MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED with BIGOTS. **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
Today, the whole world was reminded that the USA is still a
repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
Jim Crow hate and segregation.
UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
to do with us as possible!
To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
us. Treat us as the PARIAH to the world that we truly ARE!!
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��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
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"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
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>
>
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
.... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome. There are
laws to prevent siblings marrying each other, and there are laws
to prevent fathers marrying their daughters. Similarly, there are
laws to prevent queers marrying each other as well. The vast
majority of normal people don't want to give their moral and
legal support to queers who demand it from them and class all
those who are against doing it as homophobes, bigots, or some
other derogatory name. No, America, like Britain, refuses to
accept same sex marriage, and it's a great day because of that.
Jimbo
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
>
>
>
> > MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
>
> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome.
Nonsense.
Mark
"Jimbo" <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6e056bb4-320a-470a...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome. There are
>> laws to prevent siblings marrying each other, and there are laws
>> to prevent fathers marrying their daughters. Similarly, there are
>> laws to prevent queers marrying each other as well. The vast
>> majority of normal people don't want to give their moral and
>> legal support to queers who demand it from them and class all
>> those who are against doing it as homophobes, bigots, or some
>> other derogatory name. No, America, like Britain, refuses to
>> accept same sex marriage, and it's a great day because of that.
>
> Nonsense.
Not at all; the voting figures speak for themselves. Queers argue
that because same-sex marriage doesn't affect anyone else, there
should be no opposition to it. But what queers fail to understand
is that their moral and legal demands do affect others, of course,
and the vast majority who could be bothered to vote has voted
against them and their demands. They demand tolerance but
give none in return to those who oppose them. They call them
hateful bigots and homophobes instead of actually tolerating
them the way they demand to be tolerated. Marriage is for men
and women, not queers.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Marriage is for men and women, ...
...men and men, and women and women.
The TRIVIALITY of gender composition is NO reason to be
HATEFUL to people.
And in ALL of THESE places, people KNOW that.
And the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
� Netherlands (as of 2001)
� Belgium (2003)
� Massachusetts (2004)
� Canada (2005)
� Spain (2005)
� South Africa (2005)
� Norway (2008)
� Connecticut (2008)
� New York ** (2008)
...and getting very CLOSE in 2009.
� Iowa (2009)
� Vermont (2009)
� Sweden (2009)
� New Hampshire (2009)
� Washington, D.C.** (2009)
� New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
� Hungary: PENDING in 2009
� Albania: PENDING in 2009
� Australia: 60% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
� Britain: 61% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
for couples legally married outside of the
state/district/country.
Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
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��� George Richard Tiller, MD ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
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Mark
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
message news:gqr3f5tq8p9tkmd68...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:32:15 -0000,
> "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>> > MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
>>>>
>>>> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome. There are
>>>> laws to prevent siblings marrying each other, and there are laws
>>>> to prevent fathers marrying their daughters. Similarly, there are
>>>> laws to prevent queers marrying each other as well. The vast
>>>> majority of normal people don't want to give their moral and
>>>> legal support to queers who demand it from them and class all
>>>> those who are against doing it as homophobes, bigots, or some
>>>> other derogatory name. No, America, like Britain, refuses to
>>>> accept same sex marriage, and it's a great day because of that.
>>>
>>> Nonsense.
>>
>> Not at all; the voting figures speak for themselves. Queers argue
>> that because same-sex marriage doesn't affect anyone else, there
>> should be no opposition to it. But what queers fail to understand
>> is that their moral and legal demands do affect others, of course,
>> and the vast majority who could be bothered to vote has voted
>> against them and their demands. They demand tolerance but
>> give none in return to those who oppose them. They call them
>> hateful bigots and homophobes instead of actually tolerating
>> them the way they demand to be tolerated. Marriage is for men
>> and women, not queers.
>
> ...men and men, and women and women.
No. Every state that was given the chance to vote voted against
them. You don't like it, but that's just tough. Get used to it.
Calling those who voted against it childish names is, well, childish
and shows that it is you who is bigoted and full of hate.
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
how two blokes down the block getting married will affect my 27 year
marriage to my wife.
Go on tough guy, explain it. No one else has, so let us see you,
explain what you claim.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://azhotops.blogspot.com
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
BAAWA Knight Sir Karl of the Solaris Media
____________________________________________________________________
william mosco
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
> Today, the whole world was reminded that the USA is still a
> repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
> than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
> Jim Crow hate and segregation.
>
> UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
> to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
> to do with us as possible!
>
> To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
> in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
> us. Treat us as the PARIAH to the world that we truly ARE!!
Isn't it funny that when the liberal process of referendum backfires
on them they scream and cry like babies?
I'm sure if the referendum was about firearms and the voted to nullify
the 2nd amendment, liberals would be jumping for joy...
Dänk 1010011010
" <x...@m.com> wrote:
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
> Today, the whole world was reminded that the USA is still a
> repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
> than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
> Jim Crow hate and segregation.
Leftists are always babbling on about 'democracy' and the 'will of the
people,' but are unwilling to accept democratic outcomes they disagree
with.
As for same-sex marriage being a constitutional right, the rampaging
mobs of Obama-bleating leftards that have seized control do not seem
particularly concerned about the Constitution when it hinders their
efforts to impose socialism on the American people.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
"Because of their need for rebellion and for membership in a movement,
leftists or persons of similar psychological type are often attracted
to a rebellious or activist movement whose goals and membership are
not initially leftist. The resulting influx of leftish types can
easily turn a non-leftist movement into a leftist one, so that leftist
goals replace or distort the original goals of the movement."
-- Industrial Society and Its Future
Wayne
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
message news:gjj3f5di5bhrm6dmi...@4ax.com...
>
>
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
makes you a bigot. What a crock.
ilbe...@gmail.com
" <x...@m.com> wrote:
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
> Today, the whole world was reminded that the USA is still a
> repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
> than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
> Jim Crow hate and segregation.
>
> UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
> to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
> to do with us as possible!
>
> To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
> in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
> us. Treat us as the PARIAH to the world that we truly ARE!!
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> ••• Rest in Peace •••
> ••• George Richard Tiller, MD •••
> ••• A True American HERO! •••
> ••• August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009 •••
> ••• Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com •••
>
>
> Yeah. We KILL our HEROES, too!!!
>
>
> www.LayoffRemedy.com-- Unemployment Solution!
> www.ChristianEgalitarian.com-- Fight the RRR Cult!
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CowChips !!! Maine knows like the rest of the Nation (incl. the
Homosexuals themselves) that perverted sex is and always has been
wrong, intrinsically. Maine is declaring that emotional healing
from the past should be sought for Homosexuality instead of condoning
it thru the blessing of Marriage . Its an emotionally-rooted problem
that many have gotton freed from , but it requires the person to put
his/her pride aside and to admit that it is not a proper or good
lifestyle . Only then can the healing and recovery take place. To try
and round up willing participants so you dont have to work on the
deviancy, is not admissable . Theres healing centers in every major
city of the world for the addiction to homosexuality .... people who
understand the addiction and who will lovingly help you on the right
path. , IF you want that .
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Marriage is for men and women, ...
...men and men, and women and women.
The TRIVIALITY of gender composition is NO reason to be
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
<flush>
Previous post follows:
MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
Today, the whole world was reminded that the USA is still a
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Which, of course, has absolutely NOTHING with gays, or
the ways they have sex. Tens of MILLIONS of American
HETEROsexual couples practice the SAME sex acts!
Want to discuss ACTUAL perverted sex? Go take your
your whines to some group that is discussing having sex
with minors.
pandora
"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:Ub-dnfq_Q6tPeWzX...@bt.com...
Are not queers men and women too?
Uncle Vic
>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
>
> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome.
Gawd Bless the USA. Eh?
Remember when the vast majority wouldn't allow wimmin or niggers to vote?
This very year we had a female presidential candidate, and we now have a
negro president.
Do you see this as moving forward? Or do you still find wimmin and niggers
disgusting and loathsome?
Some day your kind will catch up to the norm. In the meantime, enjoy that
burger flipping job and that bachelor apartment, moron.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
Uncle Vic
wrote:
> CowChips !!! Maine knows like the rest of the Nation (incl. the
> Homosexuals themselves) that perverted sex is and always has been
> wrong, intrinsically.
Good for you, you moral gem. I'm proud of you. I'd be even prouder if
you'd quit projecting your bible-tainted morals on the rest of society
where they are not wanted.
<snippety-snip>
martin
> CowChips !!! Maine knows like the rest of the Nation (incl. the
> Homosexuals themselves) that perverted sex is and always has been
> wrong, intrinsically.
"Perverted sex", hmm ok, let's run with it for a while. Could you please
tell us all what it is you believe homosexuals do that heterosexuals
don't do?
