3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
(Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
(1) ATHEISTS
Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
such as a RESULT of being atheistic. In reality, though, the
tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
(2) EVOLUTION
...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
evolutionary process.
(3) ABORTION
This is one of the world's GREATEST, most successful,
in terms of efficacy and safety, REMEDIES. It enables no
fewer than a BILLION (with a "B") girls and women over
any given modern-day 18-year-long period, worldwide, to
UNDO an unwanted medical condition that had the potential
to WRECK their futures, and destroy countless of their
future opportunities. It simply resets the clock, and males
it as though the ill-timed pregnancy had never happened.
The IRRATIONAL opponents of this harmless and hugely-
BENEFICIAL remedy like to pretend (and LIE) that mere
RPEs (reproductive-process entities) equate in ANY mean-
ingful way to already-born PEOPLE. They don't. Not even
remotely. Any more than cake batter and acorns, which
have the same "ingredients" even remotely are the equiv-
alent of cakes or oak trees. Bigots who oppose abortion
are among the world's MOST hateful and ignorant louts,
because they seek to FORCE girls and women to gestate
UNwanted pregnancies to term at the expense of count-
less of their future life options, for NO good reason. Girls
and women should always ask THIS question about such
obnoxious losers: "What do YOU have to lose in the course
of forcing US to wreck our futures?" Anti-Choice bigots are
some of the world's MOST irrational and hateful people.
Fortunately for tens of millions of American girls and women,
the benevolent "Roe vs. Wade" decision by the Supreme
Court in 1973 was the greatest single act of EMANCIPA-
in history since Lincoln freed the slaves!
(4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
Could there POSSIBLY be *anything* more HARMLESS
than that? FACT: *NO* facts even EXIST that make a
valid argument for EXCLUDING same-sex couples from
marrying. For example, there is NO requirement for ANY
couple to either procreate, or declare any intention of
having kids. And MILLIONS of opposite-sex married
couples have CHOSEN *not* to! I have yet to see ANY
of the anti-SSM bigots WHINING about THAT! (And it is
a very interesting fact that millions of gay singles and
couples, whether married or not, have decided TO have
and raise children via the MANY legal ways by which they
can obtain them. As can be readily seen by going HERE:
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Millions-have-kids.html.
The most ludicrous LIE that the bigots so desperately
pursue is the specious notion that same-sex marriage
can in ANY way be damaging to opposite-sex marriage.
It flat-out CANNOT. And that makes the so-called
"Defense of Marriage" measures that Congress and
many states have passed proof positive that P.T.
Barnum was right! Fortunately, SO was Lincoln, who
said that one can't fool all of the people all of the time,
and thus, ALL of those hatefully-exclusionary laws will
SURELY end up in history's boneyard before much
longer. JUST as it was utterly STUPID to exclude inter-
racial couples from marriage prior to 1967 -- it is every
bit as irrational and MORONIC to exclude same-sex
couples from marrying today. And society is FAST
learning that, and SOON will throw the hateful and
ignorant bigots under the bus once and for all. Just
look at the wonderful PROGRESS California has been
making, without most of the bigots even realizing it!
California is right on the verge of lowering the boom
on those pathetic losers once and for all !! --
Wayne
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Chris
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>
> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>
> (1) ATHEISTS
>
> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
> respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
> the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
> tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
> such as a RESULT of being atheistic. In reality, though, the
> tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
> power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
>
> (2) EVOLUTION
>
> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
> 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
> whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
> make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
> tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
> of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
> that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
> universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
> simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
> evolutionary process.
During the first billion years God creates light
During the second billion years He divides the waters above from the waters
below
During the third billion years God causes dry land to appear......
Genesis 1:1-2:4
And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman marriage. Never
has been, is not now, and never will be.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>wrote:
And one MORE for good measure:
Pastor Dave
> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) wrote:
>
>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>
>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>
>> (1) ATHEISTS
>>
>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian promote
the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
"The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
Psalm 14:1a
>> Some of the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of
>> the worst tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and
>> Stalin) were such as a RESULT of being atheistic.
They were, according to those men themselves. The did
not have faith in God and they believed in an accidental
creation of the world and in evolution and of course, that
those that they didn't like, were lower on the evolutionary
tree of life.
Of course, there is the propaganda that these men were
Christians (especially Hitler), but in reality, they weren't
and anyone who has studied the actual history, will know
that to be the case.
>> (2) EVOLUTION
>>
>> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
>> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
>> 4-light-year-long columns.
This is a lie and one that Craig is proud to tell! There is
no proof for macroevolution and it does directly conflict
with the Bible, since it says that man evolved from ape
and that Jesus was nothing more than a made over
monkey. It also means that man was not made in
the image of God and is not the pinnacle of God's
creation, since if evolution is true, then it is not done
and that means that man will evolve into something
else, non-human and therefore, the Bible is a lie and
guess what? That means that Jesus had no reason
to be here, since man is not the end of the road for
evolution anyway.
So how can the Bible be true and evolution be true?
It simply cannot! And to quote a famous atheist...
"Evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason
Jesus' earthly life was supposedly made necessary.
Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin and in the
rubble, you will find the sorry remains of the Son of
God. If Jesus was not the Redeemer... and this is
what evolution means, then Christianity is nothing."
- Richard Bozarth, Atheist
>> ABORTION
This one is too obvious and Craigey boy knows it!
> Good going...you named three harmless things.
No he didn't. They are all quite harmful and have
proved themselves to be so. Craig simply ignores
whatever he can't argue and pretends it never
happened. :)
--
Pastor Dave
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Why is that a problem?
thomas p.
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> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:46 -0800, "Wayne"
> <mygarb...@verizon.net> spake thusly:
>
>
>> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) wrote:
>>
>>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>>
>>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>>
>>> (1) ATHEISTS
>>>
>>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>>> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>
> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian promote
> the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
> in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
> respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
> claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
>
> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>
> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
> Psalm 14:1a
And a fool thinks that atheism is a belief system, and a number of liars
claim to think it.
snip of rest of more of the same.
Lefty
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
Shove your fairy tales up your humhole.
> And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
Until you popped up to stand in for him, eh?
So? It has to be exactly the same to be equally legally valid? In that
case, you must also have a problem with the legality of open marriage,
and inter-racial marriage, right, because they differ from the norm?
How about people who marry for money rather than love? How about
straight sexual deviants who marry?
Who set ~you~ up to decide whose marriage is legit and whose isn't?
Pastor Dave
spake thusly:
>> (2) EVOLUTION
>>
>> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
>> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
>> 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
>> whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
>> make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
>> tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
>> of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
>> that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
>> universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
>> simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
>> evolutionary process.
>
>
>During the first billion years God creates light
>During the second billion years He divides the waters above from the waters
>below
>During the third billion years God causes dry land to appear......
>Genesis 1:1-2:4
>
>And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
No, sorry, that doesn't work and it's just you trying
to compromise with atheistic ideas, because you
have been fooled into thinking that macroevolution
is a fact of science. But it isn't.
Nor does evolution in any way possibly line up
with what the Bible says on the Creation!
Just three examples (there are obviously more)...
Contradiction between evolution and creation #1:
Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
before the Earth.
Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
before the Sun.
Contradiction between evolution and creation #2:
Using your "billions of years" scenario, which is
no more than the "Gap Theory", you run into
a serious problem, since your concept states,
as you just demonstrated, that time went by
between the days. However...
Fact: Plants require insects and the Sun to survive.
Fact: If billions of years went by, then plants could
not have survived, considering that they would
have been created billions of years before either
insects or the Sun was created and so no, the
argument that the "Light = the Sun" doesn't
work either, since you're still left with the problem
of the insects.
Contradiction between evolution and creation #3:
Fact: The idea of the Big Bang, etc., means that
evolution is being supported by its proponents,
since the Big Bang is part of evolutionary theory.
Fact: If evolution is true, then that means that man
was not created in God's image, because man
is not the end of evolution, because it is still
continuing and man will evolve into something
else and that means that the Bible is a lie and
so, when you claim to believe in evolution and
the Bible, you cannot be telling the truth.
You did not realize that there are six types of evolution,
because you just believed them, when people who pretend
that they know what they're talking about say it's true.
Nor are you even aware of the fact that these people are
only parroting what they saw on evolutionists web pages.
And rather than truly and seriously investigating this,
you simply couldn't be bothered! So instead, you then
parroted what others who also did nothing have said.
And what is it that they're saying? Whatever they think
will effectively make both true, so that they don't have
to stand up for God and His Christ, that the Scriptures
are 100% the truth. You couldn't be bothered with
doing that and with spending the time to find out
what the truth is. So instead, you were intimidated
by liars like these people, thinking that to contradict
them, is to contradict "science" and gee, we don't
want to look stupid, right? After all, it would be a
great crime to offend any atheist, right?! After all,
it is the atheists who hold the key to the truth, right?!
How about you stop letting people who know nothing
pretend they do and intimidate you! I have had many
arguments with evolutionists and one thing has always,
always, always held true! And that is that not one of
them has ever, not once, given an example of what
they claim happened! Not once! And that is because
it is a lie! And that is why they lie about whoever
demands proof from them and that is why all you
will ever see from them is:
1) Claims of macroevolution, with examples of microevolution,
when you ask for proof.
2) Claims that the word "macroevolution" was invented
by Creationists, when it was actually coined by an
evolutionist. And of course, now you will see a
changed definition for it, that makes it appear
to be microevolution.
3) Claims that they gave proof. Yea, right. Now ask
them to show you a reference to that message.
All you will see, is their demands that we prove
that it did "not" happen and attacks on others.
4) The demand that you prove that it could NOT
have happened. Or in another wording, that
you demonstrate what PREVENTS it from
happening. I.e., Prove a negative.
But what you will never, never, never see, is them
providing any proof that it did! And flowers from
flowers, et al, does not prove flowers from a rock!
Now of course they will quote long winded arguments
and reference web sites and you will feel dumb and
overwhelmed. But that is their intent! And what you
think, is that they actually understand what they pasted!
THEY DON'T!!! They just do it, because they know
you will be a frightened little boy who runs away!
I do understand the various sciences involved and
every single time I have challenged them on what
they pasted and to explain why they agree with
what they pasted in, they do one of three things:
1) Run away.
2) Attack me.
3) Paste something else in, which is proof that
all they have, is what they can paste, but
which they don't understand.
But hey, what a good Christian you are for just caving in
and believing what ignorant men tell you, over what God
says, right?!
After all, isn't the following in the Ten Commandments?
"Thou shalt not contradict what atheists tell you
and thou shalt bow to them, as if they know
more than I, the Lord God does."
So you can claim to be a Christian and then try to
argue with me, instead of acknowledging that what
I posted here are facts, thereby being a hypocrite.
Or you can be honest and acknowledge that what
I posted here are facts and then make a decision
as to which you choose to believe, which is solely
your business.
But the fact is, that you cannot be honest and claim
that you still believe both.
"Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should
have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore
your sin remaineth." - John 9:41
"If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had
not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin."
- John 15:22
Do what you want. It's your choice, son!
But to even give one second of even thinking that Craig
makes sense, when he claims to be a "true Christian"
and yet, says that the atheist belief system is just as
intelligent as any other, is simply flat out ridiculous!
--
Pastor Dave
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saintly. - Unknown
Free Lunch
wrote in alt.atheism:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:43:01 -0800, "Chris" <re...@juno.com>
>spake thusly:
>
>
>>> (2) EVOLUTION
>>>
>>> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
>>> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
>>> 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
>>> whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
>>> make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
>>> tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
>>> of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
>>> that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
>>> universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
>>> simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
>>> evolutionary process.
>>
>>
>>During the first billion years God creates light
>>During the second billion years He divides the waters above from the waters
>>below
>>During the third billion years God causes dry land to appear......
>>Genesis 1:1-2:4
>>
>>And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
>
>No, sorry, that doesn't work and it's just you trying
>to compromise with atheistic ideas, because you
>have been fooled into thinking that macroevolution
>is a fact of science. But it isn't.
Evolution is a fact of reality. Your willingness to lie about that fact
does not change it.
>Nor does evolution in any way possibly line up
>with what the Bible says on the Creation!
That's because your interpretation of the Bible is false doctrine.
>Just three examples (there are obviously more)...
>
>
>Contradiction between evolution and creation #1:
>
>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
> before the Earth.
>
>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
> before the Sun.
The Bible was wrong.
>Contradiction between evolution and creation #2:
>
>Using your "billions of years" scenario, which is
>no more than the "Gap Theory", you run into
>a serious problem, since your concept states,
>as you just demonstrated, that time went by
>between the days. However...
>
>Fact: Plants require insects and the Sun to survive.
