexuals any rights that heterosexuals do not already
have. Therefore, there is no valid argument against homosexuals
having the same right to marry the consenting single adult of their
choice in the same manner and for the same reasons as hetero-
sexuals currently enjoy, and having that marriage recognized as
legally valid and binding just as widely the marriage between a
heterosexual couple.
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rm...@my-deja.com
wrote:
> We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners' and as I am in a one to one
> relationship, I do not go to 'the first floor men room' just to put you in
> the picture.
>
> We are not all like you.
And what is quite clear is how obsessed these self-proclaimed
"conservatives" are with homosexuality and homosexual behaviour. Yet
they don't really want to address the problem of HIV infection. They
just want to talk about one particular method of transmission ad
nauseum. Are they repressed perhaps? All the signs are there.
rm...@my-deja.com
> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
Then we can expect the same objections to smoking, fast food, or the
poor lifestyle choices of others if one is so concered about health
insurance premiums. But in the end, it isn't about making a
consistent argument or health insurance premiums at all. If they were
really about reducing health insurance premiums, then they would have
done more to reign in an industry that has let costs increase
exponentially without oversight - and not because a few people need
HIV meds. It's all really abut a bunch of phony "conservative" busy
bodies who would rather divert attention from more meaningful issues -
and their obvious obsession with homosexuality.
juanjo
> On Sep 28, 7:01 pm, juanjo <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Actually you are ignoring the fact that heterosexual transmission is
> > > > an ever increasing proportion of the transmission of HIV in the
> > > > statistics. The numbers indicate that 28% of male HIV infection is
> > > > now through heterosexual contact and that number continues to
> > > > increase.
>
> > > Wrong, the study says 13%.
>
> > Read again sweetie.
>
> Last sentence of the fourth paragraph of the original report:
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm.
>
> Liar.
>
total infections [54,230]. My comment albeit poorly worded was
focused on the totals for males which were 72% for MSM and 28% for
heterosexual males. That is taking the totals for males as 100% of
which 72% are MSM. But I did make a math error for which I humbly
apologize. I put the total fopr heterosexual male new HIV infections
at 15,184 which was incorrect. It is 7049, the remiander being drug
abusers and other forms to transmission. I did not review the data
closely enough.
> > > > One need only go back and look through the historical data
> > > > to see this. Further MSM includes homosexuals but also other groups
> > > > including male prostitutes, bisexuals and imprisoned males.
>
> > > I suppose you're one of those guys that says male prisoners
> > > deserve to be raped. Or, I suppose all sex in prison is consensual?
>
> > How do you get that conclusion from what I said? No one deserves to
> > be raped nor is all sex behind bars rape.
>
> So what? Your statement as still stupid, as gay sex is gay sex no
> matter how it happens.
You are rather dense aren't you? I suggest you review the various
studies about same sex conduct among imprisoned populations. A
significant number of heterosexual males if isolated from females will
engage in same sex sexual activity either with each other or with
identified homosexuals.
.
>
> > > And those heterosexual cases are mostly caused by black and
> > > Hispanic men that have contact with both sexes.
>
> > As I stated the number of men who have become infected through
> > heterosexual contact is increasing and continues to do so. Certainly
> > some of the women who were infected were infected by men having sex
> > with other men. But the data supplied does not support your
> > conclusion. Men do patronize prostitutes both in this country and in
> > others. HIV infected women prostitutes are well documented throughout
> > the world. That is equally likely as a vector for transmission of the
> > disease. MSM who then have sex with women is certainly another. But
> > that does not necessarily mean the men involved were homosexuals or
> > that all of them were. They could have been male prostitutes, drug
> > users or infected through heterosexual sexual contact in the US or
> > abroad.
>
> If the number of men infected heterosexually is rising, it's only
> because the proportion of women with HIV is. By definition, MSM
> that then have sex with women are 'men that have contact with
> both sexes' as I put it; whether they should be called 'homosexual'
> is irrelevant. HIV doesn't care about such designations.