Moral America Still Stands Tall
news:KcadnapmBub492_X...@scnresearch.com:
>
> "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:Ub-dnfq_Q6tPeWzX...@bt.com...
>>
>> Not at all; the voting figures speak for themselves. Queers argue
>> that because same-sex marriage doesn't affect anyone else, there
>> should be no opposition to it. But what queers fail to understand
>> is that their moral and legal demands do affect others, of course,
>> and the vast majority who could be bothered to vote has voted
>> against them and their demands. They demand tolerance but
>> give none in return to those who oppose them. They call them
>> hateful bigots and homophobes instead of actually tolerating
>> them the way they demand to be tolerated. Marriage is for men
>> and women, not queers.
>
> Are not queers men and women too?
In their fucked up minds they can be anything they want, but a decent
society has the right to draw the line at the absurd.
That's exactly what a queer marriage is, absurd.
Jimbo
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
Civil rights are not the purview of mob rule. Eventually, there will
be same sex marriage across the country.
Kadaitcha Man
ye published:
> "Perverted sex", hmm ok, let's run with it for a while.
COOL!
<cracks a magnum of brut de brut>
Bend over, Ducky!
<hides broken glass>
--
The fault is caused by the subspace energy-phase detransmuting
controller. You can either disintegrate the frequency conduit with a
chronogrinder, or uncoil the guidance torpedo launcher with a
unibearing.
Bill Taylor
Too bad they can't do anything about your mind.
duke
<www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote:
>
>
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
You lost, cc.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
[[[ DISREGARD the LYING subject header above, by the
moronic bigot, Bill Taylor. See ACTUAL post, below. ]]] ===
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:06:56 +0100,
SUBMORONIC Bigot, Bill Taylor <nob...@nymu.eu> spewed...
...nothing but IDIOCY. (The usual, for him)
<flush>
HEADS-UP to the REST of the World:
The USA is **INFESTED** with BIGOTS!!
When the majority of the voters in the State of Maine *proved*
their bigotry on November 3rd, that was a reminder of the fact that
dozens of other U.S states are every bit as bigoted. And the world's
MOST **ignorant** people are its hateful bigots. **SHAME** on
most of the USA!!
This serves as a reminder to the world that the USA is still a
repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
Jim Crow hate and segregation.
UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
to do with us as possible!
To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
us. If you plan tourism overseas, DON'T bring your Euros or other
currency HERE. There are OTHER interesting places in the world
to visit -- BETTER ones that have a far LOWER percentage of
hateful and mindless bigots!
Treat us -- the USA -- as the PARIAH to the world that we
truly still ARE!! REJECT this loathsome nation!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD* ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
* (Yeah. Some of our bigots KILL our HEROES, too!!!)
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
HEADS-UP to the REST of the World ---
BOYCOTT the BIGOT-INFESTED U.S.A.!
When the majority of the voters in the State of Maine *proved*
their bigotry on November 3rd, that was a reminder of the fact that
dozens of other U.S states are every bit as bigoted. And the world's
MOST **ignorant** people are its hateful bigots. **SHAME** on
most of the USA!!
This serves as a reminder to the world that the USA is still a
repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
Jim Crow hate and segregation.
UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
to do with us as possible!
To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
["IMMoral America is Screwed Up! ]<comef...@live.com> wrote:
> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
>> Are not queers men and women too?
> In their fucked up minds they can be anything they want, but a decent
> society...
...will ultimately CONDEMN is hateful bigots. Losers like you.
THEN it *will* be a DECENT society.
Wayne
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:30:59 -0800,
> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> ...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
>
> <flush>
>
> Previous post follows:
>
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
marriage makes a person a bigot.
Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
treatment under the law. That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
marriages. Such laws most certainly would pass in states where redefinition
of marriage failed by narrow margins.
If getting those equal rights isn't enough for homosexuals, and marriage
redefinition is continued as an issue.....homosexuals have something in
their agenda other than getting equal rights. Most likely it is an attempt
to use marriage redefinition as legislated acceptance, independent of the
equal rights issue. That approach is destined to be opposed by some
religions/groups. Bulldozing over those groups by legal methods isn't going
to change their minds either.
Ray Fischer
>"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) Spammer
>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>>
>You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
>marriage makes a person a bigot.
If one defines marriage to be between a man and a woman of the same
race, then opposing a change is indeed bigotry.
>Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
>treatment under the law.
Because the bigots oppose that.
> That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
>Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
>marriages.
"Separate but equal"
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Bill Taylor
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.dsfsdfy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still
more honest than queer activists and democrats.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> ...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
>>
>> <flush>
>>
>> Previous post follows:
>>
>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
> You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
> marriage makes a person a bigot.
No. Marriage is marriage. It is the EXCLUSION of millions of people
from it, in an attempt to make it some sort of SPECIAL right for elitist
heterosexuals that the bigots want to preserve (and at which they will
ultimately fail).
> Why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
> treatment under the law. That is VERY easy to accomplish.
NOT as easy as it SHOULD be, or their being hatefully EXCLUDED
from marriage in a host of BIGOTED states would be HISTORY by now.
> Just get a New Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to
> civil unions and marriages.
Separate-but-equal is NO substitute, as the blacks knew 60 years
ago. HERE is what is wrong with that hateful and ludicrous notion:
Fritz Wuehler
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:49 -0800,
> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
> >> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> ...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
> >>
> >> <flush>
> >>
> >> Previous post follows:
> >>
> >> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> >> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
> > You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
> > marriage makes a person a bigot.
>
> No. Marriage is marriage. It is the EXCLUSION of millions of people
> from it, in an attempt to make it some sort of SPECIAL right for elitist
> heterosexuals that the bigots want to preserve (and at which they will
> ultimately fail).
The failure is moving along nicely so far. Voters have rejected
butt-fucker marriage every single time it has been put in front
of them. Butt-fuckers can only get married in states where
politicians and lawyers subverted the will of the people.
In backwards places like Iowa, they didn't even get a chance to
dispute it.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
SUBMORONIC BIGOT, BILL TAYLOR (aka "Fritz Wuehler")
<fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>>> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
>>>>
>>>> <flush>
>>>>
>>>> Previous post follows:
>>>>
>>>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>>>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>>> You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
>>> marriage makes a person a bigot.
>> No. Marriage is marriage. It is the EXCLUSION of millions of people
>> from it, in an attempt to make it some sort of SPECIAL right for elitist
>> heterosexuals that the bigots want to preserve (and at which they will
>> ultimately fail).
> In [FORTUNATE states] like Iowa, the [hateful bigots within the
> population] didn't even get a chance to dispute it.
And THAT is a very GOOD thing!! Since the courts are usually
'way ahead of the curve when it comes to according RIGHTS and
personal liberties to people. As the U.S. Supreme Court proved so
WELL with its EMACIPATIONS of girls and women, and then with
interracial couples, in "Roe vs. Wade" and "Loving vs. Virginia."
Thanks to fair-minded and EGALITARIAN COURT -- loathsome
and ignorant bigots like you will ALWAYS be LOSERS.
Iowa's Supreme Court voted UNANIMOUSLY for FAIRNESS.
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william mosco
This isn't true. The government is not stopping anybody from getting
married to someone from the opposite sex, gays or straights; this is a
fact.
Because gays "choose" to not marry does not make them any more
separate than people who choose to remain single.
Your logic fails because it's akin to an ice cream vendor offering
only free Vanilla ice cream. So those who only eat chocolate are
somehow discriminated against when they are free to accept vanilla?
For the record, I don't oppose gay marriage, but the logic used for it
is
Free Lunch
<wm5...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >"(?`?.?Craig Chilton?.???) Spammer
>> >> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>> >> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>> >>
>> >You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
>> >marriage makes a person a bigot.
>>
>> If one defines marriage to be between a man and a woman of the same
>> race, then opposing a change is indeed bigotry.
>>
>> >Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
>> >treatment under the law.
>>
>> Because the bigots oppose that.
>>
>> > That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
>> >Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
>> >marriages.
>>
>> "Separate but equal"
>
>This isn't true. The government is not stopping anybody from getting
>married to someone from the opposite sex, gays or straights; this is a
>fact.
Just like the government wasn't stopping anybody from getting married to
someone fro the same race. Bigotry is bigotry, no matter how hard you
try to hide your bigotry behind so-called biblical justifications.
>Because gays "choose" to not marry does not make them any more
>separate than people who choose to remain single.
>
>Your logic fails because it's akin to an ice cream vendor offering
>only free Vanilla ice cream. So those who only eat chocolate are
>somehow discriminated against when they are free to accept vanilla?