Not all plants require insects. A few do not require the sun.
>Fact: If billions of years went by, then plants could
> not have survived, considering that they would
> have been created billions of years before either
> insects or the Sun was created and so no, the
> argument that the "Light = the Sun" doesn't
> work either, since you're still left with the problem
> of the insects.
Your ignorance of the history of life on earth is noted.
>Contradiction between evolution and creation #3:
>
>Fact: The idea of the Big Bang, etc., means that
> evolution is being supported by its proponents,
> since the Big Bang is part of evolutionary theory.
The Big Bang is a cosmological theory from physics. It has nothing to do
with biological evolution.
>Fact: If evolution is true, then that means that man
> was not created in God's image, because man
> is not the end of evolution, because it is still
> continuing and man will evolve into something
> else and that means that the Bible is a lie and
> so, when you claim to believe in evolution and
> the Bible, you cannot be telling the truth.
There is absolutely no evidence to support your claim that mankind was
created in God's image.
You teach lies and blame God for the lies you teach.
...
Pastor Dave
<lefty...@netscape.net> spake thusly:
Thanks for proving to us how the claim of the atheists,
that they are unbiased and don't care if God exists
or not, is a false one. While you think you are somehow
impressing people here, in reality, you are showing
a complete lack of intelligence.
>> > � (3) �ABORTION
Thank you for proving that homo marriage is nothing more
than a slippery slope to all kinds of perverted types of marriage
such as beastiality, open marriage, et al..
And thank you for proving how dishonest you are, by trying
to compare homo marriage to inter-racial marriage, when
they are not even close to being the same thing, as you know.
The fact is that yes, hetero marriage is the only valid marriage
and you talking about whatever deviant things some hetero
couples have done, is nothing more than an attempt to distract
from this fact on your part. And it is a tactic that you would
not even attempt to use, if you were as sure as you claim
you are, that homo marriage is proper.
Heteros doing the wrong thing, does not make homo
marriage valid. Rather, it only makes those heteros
people who violate the bond of marriage.
But you wish to pretend that if you can point to people
doing the wrong thing, that that somehow makes the
wrongs that other people do okay.
Didn't your momma teach you that two wrongs don't
make a right? That would be strange, since I learned
that by the time I was five!
But it does show just how pathetic people like you are,
who promote this perversion based on saying; "Because
there are hetero perverts, that means that homo marriage
is okay!", which is no different than saying... "Since I can
prove that there are hetero perverts, that means that we
should legalize all types of perversion!".
Yea, that's quite an intelligent argument you and the rest
like you have for homo marriage, there! Bawahahaha!!!
What a sad lot you people are! <chuckle>
Look people, this is really simple!
She's an innie.
He's an outtie.
It ain't rocket science! :)
--
Pastor Dave
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Lefty
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:46 -0800, "Wayne"
>
> > "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) wrote:
>
> >> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
> >> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>
> >> (1) ATHEISTS
>
> >> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> >> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
> >> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>
> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian promote
> the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
> in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
> respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
> claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
>
> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>
> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
> Psalm 14:1a
The bible also says that slavery and rape are a-okay. I imagine
Chilton doesn't agree with that, either.
> >> Some of the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of
> >> the worst tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and
> >> Stalin) were such as a RESULT of being atheistic.
>
> They were, according to those men themselves. The did
> not have faith in God and they believed in an accidental
> creation of the world and in evolution and of course, that
> those that they didn't like, were lower on the evolutionary
> tree of life.
>
> Of course, there is the propaganda that these men were
> Christians (especially Hitler), but in reality, they weren't
> and anyone who has studied the actual history, will know
> that to be the case.
Anyone who has studied the history knows you're full of shit.
Hitler's own words;
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting
for the work of the Lord.."
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at
last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for
the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years,
with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in
the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the
Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated,
but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if
there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly
it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a
duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these
men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I
believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity
for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn
against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and
exploited."
"Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against
Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped
into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this
people in utter honesty and sincerity. "
Many more here;
http://nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
Stalin attended the seminary, but was expelled for his Marxist
beliefs.
> >> (2) EVOLUTION
>
> >> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
> >> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
> >> 4-light-year-long columns.
>
> This is a lie and one that Craig is proud to tell!
If so, why can't you refute it?
>There is
> no proof for macroevolution
There's no "proof" of anything, only evidence, and all the evidence is
on the evolutionary side. Sucks for you.
>and it does directly conflict
> with the Bible, since it says that man evolved from ape
> and that Jesus was nothing more than a made over
> monkey.
Yes, and....?
>It also means that man was not made in
> the image of God and is not the pinnacle of God's
> creation, since if evolution is true, then it is not done
> and that means that man will evolve into something
> else, non-human
WTF are you babbling about? That makes no sense whatsoever.
>and therefore, the Bible is a lie and
Yep. Or, if you prefer, a story.
> guess what? That means that Jesus had no reason
> to be here, since man is not the end of the road for
> evolution anyway.
Evolutionary theory does not dictate that there is no possible end
point.
> So how can the Bible be true and evolution be true?
> It simply cannot! And to quote a famous atheist...
Answer; the bible is made-up bullshit.
> "Evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason
> Jesus' earthly life was supposedly made necessary.
> Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin and in the
> rubble, you will find the sorry remains of the Son of
> God. If Jesus was not the Redeemer... and this is
> what evolution means, then Christianity is nothing."
> - Richard Bozarth, Atheist
Damn straight.
> >> ABORTION
>
> This one is too obvious and Craigey boy knows it!
Yet you have no refutation.
> > Good going...you named three harmless things.
>
> No he didn't. They are all quite harmful and have
> proved themselves to be so.
How?
>Craig simply ignores
> whatever he can't argue and pretends it never
> happened. :)
Like you just did, you mean? Where are ~your~ arguments? Where's your
evidence of harm?
Pastor Dave
<lefty...@netscape.net> spake thusly:
>On Nov 22, 1:57�pm, Pastor Dave wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:46 -0800, "Wayne"
>> <mygarbage...@verizon.net> spake thusly:
>>
>> > "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) wrote:
>>
>> >> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>
>> >> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>
>> >> (1) � ATHEISTS
>>
>> >> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>> >> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>> >> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>>
>> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian promote
>> the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
>> in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
>> respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
>> claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
>>
>> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>>
>> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
>> Psalm 14:1a
>
>The bible also says that slavery and rape are a-okay. I imagine
>Chilton doesn't agree with that, either.
Actually, no, it doesn't say that. But thank you
for proving that you're ignorant on the subject
and that you don't much care what the truth is,
since you attack the Bible, to avoid the issue.
Goodbye now. I don't waste time on fools.
--
Pastor Dave
The following is part of my auto-rotating
sig file and not part of the message body.
"If something in science suddenly becomes so sacrosanct
that you can't question it, then it ceases to be science",
he said. "And I really think that's what's become of
Darwinism." - Roger DeHart
Lefty
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:52:05 -0800 (PST), Lefty
>
>
>
> >On Nov 22, 1:57 pm, Pastor Dave wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:46 -0800, "Wayne"
> >> <mygarbage...@verizon.net> spake thusly:
>
> >> > "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) wrote:
>
> >> >> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
> >> >> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>
> >> >> (1) ATHEISTS
>
> >> >> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> >> >> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
> >> >> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>
> >> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian promote
> >> the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
> >> in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
> >> respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
> >> claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
>
> >> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>
> >> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
> >> Psalm 14:1a
>
> >The bible also says that slavery and rape are a-okay. I imagine
> >Chilton doesn't agree with that, either.
>
> Actually, no, it doesn't say that.
<snicker!>
I knew you'd lie.
"You will be engaged to a woman, but another man will ravish her. You
will build a house, but someone else will live in it. You will plant
a vineyard, but you will never enjoy its fruit. Your ox will be
butchered before your eyes, but you won't get a single bite of the
meat. Your donkey will be driven away, never to be returned. Your
sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will be there to help
you. You will watch as your sons and daughters are taken away as
slaves. Your heart will break as you long for them, but nothing you
do will help. A foreign nation you have never heard about will eat
the crops you worked so hard to grow. You will suffer under constant
oppression and harsh treatment. You will go mad because of all the
tragedy around you. The LORD will cover you from head to foot with
incurable boils." Deuteronomy 28:30-35
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at
the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man
who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is
not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke
the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her
to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he
must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then
takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to
sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways,
she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." Exodus
21:7-11
"Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own
house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and
will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in
broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring
it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking
down.'"
2 Samuel 12:11-14
"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms
for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then
all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they
refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.
When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the
town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children,
livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies
that the LORD your God has given you. But these instructions apply
only to distant towns, not to the towns of nations nearby. "As for
the towns of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as a special
possession, destroy every living thing in them. You must completely
destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and
Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you. This will
keep the people of the land from teaching you their detestable customs
in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply
against the LORD your God." Deuteronomy 20:10-18
"They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they
killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings - Evi, Rekem, Zur,
Hur, and Reba - died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of
Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite
women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their
wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the
Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and
captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and
Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was
camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from
Jericho."
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to
meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the
military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you
let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who
followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel
against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the
plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the
women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins
may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31:7-18
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he
must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never
be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that
the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the
slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the
slave is his own property." Exodus 21:20-21
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God,
delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a
comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you
wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But
before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails
and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father
and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you
shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on
you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she
wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was
married to you under compulsion." Deuteronomy 21:10-14
"Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in
your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for
battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished;
half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall
not be removed from the city." Zechariah 14:1-2
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the
foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of
such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your
land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your
children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like
this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated
this way." Leviticus 25:44-46
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve
them sincerely as you would serve Christ." Ephesians 6:5
"Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so
that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your
master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You
should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by
your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to
obey them." 1 Timothy 6:1-2
"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their
little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes.
Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking
hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount
of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot
down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on
helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." Isaiah
13:15-18
>But thank you
> for proving that you're ignorant on the subject
> and that you don't much care what the truth is,
> since you attack the Bible, to avoid the issue.
Oh, the delicious irony.
> Goodbye now. I don't waste time on fools.
Running away like the coward you are, I see, after falsely claiming
~I~ avoided the issue. You are quite possibly the the biggest
hypocrite and most pathetic liar of all time, but then, anyone who
claims to strictly follow the bible's teachings has to be a liar and a
hypocrite, unless he or she is a rapist, child abuser, murderer, and
slave owner.
You wanna be a ~true~ Christian , "Pastor"? Get busy raping and
killing. Don't forget to show no mercy for helpless babies, scumbag.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>
>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>
>> (1) ATHEISTS
>>
>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>> respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
>> the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
>> tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
>> such as a RESULT of being atheistic. In reality, though, the
>> tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
>> power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
>>
>> (2) EVOLUTION
>>
>> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
>> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
>> 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
>> whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
>> make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
>> tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
>> of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
>> that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
>> universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
>> simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
>> evolutionary process.
> During the first billion years God creates light. During the second
> billion years He divides the waters above from the waters below
> During the third billion years God causes dry land to appear......
> Genesis 1:1-2:4
Ad over the course of the last 1-1/2 billion years, lifeforms
evolved to their present situations on this planet.
> And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
Then He has a long time to wait to do that resting, since the
world is only around 4-1/2 billion years old.
>> http://www.Egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
No prob. The same is true of apple trees and orange trees. One is
not the same as the other. Never has been. Is not now. Never will be.
But just like both opposite-sex marriage and same-sex marriage, they are
EQUALLY worthwhile. Thus -- NO problem!
As usual, all you have =done is to remind us that you are a TYPICAL
bigot: a DOLT.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
��� REMEMBER DR. TILLER!! ���
��� REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas ���
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
-- (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <xana...@mchsi.com>
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*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!
Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY in all these places, and
the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
� Netherlands (as of 2001)
� Belgium (2003)
� Massachusetts (2004)
� Canada (2005)
� Spain (2005)
� South Africa (2005)
� Norway (2008)
� Connecticut (2008)
� New York ** (2008)
...and getting very CLOSE in 2009.
� Iowa (2009)
� Vermont (2009)
� Sweden (2009)
� New Hampshire (2009)
� Washington, D.C.** (2009)
� New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
� Hungary: PENDING in 2009
� Albania: PENDING in 2009
� California: Has 18,000 legally-married
same-sex couples, and the future looks
very BRIGHT, per THIS clear trend:
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
� Australia: 60% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
� Britain: 61% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
for couples legally married outside of the
state/district/country.
Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
PHONY- Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> Lefty<lefty...@netscape.net> spake thusly:
>> "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>>> � � � � � � 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>> Genesis 1:1-2:4
>> Shove your fairy tales up your humhole.
>>> And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
>> Until you popped up to stand in for him, eh?