Your logic is inescapably wrong. I agree that HIV does not care about
the designations that human put on their own behaviour which is
precisely the issue here. I do not doubt that MSM who then have sex
with women is one form of contact. However you are ignoring the
reality of the situation as has Jimmy Riske. Drug users, especially
needle users are at very high risk for HIV infection. Many female
prostitutes are drug users and become HIV positive through that
route. If you doubt that ask the police of public health personnel in
any large city or population area. Straight men who then have
unprotected sex with those prostitutes are becoming infected with HIV
which they then bring home and infect their wives and girlfriends.
The women who become infected who then have sex with other men
transmit the infection to other heterosexual men.
Mr. Riske is intent on placing all blame for the transmission of HIV
on homosexual men. That is patently false and the data shows this.
>
> > > > I am not talking about mainstream media. I am talking about idiots
> > > > like Mr. Riske and others who insist on claiming that AIDS is a solely
> > > > gay disease and push that agenda while resisting efforts to reach out
> > > > to people who are at risk.
>
> > > That kind of stuff does not reach high-risk minority communities,
> > > does it?
>
> > What kind of "stuff" are you referring to?
>
> The rhetoric claiming that HIV is 'a gay disease'.
That bit of nonsense has been passing around the heterosexual
community since HIV was first isolated and diagnosed. This is one
issue that HIV educators have consistently had to deal with. If you
doubt it do a little reading among the various studies done.
>
> > > > Anyone who has sex with a person they do
> > > > not know and whose past history they do not know is at risk of
> > > > becoming infected with HIV. Last I checked straight men still had sex
> > > > with prostitutes in this country. Many of the prostitutes are
> > > > infected with the virus yet straight men still believe that they can
> > > > have unprotected sex and not be at risk for HIV.
>
> > > Actually, circumcised men have essentially no risk, see the
> > > literature on circumcision.
>
> > Only a fool would believe that based upon the research. They have a
> > lesser risk but the risk is still there.
>
> You just said that the research is worthless if it conflicts with
> your (biased) intuition. I hardly agree.
No I did not say that. You said circumcised males have essentially no
risk. The CDC has discussion of published studies on its website at
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm. Males
who are circumcised have a lesser risk from a low of 44% to a high of
58% than those who are uncircumcised. That is not essentially "no
risk" no matter how the data shakes out. Hence my comment "only a
foll would believe that based upon the research". I see we can
conclude you are a fool.
>
> > > > The statistics prove you wrong.
>
> > > You're misusing them.
>
> > Sorry sweetie but I am not. You simply do not want to admit you are
> > wrong.
>
> Projection. Are you a woman or a fag?
you say the sweetest things.
>
> Andrew Usher
juanjo
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:06:10 -0700 (PDT), juanjo
>
> >Senator Craig for example is not a homosexual, just
> >ask him! But he is man who has sex with other men
>
> Cite?
PG you are not that stupid. Even a fool like you has seen Craig's
televised interviews.
>
> >Then there
> >are men in prison who in the absence of women will engage in sexual
> >activity with other men, often in the form of rape.
>
> Tell us about your prison experiences.
You first.
juanjo
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:37:33 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
>
> <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
> >news:tluod4dj2j11ljd80...@4ax.com...
> >>http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm
> >> September 12, 2008 / 57(36);985-989
> >> "The male-to-male sexual contact transmission category represented 72%
> >> of new infections among males, including 81% of new infections among
> >> whites, 63% among blacks, and 72% among Hispanics. Among MSM, whites
> >> had 46% of new infections, and blacks and Hispanics had 35% and 19%,
> >> respectively."
> >Much cut.
> >..............and why did you post this?
>
> Its a reminder that 5 out of 10 ghetto niggers and 2 out of 10 Beaners
> have AIDS so this afternoon when you go down to the first floor men's
> room looking for a cock-snack you'll select a white guy or a gook.
>
> Be safe, fag.
So you are a racist in addition to being a homophobe. Not too
surprising.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>Patriot Games wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:06:10 -0700 (PDT), juanjo
>> <jonp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> Then there
>>> are men in prison who in the absence of women will engage in sexual
>>> activity with other men, often in the form of rape.
>> Tell us about your prison experiences.
>You don't need prison experience to know this.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
>http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html
So, to make sure we all understand....
The homo "juanjo" suggested that men (not women) will sometimes get
raped in prison and the homo "juanjo" was attempting to suggest that
most men are therefore fags.