>
>For the record, I don't oppose gay marriage, but the logic used for it
>is
There is no logical reason to forbid gay marriage.
william mosco
Free Lunch wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:42:27 -0800 (PST), william mosco
> <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >
> >
> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >"(?`?.?Craig Chilton?.???) Spammer
> >> >> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> >> >> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
> >> >>
> >> >You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
> >> >marriage makes a person a bigot.
> >>
> >> If one defines marriage to be between a man and a woman of the same
> >> race, then opposing a change is indeed bigotry.
> >>
> >> >Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
> >> >treatment under the law.
> >>
> >> Because the bigots oppose that.
> >>
> >> > That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
> >> >Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
> >> >marriages.
> >>
> >> "Separate but equal"
> >
> >This isn't true. The government is not stopping anybody from getting
> >married to someone from the opposite sex, gays or straights; this is a
> >fact.
>
> Just like the government wasn't stopping anybody from getting married to
> someone fro the same race.
Yes they were. Marriage between racial lines have occurred for
centuries.
>Bigotry is bigotry, no matter how hard you
> try to hide your bigotry behind so-called biblical justifications.
>
This is a new area of what marriage is. I don't oppose it, I have no
problems with gay marriage, but to compare this to civil rights is a
fallacy.
>
>
> >Because gays "choose" to not marry does not make them any more
> >separate than people who choose to remain single.
> >
Non responsive.
> >Your logic fails because it's akin to an ice cream vendor offering
> >only free Vanilla ice cream. So those who only eat chocolate are
> >somehow discriminated against when they are free to accept vanilla?
> >
> >For the record, I don't oppose gay marriage, but the logic used for it
> >is
>
> There is no logical reason to forbid gay marriage.
They could because laws in many states don't recognize it. The logic
used by gays for marriage could also be used to marry a penguin, or
have tri-relationships accepted as marriage.
The real problem here is the people have allowed their government to
define marriage and require a license. Government is the problem.
There should be no benefit to marriage or a requirement to get
permission to marry.
People should be allowed to go to their church, judge, whoever, get
married without secular approval.
Free Lunch
<wm5...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
Did you have a point here?
>>Bigotry is bigotry, no matter how hard you
>> try to hide your bigotry behind so-called biblical justifications.
>>
>
>This is a new area of what marriage is. I don't oppose it, I have no
>problems with gay marriage, but to compare this to civil rights is a
>fallacy.
It's not completely new. Remember that for most of history neither
church nor state cared about marriage.
william mosco
Yes, and apparently you missed it.
> >>Bigotry is bigotry, no matter how hard you
> >> try to hide your bigotry behind so-called biblical justifications.
> >>
> >
> >This is a new area of what marriage is. I don't oppose it, I have no
> >problems with gay marriage, but to compare this to civil rights is a
> >fallacy.
>
> It's not completely new. Remember that for most of history neither
> church nor state cared about marriage.
>
Cite a gay marriage from history and I'll concede the point.
Ray Fischer
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) Spammer
>> >> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>> >> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>> >>
>> >You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
>> >marriage makes a person a bigot.
>>
>> If one defines marriage to be between a man and a woman of the same
>> race, then opposing a change is indeed bigotry.
>>
>> >Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
>> >treatment under the law.
>>
>> Because the bigots oppose that.
>>
>> > That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
>> >Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
>> >marriages.
>>
>> "Separate but equal"
>
>This isn't true. The government is not stopping anybody from getting
>married to someone from the opposite sex, gays or straights; this is a
>fact.
"The government is not stopping anybody from getting married to
someone from the [same race]"."
"The government is not stopping anybody from getting married to
someone from the [same religion]"."
The usual bigotry wearing a different dress.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
william mosco
The race argument is bigotry since interracial marriage has been going
on for centuries. The religion argument I believe is a red herring
since I don't recall the US Government ever doing that.
Though I believe gays should be able to marry and suffer like the rest
of us, their cries of discrimination are false since the government
does not restrict them from getting married.
The government is treating each equally in this regard and not bending
to the preferences of one over the other.
To compare it to "civil rights" only diminishes that struggle.
BE-VA
<eber...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>
> The USA is infamous for its backwoods ignorance, and Maine seems to be
> a typical example.
>
> Nobody's basic human rights should be put up for a vote of the
> ignorant masses of rednecks and morons.
We quite famous for telling euro-trash ass hole like you to FUCK OFF
too. We won't make the same mistake that the rednecks and morons north
of us made you can bet you bippy on that ass-wipe.
CANADA'S GREAT MISTAKE
Gay Definition of Marriage is
Not the Equal of Heterosexual Marriage
Facts Show Sexual Fidelity Not a Part of Gay Unions
W. Moran
May 2003
Editor's [MassNews] Note: Canada is in the throws of cultural upheaval,
the likes of which we have only begun to experience here in
Massachusetts. In Canada you can be charged with a hate crime for
expressing a negative opinion of homosexuality. A bill to increase the
restrictions on free speech in Canada has recently moved to the House
of Commons without a debate or a vote. (Sound familiar?) Liberals have
used procedural tactics to continue the bill on its path to becoming
the law without including the necessary safeguards for religious
expression. The writer has been unable to find a news outlet in Canada
that would print this article.
BE-VA
<eber...@gmail.com> said:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:56:20 -0000, "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
>> message news:gqr3f5tq8p9tkmd68...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:32:15 -0000,
>>> "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome. There are
>>>>>> laws to prevent siblings marrying each other, and there are laws
>>>>>> to prevent fathers marrying their daughters. Similarly, there are
>>>>>> laws to prevent queers marrying each other as well. The vast
>>>>>> majority of normal people don't want to give their moral and
>>>>>> legal support to queers who demand it from them and class all
>>>>>> those who are against doing it as homophobes, bigots, or some
>>>>>> other derogatory name. No, America, like Britain, refuses to
>>>>>> accept same sex marriage, and it's a great day because of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Not at all; the voting figures speak for themselves. Queers argue
>>>> that because same-sex marriage doesn't affect anyone else, there
>>>> should be no opposition to it. But what queers fail to understand
>>>> is that their moral and legal demands do affect others, of course,
>>>> and the vast majority who could be bothered to vote has voted
>>>> against them and their demands. They demand tolerance but
>>>> give none in return to those who oppose them. They call them
>>>> hateful bigots and homophobes instead of actually tolerating
>>>> them the way they demand to be tolerated. Marriage is for men
>>>> and women, not queers.
>>>
>>> ...men and men, and women and women.
>>
>> No. Every state that was given the chance to vote voted against
>> them.
>
> The USA is infamous for its backwoods ignorance, and Maine seems to be
> a typical example.
>
> Nobody's basic human rights should be put up for a vote of the
> ignorant masses of rednecks and morons.
>
>
Dänk 1010011010
> Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
> treatment under the law. That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
> Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
> marriages. Such laws most certainly would pass in states where redefinition
> of marriage failed by narrow margins.
A law would not work, since rights are inherent and not granted by the
government. What is needed is a Constitutional ruling that gays
possess the same rights as everyone else. This is not the same as
granting a new right, merely validating the existence of a right that
was formerly violated by the government.
The necessary Constitutional basis can be found in the 14th Amendment,
which says that no state shall deprive any person of the equal
protection of its laws.
The political left generally does not like the Constitutional
approach, however, since their worldview involves an all-powerful but
benevolent government that grants only those rights (really
privileges) they deem necessary. If the 14th Amendment were applied
in other cases, it might be interpreted as granting rights to groups
the left disapproves of, since states would not be allowed to
discriminate against them.
As for same-sex marriage, it is no more a constitutional right than
heterosexual marriage. Marriage is a religious concept, and the First
Amendment prohibits the government from interfering in religious
matters. Thus, the government has no business bestowing legal
recognition on ANY form of marriage. Two or more consenting adults of
any gender should be allowed to form personal relationships of their
choice without government permission. Abolishing the legal
recognition of marriage would solve the problem nicely, and be
entirely Constitutional.
Mike
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:42:27 -0800 (PST), william mosco
> <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> >"(?`?.?Craig Chilton?.???) Spammer
> >> >> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
> >> >> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
> >> >You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
> >> >marriage makes a person a bigot.
>
> >> If one defines marriage to be between a man and a woman of the same
> >> race, then opposing a change is indeed bigotry.
>
> >> >Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
> >> >treatment under the law.
>
> >> Because the bigots oppose that.
>
> >> > That is VERY easy to accomplish. Just get a New
> >> >Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to civil unions and
> >> >marriages.
>
> >> "Separate but equal"
>
> >This isn't true. The government is not stopping anybody from getting
> >married to someone from the opposite sex, gays or straights; this is a
> >fact.
>
> Just like the government wasn't stopping anybody from getting married to
> someone fro the same race. Bigotry is bigotry, no matter how hard you
> try to hide your bigotry behind so-called biblical justifications.