> Thanks for proving to us how the claim of the atheists,
> that they are unbiased and don't care if God exists
> or not, is a false one.
Wrong. They ARE unbiased and simply have seen insufficient proof
of a higher power to believe in one. That is every bit as much their RIGHT
as it is for other people TO believe in one.
Nor are orange trees identical to cherry trees. So what?
>> So? It has to be exactly the same to be equally legally valid? In that
>> case, you must also have a problem with the legality of open marriage,
>> and inter-racial marriage, right, because they differ from the norm?
>> How about people who marry for money rather than love? How about
>> straight sexual deviants who marry?
>>
>> Who set ~you~ up to decide whose marriage is legit and whose isn't?
> Thank you for proving that [same-sex] marriage is nothing more
> than a slippery slope to all kinds of ... of marriage, such as beastiality,
> open marriage, et al.
It's NOT. Let's look at what you said:
(1) Bestiality. It can NEVER be marriage because animals
cannot meet the requirement to CONSENT to it.
(2) Open Marriage. CLUE: That is ANY already-EXISTING
marriage wherein the couple has decided that it's fine
to enjoy recreational sex with other partners. NO biggie!
> And thank you for proving how dishonest you are, by trying
> to compare homo marriage to inter-racial marriage, when
> they are not even close to being the same thing, as you know.
There was NO dishonesty on his part. BUTH situations involve the
unconscionable EXCLUSION from marriage for NO good reason of
of-age and not-to-closely-blood-related people. BOTH exclusions
are manifestations of abject STUPIDITY. The Supreme Court
properly ENDED one exclusion 42 years ago, and unless it is prepared
to TRASH the 14th amendment, it SOON will have to do the SAME for
dame-sex couples.
> The fact is that yes, hetero marriage is the only valid marriage...
BULLCRAP! Only to the SAME extent that *you* are an ACTUAL
pastor! IOW -- not even remotely!
> ...and you talking about whatever ... things some hetero
> couples have done, is nothing more than an attempt to distract
> from this fact on your part.
LOL!!! Your IGNORANCE is exceeded only by your bigotry!
> Heteros doing the wrong thing, does not make homo
> marriage valid.
TRUE! Millions of opposite-sex couples do NOT have children,
per their own CHOICE. And over a million gays (singles and
couples; married or not) *do* HAVE children, by their own choice.
Clearly, different approaches to marriage on the part of ALL
people are EQUALLY valid!
> Rather, it only makes those heteros mpeople who violate
> the bond of marriage.
ANYthing that any couple AGREES to is NOT a "violation" of
anything, busybody!
> But you wish to pretend that if you can point to people
> doing the wrong thing, that that somehow makes the
> wrongs that other people do okay.
ANYthing that any couple AGREES to **IS** okay.
> Didn't your momma teach you that two wrongs don't
> make a right? That would be strange, since I learned
> that by the time I was five!
First, you need to find an ACTUAL wrong.
Hmmm... your PRETENDING to be a pastor, which is a
gross INSULT to all ACTUAL pastors, is wrong. Let's start
with THAT. My father was an ACTUAL minister. So I know
what they do. They make house calls on the sick and
troubled. They visit the hospitalized. They perform weddings
and funerals. They preside over the consistories that enable
their churches to function financially and efficiently. They are
people that one doesn't want to bother on Saturday nights
because they are busy composing sermons. And they wouldn't
BEGIN to have time to live in Usenet, even if they DIDN'T make
total fools of themselves the way YOU do.
YOU are a FRAUD.
> But it does show just how pathetic people like you are, ...
LOL!!! Look who's talking!!
<NONSENSE about nonexistent "perversions" flushed>
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
PHONY-Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> Lefty <lefty...@netscape.net> spake thusly:
>>>>> 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>>>>
>>>>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) � ATHEISTS
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>>>>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>>>>> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>>> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian...
BZZZzzzttt!!! **IS* a Christian, Liar.
>>> ...promote the idea that atheists are among the most
>>> intelligent people in the world and that their belief system
>>> is "every bit as respectable as any other one in the world", ...
...only because they ARE, and it IS. Unlike you, I believe in
being TRUTHFUL.
>>> ...while he also claims to believe the Bible and that it's
>>> God's word.
I do, and I believe that MOST of it IS. See:
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com/Erroneous-Hate.html
>>> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>>>
>>> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
>>> Psalm 14:1a
CLUE: Psalms are SONGS, and they express OPINIONS.
>> The bible also says that slavery and rape are a-okay. I imagine
>> Chilton doesn't agree with that, either.
> Actually, no, it doesn't say that.
Wrong. Just with regard to the issue of SLAVERY, take a
look at this and SEE how wrong you are. The passages cited
in the yellow box:
> Goodbye now. I don't waste time on fools.
That's PHONY-Pastor Dave's SCHTICK!
Whenever he's CORNERED, he RUNS AWAY!!
ROTFL!!! Only "Papa Jack" (R.I.P.) ever was any better at that
than PHONY-Pastor Dave. And Dave is working HARD to catch up!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
About PHONY-Pastor Dave...
Hmmm... your PRETENDING to be a pastor, which is a gross
INSULT to all ACTUAL pastors, is wrong. Let's start with THAT.
My father was an ACTUAL minister. So I *know* what REAL
pastors do. They make house calls on the sick and troubled.
They visit the hospitalized. They perform weddings and funerals.
They preside over the consistories that enable their churches to
function financially and efficiently. They are people that one
doesn't want to bother on Saturday nights because they are
busy composing sermons. And they wouldn't even BEGIN to
have time to live in Usenet, even if they DIDN'T make total fools
of themselves the way YOU do.
YOU are a FRAUD.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Lefty <lefty...@netscape.net> wrote:
> PHONY-Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> PHONY-Pastor Dave wrote:
>>>> "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> spake thusly:
>>>>> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) wrote:
>>>>>> 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
> --Exodus 21:7-11
>
>"Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own
>house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and
>will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in
>broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring
>it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking
>down.'"
> 2 Samuel 12:11-14
>
> "As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms
>for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then
>all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they
>refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.
>When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the
>town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children,
>livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies
>that the LORD your God has given you. But these instructions apply
>only to distant towns, not to the towns of nations nearby. "As for
>the towns of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as a special
>possession, destroy every living thing in them. You must completely
>destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and
>Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you. This will
>keep the people of the land from teaching you their detestable customs
>in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply
>against the LORD your God." Deuteronomy 20:10-18
>
> "They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and
>killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings - Evi, Rekem, Zur, they
>Hur, and Reba - died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of
>Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite
>women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their
>wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the
>Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and
>captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and
>Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was
>camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from
>Jericho."
>Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to
>meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the
>military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you
>let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who
>followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel
>against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the
>plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the
>women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins
>may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31:7-18
>
>"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
>engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he
>must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will r
> Oh, the delicious irony!
>> Goodbye now. �I don't waste time on fools.
> Running away like the coward you are, I see, after falsely claiming
>~I~ avoided the issue. You are quite possibly the the biggest
>hypocrite and most pathetic liar of all time, but then, anyone who
>claims to strictly follow the bible's teachings has to be a liar and a
>hypocrite, unless he or she is a rapist, child abuser, murderer, and
>slave owner.
>
>You wanna be a ~true~ Christian , "Pastor"? Get busy raping and
>killing. Don't forget to show no mercy for helpless babies, scumbag.
ROTFL!!!! You really NAILED that lying loser!! PHONY-Pastor
Dave probably won't stop running until after he's beyond the orbit
of the moon!!
Ray Fischer
>No, sorry, that doesn't work and it's just you trying
>to compromise with atheistic ideas, because you
>have been fooled into thinking that macroevolution
>is a fact of science. But it isn't.
Of course it's a fact. Why do you feel the need to lie about such
things?
>Nor does evolution in any way possibly line up
>with what the Bible says on the Creation!
Of course it does.
>Just three examples (there are obviously more)...
>Contradiction between evolution and creation #1:
>
>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
> before the Earth.
>
>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
> before the Sun.
That says nothing at all about evolution, idiot.
>Contradiction between evolution and creation #2:
>
>Using your "billions of years" scenario, which is
>no more than the "Gap Theory", you run into
>a serious problem, since your concept states,
>as you just demonstrated, that time went by
>between the days. However...
>
>Fact: Plants require insects and the Sun to survive.
>
>Fact: If billions of years went by, then plants could
> not have survived, considering that they would
> have been created billions of years before either
> insects or the Sun was created and so no, the
> argument that the "Light = the Sun" doesn't
> work either, since you're still left with the problem
> of the insects.
You really are a moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Chris
"thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Because his use of the word implies that it IS the same. "Opposite-sex
married couples" is akin to saying wet water.
>
>
Most Holy Mother Tucker
for the devil again:
> � � � � � � �3 ***HARMLESS*** Things
That ain't what the Holy Bible says about such "things". God is angry
with the wicked every single day (Pslam 7:11). You are EXCEEDINGLY
wicked. Therefore God is FURIOUS with you! He may soon pul the plug
on alla your ugly SIN!!!
> that *Bigots* WHINE About
You mean that True Christians like me preach against - according to
the Holy Bible?
> � � � � � � � � � � � � � �(Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
What are we a gonna lose exactly ? You a'ready lost your soul! The
Holy Bible says - "What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the
whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36.
> � �(1) � ATHEISTS
> � � � � � � � Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> � � � � � �people in the world, their belief system
That's a misplaced modifier, old you buzzard!
> is every bit as
> � � � � � �respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
> � � � � � �the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
> � � � � � �tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
> � � � � � �such as a RESULT of being atheistic. �
They were. Atheism is intrinsically evil. The Bible says so.
> In reality, though, the
> � � � � � �tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
> � � � � � �power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
God saves some atheists - but they need to adopt the right attitude.
They need to say "I ain't fount the right church YET" and "I seen so
much hypocrisy in the churches I seen that I can't believe in the God
they pretend to worship YET". They a'so need to keep an open mind and
seek knowledge, preferably in Our Holy Church - where they will surely
see miracles that will convince them that our'n is God's Only TRUE
Church and alla the others are just imitations. They need to do good
deeds alla the time - which a lotta them does a'ready - and not use
THEIR doubt and unbelief as an excuse for wild behavior. That means
they can't screw around. God did NOT create any human body for the
purpose o' fotnication. Sexual sin is an ABOMINATION to A'mighty
God. He will punish it every time! He smites luts filled libertines
with chlamydia every day!
> � �(2) � EVOLUTION
aka the ABSURD theory of EVIL-UTION
> � � � � � � �...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
> � � � � � �that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
> � � � � � �4-light-year-long columns. �The irony is that those who
> � � � � � �whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
> � � � � � �make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
> � � � � � �tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
> � � � � � �of God, rather than diminishing it. �Since it provides evidence
> � � � � � �that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
> � � � � � �universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
> � � � � � �simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
> � � � � � �evolutionary process.
But evil-utionists typically dismiss the role of God in Divine
Creation. The problem is that scientifical types change their silly
theory's a'most every week. One day they'll find out that every word
in the Holy Bible is true - and that undreameda physical law's apply
outside the earthly sphere. Light travels much faster thru empty
space than scientists ever imagined. I'm all for genuine scientifical
INVESTIGATION of the cosmos - as long as scientists openly admit that
1) the Bible is God's Own Word and 2) they really don't know mucha
nothing that God ain't revealed to them thru His Holy Bible.
> � �(3) �ABORTION
aka fetus MURDER!
> � � � � � � �This is one of the world's GREATEST, most successful,
> � � � � � in terms of efficacy and safety, REMEDIES. �
Yeah - it's wunna Satan's remedy's for a getting more sex crazed
whores and butchers into the Putrid Pit o' Hell.
> It enables no
> � � � � � fewer than a BILLION (with a "B") girls and women over
> � � � � � any given modern-day 18-year-long period, worldwide, to
> � � � � � UNDO an unwanted medical condition that had the potential
> � � � � � to WRECK their futures, and destroy countless of their
> � � � � � future opportunities. �
If I don't like my husband, should I be allowed to "undo" him by a
killing him? What about an unruly child? Should I be able to "undo"
them too by chopping them up the way a living fetus is cut up? I
don't think so. Abortion is exactly the same - cold blooded murder.
God will DESTROY anybody that engages in fetus murder in the very
bottom o' hell. That includes dirty old geezers like you what
encourages women to KILL the fetuses that LIVE inside them.
> It simply resets the clock, and males
> � � � � � it as though the ill-timed pregnancy had never happened.
No, idiot. It KILLS a living baby! You are truly disgusting.