That FACTS are: "...sexual slavery frequently poses as a consensual
sexual relationship. Rape victims are often intimidated into feigning
consent to sexual activity, to the point of becoming "slaves" and the
figurative property of their rapists. This occurs in both male and
female prisons."
Patriot Games
<jonp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Sep 30, 12:43 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:06:10 -0700 (PDT), juanjo
>> <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >Senator Craig for example is not a homosexual, just
>> >ask him! But he is man who has sex with other men
>> Cite?
>PG you are not that stupid. Even a fool like you has seen Craig's
>televised interviews.
You were instructed to CITE that Craig had "sex with other men."
You FAILED to CITE that Craig had "sex with other men."
You are a LIAR.
Patriot Games
<ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
>Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>news:9jj5e49bueiou9qvk...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:44:47 -0400,
>> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> [ ... ]
>>>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>>>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>>>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
>>> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
>> Cheapskate bigot!
>It is fine for single people contributions help to pay for medical bills for
>pregnancies, and all the children, but watch the bigots squawk if some gay
>people want benefits.
Fags get health insurance just like anyone else.
Are you stupid?
Patriot Games
>On Sep 30, 3:44 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
>Then we can expect the same objections to smoking, fast food, or the
>poor lifestyle choices of others if one is so concered about health
>insurance premiums.
No. AIDS is a death sentence. Smoking, fast food, etc., are not.
Patriot Games
<ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
>news:gf05e45q9hh2i6ptv...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:37:33 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
>> <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>>>"JumpsOnFire" <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tluod4dj2j11ljd80...@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm
>>>> September 12, 2008 / 57(36);985-989
>>>> "The male-to-male sexual contact transmission category represented 72%
>>>> of new infections among males, including 81% of new infections among
>>>> whites, 63% among blacks, and 72% among Hispanics. Among MSM, whites
>>>> had 46% of new infections, and blacks and Hispanics had 35% and 19%,
>>>> respectively."
>>>Much cut.
>>>..............and why did you post this?
>> Its a reminder that 5 out of 10 ghetto niggers and 2 out of 10 Beaners
>> have AIDS so this afternoon when you go down to the first floor men's
>> room looking for a cock-snack you'll select a white guy or a gook.
>> Be safe, fag.
>We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners'
Correct.
From: "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.222.234.171
121.222.234.171 = Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
>We are not all like you.
Correct. Only about 96% of people are like me.....
Patriot Games
>On Sep 30, 4:37 pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
>wrote:
>> We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners' and as I am in a one to one
>> relationship, I do not go to 'the first floor men room' just to put you in
>> the picture.
>> We are not all like you.
>just want to talk about one particular method of transmission ad
>nauseum.
48% of new AIDS case in America are fags.
>Are they repressed perhaps? All the signs are there.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!
Patriot Games
Be safe, fag.
Dysperdis
Learn to read.
Juanjo was pointing out that MSM includes men who do not identify as
homosexual or bisexual, and who may not generally be attracted to men.
The fact that such scenarios occur among women as well is immaterial, as
the discussion is focused on MSM.
Are you naturally this stupid, or did you have to work at it?
--
"[E]ven the most familiar and generally accepted of social practices and
traditions often mask an unfairness and inequality that frequently is
not recognized or appreciated by those not directly harmed by those
practices or traditions." ~California Supreme Court decision regarding
same-sex marriage
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S147999.PDF
-Sean
RamRod Sword of Baal
"Dysperdis" <dysp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:s5RFk.18814$%t.9...@newsfe01.iad...
Of course MSM also includes men who do not think of themselves as Gay or Bi,
but are married, but do not get enough sex at home.
You will find these men at steam baths, toilets and truck stops having quick
sex. It is convenient for them, there is no cost (except for steam baths)
and if they wanted a woman it would be much more expensive and there is
always the chance that the little woman at home will wonder where that money
has gone. Time is also a factor, you cannot wine and dine a woman in 5
minutes and expect sex.
Of course the bigot brigade generally speaking do not believe that these
people exist, but prior to HIV there were heaps at the steam baths during
lunch time.
Maybe they still go there...........
Dysperdis
Then there's the guys who, while completely convinced of their
heterosexuality, pick up male prostitutes- again, this is possibly due
to convenience, curiosity, or simply being so desperate to have sex that
they've moved beyond caring whether the receptive partner is male or
female.