In all of Usenet, I've never seen such a concentration of bitter,
stunted, self-deluded idiots as there is in here. You try to force
an assumption that overt racism is no different than having
reservations about same sex marriage. It is an abysmally pathetic
argument, it''s not working, and makes you look so stupid.that you
might as well concede.
>
> >Because gays "choose" to not marry does not make them any more
> >separate than people who choose to remain single.
>
> >Your logic fails because it's akin to an ice cream vendor offering
> >only free Vanilla ice cream. So those who only eat chocolate are
> >somehow discriminated against when they are free to accept vanilla?
>
> >For the record, I don't oppose gay marriage, but the logic used for it
> >is
>
> There is no logical reason to forbid gay marriage.
The tradition of marriage evolved and comes down to us from ancient
times, being rooted in the fundamental human need for sex and
procreation. As old as it is, marriage is also bound up with religion
and cultural symbol, and has a deep meaning to the psyche of society
and to individuals that goes beyond the dictionary definition. To
listen to gays, you would think that there was a time homosexual and
lesbian marriage happened just as much as heterosexual marriage, then
some mean old rednecks got control of government and said, "No,
marriage is only for men and women. As for you same-sex couples, your
marriages don't exist anymore."
And now here you all are, trying to correct that imagined injustice.
This is in spite of the fact that marriage has always, unquestionably
been known as a union between the sexes. DOMA and the constitutions
of 30 some odd states are simply stating the obvious. They are
defending something so intuitively crystal clear that nobody ever had
to defend it before you current crop of geniuses start telling us how
horribly evil human society has always been because same-sex marriage
was non-existent.
Rob Par
wrote:
>
Actually nothing is going to change the minds of a bunch of self
righteous hate filled bigots. The only way to have equality is to have
the same set of laws for every one.
The Chief Instigator
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:58:05 GMT, "(?`?.?Craig Chilton?.???)
><www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
> You lost, cc.
You lost decades ago, Wreck of Red Stick.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
Ray Fischer
>> Just like the government wasn't stopping anybody from getting married to
>> someone fro the same race. Bigotry is bigotry, no matter how hard you
>> try to hide your bigotry behind so-called biblical justifications.
>
>In all of Usenet, I've never seen such a concentration of bitter,
>stunted, self-deluded idiots as there is in here. You try to force
>an assumption that overt racism is no different than having
>reservations about same sex marriage.
Let's see you explain the difference.
>> >For the record, I don't oppose gay marriage, but the logic used for it
>> >is
>>
>> There is no logical reason to forbid gay marriage.
>
>The tradition of marriage evolved and comes down to us from ancient
>times, being rooted in the fundamental human need for sex and
>procreation.
BULLSHIT!
Your appalling ignorance and stupidity does not justify your
prejudices. The reality is that marriage has existed in almost every
form during human history. That you're so arrogant as to believe that
YOUR version of marriage is the only valid version says a lot about
your contempt for other people.
> As old as it is, marriage is also bound up with religion
>and cultural symbol, and has a deep meaning to the psyche of society
>and to individuals that goes beyond the dictionary definition.
This country is not a religious dictatorship. If your argument is
that certain religions should have special governmental recognitiion
then "bigot" is indeed the work that should be used to describe you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
They're both versions of your argument.
>Though I believe gays should be able to marry and suffer like the rest
>of us, their cries of discrimination are false since the government
>does not restrict them from getting married.
Which is a stupid lie.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
william mosco
No they're not. Marriage between two of the same sex is a new issue.
> >Though I believe gays should be able to marry and suffer like the rest
> >of us, their cries of discrimination are false since the government
> >does not restrict them from getting married.
>
> Which is a stupid lie.
>
Why am I not surprised you don't see that?
Under your logic, it's discrimination for an individual to be
prohibited from marrying a penguin, or his cat.
william mosco
No they're not. Marriage between two of the same sex is a new issue.
> >Though I believe gays should be able to marry and suffer like the rest
> >of us, their cries of discrimination are false since the government
> >does not restrict them from getting married.
>
> Which is a stupid lie.
>
Why am I not surprised you don't see that?
martin
How does either give informed consent and agree to contract? Fucking idiot
Pastor Dave
<dan...@rocketmail.com> spake thusly:
>On Nov 5, 9:27�am, "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Instead, why not get homosexuals to ask for what
>> they claim to want: �equal treatment under the law.
>> That is VERY easy to accomplish. �Just get a New
>> Jersey style law passed granting the same rights
>> to civil unions and marriages. �Such laws most
>> certainly would pass in states where redefinition
>> of marriage failed by narrow margins.
>
> A law would not work, since rights are inherent and
> not granted by the government. What is needed is
> a Constitutional ruling that gays possess the same
> rights as everyone else. This is not the same as
> granting a new right, merely validating the existence
> of a right that was formerly violated by the government.
It is granting a new right, since they already have
the same rights as everyone else. They can do
the same things that heterosexuals can, including
getting married and just like heterosexuals, they
cannot marry the same sex. So anything else is
to add a new right.
Furthermore, I don't personally use the word "gay".
I refuse to let them hijack it in my discussions and
to call them "gay", is to claim that in order to be
happy, which is what the word really means, one
has to be a homosexual and furthermore, has to
be a homosexual male, since women aren't called
"gay", but "lesbian", which is why you see the
label, "gay and lesbian community".
And why is that "a community"? It is a community,
because they sleep with members of the same sex?
Have people lost their minds so much, that they will
actually tolerate people claiming to be in need of
laws, because they have sex with the same gender
and want to claim that's a "lifestyle"? Huh???
So if I have sex with monkeys, then I can claim that
it's an entire "lifestyle" and get special protections
under the law? Please! <chuckle>
> The necessary Constitutional basis can be found
> in the 14th Amendment, which says that no state
> shall deprive any person of the equal protection
> of its laws.
And no one is.
> As for same-sex marriage, it is no more a constitutional
> right than heterosexual marriage.
Then the 14th Amendment isn't relevant. You can't
have it both ways. You can't bring in the Constitution
to make homosexual marriage legal and then say that
it's not relevant in the matter of marriage.
> Marriage is a religious concept
Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
the Bible, right down to the agreement made and
the dowry. And that's why marriages performed by
civil servants and even ship captains are recognized.
Interestingly enough, in this country, a marriage from
another country may not be recognized, even a country
we like, like Italy for example, if you didn't apply for a
marriage license here, before flying over there, to have
your wedding in your home land.
And yet, as far as I know, for most people that move
here, who have never been here, their marriage is
automatically recognized. Unless of course, it was
performed by a chimp in drag or something. :)
--
Pastor Dave
The following is part of my auto-rotating
sig file and not part of the message body.
"The greatest and noblest pleasure which men can have
in this world is to discover new truths; and the next
is to shake off old prejudices. -Frederick The Great
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
In article <gjj3f5di5bhrm6dmi...@4ax.com>
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that
voters still call the shots, and fag supporting activists DO NOT.
Get ready Vermont. The fags who think they pulled one over on
you are about to get their asses kicked there too.
william mosco
Irrelevant. It's discrimination under the gay marriage logic. Also,
so would be a man with multiple wives, group marriages between
bisexuals, or whatever.
I see my comments frightened you to the point where you got angry.
william mosco
Irrelevant. It's discrimination under the gay marriage logic. Also,
martin
liar. Since when could a cat sign a legally binding contract with the
state? Fucking nutter.
> I see my comments frightened you to the point where you got angry.
Not angry, you're just fucking insane.
james g. keegan jr.
<529b3c2c-2872-4e53...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marriage between two of the same sex is a new issue.
those truckstops must be getting to you.
william mosco
I see I frightened you again since you needed to delete my comments
which refuted your irrelevant comments.
Run away coward.
> > I see my comments frightened you to the point where you got angry.
>
> Not angry, you're just fucking insane.
Do you always tell lies when scared, like you did here?
Keep running coward.
Wayne
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:49 -0800,
>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
>>>
>>> <flush>
>>>
>>> Previous post follows:
>>>
>>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>
>> You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
>> marriage makes a person a bigot.
>
> from it, in an attempt to make it some sort of SPECIAL right for elitist
> heterosexuals that the bigots want to preserve (and at which they will
> ultimately fail).
>
-
-
Marriage is between a man and a woman. There is no exclusion for ANYONE.
You want to be married, find someone of the other sex and do it. If you
want homosexual sex, go ahead. You want a bundh of legal bindings with
someone of the same sex, the civil unions are right there for you.
>> Why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
>> treatment under the law. That is VERY easy to accomplish.
>
> NOT as easy as it SHOULD be, or their being hatefully EXCLUDED
> from marriage in a host of BIGOTED states would be HISTORY by now.