> � � � � � The IRRATIONAL opponents of this harmless and hugely-
> � � � � � BENEFICIAL remedy like to pretend (and LIE) that mere
> � � � � � RPEs (reproductive-process entities) equate in ANY mean-
> � � � � � ingful way to already-born PEOPLE. �They don't. �
They definitely do. There are people what don't think Jew's or blacks
or queers or even old people like YOU are human beings either. You
are no better than a Nazi that worked in a death camp. The Nazi's
kilt children. You support butchers what does the same thing today in
fetus murder chop shops. You just wait 'til you stand before A'mighty
God's Great White Throne on Judgment Day. You will suffer torture
beyond imagination for alla the evil you do!
> Not even
> � � � � � remotely. �Any more than cake batter and acorns, which
> � � � � � have the same "ingredients" even remotely are the equiv-
> � � � � � alent of cakes or oak trees. �Bigots who oppose abortion
> � � � � � are among the world's MOST hateful and ignorant louts,
I ain't hateful. I love baby's - even the unborn one's. I counsel
whores outsida fetus murder chop shops and FREQUENTLY convince them to
let their precious baby's live. Mosta the women in Our Holy Church
adopt the children o' whores and dope addicts whose lover boy's want
them to KILL their baby's. Women that murders their fetuses usually
feel guilty about it afterwards. We find out about the one's what
goes thru with the murder and we tell them about it year after year.
The guilt a woman feels over fetus murder only gets worse as the years
go by and Judgment Day gets closer.
> � � � � � because they seek to FORCE girls and women to gestate
> � � � � � UNwanted pregnancies to term at the expense of count-
> � � � � � less of their future life options, for NO good reason.
If'n these whores don't wanna get pregnant, they need to keep their
legs SHUT!
> Girls
> � � � � � and women should always ask THIS question about such
> � � � � � obnoxious losers: �"What do YOU have to lose in the course
> � � � � � of forcing US to wreck our futures?" �
I'll answer that. Allowing fetus murder takes away everybody's
reverence for life. Just look at how scornful and nasty you are
toward Godly people like me. You don't do anthing the Lord Jesus
taught. You're fulla hate and bitterness and lust. That's the way
women that kills their living fetuses either are or will be if'n they
go thru with the murder.
> Anti-Choice bigots are
> � � � � � some of the world's MOST irrational and hateful people.
You're TOTALLY irrationakl and hateful, old crow.
> � � � � � Fortunately for tens of millions of American girls and women,
> � � � � � the benevolent "Roe vs. Wade" decision by the Supreme
> � � � � � Court in 1973 was the greatest single act of EMANCIPA-
> � � � � � in history since Lincoln freed the slaves!
Old Ms. Roe had a total change o' heart later. That's normally for
women what kills their baby's - and rightly so.
> � �(4) �SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
The Lord Jesus defined marriage as a Sacred Union between one man and
one woman - so same sex "marriage" ain't nothing but MOCKERY from
Satan!
> � � � � � Could there POSSIBLY be *anything* more HARMLESS
> � � � � � than that? �FACT: �*NO* facts even EXIST that make a
> � � � � � valid argument for EXCLUDING same-sex couples from
> � � � � � marrying. �For example, there is NO requirement for ANY
> � � � � � couple to either procreate, or declare any intention of
> � � � � � having kids. �And MILLIONS of opposite-sex married
> � � � � � couples have CHOSEN *not* to! �I have yet to see ANY
> � � � � � of the anti-SSM bigots WHINING about THAT! �(And it is
> � � � � � a very interesting fact that millions of gay singles and
> � � � � � couples, whether married or not, have decided TO have
> � � � � � and raise children via the MANY legal ways by which they
> � � � � � can obtain them. �As can be readily seen by going HERE:
Homo sexuals can't love - they only burn in unnatural and impure lust
- so they shouldn't be allowed to mock the Sacred Institution o'
Marriage. They only wanna get their hands on kids so's they can
corrupt and abuse them.
You are evil, old Craig - and the things you encourage are even moe
evil. I'm here to tell you you're a going to HELL forever.
Absolutely disgusted by old sexual perverts -
Reverend Mother Lurlean Tucker
God's TRUE Gospel Witness
Chris
"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
Smiler
Christian maths, where 365,250,000,000 days =24 hours, 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 and Pi
= 3!
Then you know little about the church and it's history.
Same-sex marriages were blessed by the church, up until the 15th century.
http://www.libchrist.com/other/homosexual/gaymarriagerite.html
>>
>> http://www.Egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Smiler
Please explain how the plants, which were created before the sun, survived
for 'a billion years' without any light?
Well, liar. No answer?
Ray Fischer
>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>> before the Earth.
>>>
>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>> before the Sun.
>>
>> The Bible was wrong.
>
>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
Earth and planets orbit around?
When a book of mythology contradicts known science, then it is the
mythology which MUST be wrong.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
JumpsOnFire
<www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>
> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
Crazy Craig Chilton wines about others who have opinions that differ
from his. But none the less he'll sell you some of his snake oil
pamphlets on "How to make millions while 10.2% of the US work force IS
OUT OF WORK."
>
> (Watching Them is Great Fun!! Conning them out of their money is even funner}
>
> (1) ATHEISTS
It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the US."
>
> (2) EVOLUTION
What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't
>
> (3) ABORTION
Opposed by a majority of Americans
>
> (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
Recently VOTED DOWN by the people of Maine and California.
30+ other states already have Constitutions that prohibit same
sex marriage and others have legislation to that effect pending.
BTW, Crazy Craig, that's FOUR, 4 and "shi" in Japanese.
Free Advice -- At 74 you're way too old to still be doing
those recreational pharmaceuticals, Crazy Craig.
>
BE-VA
<www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>
> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
> (1)
> (2)
> (3)
> (4)
YOU IGNORANT FUCK-WIT!
BE-VA
<www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
> And one MORE for good measure:
>
> (4)
YOU IGNORANT FUCK-WIT!
BE-VA
But, boy, a high US Court has ruled that atheism IS a religion. Check
it out, jailhouse lawyer.
>
> snip of rest of more of the same.
Alluding to the homosexual "bull shit" responses of course.
BE-VA
>
> Who set ~you~ up to decide whose marriage is legit and whose isn't?
You're not talking to the good people of Maine or California are you, boy?
Enos Penvy
> "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4b098dfe$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:NKeOm.31444$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
>
> >> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
"Opposite-sex married couples" has become a retronym.
Lefty
tuc...@wowmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 8:06 am, Dirty Old Geezer Craig Chilton <x...@m.com> LIED
> for the devil again:
>
> > 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things
>
> That ain't what the Holy Bible says about such "things".
Who cares? The bible is made-up nonsense.
>God is angry
> with the wicked every single day (Pslam 7:11). You are EXCEEDINGLY
> wicked. Therefore God is FURIOUS with you! He may soon pul the plug
> on alla your ugly SIN!!!
What sin is that?
> > that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
> You mean that True Christians like me preach against - according to
> the Holy Bible?
Do you rape women, keep slaves, and kill children? If not, you are not
following biblical doctrine.
> > (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>
> What are we a gonna lose exactly ? You a'ready lost your soul! The
> Holy Bible says - "What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the
> whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36.
The bible also says you can beat babies to death. Are you going to
stick with that source?
> > (1) ATHEISTS
> > Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> > people in the world, their belief system
>
> That's a misplaced modifier, old you buzzard!
Are you trying to be ironic? You suck at it.
> > is every bit as
> > respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
> > the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
> > tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
> > such as a RESULT of being atheistic.
>
> They were. Atheism is intrinsically evil. The Bible says so.
The bible says you can rape and kill, too. It supports genocide. Gonna
stick with it?
> > In reality, though, the
> > tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
> > power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
>
> God saves some atheists - but they need to adopt the right attitude.
> They need to say "I ain't fount the right church YET" and "I seen so
> much hypocrisy in the churches I seen that I can't believe in the God
> they pretend to worship YET". They a'so need to keep an open mind and
> seek knowledge, preferably in Our Holy Church - where they will surely
> see miracles that will convince them that our'n is God's Only TRUE
> Church and alla the others are just imitations. They need to do good
> deeds alla the time - which a lotta them does a'ready - and not use
> THEIR doubt and unbelief as an excuse for wild behavior. That means
> they can't screw around. God did NOT create any human body for the
> purpose o' fotnication. Sexual sin is an ABOMINATION to A'mighty
> God. He will punish it every time! He smites luts filled libertines
> with chlamydia every day!
Only delusional whackos "see" miracles and only closeted perverts are
sexophobes. So what's the perversion you are trying in vain to hide?
> > (2) EVOLUTION
>
> aka the ABSURD theory of EVIL-UTION
Which you can't refute.
> > ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
> > that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
> > 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
> > whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
> > make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
> > tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
> > of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
> > that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
> > universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
> > simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
> > evolutionary process.
>
> But evil-utionists typically dismiss the role of God in Divine
> Creation.
Idiot, there is no such thing as "divine creation" to evolutionists.
>The problem is that scientifical types change their silly
> theory's a'most every week.
Bullshit. Evolutionary theory is unchanged. I note how you reject
science- it's a hallmark of fascism.
>One day they'll find out that every word
> in the Holy Bible is true - and that undreameda physical law's apply
> outside the earthly sphere.
Dream on.
> Light travels much faster thru empty
> space than scientists ever imagined.
Like through your head, you mean?
>I'm all for genuine scientifical
> INVESTIGATION of the cosmos - as long as scientists openly admit that
> 1) the Bible is God's Own Word and 2) they really don't know mucha
> nothing that God ain't revealed to them thru His Holy Bible.
Too funny. That's sort of like a vegetarian saying "I'm all for people
eating meat, as long as it doesn't come from an animal."
> > (3) ABORTION
>
> aka fetus MURDER!
Who cares if a fetus dies?
> > This is one of the world's GREATEST, most successful,
> > in terms of efficacy and safety, REMEDIES.
>
> Yeah - it's wunna Satan's remedy's for a getting more sex crazed
> whores and butchers into the Putrid Pit o' Hell.
More sexophobia as a cover for deviancy. You seem like a BDSM kind of
guy. You top or bottom? Top, I suspect, and into pain.
> > It enables no
> > fewer than a BILLION (with a "B") girls and women over
> > any given modern-day 18-year-long period, worldwide, to
> > UNDO an unwanted medical condition that had the potential
> > to WRECK their futures, and destroy countless of their
> > future opportunities.
>
> If I don't like my husband, should I be allowed to "undo" him by a
> killing him? What about an unruly child? Should I be able to "undo"
> them too by chopping them up the way a living fetus is cut up?
No, they are sentient creatures.
> I don't think so. Abortion is exactly the same - cold blooded murder.
You're claiming born children and husbands are brainless creatures
with no thoughts or feelings, then.
> God will DESTROY anybody that engages in fetus murder in the very
> bottom o' hell. That includes dirty old geezers like you what
> encourages women to KILL the fetuses that LIVE inside them.
Gee, what a lovely God. I see why a BDSMer would like a God like that.
Does it turn you on thinking of women being tortured in hell?
> > It simply resets the clock, and males
> > it as though the ill-timed pregnancy had never happened.
>
> No, idiot. It KILLS a living baby! You are truly disgusting.
Babies are sentient, dullwit.
> > The IRRATIONAL opponents of this harmless and hugely-
> > BENEFICIAL remedy like to pretend (and LIE) that mere
> > RPEs (reproductive-process entities) equate in ANY mean-
> > ingful way to already-born PEOPLE. They don't.
>
> They definitely do. There are people what don't think Jew's or blacks
> or queers or even old people like YOU are human beings either.
That's irrational and has no reasonable basis, just like your posts.
Those people are all sentient.
>You
> are no better than a Nazi that worked in a death camp. The Nazi's
> kilt children.
Godwin alert. Argumentum ad Hitlerum noted. That's an automatic
concession of defeat.
>You support butchers what does the same thing today in
> fetus murder chop shops. You just wait 'til you stand before A'mighty
> God's Great White Throne on Judgment Day. You will suffer torture
> beyond imagination for alla the evil you do!
Whacking off thinking about it, I see.
> > Not even
> > remotely. Any more than cake batter and acorns, which
> > have the same "ingredients" even remotely are the equiv-
> > alent of cakes or oak trees. Bigots who oppose abortion
> > are among the world's MOST hateful and ignorant louts,
>
> I ain't hateful.
Could be. Maybe you're just so staggeringly stupid that you think
jerking off to the torture porn you post is an expression of love.
>I love baby's - even the unborn one's.
Too bad you can't spell babies, eh? It's interesting to note how so
many anti-abortion types are uneducated. Coincidence? I think not.
>I counsel
> whores outsida fetus murder chop shops and FREQUENTLY convince them to
> let their precious baby's live.