And let's not forget TS prostitutes- encounters with pre-op transwomen
would likely be considered MSM, even if the Johns ignore that appendage.
After all, it's not like they'd have to acknowledge it to receive a
blowjob, or to have anal sex with the prostitute. Many TS prostitutes do
their best *not* to remind their customers that they're anatomically
male, from what I've read.
The commonality between all these situations, though, is the fact that
these people aren't representative of the average out gay male, yet
still fit into the category of MSM, which is the point Juanjo was trying
to make.
Personally, I'd love to get my hands on some statistics to see how
certain factors- number of partners, condom usage, etc.- differs from
the average among out gay males in the US.
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>>> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>>>>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>>>>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>>>>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
>>>> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
>>> Cheapskate bigot!
>> It is fine for single people contributions help to pay for medical bills for
>> pregnancies, and all the children, but watch the bigots squawk if some gay
>> people want benefits.
> [Gays] get health insurance just like anyone else.
>
> Are you stupid?
So do TENS OF MILLIONS **more** cigarette smokers,
alcoholics, and gluttons.
So it is YOU who is ABYSMALLY stupid.
(As usual. No surprise, since ALL bigots are ignoramuses.)
-- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)
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juanjo
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:27:11 -0700, Dysperdis <dysper...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Patriot Games wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:06:10 -0700 (PDT), juanjo
> >> <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>> Then there
> >>> are men in prison who in the absence of women will engage in sexual
> >>> activity with other men, often in the form of rape.
> >> Tell us about your prison experiences.
> >You don't need prison experience to know this.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
> >http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html
>
> So, to make sure we all understand....
>
> The homo "juanjo" suggested that men (not women) will sometimes get
> raped in prison and the homo "juanjo" was attempting to suggest that
> most men are therefore fags.
Of course that is definitely NOT what I said at all. In fact if you
were to bother to actually read what I wrote, it clearly states that
the CDC in gathering data included other categories of men besides gay
men in a more general category termed "men having sex with men" which
among others included men who while imprisoned were raped, or who
engaged in consensual same sex activity.
The fact you did not bother to read indicates that you are simply a
larger jackass than previously believed.
juanjo
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:20:49 -0700 (PDT), juanjo
>
You are a joke.
juanjo
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:37:27 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
>
>
>
> <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
> >news:gf05e45q9hh2i6ptv...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:37:33 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
> >> <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
> >>>news:tluod4dj2j11ljd80...@4ax.com...
> >>>>http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5736a1.htm
> >>>> September 12, 2008 / 57(36);985-989
> >>>> "The male-to-male sexual contact transmission category represented 72%
> >>>> of new infections among males, including 81% of new infections among
> >>>> whites, 63% among blacks, and 72% among Hispanics. Among MSM, whites
> >>>> had 46% of new infections, and blacks and Hispanics had 35% and 19%,
> >>>> respectively."
> >>>Much cut.
> >>>..............and why did you post this?
> >> Its a reminder that 5 out of 10 ghetto niggers and 2 out of 10 Beaners
> >> have AIDS so this afternoon when you go down to the first floor men's
> >> room looking for a cock-snack you'll select a white guy or a gook.
> >> Be safe, fag.
> >We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners'
>
> Correct.
>
> From: "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.222.234.171
> 121.222.234.171 = Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
>
> >We are not all like you.
>
> Correct. Only about 96% of people are like me.....
you misplaced a decimal. Only .00096% of people are like you.
juanjo
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:08:33 -0700 (PDT), r...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >On Sep 30, 3:44 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
> >Then we can expect the same objections to smoking, fast food, or the
> >poor lifestyle choices of others if one is so concered about health
> >insurance premiums.
>
> No. AIDS is a death sentence. Smoking, fast food, etc., are not.
Lung cancer caused by smoking kills over 160,000 people in the United
States every year. It is the most common form of death among all
cancers.
rm...@my-deja.com
> > No. AIDS is a death sentence. Smoking, fast food, etc., are not.
>
> Lung cancer caused by smoking kills over 160,000 people in the United
> States every year. It is the most common form of death among all
> cancers.