>
-
-
They are excluded from marriage because they don't fit the definition. No
bigotry or discrimination involved. Brown eyed people are still brown-eyed,
even if they say they are blue-eyed.
>> Just get a New Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to
>> civil unions and marriages.
>
> Separate-but-equal is NO substitute, as the blacks knew 60 years
> ago.
-
-
Here we go again equating blacks and homosexuals. Pathetic.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>>> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> ...NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
>>>>
>>>> <flush>
>>>>
>>>> Previous post follows:
>>>>
>>>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the USA is still INFESTED
>>>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>>> You make the mistake of assuming that a vote against redefinition of
>>> marriage makes a person a bigot.
>> No. Marriage is marriage. It is the EXCLUSION of millions of people
>> from it, in an attempt to make it some sort of SPECIAL right for elitist
>> heterosexuals that the bigots want to preserve (and at which they will
>> ultimately fail).
> Marriage is between a man and a woman...
...and a woman and a woman, and a man and a man. As people who
either live in, or are free to go to all of the places listed in the SIG,
below, already know.
You LOSE, bigot! FOREVERMORE!!!
ROTFL!!!!!!
How SWEET that is!!
>>> Why not get homosexuals to ask for what they claim to want: equal
>>> treatment under the law. That is VERY easy to accomplish.
>>
>> NOT as easy as it SHOULD be, or their being hatefully EXCLUDED
>> from marriage in a host of BIGOTED states would be HISTORY by now.
>>> Just get a New Jersey style law passed granting the same rights to
>>> civil unions and marriages.
>> Separate-but-equal is NO substitute, as the blacks knew 60 years
>> ago. HERE is what is wrong with that hateful and ludicrous notion:
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Marriage-is-MARRIAGE.html
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!
Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY in all these places, and
the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
� Netherlands (as of 2001)
� Belgium (2003)
� Massachusetts (2004)
� Canada (2005)
� Spain (2005)
� South Africa (2005)
� Norway (2008)
� Connecticut (2008)
� New York ** (2008)
...and getting very CLOSE in 2009.
� Iowa (2009)
� Vermont (2009)
� Sweden (2009)
� New Hampshire (2009)
� Washington, D.C.** (2009)
� New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
� Hungary: PENDING in 2009
� Albania: PENDING in 2009
� Australia: 60% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
� Britain: 61% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
for couples legally married outside of the
state/district/country.
Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
��� REMEMBER DR. TILLER!! ���
��� REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas ���
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Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
Why not?
> Marriage between two of the same sex is a new issue.
How is that relevant?
>> >Though I believe gays should be able to marry and suffer like the rest
>> >of us, their cries of discrimination are false since the government
>> >does not restrict them from getting married.
>>
>> Which is a stupid lie.
>
>Why am I not surprised you don't see that?
Freedom to obey your rules is not freedom, nazi boy.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) Spammer
>> No. Marriage is marriage. It is the EXCLUSION of millions of people
>> from it, in an attempt to make it some sort of SPECIAL right for elitist
>> heterosexuals that the bigots want to preserve (and at which they will
>> ultimately fail).
>-
That would be a meaningful statement if 1) you were dictator,
or 2) you were God. Since you're neither then your statement
is rightly considered to be ignorant garbage.
You are just another stupid bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>> Marriage is a religious concept
>
>Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
>the Bible,
Then there can be no religious argument against it and
the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
> right down to the agreement made and
>the dowry.
And how many wives you can have.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
william mosco
Is that a problem for you Ray? After all, why can't 50 female
consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
Unless you're a bigot who is trying to control people.
Pat Magroyne
> Ray Fischer wrote:
> > Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Marriage is a religious concept
>
> > >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> > >the Bible,
>
> > Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> > the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
>
> > > right down to the agreement made and
> > >the dowry.
>
> > And how many wives you can have.
>
> Is that a problem for you Ray?
He doesn't indicate that it's a problem.
> After all, why can't 50 female
> consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
Gee, can't think of a reason. Do YOU have one?
Ray Fischer
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Marriage is a religious concept
>> >
>> >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
>> >the Bible,
>>
>> Then there can be no religious argument against it and
>> the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
>>
>> > right down to the agreement made and
>> >the dowry.
>>
>> And how many wives you can have.
>
>Is that a problem for you Ray? After all, why can't 50 female
>consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
Why do you care?
>Unless you're a bigot who is trying to control people.
That would be you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
william mosco
Ray Fischer wrote:
> william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Marriage is a religious concept
> >> >
> >> >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> >> >the Bible,
> >>
> >> Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> >> the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
> >>
> >> > right down to the agreement made and
> >> >the dowry.
> >>
> >> And how many wives you can have.
> >
> >Is that a problem for you Ray? After all, why can't 50 female
> >consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>
> Why do you care?
>
Because it's fun to reveal your hypocrisy.
> >Unless you're a bigot who is trying to control people.
>
> That would be you.
>.
Run away from hypocrisy bigot.
william mosco
Ray Fischer wrote:
> william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Marriage is a religious concept
> >> >
> >> >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> >> >the Bible,
> >>
> >> Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> >> the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
> >>
> >> > right down to the agreement made and
> >> >the dowry.
> >>
> >> And how many wives you can have.
> >
> >Is that a problem for you Ray? After all, why can't 50 female
> >consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>
> Why do you care?
>
Because it's fun to reveal your hypocrisy.
> >Unless you're a bigot who is trying to control people.
>
> That would be you.
william mosco
Because the government never forbade marriage across religious lines.
A religion may have, but inter-religious marriages have been going on
for centuries.
> > Marriage between two of the same sex is a new issue.
>
> How is that relevant?
>
They're asking for a "redefinition", not to be forbade of something
that was once common practice.
I bet you'll be unable to wrap your brain around that. That's why
your logic fails. It's nothing compared to civil rights. Gays are not
forced to sit in the back of a bus, or forbidden to eat in certain
places.
> >> >Though I believe gays should be able to marry and suffer like the rest
> >> >of us, their cries of discrimination are false since the government
> >> >does not restrict them from getting married.
> >>
> >> Which is a stupid lie.
> >
> >Why am I not surprised you don't see that?
>
> Freedom to obey your rules is not freedom, nazi boy.
>.
Did you feel it necessary to misrepresent my previous statements of
support for gay marriage because you're a liar or because the truth
frightens you?
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
=== This is a RESOURCE POST that will be refreshed with
regularity UNTIL the USA *outgrows* its Hate and Stops
EXCLUDING millions of people from marrying for NO
good reason. ===
HEADS-UP to the REST of the World:
The USA is **INFESTED** with BIGOTS!!
When the majority of the voters in the State of Maine *proved*
their bigotry on November 3rd, that was a reminder of the fact that
dozens of other U.S states are every bit as bigoted. And the world's
MOST **ignorant** people are its hateful bigots. **SHAME** on
most of the USA!!
This serves as a reminder to the world that the USA is still a
repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
Jim Crow hate and segregation.
UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
to do with us as possible!
To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
us. If you plan tourism overseas, DON'T bring your Euros or other
currency HERE. There are OTHER interesting places in the world
to visit -- BETTER ones that have a far LOWER percentage of
hateful and mindless bigots!
Treat us -- the USA -- as the PARIAH to the world that we
truly still ARE!! REJECT this loathsome nation!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD* ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
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-- Craig Chilton <xana...@mchsi.com>
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william mosco
Pat Magroyne wrote:
> On Nov 7, 5:33 pm, william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ray Fischer wrote:
> > > Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Marriage is a religious concept
> >
> > > >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> > > >the Bible,
> >
> > > Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> > > the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
> >
> > > > right down to the agreement made and
> > > >the dowry.
> >
> > > And how many wives you can have.
> >
> > Is that a problem for you Ray?
>
> He doesn't indicate that it's a problem.
>
That's what the question mark is for. But in reality, I'm not as
stupid as you.
> > After all, why can't 50 female
> > consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>
> Gee, can't think of a reason. Do YOU have one?
No. I have no problem with it, do you?
william mosco
Pat Magroyne wrote:
> On Nov 7, 5:33 pm, william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ray Fischer wrote:
> > > Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Marriage is a religious concept
> >
> > > >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> > > >the Bible,
> >
> > > Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> > > the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
> >
> > > > right down to the agreement made and
> > > >the dowry.
> >
> > > And how many wives you can have.
> >
> > Is that a problem for you Ray?
>
> He doesn't indicate that it's a problem.
>
That's what the question mark is for. But in reality, I'm not as
stupid as you.
> > After all, why can't 50 female
> > consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>
> Gee, can't think of a reason. Do YOU have one?
No. I have no problem with it, do you?
Pat Magroyne
> Pat Magroyne wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 5:33 pm, william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ray Fischer wrote:
> > > > Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Marriage is a religious concept
>
> > > > >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> > > > >the Bible,
>
> > > > Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> > > > the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
>
> > > > > right down to the agreement made and
> > > > >the dowry.