Suuuure you do. The only "counseling" of whores you do involves a
failed attempt at a quickie in the back of your ancient Dodge Caravan,
perv. When you stand outside abortion clinics screeching and pulling
your pud, the whores remember you as "the little guy who couldn't".
>Mosta the women in Our Holy Church
> adopt the children o' whores and dope addicts whose lover boy's want
> them to KILL their baby's.
So their husbands can molest them, sounds like, since your church must
be full of sickos to accept you. Did you get wifey to adopt a handy
little victim for your sadism? I'm sure she's happy you're no longer
whipping her now that you have fresh meat.
>Women that murders their fetuses usually
> feel guilty about it afterwards.
You have no knowledge of or insight into the feelings of women, or of
anything else.
>We find out about the one's what
> goes thru with the murder and we tell them about it year after year.
Yes, and bore the shit out of them.
> The guilt a woman feels over fetus murder only gets worse as the years
> go by and Judgment Day gets closer.
Here we go with more torture fantasies.
> > because they seek to FORCE girls and women to gestate
> > UNwanted pregnancies to term at the expense of count-
> > less of their future life options, for NO good reason.
>
> If'n these whores don't wanna get pregnant, they need to keep their
> legs SHUT!
Sexual sadists are usually woman-haters. You are obviously no
exception.
> > Girls
> > and women should always ask THIS question about such
> > obnoxious losers: "What do YOU have to lose in the course
> > of forcing US to wreck our futures?"
>
> I'll answer that. Allowing fetus murder takes away everybody's
> reverence for life.
It's you who gets his jollies over torture. Is that what you consider
reverence for life? Let me guess- you support capital punishment, too.
>Just look at how scornful and nasty you are
> toward Godly people like me.
You're not in the least godly, and perverted, misogynistic morons like
you deserve far more scorn than Craig has shown.
>You don't do anthing the Lord Jesus
> taught.
Where is ~your~ love and forgiveness, hypocrite?
>You're fulla hate and bitterness and lust.
Smells like classic projection.
>That's the way
> women that kills their living fetuses either are or will be if'n they
> go thru with the murder.
Incoherent hillbilly babble.
> > Anti-Choice bigots are
> > some of the world's MOST irrational and hateful people.
>
> You're TOTALLY irrationakl and hateful, old crow.
I'm quite sure you don't know what irrational means.
> > Fortunately for tens of millions of American girls and women,
> > the benevolent "Roe vs. Wade" decision by the Supreme
> > Court in 1973 was the greatest single act of EMANCIPA-
> > in history since Lincoln freed the slaves!
>
> Old Ms. Roe had a total change o' heart later. That's normally for
> women what kills their baby's - and rightly so.
You mean "normal for women who kill their babies". Get an education,
inbred. Your posts are almost impossible to understand due to your
cracker-ass writing.
But even if written in perfect English, they'd still be laughable
bullshit.
> > (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
>
> The Lord Jesus defined marriage as a Sacred Union between one man and
> one woman - so same sex "marriage" ain't nothing but MOCKERY from
> Satan!
Jesus never said anything about the definition of marriage.
> > Could there POSSIBLY be *anything* more HARMLESS
> > than that? FACT: *NO* facts even EXIST that make a
> > valid argument for EXCLUDING same-sex couples from
> > marrying. For example, there is NO requirement for ANY
> > couple to either procreate, or declare any intention of
> > having kids. And MILLIONS of opposite-sex married
> > couples have CHOSEN *not* to! I have yet to see ANY
> > of the anti-SSM bigots WHINING about THAT! (And it is
> > a very interesting fact that millions of gay singles and
> > couples, whether married or not, have decided TO have
> > and raise children via the MANY legal ways by which they
> > can obtain them. As can be readily seen by going HERE:
>
> Homo sexuals can't love - they only burn in unnatural and impure lust
So lust and love are mutually exclusive? That's certainly a sadist's
philosophy.
> - so they shouldn't be allowed to mock the Sacred Institution o'
> Marriage. They only wanna get their hands on kids so's they can
> corrupt and abuse them.
More projection, methinks.
> You are evil, old Craig - and the things you encourage are even moe
> evil. I'm here to tell you you're a going to HELL forever.
Then so are you, for masturbating while posting.
> Absolutely disgusted by old sexual perverts -
Self loathing sucks, huh.
Lefty
> On 2009-11-22 14:25:34 -0500, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> said:
>
>
>
> > Who set ~you~ up to decide whose marriage is legit and whose isn't?
>
> You're not talking to the good people of Maine or California are you, boy?
You answer a question with an irrelevant question, when the original
question was not even asked of you. Are you swilling sour mash as you
post?
Would you like to know why I haven't engaged in discourse with you?
It's because you're the worst of all things a poster can be. You're a
bore. It's not just because you're stupid, because there are lots of
entertaining morons. You're just stupid in a banal way that has no
entertainment value.
Virgil
"Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b098dfe$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> >
> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> > news:NKeOm.31444$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
> >> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
> >> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
> >
> > Why is that a problem?
>
> Because his use of the word implies that it IS the same.
> "Opposite-sex married couples" is akin to saying wet water.
In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil and
religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the government
defines as civil marriage.
Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
religious marriage is.
Virgil
JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-22 11:06:29 -0500, "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���)
> <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>
> >
> > 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
> Crazy Craig Chilton wines about others who have opinions that differ
> from his. But none the less he'll sell you some of his snake oil
> pamphlets on "How to make millions while 10.2% of the US work force IS
> OUT OF WORK."
>
> >
> > (Watching Them is Great Fun!! Conning them out of their money is even
> > funner}
> >
> > (1) ATHEISTS
>
> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the US."
Disliked only because it is feared by all those idiot theists who deny
any belief in almost as many gods as atheists do. almost as
>
> >
> > (2) EVOLUTION
>
> What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't
It certainly explains a lot of things better than any supposedly holy
books do.
>
> >
> > (3) ABORTION
>
> Opposed by a majority of Americans
Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they ever
were pregnant. Women, for the most part, find that there are situations
where abortion is better than any other option.
>
> >
> > (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
>
To deny the legal benefits of marriage to same-sex pairs for religious
reasons is unAmerican.
Ray Fischer
>On 2009-11-22 11:06:29 -0500, "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���)
><www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>
>>
>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
>Crazy Craig Chilton wines about others who have opinions that differ
>from his. But none the less he'll sell you some of his snake oil
>pamphlets on "How to make millions while 10.2% of the US work force IS
>OUT OF WORK."
>
>>
>> (Watching Them is Great Fun!! Conning them out of their money is even funner}
>>
>> (1) ATHEISTS
>
>It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the US."
Hatred isn't not a Christian ideal.
>> (2) EVOLUTION
>
>What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't
Truth or superstition.
>> (3) ABORTION
>
>Opposed by a majority of Americans
That's a lie.
>> (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
>
>Recently VOTED DOWN by the people of Maine and California.
So what?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>wrote:
>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>
>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>
>> (1) ATHEISTS
>>
>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>> respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
>> the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
>> tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
>> such as a RESULT of being atheistic. In reality, though, the
>> tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
>> power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
>>
>> (2) EVOLUTION
>>
>> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
>> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
>> 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
>> whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
>> make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
>> tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
>> of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
>> that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
>> universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
>> simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
>> evolutionary process.
>>
>> (3) ABORTION
>>
>> This is one of the world's GREATEST, most successful,
>> in terms of efficacy and safety, REMEDIES. It enables no
>> fewer than a BILLION (with a "B") girls and women over
>> any given modern-day 18-year-long period, worldwide, to
>> UNDO an unwanted medical condition that had the potential
>> to WRECK their futures, and destroy countless of their
>> future opportunities. It simply resets the clock, and males
>> it as though the ill-timed pregnancy had never happened.
>> The IRRATIONAL opponents of this harmless and hugely-
>> BENEFICIAL remedy like to pretend (and LIE) that mere
>> RPEs (reproductive-process entities) equate in ANY mean-
>> ingful way to already-born PEOPLE. They don't. Not even
>> remotely. Any more than cake batter and acorns, which
>> have the same "ingredients" even remotely are the equiv-
>> alent of cakes or oak trees. Bigots who oppose abortion
>> are among the world's MOST hateful and ignorant louts,
>> because they seek to FORCE girls and women to gestate
>> UNwanted pregnancies to term at the expense of count-
>> less of their future life options, for NO good reason. Girls
>> and women should always ask THIS question about such
>> obnoxious losers: "What do YOU have to lose in the course
>> of forcing US to wreck our futures?" Anti-Choice bigots are
>> some of the world's MOST irrational and hateful people.
>> Fortunately for tens of millions of American girls and women,
>> the benevolent "Roe vs. Wade" decision by the Supreme
>> Court in 1973 was the greatest single act of EMANCIPA-
>> in history since Lincoln freed the slaves!
And one MORE for good measure:
(4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
Could there POSSIBLY be *anything* more HARMLESS
than that? FACT: *NO* facts even EXIST that make a
valid argument for EXCLUDING same-sex couples from
marrying. For example, there is NO requirement for ANY
couple to either procreate, or declare any intention of
having kids. And MILLIONS of opposite-sex married
couples have CHOSEN *not* to! I have yet to see ANY
of the anti-SSM bigots WHINING about THAT! (And it is
a very interesting fact that millions of gay singles and
couples, whether married or not, have decided TO have
and raise children via the MANY legal ways by which they
can obtain them. As can be readily seen by going HERE:
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Millions-have-kids.html.
The most ludicrous LIE that the bigots so desperately
pursue is the specious notion that same-sex marriage
can in ANY way be damaging to opposite-sex marriage.
It flat-out CANNOT. And that makes the so-called
"Defense of Marriage" measures that Congress and
many states have passed proof positive that P.T.
Barnum was right! Fortunately, SO was Lincoln, who
said that one can't fool all of the people all of the time,
and thus, ALL of those hatefully-exclusionary laws will
SURELY end up in history's boneyard before much
longer. JUST as it was utterly STUPID to exclude inter-
racial couples from marriage prior to 1967 -- it is every
bit as irrational and MORONIC to exclude same-sex
couples from marrying today. And society is FAST
learning that, and SOON will throw the hateful and
ignorant bigots under the bus once and for all. Just
look at the wonderful PROGRESS California has been
making, without most of the bigots even realizing it!
California is right on the verge of lowering the boom
on those pathetic losers once and for all !! --
thomas p.
"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> skrev i meddelelsen
news:Virgil-BDAA3C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> In article <mtnOm.47417$W77....@newsfe11.iad>,
> "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b098dfe$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>> >
>> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> > news:NKeOm.31444$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
>
>> >> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
>> >> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
>> >
>> > Why is that a problem?
>>
>> Because his use of the word implies that it IS the same.
>> "Opposite-sex married couples" is akin to saying wet water.
(piggybacking to respond to a post I did not see)
Not when the law allow same-sex marriage. Why do you think you get to say
such marriages are not equal to any other kind of civil marriage allowed
under
the law?
>
> In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil and
> religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the government
> defines as civil marriage.
>
> Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
> religious marriage is.
He seems to think that there is some kind of absolute law that makes
same-sex marriage impossible.
Chris
"Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com> wrote in message
news:CZnOm.27438$2E.1...@newsfe20.ams2...
Guess again.
Who's talking about "the church"?
Chris
Who said the plants were created before the sun?
CLEARLY, you have me confused with some other poster.
Chris
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4b0a2148$0$1671$742e...@news.sonic.net...
> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>
>>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>>> before the Earth.
>>>>
>>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>>> before the Sun.
>>>
>>> The Bible was wrong.
>>
>>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
>
> If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
> Earth and planets orbit around?
Who said they were orbiting?
Chris
"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
news:Virgil-46848C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> In article <2009112300520577923-geronemo@yahoocom>,
> JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-22 11:06:29 -0500, "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���)
>> <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>>
>> >
>> > 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>
>> Crazy Craig Chilton wines about others who have opinions that differ
>> from his. But none the less he'll sell you some of his snake oil
>> pamphlets on "How to make millions while 10.2% of the US work force IS
>> OUT OF WORK."
>>
>> >
>> > (Watching Them is Great Fun!! Conning them out of their money is even
>> > funner}
>> >
>> > (1) ATHEISTS
>>
>> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the
>> US."
>
> Disliked only because it is feared by all those idiot theists who deny
> any belief in almost as many gods as atheists do. almost as
>>
>> >
>> > (2) EVOLUTION
>>
>> What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't
>
> It certainly explains a lot of things better than any supposedly holy
> books do.
>>
>> >
>> > (3) ABORTION
>>
>> Opposed by a majority of Americans
>
> Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they ever
> were pregnant.
Hypothesis contrary to fact.