Yes, true. And it shows that their argument is not about health
insurance premiums at all. There are significant ways to help reduce
insurance premiums. However, these phony "conservative" busy bodies
would rather toss up red herrings like HIV as the reason for increased
expenses. Fortunately, some of us can see through those lies and
distortions.
rm...@my-deja.com
> Correct. Only about 96% of people are like me.....
No. 96% of people don't make bigoted and unsubstantiated arguments.
Nice try.
"Patriot Games" = all games, no patriot
rm...@my-deja.com
> So you are a racist in addition to being a homophobe. Not too
> surprising.
And a wee-publican supporter too, no doubt.
rm...@my-deja.com
> 48% of new AIDS case in America are fags.
No proof that it contributes, however, to rising insurance premiums.
And it's not as though the RRR phony "conservative" contingent is
prepared to do tangible things about either HIV infections or rising
health care costs.
> Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!
Laugh all you want. We laugh AT you, not with you.
4square
Yes, you who view the world through your rose colored homosexual glasses.
******
AIDS Spending: When is Enough Enough?
By Michael Fumento
"The proportion of Americans who consider HIV/AIDS to be the "most
urgent health problem facing this nation today" has decreased from 38%
in 1997 to 17% in 2002." So laments former Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention (CDC) HIV/AIDS director Dr. Harold Jaffe in the August
27 issue of Science. While lauding the U.S. overseas effort, he insists
"We must ask ourselves why we, collectively, don't care more about the
domestic epidemic."
To a great extent Dr. Jaffe, now with the Department of Public Health
at Oxford University in England, literally illustrates why AIDS should
be eliciting less concern and funding. In the article's sole graph, he
shows new diagnoses peaked a full decade ago and are now barely half
the rate as then. Deaths peaked slightly later and have declined about
75 percent.
About 16,000 Americans died from AIDS in 2002, approximately half the
number that die annually from flu. Meanwhile, over half a million die
from cancer yearly, with the butcher's bill for incurable pancreatic
cancer alone about twice that as for AIDS. According to the CDC,
435,000 Americans die each year from tobacco-related disease and
another 400,000 from poor diet and lack of exercise. (Though arguably
those last two figures are exaggerated.)
What Dr. Jaffe views with alarm actually reflects a decrease in
national hysteria. It's obscene that almost a fifth of Americans still
consider AIDS our prime health problem when heart disease, which kills
700,000 Americans annually, gets a worry rating of merely eight percent.
Dr. Jaffe valiantly uses a number of hoary old tricks to exaggerate the
AIDS problem, but all crumble into dust when exposed to the rays of the
sun.
For example instead of comparing deaths from AIDS to other diseases,
Dr. Jaffe compares them to war deaths. That's hardly fair since even in
the bloodiest days of the Civil War or World War II, disease deaths
have vastly outweighed those from combat.
Then he hits us with the one AIDS figure that's actually going up, that
of people living with the disease. Yet this merely reflects the good
news that fewer people with HIV/AIDS are dying from the disease. Which
would he prefer?
Dr. Jaffe notes the disparate impact on minorities, that "AIDS cases
rates are 10 times higher in African-Americans than in white
Americans." But if he tossed away his AIDS tunnel vision he would
acknowledge that more than eight times as many blacks die of cancer
than of AIDS. In fact, more than four times as many blacks die of
cancer annually than Americans of all races die of AIDS.
Although AIDS cases and deaths are declining and the disease remains
completely preventable, it nonetheless gets almost $180,000 in research
funds per death from the National Institutes of Health. Compare that to
its closest rivals: Parkinson's disease, prostate cancer, and diabetes.
All of these receive about $14,000 per death. Alzheimer's gets about
$11,000. Yet Dr. Jaffe bemoans that the CDC HIV/AIDS budget has not
kept up with inflation over the last few years. So a minimum 13-to-1
spending ratio over any other disease somehow isn't enough.
Further, it's possible we've already reached the point where HIV
infection has become a controllable disease, especially for those with
recent diagnoses. That's hardly the case with Parkinson's or
Alzheimer's.
And that only includes medical research funding. Each year under the
"Ryan White CARE" legislation, which Congress unanimously re-authorized
in 2000, approximately $2 billion in taxpayer funds are doled out to
AIDS patients for medicine, housing, meals, cash payments, dental care,
and a vast panoply of goods and services. Victims of no other disease
have any such entitlement.