>
> > > > And how many wives you can have.
>
> > > Is that a problem for you Ray?
>
> > He doesn't indicate that it's a problem.
>
> That's what the question mark is for. But in reality, I'm not as
> stupid as you.
But he didn't indicate that it was a problem, and it has nothing to do
with the topic, so why did you bother to ask the question?
> > > After all, why can't 50 female
> > > consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>
> > Gee, can't think of a reason. Do YOU have one?
>
> No. I have no problem with it, do you?
Why don't you tell us what your problem is. This should be
interesting. (Prediction: it will read something like this: "Well,
of COURSE it's wrong! Everyone knows it's wrong! Even in the
Bible... oops...") LOL
Pat Magroyne
> Ray Fischer wrote:
> > william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Ray Fischer wrote:
> > >> Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Marriage is a religious concept
>
> > >> >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
> > >> >the Bible,
>
> > >> Then there can be no religious argument against it and
> > >> the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
>
> > >> > right down to the agreement made and
> > >> >the dowry.
>
> > >> And how many wives you can have.
>
> > >Is that a problem for you Ray? After all, why can't 50 female
> > >consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>
> > Why do you care?
>
> Because it's fun to reveal your hypocrisy.
Tell us when you do that. We're still waiting.
Pat Magroyne
> Ray Fischer wrote:
> > william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >Ray Fischer wrote:
> > >> william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >Ray Fischer wrote:
> > >> >> william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >Ray Fischer wrote:
So what?
> not to be forbade of something
> that was once common practice.
Women got the right to vote not all that long ago, which had
previously been forbidden, and which was once common practice.
In essence, the definition of "eligible to vote" was changed, as a
result. Previously it had meant only males. The "redefinition"
included females. Go figure.
> I bet you'll be unable to wrap your brain around that.
Wrapping our brains around your stumbling is something we could do in
our sleep.
> That's why
> your logic fails.
NOW you've done it! The irony meter has exploded into smithereens!
> It's nothing compared to civil rights.
Marriage is a civil institution. The right to marriage is a civil
one, rather than a religious one.
> Gays are not
> forced to sit in the back of a bus, or forbidden to eat in certain
> places.
So what? A person who isn't forced into the back of the bus cannot
claim that his civil rights are being violated? Or does he need to
also be refused service in a restaurant?
You really have a very narrow view of things. You're looking at
particular behaviors (and laws) against a certain segment of society
and then claiming that THOSE are THE things that illustrate inequality
(and you suggest that if those things are not present, then inequality
doesn't exist). You seem to be unaware that different discriminated-
against groups will be discriminated against differently. And you
miss the larger picture entirely: that of equality.
Ray Fischer
Which government? Government have in the past disallowed such
marriages.
>> > Marriage between two of the same sex is a new issue.
>>
>> How is that relevant?
>
>They're asking for a "redefinition",
You're lying.
The truth is that you're just a neonazi bigot who wants to force
everybody to gose-step to your anti-American agenda.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>
>Pat Magroyne wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 5:33�pm, william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Ray Fischer wrote:
>> > > Pastor Dave �<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> Marriage is a religious concept
>> >
>> > > >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
>> > > >the Bible,
>> >
>> > > Then there can be no religious argument against it and
>> > > the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
>> >
>> > > > right down to the agreement made and
>> > > >the dowry.
>> >
>> > > And how many wives you can have.
>> >
>> > Is that a problem for you Ray? �
>>
>> He doesn't indicate that it's a problem.
>
>That's what the question mark is for. But in reality, I'm not as
>stupid as you.
You're stupid enough to think that your neonazi agenda is somehow
moral.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Ray Fischer wrote:
>> >> Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Marriage is a religious concept
>> >> >
>> >> >Actually, it's a legal concept and that's true even in
>> >> >the Bible,
>> >>
>> >> Then there can be no religious argument against it and
>> >> the Bible is of no relevance whatever.
>> >>
>> >> > right down to the agreement made and
>> >> >the dowry.
>> >>
>> >> And how many wives you can have.
>> >
>> >Is that a problem for you Ray? After all, why can't 50 female
>> >consenting adults get married to a consenting man?
>>
>> Why do you care?
>
>Because it's fun to reveal your hypocrisy.
And yet you're not able to do so.
>> >Unless you're a bigot who is trying to control people.
>>
>> That would be you.
>
>Run away from hypocrisy bigot.
It's not my hypocrisy whin you make up shit that I didn't write,
Mark
<ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:
>Mark wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jimbo" <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6e056bb4-320a-470a...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 4, 2:57 pm, "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com>
>>>> wrote in
>>>> messagenews:gjj3f5di5bhrm6dmi...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
>>>>
>>>> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome. There are
>>>> laws to prevent siblings marrying each other, and there are laws
>>>> to prevent fathers marrying their daughters. Similarly, there are
>>>> laws to prevent queers marrying each other as well. The vast
>>>> majority of normal people don't want to give their moral and
>>>> legal support to queers who demand it from them and class all
>>>> those who are against doing it as homophobes, bigots, or some
>>>> other derogatory name. No, America, like Britain, refuses to
>>>> accept same sex marriage, and it's a great day because of that.
>>>
>>> Nonsense.
>>
>> Not at all; the voting figures speak for themselves. Queers argue
>> that because same-sex marriage doesn't affect anyone else, there
>> should be no opposition to it. But what queers fail to understand
>> is that their moral and legal demands do affect others, of course,
>> and the vast majority who could be bothered to vote has voted
>> against them and their demands. They demand tolerance but
>> give none in return to those who oppose them. They call them
>> hateful bigots and homophobes instead of actually tolerating
>> them the way they demand to be tolerated. Marriage is for men
>> and women, not queers.
>>
>Explain it then. Since you're so smart, explain, exactly, in detail,
>how two blokes down the block getting married will affect my 27 year
>marriage to my wife.
>
>Go on tough guy, explain it. No one else has, so let us see you,
>explain what you claim.
No problem. Being married and belonging to the institution
of marriage is an important part of who I and my wife are.
Generally, it defines us to the community at large as a
heterosexual couple capable of having children. When the
community at large see our wedding rings they respect our
commitment to each other as being in a straight, normal
husband and wife marriage, not a bent, abnormal friendship.
And I want to keep it that way. I don't want queers using the
institution of marriage to which I belong to pass themselves
off as normal people doing what other normal people like
we do in a relationship. Unlike queers, my wife and I have
a normal sex life. We don't just wank each other off every
night like they have to do. Unlike queers, we have a family
of children we can genuinely call of our own. We don't rely
on taking in someone else's children and role-play at being
a family. Queers are not the same as normal people, and as
such they cannot expect to enter the same institution without
a great deal of resistance from the members of that institution.
Allowing them entry to it affects it and those who are
members of it by mischaracterising and redefining it to such
an extent that marriage becomes nothing more than just a mere
partnership between pals. People like you who want to
redefine it to allow queers obviously have a very poor idea
of what marriage is and most likely have a very poor marriage
because of it. Unlike you, I have a very strong and happy
marriage because my wife and I fully understand it and
appreciate it for what it is. There. Hope that helps.
Mark
>
>"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:Ub-dnfq_Q6tPeWzX...@bt.com...
>Are not queers men and women too?
No, not in the context of same-sex marriage. They're either men
and men or women and women. Did you miss that part of the
discussion?
Mark
>On Nov 4, 4:56�pm, "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:gqr3f5tq8p9tkmd68...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:32:15 -0000,
>> > "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> > � � � MAINE Reminds the WORLD that the
>>
>> >>>> .... vast majority find queers disgusting and loathsome. There are
>> >>>> laws to prevent siblings marrying each other, and there are laws
>> >>>> to prevent fathers marrying their daughters. Similarly, there are
>> >>>> laws to prevent queers marrying each other as well. The vast
>> >>>> majority of normal people don't want to give their moral and
>> >>>> legal support to queers who demand it from them and class all
>> >>>> those who are against doing it as homophobes, bigots, or some
>> >>>> other derogatory name. No, America, like Britain, refuses to
>> >>>> accept same sex marriage, and it's a great day because of that.
>>
>> >>> Nonsense.
>>
>> >> Not at all; the voting figures speak for themselves. �Queers argue
>> >> that because same-sex marriage doesn't affect anyone else, there
>> >> should be no opposition to it. But what queers fail to understand
>> >> is that their moral and legal demands do affect others, of course,
>> >> and the vast majority who could be bothered to vote has voted
>> >> against them and their demands. They demand tolerance but
>> >> give none in return to those who oppose them. They call them
>> >> hateful bigots and homophobes instead of actually tolerating
>> >> them the way they demand to be tolerated. Marriage is for men
>> >> and women, not queers.