> Women, for the most part, find that there are situations
> where abortion is better than any other option.
>>
>> >
>> > (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
>>
> To deny the legal benefits of marriage to same-sex pairs for religious
> reasons is unAmerican.
Does the same hold true for father-daughter pairs, brother-sister?
Chris
Guess again.
Who's talking about "the church"?
> Same-sex marriages were blessed by the church, up until the 15th century.
Chris
>
> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:Virgil-BDAA3C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> In article <mtnOm.47417$W77....@newsfe11.iad>,
>> "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b098dfe$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>>> >
>>> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>>> > news:NKeOm.31444$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
>>
>>> >> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
>>> >> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
>>> >
>>> > Why is that a problem?
>>>
>>> Because his use of the word implies that it IS the same.
>>> "Opposite-sex married couples" is akin to saying wet water.
>
> (piggybacking to respond to a post I did not see)
>
> Not when the law allow same-sex marriage. Why do you think you get to say
> such marriages are not equal to any other kind of civil marriage allowed
> under
> the law?
Better question is why is it so important for them to incorporate the word
"marriage" into their civil unions when such unions afford them IDENTICAL
rights to marriage rights?
>
>
>>
>> In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil and
>> religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the government
>> defines as civil marriage.
>>
>> Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
>> religious marriage is.
>
> He seems to think that there is some kind of absolute law that makes
> same-sex marriage impossible.
That'd be like me calling you a concrete (as opposed to flesh and blood)
human being. I suppose that would work by simply changing the definition of
"human being". You can't use an adjective to precede a word when such
adjective is contrary to the very definition of the word.
>
>
thomas p.
>
> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b0aa420$0$36571$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>>
>> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:Virgil-BDAA3C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>>> In article <mtnOm.47417$W77....@newsfe11.iad>,
>>> "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b098dfe$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>>>> >
>>>> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>>>> > news:NKeOm.31444$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
>>>
>>>> >> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
>>>> >> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
>>>> >
>>>> > Why is that a problem?
>>>>
>>>> Because his use of the word implies that it IS the same.
>>>> "Opposite-sex married couples" is akin to saying wet water.
>>
>> (piggybacking to respond to a post I did not see)
>>
>> Not when the law allow same-sex marriage. Why do you think you get to
>> say
>> such marriages are not equal to any other kind of civil marriage allowed
>> under
>> the law?
>
> Better question is why is it so important for them to incorporate the word
> "marriage" into their civil unions when such unions afford them IDENTICAL
> rights to marriage rights?
I didn't think you would be able to answer the question. Marriage is
whatever the law says it is. Same-sex marriage is, in fact, marriage in
those jurisdictions that allow it. Your opinion does not change that.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil and
>>> religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the government
>>> defines as civil marriage.
>>>
>>> Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
>>> religious marriage is.
>>
>> He seems to think that there is some kind of absolute law that makes
>> same-sex marriage impossible.
>
> That'd be like me calling you a concrete (as opposed to flesh and blood)
> human being. I suppose that would work by simply changing the definition
> of "human being". You can't use an adjective to precede a word when such
> adjective is contrary to the very definition of the word.
>
No, it is nothing like that at all. Marriage is a legal concept. It is
whatever the law says it is.
Ray Fischer
>>>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>>>> before the Earth.
>>>>>
>>>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>>>> before the Sun.
>>>>
>>>> The Bible was wrong.
>>>
>>>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
>>
>> If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
>> Earth and planets orbit around?
>
>Who said they were orbiting?
There isn't any other stable configuration.
thomas p.
If they are being denied for religious reasons yes, but they are not; which
makes your question
pointless.
BE-VA
You came to that conclusion simply because I "BITCH SLAPPED" your sorry
ass, boy? Think about this; you're a newbie in this fight club --
you've got to learn to role with a punch or you won't last more than 3
weeks here.
JumpsOnFire
> In article <2009112300520577923-geronemo@yahoocom>,
> JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-22 11:06:29 -0500, "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���)
>> <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>>
>>>
>>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>
>> Crazy Craig Chilton wines about others who have opinions that differ
>> from his. But none the less he'll sell you some of his snake oil
>> pamphlets on "How to make millions while 10.2% of the US work force IS
>> OUT OF WORK."
>>
>>>
>>> (Watching Them is Great Fun!! Conning them out of their money is even
>>> funner}
>>>
>>> (1) ATHEISTS
>>
>> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the US."
>
> Disliked only because it is feared by all those idiot theists who deny
> any belief in almost as many gods as atheists do. almost as
What's to fear about an atheist? Is it the same "peculiarities that you
sob sisters claim that a majority of Americans fear about cock suckers?
Something akin to, "I'll hit you with my purse" OR "I'll tell you that
I don't think there is a god?" Wooooooooooo! How fucking scary!
<SNIGGER>
BE-VA
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:50:43 -0800, "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
> As long as they are consenting adults, why is it any of your business?
OK, all of you from Alabama can still continue to wed your own brothers
and sister mother and fathers. BUT , you can no longer wed outside your
species. I know that's going to put and end to a lot of barnyard
romances but you'll get over it.
Virgil
"Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
> news:Virgil-46848C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <2009112300520577923-geronemo@yahoocom>,
> > JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > (3) ABORTION
> >>
> >> Opposed by a majority of Americans
> >
> > Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they ever
> > were pregnant.
>
> Hypothesis contrary to fact.
Until men bear the children and we can see how they then stand on the
issue, there is no fact for that hypotheisi to be contrary to.
Lefty
> On 2009-11-23 01:52:03 -0500, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> said:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 1:07 am, BE-VA <blackwater-evangel...@testland.org> wrote:
> >> On 2009-11-22 14:25:34 -0500, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> said:
>
> >>> Who set ~you~ up to decide whose marriage is legit and whose isn't?
>
> >> You're not talking to the good people of Maine or California are you, boy ?
>
> > You answer a question with an irrelevant question, when the original
> > question was not even asked of you. Are you swilling sour mash as you
> > post?
> > Would you like to know why I haven't engaged in discourse with you?
> > It's because you're the worst of all things a poster can be. You're a
> > bore. It's not just because you're stupid, because there are lots of
> > entertaining morons. You're just stupid in a banal way that has no
> > entertainment value.
>
> You came to that conclusion simply because I "BITCH SLAPPED" your sorry
> ass, boy?
Where? I must have missed that. Surely you can't mean your comment
about Maine and California, which didn't even relate to what I said?
That was supposed to be a "bitch slap"?
Standard weak braggadocio, I guess. How dull. Haven't you got
~anything~ original?
>Think about this; you're a newbie in this fight club --
Think about this; look at the posting history before you make such a
silly statement, ya dumb cunt. Could you possibly be any more
clueless?
> you've got to learn to role with a punch or you won't last more than 3
> weeks here.
People who brag and make implied threats are always insecure. They are
completely powerless, lifelong losers IRL, so they pretend they have
some sort of power over others online. It's sad. Please don't make me
feel sorry for you. I hate feeling sorry for assholes. It's better if
I remain coldly indifferent. Does that work for you?
juanjo
>
> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman marriage. Never
> has been, is not now, and never will be.
>
Marriage, regardless of the gender of the people being married is
about a desire of the two people to be legally united, sharing in the
legal benefits and responsibilities of that state, because they love
and are committed to one another. Procreation is something that
happens with or without the state of marriage and that has always been
true. Prior to Christianity becoming predominant in the Western World
there was same sex marriage among the Romans although it was not
common for the reason that same sex will never be common now - the
majority of people are heterosexual. There were also same sex unions
among different aboriginal tribes in the North and South America as
well as in parts of Asia.
The fact that certain irresponsible parties claim that same sex
marriage is some new radical thing is simply not true. It hasn't been
around in recent times but the reason for that is simple. Christian
dominated societies killed anyone they could lay their hands on who
was openly gay until quite recently and had it banned after they took
over formerly non-Christian societies that allowed same sex marriage
such as Rome.
juanjo
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:46 -0800, "Wayne"
>
> > "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) wrote:
>
> >> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
>
> >> (1) ATHEISTS
>
> >> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> >> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
> >> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>
> the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
> in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
> respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
> claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
>
> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>
> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
> Psalm 14:1a
Who cares what the bible says. It is hardly relevant to point to a
book claiming the existance of some sky pixie as proof there is one.
>
> >> Some of the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of
> >> the worst tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and
> >> Stalin) were such as a RESULT of being atheistic.
>
> They were, according to those men themselves. The did
> not have faith in God and they believed in an accidental
> creation of the world and in evolution and of course, that
> those that they didn't like, were lower on the evolutionary
> tree of life.
>
> Of course, there is the propaganda that these men were
> Christians (especially Hitler), but in reality, they weren't
> and anyone who has studied the actual history, will know
> that to be the case.
There have certainly been men who denied the idea of a Supreme Being
who have been very nasty little monsters. But that is no proof that
the lack of such beliefs caused their bloodthirsty actions. More than
one nasty politician or leader has justified his actions based upon
his unrelenting belief that his deity told him he hwas right and all
who disagreed with him must die. How many Hindus and Muslims died in
the partition of India? How many Jews and Muslims did the Crusaders
massacre in the name of Jesus? You mention Hitler who may or may not
have really been a Christian as we would use that term but Hitler used
the predominant anti-Semitic teachings of Protestant and Roman
Catholic theologians and religious leaders to fan the flames of
antisemitism get the populations of Germany and the other countries
under his subjection to either ignore or actively participate in the
murder of 6 million Jews. Indeed the pogrom,s of Eastern Europe and
even Western Europe were fueled by the religious intolerance of
Christian theologians and religious leaders. The Inquisition both in
Spain and elsewhere tortured and killed people for being religious
heretics. The war in the Germanies in the 1500's and 1600's between
Protestant and Catholics are yet another example. The murders of
thousands of people in Great Britain during the battles between the
Protestants and Catholics there certainly show that belief is a deity
is regularly used to justify abuse of people and even death. The
Puritans who fled religious persecution in England later went on to
conduct their own religious persecutions in the America including the
murder of people accused of witchcraft. Cromwell and other
Protestants in England, who caused the death of tens of thousands of
Irish is a further example. And let us not forget Osama Bin Laden who
is currently responsible for the deaths of thousands both in this
country and elsewhere, all done on the name of religious extremism.
Finally there are those in this country who willingly say that those
who differ from their own particular interpretation of religious
scripture are deserving of death; those who kill or advocate the
killing of abortion doctors, the killing of homosexuals or the
sujugation of non-Chritians including their own form of Christian
jihad.
>
> >> (2) EVOLUTION
>
> >> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
> >> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
> >> 4-light-year-long columns.
>
> This is a lie and one that Craig is proud to tell! There is
> no proof for macroevolution and it does directly conflict
> with the Bible, since it says that man evolved from ape
> and that Jesus was nothing more than a made over
> monkey.
Speaking of lies, Pastor Dave.
1. There is proof of macroevolution. It is just that you and yours
refuse to look at it objectively. As for conflicting with the Bible,
maybe it does and maybe it does not, personally I don't care as the
Bible is not a scientific treatise.
2. Evolution does NOT say that man evolved from the ape and never
has. It does say that we have a common ancestor way back.
3. No treatise on evolution I hae ever read says anything about
Jesus, much less that he was a made over monkey.
>
> >> ABORTION
>
> This one is too obvious and Craigey boy knows it!
Too true. The Bible does not mention abortion at all. Nor does it
have any explicit support on your present position that somehow every
fertilized ovum is instantaneously a complete life in being with a
soul. That is an interpretation put forward by men advocating their
interpretation of scripture. Prior to the adoption of that position
relatively recently in Christian history, the official view was that
there was no independent human until the child took its first breath
of air upon birth. That position too was scripturally based.
And if your position was accurate then your deity is world's largest
abortionist as a huge percentage of fertilized ovum never complete the
pregnancy period and are delivered of their mothers. They are
naturally aborted with no intervention by any human.
>
> Pastor Dave
>
juanjo
> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
> >"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
> >>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
> >>> before the Earth.
>
> >>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
> >>> before the Sun.
>
> >> The Bible was wrong.
>
> >So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
>
> If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
> Earth and planets orbit around?
>
> mythology which MUST be wrong.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
Pastor Dave believes that the sun revolves around the earth
juanjo
> On 2009-11-22 14:20:24 -0500, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> said:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:ck1jg5dhmo9ca9h4a...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:46 -0800, "Wayne"
> >> <mygarbage...@verizon.net> spake thusly:
>
> >>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) wrote:
>
> >>>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>
> >>>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>
> >>>> (1) ATHEISTS
>
> >>>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
> >>>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
> >>>> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>
> >> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian promote
> >> the idea that atheists are among the most intelligent people
> >> in the world and that their belief system is "every bit as
> >> respectable as any other one in the world", while he also
> >> claims to believe the Bible and that it's God's word.