And yet as Dr. Jaffe's complaint makes clear, for the activists and
bureaucrats nothing we say or do or spend will ever be enough. To which
we must finally respond: Enough!
juanjo
Well we know Gameboy is a compete jerk off
4square
> On Oct 4, 1:06 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>
>> 48% of new AIDS case in America are fags.
>
> No proof that it contributes, however, to rising insurance premiums.
> And it's not as though the RRR phony "conservative" contingent is
> prepared to do tangible things about either HIV infections or rising
> health care costs.
And we know from more than a quarter of a century of their being the
No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the US that homosexual males are not going
to change their promiscuous and grossly unsafe sexual habits that is
the cause of the continued epidemic of the disease.
>
>> Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!
>
> Laugh all you want. We laugh AT you, not with you.
Homosexuals laugh while imposing death sentences on one another through
their unabated spread of HIV/AIDS -- Idiots laugh at the strangest
things.
4square
<ram...@truthonly.com> said:
>
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
> Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:9jj5e49bueiou9qvk...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:44:47 -0400,
>> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's
>>> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanad...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>> (2) Although it's a shame that HIV/AIDS even EXISTS,
>>>> the fact that people happen to contract it by having
>>>> unsafe sex is NONE of his business.
>>
>>> If he pays a health insurance premium it IS his business.
>>
>> Cheapskate bigot!
>>
>
>
> It is fine for single people contributions help to pay for medical
> bills for pregnancies, and all the children, but watch the bigots
> squawk if some gay people want benefits.
But you demands benefits for your continued sexual promiscuity and the
contracting of entirely preventable disease related to such gross
behavior.
rm...@my-deja.com
> Well we know Gameboy is a compete jerk off
And a sock puppet who goes under various monikers to make it look like
there are more bigots.
rm...@my-deja.com
> entirely preventable disease related to such gross behavior.
Like red state RRR slobs who over eat, smoke, or drink alcohol.
Hypocrites.
BE-VA
So you think those habits are as dangerous as yours; 'Being ass fucked
by the homosexual you met two hours before in a gay bar?'
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas!
BE-VA <blackwater...@testland.org> wrote:
> <rm...@my-deja.com> said:
>> 4square <v7...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> ...entirely preventable disease related to such gross behavior.
>> Like red state RRR slobs who over eat, smoke, or drink alcohol.
>> Hypocrites.
> So you think those habits are as dangerous as yours; 'Being ass-f*cked
> by the homosexual you met two hours before in a gay bar?'
How about: NO ONE else's busininess but those having consensual
sex? NO one's. Especially not of utterly MINDLESS and BRAINLESS
little bigoted twerps like you.
No wonder society is RAPIDLY coming to regard homophobes as the
laughingstock-losers that you are. You jerks just keep right on PROVING
to everyone that you ARE laughingstock-losers.
-- Craig Chilton
xana...@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Their Inability to Answer THESE Two Questions
with FACTS Indicts the RRR Cult, and PROVES
it to be a Crowd of Ignorant & Hateful Bigots.
The questions that NO one who opposes fully-legal same-sex
marriage, has EVER, to the best of my knowledge, been able to
answer factually:
"If a same-sex couple that's been cohabitating in a
community for 20 years gets the right to become
legally married to one another, and then ties the knot,
HOW could that possibly be detrimental in ANY way
to the marriage of any opposite-sex couple in that
community?
And...
"Congress, and several states have passed so-called
"Defense of Marriage Acts" (DOMA). Just WHAT suppos-
edly-detrimental factor could possibly affect opposite-
sex couples' marriages negatively, which could thus
justify so draconian a law? What do such laws "defend"
opposite-sex marriage AGAINST? What is the THREAT?"
Hey!! RRR Cultists! Inquiring SENSIBLE minds want to know.