>>
>> > � ...men and men, and women and women.
>>
>> No. Every state that was given the chance to vote voted against
>> them.
>
>Civil rights are not the purview of mob rule. Eventually, there will
>be same sex marriage across the country.
No, there won't be. There will come a time when the queer gene
will be found in the foetus, and the heterosexual parents will
choose to get rid of it. That's the future, because queers can't
have kids of their own. Only normal couples can have kids, and
there will come a time when they can choose to abort that foetus
and try again for a normal child so that they can expect grand
children.
Mark
your best response? That's rather pathetic, wouldn't you
say? I've seen you do it so many times now that I almost
expect it.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:08:49 GMT, "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���)
<www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:32:15 -0000,
>"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Marriage is for men and women, ...
No. Every state that was given the chance to vote voted against
them. You don't like it, but that's just tough. Get used to it.
Calling those who voted against it childish names is, well, childish
and shows that it is you who is bigoted and full of hate.
(`�.�Craig Chilton�.��) .. WHY be Employed When You Can Scam People Like Me? <www.faithguard.org>
Craig Chilton ignorantly spewed... in message
news:3up5f5h8vanbglqr2...@4ax.com...
>
> HEADS-UP to the REST of the World
... and take-out your penis from shit if you are queer like Chilton.
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technician told her, "I see boy parts."
Later, the technician told her that the baby's neck "is a little bit
thicker," an indication that there might be an extra chromosome. A few days
later, Down syndrome was confirmed.
"I was scared," Palin said, adding that she asked her husband, Todd, "Why
us?" He responded, "Why not?"
"My family life is much richer thanks to this beautiful baby boy Trig,"
Palin said. "He is awesome."
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:15:17 -0900, "\(`�.�Craig Chilton�.��\) ..
WHY be Employed <www.faithguard.org>"
<forged garbage flushed>
It's FUN to watch the DESPERATION of the bigots as their
hate-agendas swirl faster and faster down the Drain of Extinction!
It's the best comic theater since the equally-ignorant segrega-
tionists bit the dust!
[[[ READERS: Note the DISCREPENCIES between the data
above, and the user information in MY posts.
So in case you want to see a good example of just *how*
abjectly IGNORANT the FORGER who posted this crap is
-- just consider the fact that the average 4-year-old newbie
would probably be able to copy and paste my user data
accurately -- but THIS dolt isn't even THAT intelligent. Thus
making it OBVIOUS that I had nothing to do with the posting.
They should start a new TV show for that bigoted CLOWN
and entitle it, "Are You Smarter Than a PRE-schooler?" The
pre-schooler would run circles around the ignoramus.
(AND -- what a good reminder provides that bigotry and
intelligence NEVER go together. LOL!!! What a tool. ]]]
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��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
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-- Craig Chilton <xana...@mchsi.com>
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Mark <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
== TOP-posted crap (the style of NEWBIES)
moved farther down to a PROPER position. ==
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> Marriage is for men and women, ...
>> ...men and men, and women and women.
>>
>> The TRIVIALITY of gender composition is NO reason to be
>> HATEFUL to people.
>>
>> And in ALL of THESE places (in the SIG, below) people
>> KNOW that.
> Is snipping everything that counters your nonsense away
> your best response?
When NO rebuttal of what I've said has been made -- YES!
It is a waste of time to RE-write the facts with which I
have already proven someone wrong, so I seldom engage
in it.
Let me know is someone ACTUALLY proves WRONG *any*
of the FACTS I've presented in my posts. No one's ever been
able to do that yet. Bigots have NO facts on their side of
their hate agendas to draw upon -- since no such facts even
EXIST.
> No. Every state that was given the chance to vote voted
> against them.
THAT will *change*, very SOON. The majority is almost
right at the tipping point to becoming egalitarian. And once
has happened, it is down the Drain of Extinction forevermore
for the loathsome hate-agendas of the likes of you. Never
to be heard from again. The SAME fate that befell the
EQUALLY-ignorant and hateful segregationists. In America,
bigoted movement ALWAY run their course, and then become
HISTORY, as society REJECTS them.
> You don't like it, but that's just tough. Get used to it.
I didn't like it UNTIL the segregationists got THEIR
come-uppance, either. But I've been ENJOYING the EXTICT-
ION of their agendas for the 45 years that by now have
followed that well-deserved END. JUST as I *will* soon
take great delight in enjoying YOUR loathsome agendas
meeting the same fate.
> Calling those who voted against it...
...the ACCURATE DESCRIPTORS that they have EARNED
for themselves id very fitting.
��� REMEMBER DR. TILLER!! ���
��� REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas ���
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-- (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <xana...@mchsi.com>
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://spifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!
Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY in all these places, and
the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
� Netherlands (as of 2001)
� Belgium (2003)
� Massachusetts (2004)
� Canada (2005)
� Spain (2005)
� South Africa (2005)
� Norway (2008)
� Connecticut (2008)
� New York ** (2008)
...and getting very CLOSE in 2009.
� Iowa (2009)
� Vermont (2009)
� Sweden (2009)
� New Hampshire (2009)
� Washington, D.C.** (2009)
� New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
� Hungary: PENDING in 2009
� Albania: PENDING in 2009
� Australia: 60% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
� Britain: 61% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
for couples legally married outside of the
state/district/country.
Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
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(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Mark <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Civil rights are not the purview of mob rule. Eventually, there will
>>be same sex marriage across the country.
>
> No, there won't be.
ROTFL!!! The SAME living-in-denial-of-the-INEVITABLE demise
of their hate agenda that we who were Civil Rights workers in Civil
Rights Movement I heard often from the equally-moronic and
hateful segregationists... JUST before THEIR hate-agendas
swirled down the Drain of Extinction, never to be heard from
again.
It's FUN to have the chance to watch a REPEAT of that process
again, to YOUR cretinous agenda!
ROTFL!!!!
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Mark <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Civil rights are not the purview of mob rule. Eventually, there
>> will be same-sex marriage across the country.
> No, there won't be.
ROTFL!!! The SAME living-in-denial-of-the-INEVITABLE demise
of their hate agenda that we who were Civil Rights workers in Civil
Rights Movement I heard often from the equally-moronic and
hateful segregationists... JUST before THEIR hate-agendas
swirled down the Drain of Extinction, never to be heard from
again.
It's FUN to have the chance to watch a REPEAT of that process
again, to YOUR cretinous agenda!
ROTFL!!!!
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
The Inevitable Fate of Movements
of Intolerance in America
Society ALWAYS outgrows intolerant and hateful movements
that are mired in stupidity, and are supported by NO relevant
facts. ALWAYS. No exceptions! And our own history, here
in the USA, makes that very clear. Since 1865 ---
-- Slavery -- EXTINCT
-- Opposition to Women's Suffrage -- EXTINCT
-- Prohibition -- EXTINCT
-- Opposition to Birth-Control Pill -- EXTINCT
-- Segregation -- EXTINCT
-- Anti-Semitism -- ENDANGERED (Thankfully)
-- Anti-Choice (abortion) -- LAUGHINGSTOCK STATUS
-- Opposition to EQUAL Rights for Gays -- FADING FAST
Segregationists were a JOKE (i.e., "laughingstock status")
during the last few years before it became extinct. As opposition
to EQUAL rights for gays (with respect to housing, being parents,
marriage, and employment) continues to fade, the remaining
opponents first will become laughingstocks, and then that
hatefulness will end in extinction. constant consciousness-raising,
as is being assisted by the media in its sitcoms, talk shows, etc., is
very helpful.
The ludicrous and hateful actions and defense of sociopathic
agendas against individual liberties on the part of the adherents/
lemmings of the RRR Cult will soon lead to American society's
becoming EMBARRASSED to have those louts in their midst,
making our country a laughingstock in front of the entire world.
Even now, the process of their becoming FED UP with that is
building toward the critical mass that will trigger the *rejection*
of the RRR's **shameful** and worthless agendas. Before much
longer, society will reject those movements with all the force that
it brought to bear against segregation.
Historical precedents have CONSISTENTLY proven that
Americans **outgrow* movements of intolerance (such as ALL
of the above), and then REJECT them -- leaving them behind
FOREVER.
And *that* is EXTINCTION.
Very WELCOME extinction. As in, "Good riddance forever!"
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��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
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www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
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www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
pandora
I see. You are an idiot. Got it.
not in the context of same-sex marriage. They're either men
> and men or women and women. Did you miss that part of the
> discussion?
You just object to them having their relationship legalized. You poor sod.
pandora
All of them? You really are a nutcase aren't you?
That's the future, because queers can't
> have kids of their own.
Sure they can. At least half from one of the parents.