>
> >> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>
> >> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
> >> Psalm 14:1a
>
> > claim to think it.
>
> But, boy, a high US Court has ruled that atheism IS a religion. Check
> it out, jailhouse lawyer.
>
Please provide the citation to the court case please
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Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
> SUBMORONIC BIGOT, BILL TAYLOR (aka "JumpsOnFire:) spewed:
>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>> 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>> Craig Chilton [does MANY people a real service during the recession
>> by providing them FULL information on a very AVAILABLE job for which
>> most people over 18 are already qualified. The details can be found at
>> www.TravelForPay.org. AND at www.LayoffRemedy.com.]
There. Even though it was off-topic for this thread, since YOU
brought it up, I've CORRECTED your formerly DIShonest statement,
above, Submoronic-Bigot Taylor. NOW the comment is FACTUAL.
>>> (Watching those bigots is Great Fun!!)
>>>
>>> (1) ATHEISTS
>> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the US."
> Disliked only because it is feared by all those idiot theists who deny
> any belief in almost as many gods as atheists do.
Look who made the comment you responded to. One of the biggest
(and most dishonest FOOLS in Usenet. So -- no surprise that he needed
to b corrected in his lie. Only DOLTS dislike ANY atheists on *that*
specious basis.
>>> (2) EVOLUTION
>> What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't.
And even so, a LOT of *ignorant* people who live in denial of
obvious DO whine about it. Quite irrationally. The "Creation Museum"
in Kentucky is good for LAUGHS!
> It certainly explains a lot of things better than any supposedly holy
> books do.
Yep. There's nothing like good , solid, fossil-filled sedimentary
rock strata, worldwide, to totally DEBUNK specious allegories!
>>> (3) ABORTION
>> Opposed by a majority of Americans.
Another of Taylor's LIES. to BE Anti-Choice, a person has to
actually be DUMB enough to *believe* that mere RPEs (reproductive-
process entities) are entitled to be regarded as PEOPLE... and thus,
those abortion opponents are opposed to ALL abortions. Per the
latest Gallup poll on the topic, only a mere **28%** of Americans
are THAT ignorant and stupid.
> Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they
> ever were pregnant. Women, for the most part, find that there are situ-
> ations where abortion is better than any other option.
Intelligent ones do. But don't forget that there are, unfortunately,
quite a few DOLTISH "Sarah Palins" out and about.
As for men, it's been said that: "If men could get pregnant, abortion
would be a sacrament!"
>>> (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
> To deny the legal benefits of marriage to same-sex pairs for religious
> reasons is unAmerican.
And ABSURD.
Free Lunch
alt.atheism:
>
>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:334jg55irif2ubugi...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:25:33 -0500, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:43:01 -0800, "Chris" <re...@juno.com>
>>>spake thusly:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> (2) EVOLUTION
>>>>>
>>>>> ...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star
>>>>> formation
>>>>> that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
>>>>> 4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
>>>>> whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
>>>>> make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
>>>>> tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
>>>>> of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides
>>>>> evidence
>>>>> that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
>>>>> universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
>>>>> simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
>>>>> evolutionary process.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>During the first billion years God creates light
>>>>During the second billion years He divides the waters above from the
>>>>waters
>>>>below
>>>>During the third billion years God causes dry land to appear......
>>>>Genesis 1:1-2:4
>>>>
>>>>And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
>>>
>>>No, sorry, that doesn't work and it's just you trying
>>>to compromise with atheistic ideas, because you
>>>have been fooled into thinking that macroevolution
>>>is a fact of science. But it isn't.
>>
>> Evolution is a fact of reality. Your willingness to lie about that fact
>> does not change it.
>>
>>>Nor does evolution in any way possibly line up
>>>with what the Bible says on the Creation!
>>
>> That's because your interpretation of the Bible is false doctrine.
>>
>>>Just three examples (there are obviously more)...
>>>
>>>
>>>Contradiction between evolution and creation #1:
>>>
>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>> before the Earth.
>>>
>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>> before the Sun.
>>
>> The Bible was wrong.
>
>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
God forgot the matches. Maybe he gave them to Old Scratch and they got
lost.
>> ...
Smiler
Your book of myths, fables, fairy tales, contradictions and downright lies
that you call 'the bible'.
So you agree that "You teach lies and blame God for the lies you teach."
Free Lunch
alt.atheism:
>Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>
>>>>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>>>>> before the Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>>>>> before the Sun.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bible was wrong.
>>>>
>>>>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
>>>
>>> If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
>>> Earth and planets orbit around?
>>
>>Who said they were orbiting?
>
>There isn't any other stable configuration.
Sure there is. The Bible tells us what it is:
Earth is a plate.
It has a colander over it called Heaven
The stars are the lights that shine through the colander holes.
The plate sits on a foundation and never moves.
The sun runs across the colander the same way it does in Greek
mythology.
Perfectly stable. You can build one in your kitchen.
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"Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com> wrote:
> Same-sex marriages were blessed by the church, up until the
> 15th century.
>
>http://www.libchrist.com/other/homosexual/gaymarriagerite.html
GREAT catch!! I've just incorporated the above link into my
SIG file!
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(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
>>> (Watching Bigots LOSE is Great Fun!!)
>>>
>>> (1) ATHEISTS
>> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority
>> in the US."
Another LIE by Taylor! NO *intelligent* person would ever
disparage any person on so TRIVIAL a basis.
> Hatred isn't not a Christian ideal.
>>> (2) EVOLUTION
>> What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't.
A lot of IDIOT actually *do* WHINE about it.
> Truth or superstition.
>>> (3) ABORTION
>> Opposed by a majority of Americans
> That's a lie.
And a *monumental* one at that. Per the most recent Gallup
Poll, only a mere 28% of Americans are ACTUAL Anti-Choicers.
(The TRUTH and Bill Taylor are mutually-exclusive. And everyone
knows it. He's a bone-IGNORANT laughingstock.)
>>> (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
>> Recently VOTED DOWN by the people of Maine and California.
By bigoted and conned ignoramuses. THAT will very SOON change!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
(Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
(1) ATHEISTS
Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
respectable as that of any other one in the world. Some of
the more IGNORANT bigots claim that some of the worst
tyrannies (such as the USSR under Lenin and Stalin) were
such as a RESULT of being atheistic. In reality, though, the
tyrants simply were misusing atheism by claiming that no
power exceeded that of the TYRANTS or the STATE.
(2) EVOLUTION
...is merely a scientific process, akin to the star formation
that we've seen in that famous Hubble Telescope photo of
4-light-year-long columns. The irony is that those who
whine about evolution and think they can debunk it (and
make fools of themselves in the process) claim to be Chris-
tians... but the process of evolution MAGNIFIES the power
of God, rather than diminishing it. Since it provides evidence
that God not only was omnipotent enough to create the
universe -- but ALSO likely was omnipotent enough to
simultaneously create -- and possibly even guide -- the
evolutionary process.
(3) ABORTION
(4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
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Max (aka "Mother Fucker <mother...@wowmail.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
<idiotic hate-swill by Max/"M-F" flushed>
Actually, there are FOUR:
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Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "BE-VA")
<blackwater...@testland.org> wrote:
[ ... ]
> You came to that conclusion simply because I "BITCH SLAPPED"
> your sorry ass, boy?
One of the BEST ways to spot a loser with a profound inferiority
complex is to see if they condescendingly call perfectly normal people
who are exponentially more "together" than they are, "boy."
It's a dead giveaway! 100% of the time. (Try and think if you've
EVER seen an exception to that.)
And just like Taylor, they almost always are too IGNORANT to
even realize they're revealing their weakness to OBVIOUSLY.
Most Holy Mother Tucker
> Who cares? The bible
Bible
> is made-up nonsense.
No it ain't neither! It's the Word o' God. Every word of it was
inspired by A'mighty God directly.
> What sin is that?
In Old Craig's case there's mostly lust, but a'so irreverence,
hypocrisy and some ugly blasphemy every now and then. He calls me
ugly names - for example. God HATES that. I think he got smote with
the emerods for that!
> Do you rape women, keep slaves, and kill children?
No way. The Holy Bible actually preaches against alla them things.
You gotta read it all to understand what God wants you to do now - not
just bits and pieces.
> If not, you are not following biblical
Biblical
> doctrine.
Excuse me! I'm a Bible school graduate. I'm sure I know more about
what the Holy Bible REALLY says than you do. God put booby traps in
His Word to test your faith. It looks like you FAILED!
> The bible
Bible
> also says you can beat babies to death.
Not just any baby's. If'n you mean Psalm 137:9, that just means that
the Babylonians that kilt little Jewish kids will get their just
deserts. The wicked Babylonians what repented got saved and didn't
need to worry none.
> Are you going to stick with that source?
Absolutely. You just failed another wunna God's booby traps.
> Are you trying to be ironic? You suck at it.
No. I'm a trying to help Dirty Old Craig write right. He's a getting
all senile, you know. He claims to a slept with ten different women.
At least wunna his marriages failed. I don't know that any other
woman would have him. He burned in lust for a colored woman years ago
when that kinda thing was totally taboo. I think he had nastywet
dreams about her dark flesh and extra kinky pubic hair.
> The bible
Bible
> says you can rape and kill, too.
No it doesn't.
> It supports genocide.
No it doesn't. Them wicked Canaanites were welcome to pack up and move
south to make way for the Holy Children of Israel. The pagans
shouldn'ta whored after no pagan gods.
> Gonna stick with it?
Absolutely. Unlike you, I understand exactly what it means.
> Only delusional whackos "see" miracles
WRONG! God performs miracles for the Truly Faithul every day. He
lets me travel thru time and space sometimes - as a matter o' fact.
> and only closeted perverts are sexophobes.
Is that even a word? God wants us to restrain our sexual desires. He
punishes people what run wild with what He created for the purpose o'
procreation only.
> So what's the perversion you are trying in vain to hide?
I am TOTALLY faithful to my loving husband. We got us seven
children. God promised Thurgood seven more!
> Which you can't refute.
The Bible says God created the earth in six days. That settles it for
me. The stars are just decorations for the tapestry o' Heaven. If'n
you repent and go to heaven, you can explore parallel worlds. But
if'n you go to hel, all's you'll be able to do is burn and suffer.
> Idiot, there is no such thing as "divine creation" to evolutionists.
Then they're misguided and need to go back to square one - the Holy
Bible! I know I didn't evolve from no ape - much less no slime ball
at the bottom o' the ocean. The author o' "The Origin of Species" was
really the devil! Charles Darwin just channeled him from hell.
> Bullsh**.
Please don't use ugly words in the presence of a lady. They offend my
Godly sensibility's.
> Evolutionary theory is unchanged.
Oh PLEASE! Scientifical quacks can't decide whether dinosaurs evolved
into birds or lizards or hedge hogs. They change their minds every
day. When I go to the drug store I'm a'ways careful to put
"Scientific American" on the same shelf as "Horoscope" and "Teen
People". The information in any wunna them rags is about as reliable
as t'other - which is to say NOT ONE BIT!
> I note how you reject science- it's a hallmark of fascism.
I don't reject science. I fully support Bible based Creation Science
as revealed in the Holy Bible. I'm a'so against fascism. God wants
Holy Theocracy in this country.
> Dream on.
I don't need to. God shows me True Visions o' far away realms in real
time.
> Like through your head, you mean?
Ha-ha - very funny! My brain is a mirror that reflects God's Glory
faithfully!
> Too funny. That's sort of like a vegetarian saying "I'm all for people
> eating meat, as long as it doesn't come from an animal."
If'n that's the way you wanna interpret it, I can't stop you. I don't
see it that-a-way at all myself. The Holy Bible is the foundation of
ALL knowledge.
> Who cares if a fetus dies?
God does, for one. Alla His Faithful Servants do too. What harm did
a precious fetus ever do to you? If'n I could I'd take a whore's
unwanted fetus into my womb - so long as it wasn't infected with no
AIDS nor herpes - and give it life.
> More sexophobia as a cover for deviancy.
Oh come on! It's mostly whores what wants abortions any way's.
Decent women know how and when to say no. Our Holy Church allows
people to use birth control too. If'n a woman gets raped, we even
allow her to get a morning after pill - provided she goes in for it
ASAP after she gets raped - and naturally with her pastor's
permission. That's provided she wasn't a dressing like no cheap hussy
nor a hanging around some cheap honky tonk when she was attacked.