And as MarkSebree said on Aug. 7, 2008 --
Same sex marriage does not harm anyone, and does not
infringe on the rights of heterosexuals, and it does not confer
onto homosexuals any rights that heterosexuals do not already
have. Therefore, there is no valid argument against homosexuals
having the same right to marry the consenting single adult of their
choice in the same manner and for the same reasons as hetero-
sexuals currently enjoy, and having that marriage recognized as
legally valid and binding just as widely the marriage between a
heterosexual couple.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
juanjo
Game Boy: Even living under that rock in the back woods swamp behind
the trailer park in Alabama that you call home, you are aware of the
fact that Senator Craig was arrested and ultimately plead guilty to a
solicitation charge. He also has denied that he is gay and a simple
search on Youtube would produce film clips where he states this.
There are also men who have come forward and stated that they have
engaged in same gender sexual acts with him in the past both in
Washington DC and in his home state of Idaho. These have been
reported in the newspapers in Boise and around the nation. I assume
that you can read and are aware of these matters. Calling me a liar
because I do not bother to do a simple Google search you are too lazy
to do and which you know will turn up the references I have mentioned
does not make me a liar. It does show that you are an idiot as well
as a bigot.
juanjo
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT), r...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >On Sep 30, 4:37 pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
> >wrote:
> >> We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners' and as I am in a one to one
> >> relationship, I do not go to 'the first floor men room' just to put you in
> >> the picture.
> >> We are not all like you.
> >Yet they don't really want to address the problem of HIV infection. They
> >just want to talk about one particular method of transmission ad
> >nauseum.
>
> 48% of new AIDS case in America are fags.
>
include homosexuals among others including prostitutes, rape victims
and others. I know you are too stupid to understand the distinction
but none the less it does matter.
juanjo
> On 2008-10-06 17:26:20 -0400, r...@my-deja.com said:
>
> > On Oct 6, 1:50 pm, 4square <v7...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> entirely preventable disease related to such gross behavior.
>
> > Like red state RRR slobs who over eat, smoke, or drink alcohol.
> > Hypocrites.
>
> So you think those habits are as dangerous as yours;
Apparently they are given that far more people die from them than die
from AIDs in any given year.
> 'Being ass fucked
> by the homosexual you met two hours before in a gay bar?'
I don't need to know about your social life.
rm...@my-deja.com
<nothing of consequence>
Oh lookie, it's the WBT army of one troll playing the fool again -
this time as "BE-VA."
Patriot Games
None of which are incurable.
Patriot Games
Pay attention, fag.
Patriot Games
The only thing you can see through is the cock-flap of your
boyfriend's underwear.
AIDS drugs are among the MOST expensive drugs around AND they must be
taken every single day FOREVER.
Its just a fact.
We should probably round up all Fags and test each one, tattooing
their forehead according to their test results.
Patriot Games
No, cocklip, I only use THIS name....
Patriot Games
>On Oct 4, 1:06 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> 48% of new AIDS case in America are fags.
>No proof that it contributes, however, to rising insurance premiums.
You think AIDS treatment is free?
>And it's not as though the RRR phony "conservative" contingent is
>prepared to do tangible things about either HIV infections or rising
>health care costs.
>> Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!
>Laugh all you want. We laugh AT you, not with you.
After we round you up and test you and tattoo your forehead will it
read: HIV+ or HIV- ???
Patriot Games
<jonp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Oct 4, 10:06 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT), r...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> >On Sep 30, 4:37 pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> We do not have 'ghetto niggers' nor 'beaners' and as I am in a one to one
>> >> relationship, I do not go to 'the first floor men room' just to put you in
>> >> the picture.
>> >> We are not all like you.
>> >Yet they don't really want to address the problem of HIV infection. They
>> >just want to talk about one particular method of transmission ad
>> >nauseum.
>> 48% of new AIDS case in America are fags.
>No Game Boy, that number is for men having sex with men which does
>include homosexuals among others including prostitutes, rape victims
>and others.
Just because some Fag paid to suck some Fag's dick doesn't make either
one of them more or less Fag.
Are you claiming there are Fag Gangs roaming the streets raping men's
buttholes? Sounds like all the more reason to round up all the Fags.
>I know you are too stupid to understand the distinction
>but none the less it does matter.
It doesn't matter at all UNTIL YOU can put some numbers with it.
Patriot Games
Oh, you're sooo funny......
Listen, normal heterosexual white people, like myself, would like to
know something the strange dark and perverted world of yours.
With a name like "Juan" you must be a Beaner. So, as a Beaner Fag do
you mostly date Beaners or Negros?