Only normal couples can have kids, and
> there will come a time when they can choose to abort that foetus
> and try again for a normal child so that they can expect grand
> children.
My, my. What a narrow little life you lead.
pandora
Really? What about those who cannot have children? OR are past
child bearing age and are still married? What does their *state* of
being married say to the community then?
When the
> community at large see our wedding rings they respect our
> commitment to each other
What if you don't wear rings? Should you be stoned?
as being in a straight, normal
> husband and wife marriage, not a bent, abnormal friendship.
How would anyone know, for any certainty, without asking you?
I mean, you *could* be married to others and be cheating. OR
you could be married to a member of the same sex who just isn't with
you at the time. OR, you could just be wearing rings for the heckuva
it. After all, there is NO law stating that unmarried people cannot
wear rings.
> And I want to keep it that way. I don't want queers using the
> institution of marriage to which I belong to pass themselves
> off as normal people doing what other normal people like
> we do in a relationship.
However, they are and they do. They care for each other, they
love each other, they raise children together, they do the laundry,
buy groceries, etc, just like you.
Unlike queers, my wife and I have
> a normal sex life. We don't just wank each other off every
> night like they have to do.
What? Are you nuts?
Unlike queers, we have a family
> of children we can genuinely call of our own. We don't rely
> on taking in someone else's children and role-play at being
> a family.
So, in your world view, those who adopt children are just as
bad as gays in a relationship. Got it.
Queers are not the same as normal people, and as
> such they cannot expect to enter the same institution without
> a great deal of resistance from the members of that institution.
Resistance ONLY from the bigots among us. You seem to be one.
> Allowing them entry to it affects it and those who are
> members of it by mischaracterising and redefining it to such
> an extent that marriage becomes nothing more than just a mere
> partnership between pals.
And if your marriage isn't that, I feel sorry for you.
People like you who want to
> redefine it to allow queers obviously have a very poor idea
> of what marriage is and most likely have a very poor marriage
> because of it.
Such arrogance!
Unlike you, I have a very strong and happy
> marriage because my wife and I fully understand it and
> appreciate it for what it is. There. Hope that helps.
It certainly clarifies your narrowmindedness that's for sure.
Ray Fischer
>>be same sex marriage across the country.
>
>No, there won't be. There will come a time when the queer gene
>will be found in the foetus, and the heterosexual parents will
>choose to get rid of it.
And pro-liars, torn between condoning murder or condoning
homosexuality, will have their heads explode.
> That's the future, because queers can't
>have kids of their own.
You really are an idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> "Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote"
>>>>> MAINE Reminds the WORLD that theUSA is still INFESTED
>>>>> with Hateful & Ignorant BIGOTS! **SHAME** on Most of the USA!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, the whole world was reminded that the USA is still a
>>>>> repressive and BLIGHTED country! And that we are little better
>>>>> than we were when our South was infested with the bigotry of
>>>>> Jim Crow hate and segregation.
>>>>>
>>>>> UNTIL that is corrected, the world should regard the USA
>>>>> to be utterly WORTHLESS as a nation, and should have as LITTLE
>>>>> to do with us as possible!
>>>>>
>>>>> To the rest of the world: BOYCOTT us! If you have troops
>>>>> in Afghanistan or Iraq, bring them home! Break off all trade with
>>>>> us. Treat us as the PARIAH to the world that we truly ARE!!
>>> Civil rights are not the purview of mob rule. Eventually,
>>> there will be same sex-marriage across the country.
>> No, there won't be.
LOL!! That's what the segregationists aid about inter-
racial marriage.
>> There will come a time when the [gay] gene will be found
>> in the fetus, and the heterosexual parents will choose to get
>> rid of it.
Yeah. ONLY if they are SCHMUCKS like YOU!
> All of them? You really are a nutcase aren't you?
>> That's the future, because [gays] can't have kids of
>> their own.
> Sure they can. At least half from one of the parents.
INDEED!! See:
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com/Millions-have-kids.html
>> Only normal couples can have kids, and there will come
>> a time when they can choose to abort that fetus and try
>> again for a normal child so that they can expect grand
>> children.
> My, my. What a narrow little life you lead.
One thing I don't think anyone will EVER see:
An intelligent BIGOT.
Bigotry and ignorance are symbiotic.
Mark provides an excellent EXAMPLE of that.
Intelligence : Bigotry :: Sunlight : Dracula
BE-VA
<www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com>
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) said:
> the average 4-year-old newbie would probably be able to copy and paste
> my user data accurately
Why not? With your 4 year old mentality level you created it, hmmmmmm?
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
[[[ IGNORE the LYING and FORGED subject header above,
written by a SUBMORONIC CRETIN. ]]]
**OBVIOUS** FORGERY ---
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:15:17 -0900, "\(`�.�Craig Chilton�.��\) ..
WHY be Employed <www.faithguard.org>"
<forged garbage flushed>
It's FUN to watch the DESPERATION of the bigots as their
hate-agendas swirl faster and faster down the Drain of Extinction!
It's the best comic theater since the equally-ignorant segrega-
tionists bit the dust!
[[[ READERS: Note the DISCREPENCIES between the data
above, and the user information in MY posts.
So in case you want to see a good example of just *how*
abjectly IGNORANT the FORGER who posted this crap is
-- just consider the fact that the average 4-year-old newbie
would probably be able to copy and paste my user data
Mark
Yes, really.
>What about those who cannot have children? OR are past
>child bearing age and are still married? What does their *state* of
>being married say to the community then?
Of course there are married couples that can't have
children, and that's why I was careful to use the term
'generally' before explaining what marriage defines.
Do you read what's written before replying to it?
>> When the
>> community at large see our wedding rings they respect our
>> commitment to each other
>
>What if you don't wear rings? Should you be stoned?
Your sarcasm only shows your poor wits rather than
anything else.
>> as being in a straight, normal
>> husband and wife marriage, not a bent, abnormal friendship.
>
>How would anyone know, for any certainty, without asking you?
You should've taken note of my use of the term 'generally'
before jumping in and making a fool of yourself.
>I mean, you *could* be married to others and be cheating.
Yes, but generally no.
>OR
>you could be married to a member of the same sex who just isn't with
>you at the time.
Yes, but generally no.
>OR, you could just be wearing rings for the heckuva it.
Yes, but generally no.
>After all, there is NO law stating that unmarried people cannot
>wear rings.
Yes, but 'generally', only married people wear a wedding
band on their marriage finger.
>> And I want to keep it that way. I don't want queers using the
>> institution of marriage to which I belong to pass themselves
>> off as normal people doing what other normal people like
>> we do in a relationship.
>
>However, they are and they do.
No, they do not. They can't fuck and produce children of
their own, and in that context they aren't normal.
>They care for each other, they love each other,
I love and care for my dog, but that doesn't allow me to
marry him.
>they raise children together,
Not their children, they don't. One or both might bring in
children from a previous normal relationship, but they can
never produce any of their own.
>they do the laundry,
>buy groceries, etc, just like you.
>
>> Unlike queers, my wife and I have
>> a normal sex life. We don't just wank each other off every
>> night like they have to do.
>
>What? Are you nuts?
No, I'm quite sane. It's an obvious fact that queers can't
make love in the normal way. All they can do is wank
each other off.
>> Unlike queers, we have a family
>> of children we can genuinely call of our own. We don't rely
>> on taking in someone else's children and role-play at being
>> a family.
>
>So, in your world view, those who adopt children are just as
>bad as gays in a relationship.
Nope.
>Got it.
No, you haven't. People like you never do get it.
>> Queers are not the same as normal people, and as
>> such they cannot expect to enter the same institution without
>> a great deal of resistance from the members of that institution.
>
>Resistance ONLY from the bigots among us. You seem to be one.
I knew it wouldn't take long for some halfwit to start calling
me a bigot after failing to argue my points successfully.
>> Allowing them entry to it affects it and those who are
>> members of it by mischaracterising and redefining it to such
>> an extent that marriage becomes nothing more than just a mere
>> partnership between pals.
>
>And if your marriage isn't that, I feel sorry for you.
My marriage is much more than just a mere partnership
between pals, and I'm very glad of it, so there's no need
for you to feel sorry for me.
>> People like you who want to
>> redefine it to allow queers obviously have a very poor idea
>> of what marriage is and most likely have a very poor marriage
>> because of it.
>
>Such arrogance!
No, an observation. You think marriage is nothing more
than just a mere partnership between pals, and if it isn't,
then you feel sorry for me and presumably anyone else
whose marriage is much more.
>> Unlike you, I have a very strong and happy
>> marriage because my wife and I fully understand it and
>> appreciate it for what it is. There. Hope that helps.
>
>It certainly clarifies your narrowmindedness that's for sure.
No, but your promotion of queer marriage shows your
narrow mindedness, that's for sure.