If'n the sex was consentual - she's gotta pay! It helps if'n she
screams so loud people can hear her during the act - but we realize
that ain't a'way's practical. If'a anybody hears any laughing or a
moaning in pleasure and can prove it, well, she'll have to have the
baby. Truly virtuous women go ahead and have the child any way's -
lessen they're a dealing with an inter racial rape - which is often
the case. If the women was dressed like a tramp or drunk - or if'n
she was voluntarily a committing incest - well, then she needs to
suffer for it. he can put her bastard child up for adoption if'n she
wants to. Our Holy Church finds good Christian homes for the unwanted
children o' slutty women and dope addicts every day. I call that True
Christian Compassion!
> You seem like a BDSM kind of guy.
I'm a happily married woman without NO kinda weird sexual fetishes.
Alla that BDSM is of the devil and from the Pit!
> You top or bottom? Top, I suspect, and into pain.
Gross! Them's queer expressions. Queers a'way's gotta decie whether
they're sockets or plugs. Some uses both ends at once!
> No, they are sentient creatures.
So are living fetuses! I hear my wittle eggy weggy's a talking to me
from deep inside my ovary's sometimes a telling me their secret dreams
and ambitions.
> You're claiming born children and husbands are brainless creatures
> with no thoughts or feelings, then.
Ni I ain't neither! I'm a telling you that precious fetuses got
brains and feelings too.
> Gee, what a lovely God.
Praise the Lord and the Justice He doles out to sinners!
> I see why a BDSMer would like a God like that.
God is a'so merciful to them what repents and renounces the world of
flesh and sin!
> Does it turn you on thinking of women being tortured in hell?
No. I try to keep men AND women outa the bowels o' hell. I got a
degree in faith healing and I can cure homo sexual urges.
> Babies are sentient, dullwit.
So are precious living fetuses! I bonded with alla mine at the very
moment o' conception.
> That's irrational and has no reasonable basis, just like your posts.
That ain't very nice. I'm a preaching the Gospel that saves souls
from damnation.
> Those people are all sentient.
Some more than others - but I say precious fetuses are sentient too.
> Godwin alert. Argumentum ad Hitlerum noted. That's an automatic
> concession of defeat.
No it ain't. All kinda people use the Nazi's as an example o' pure
evil.
> Whacking off thinking about it, I see.
Why do you fantasize about me that-a-way? There's this real old lezbo
around here that dreams o' my big bouncy booby's alla the time. She
even imagines I turnt all queer like her, moved up to Massachusetts
and show her my stuff to get her all wet down below. I ain't like
that at all. I'm good and pure!
> Could be. Maybe you're just so staggeringly stupid that you think
> j***ing off to the torture porn you post is an expression of love.
That's nasty. I don't never have to play with myself. I want people
to go to heaven with me and play the harp on a fluffy white cloud -
but I know they can't do that if'n they care more about booze and dope
and weird sex than about a pleasing the Lord Jesus.
> Too bad you can't spell babies, eh?
We spell words different in Mississippi Country English.
> It's interesting to note how so
> many anti-abortion types are uneducated. Coincidence? I think not.
I'm highly educated. I graduated from a Women's Bible College and can
speak in tongues.
> Suuuure you do. The only "counseling" of whores you do involves a
> failed attempt at a quickie in the back of your ancient Dodge Caravan,
> perv.
MORE vulgar fantasy's. No. I approach women that's headed for the
fetus chop shops and hand them tracts that show them what really goes
on in such Satanical places. Then I offer them the hope o' Heaven
thru repentance and child bearing. We got women down there that cries
out "KIlling my baby completely ruined my life!" too.
> When you stand outside abortion clinics screeching
I don't never screech.
> and pulling your p**,
Pervert! I ain't no man. I don't got no weird sexual desires
neither. I am good!
> the whores remember you as "the little guy who couldn't".
No. They can see the glow o' my holiness and know I'm a preaching the
Truth to them about how much God loves precious little fetuses.
> So their husbands can molest them, sounds like, since your church must
> be full of sickos to accept you.
I happen to be wunna its leaders.
> Did you get wifey to adopt a handy little victim for your sadism? I'm sure she's happy you're no longer
> whipping her now that you have fresh meat.
I ain't adopted no kids yet - but my husband Thurgood blessed a woman
with his Holy Chrism when God struck her mature husband barren.
> You have no knowledge of or insight into the feelings of women, or of
> anything else.
You're wrong about that TOO. A'most any woman what kills her baby
will feel guilt, shame and deep regret. Some even commit suicide. We
ask them to wait 'til the baby's born if;n they really wanna do that.
> Yes, and bore the sh** out of them.
Many of them come to Christ as a resulta my chop shop ministry.
> Here we go with more torture fantasies.
NO! I'm a trying to protect the living fetuses from a being ripped to
shreds inside the womb.
> Sexual sadists are usually woman-haters. You are obviously no
> exception.
An unwanted baby ain't the only thing a woman what spreads her legs
for a strange man can get. God smites whorish women with all kinda
diseases too - including warts. I love other women and want them to
find True Joy in a sanctified marriage like mine. Queer marriage
mockers need not apply - but they can still be CURED! Lotta them gets
the warts up the butt!
> It's you who gets his jollies over torture.
I NEVER! I try to save sinners FROM torment.
> Is that what you consider
> reverence for life? Let me guess- you support capital punishment, too.
The Bible says that people what kills by the sword needs to be avenged
with the sword too. Our Holy Black Queen wants to bring back
stonings, beheadings and witch burnings to stop the crime wave that's
a sweeping the country today. Our prison system is way too lenient.
> You're not in the least godly, and perverted, misogynistic morons like
> you deserve far more scorn than Craig has shown.
But I love the Lord and alla His Creation - wretched scum that most
people are. I wanna get them into heaven with me so's I can invite
them over to my mansion to hear me and Sister Sunshine sing Gospel
hymns.
> Where is ~your~ love and forgiveness, hypocrite?
I ain't NO hypocrite. True Christian Compassion just flows offa me
like the waters o' Niagara Falls.
> Smells like classic projection.
You know that ain't true. I'm a good woman. I pray for sinners every
day - even the old witch that cut me off on the free way this after
noon and made me late a getting home. I didn't have Thurgood's supper
ready on time. I don't get no dessert whenever that happens.
> Incoherent hillbilly babble.
I'm from Mississippi - not the hills. I'm a'so a highly educated
woman. I graduated from Bible school with honors!
> I'm quite sure you don't know what irrational means.
It means devoid of reason. I speak in True Tongues - remember.
> You mean "normal for women who kill their babies".
Something like that. We talk different down in Mississippi. I think
you need to learn how to respect diversity! You liberals don't never
practice what you all preach.
> Get an education,
I did. I plan to go back to school after my baby's is all growed up
and study advanced basket weaving. I ain't crocheted in so long I
lost my touch!
> inbred.
I ain't inbred. Ain't no incest in my family. My daddy made sura
that.
> Your posts are almost impossible to understand due to your cracker-*** writing.
I think it has character. You oughta hear me talk! My preaching is
very persuasive. Mother Keesha in Our Holy Church gave up her Ebonic
ministry and lost followers as a result
> But even if written in perfect English, they'd still be laughable bullsh**.
That's what the pagans said about the Gospel - and just looky where
they wound up - in HELL!
> Jesus never said anything about the definition of marriage.
Yes He did! You musta missed that part - and it ain't even a booby
trap. Go read matthew 19:4-6 - which saith "Have ye not read, that he
which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said,
For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave
to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no
more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together,
let not man put asunder".
> So lust and love are mutually exclusive?
Yes. Sexual desire within a sanctified marriage is a far cry from
animal lust. Homo sexuals can only feel lust. They usually feel an
unnatural impulse to consume all kinda victims sexually - like a black
widow spider. Our Holy Church ran a scientifical study a coupla years
ago that found that most homo sexuals is really a kinda vampire. They
may not all suck blood - a'though summa them do that - but they crave
one kinda bodily fluid or t'other. They're attarcted to the night
life and theaters. The one's that ain't vampires is either ghouls or
werewolves or mummy's or some kinda monstruous critter that wants to
suck the life outa young people. That old lezzy I told you about wats
wants to sink her dentures into my soft young booby's and drain alla
my youth and beauty away. There's some queers what bathes in the
blood o' virgins.
> That's certainly a sadist's philosophy.
I ain't the least bit sadistic. I cure impure sexual desires.
> More projection, methinks.
Youthinks wrong. REPENT!!
> Then so are you, for masturbating while posting.
I ain't never done no such nasty thing!
> Self loathing sucks, huh.
I wouldn't know about that.
I'll pray for you, heathen -
Reverend Mother Lurlean Tucker
God's Little Gospel Lambkin
Stile4aly
tuc...@wowmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 8:06 am, Dirty Old Geezer Craig Chilton <x...@m.com> LIED
> for the devil again:
>
<snip>
Ok, I'm calling Loki. My Poe's Law detector is redlining and smoking.
Lefty
tuc...@wowmail.com> wrote:
<snip amusing lunacy>
Okay, I see now that you're a troll posing as a crazed fundie. Well
done.
Lefty
Reverend Mother Fucker's got to be a troll making fun of bible-
thumpers.
Lefty
" <x...@m.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:46:49 -0500,
> Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "BE-VA")
>
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > You came to that conclusion simply because I "BITCH SLAPPED"
> > your sorry ass, boy?
>
> One of the BEST ways to spot a loser with a profound inferiority
> complex is to see if they condescendingly call perfectly normal people
> who are exponentially more "together" than they are, "boy."
>
> It's a dead giveaway! 100% of the time. (Try and think if you've
> EVER seen an exception to that.)
>
> And just like Taylor, they almost always are too IGNORANT to
> even realize they're revealing their weakness to OBVIOUSLY.
That's Taylor? Damn, is he ever boring.
Lefty
> On Nov 22, 9:06 pm, Most Holy Mother Tucker <mother-tuc...@wowmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 22, 8:06 am, Dirty Old Geezer Craig Chilton <x...@m.com> LIED
> > for the devil again:
>
> <snip>
>
> Ok, I'm calling Loki. My Poe's Law detector is redlining and smoking.
I think it's a parody. What clinched it was the reference to "my
little eggy-weggies". Damn good job.
Chris
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> wrote in
message news:okajg59b7bla9r8jf...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:43:01 -0800,
>> billion years He divides the waters above from the waters below
>> During the third billion years God causes dry land to appear......
>> Genesis 1:1-2:4
>
> evolved to their present situations on this planet.
Which lifeforms?
>
>> And during the seventh billion years, He rested!
>
> Then He has a long time to wait to do that resting, since the
> world is only around 4-1/2 billion years old.
>> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
>> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
>
> No prob. The same is true of apple trees and orange trees. One is
> not the same as the other. Never has been. Is not now. Never will be.
But they ARE the same as far as being trees.
> But just like both opposite-sex marriage and same-sex marriage, they are
> EQUALLY worthwhile. Thus -- NO problem!
Worthwhile being a matter of opinion. But the fact remains that "marriage"
is the institution between a man and a woman; hence the problem.
>
> As usual, all you have =done is to remind us that you are a TYPICAL
> bigot:
What, exactly, makes me a bigot?
> a DOLT.
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> ... REMEMBER DR. TILLER!! ...
> ... REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas ...
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> -- (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <xana...@mchsi.com>
>
> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com -- Unemployment Solution!
> http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
> http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
> http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
> http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
> http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
> FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!
>
> Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY in all these places, and
> the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
>
> ( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
>
> . Netherlands (as of 2001)
> . Belgium (2003)
> . Massachusetts (2004)
> . Canada (2005)
> . Spain (2005)
> . South Africa (2005)
> . Norway (2008)
> . Connecticut (2008)
> . New York ** (2008)
> ...and getting very CLOSE in 2009.
> . Iowa (2009)
> . Vermont (2009)
> . Sweden (2009)
> . New Hampshire (2009)
> . Washington, D.C.** (2009)
> . New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
> . Hungary: PENDING in 2009
> . Albania: PENDING in 2009
> . California: Has 18,000 legally-married
> same-sex couples, and the future looks
> very BRIGHT, per THIS clear trend:
> http://www.Egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
>
> . Australia: 60% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
> . Britain: 61% of Population now SUPPORTS it!
>
> ** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
> France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
> for couples legally married outside of the
> state/district/country.
>
> Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
> in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
> continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
>
> The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
> is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
> 50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
> both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
> we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
Just curious: would you have a problem with the creation of a new word that
is defined as the marriage between a man and a woman?
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Chris
"thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4b0ad2b5$0$36566$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>
> "Chris" <re...@juno.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:7nzOm.37925$6c2....@newsfe03.iad...
>>
>> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
>> news:Virgil-46848C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>>> In article <2009112300520577923-geronemo@yahoocom>,
>>> JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <www.LayoffRemedy.com> " <x...@m.com> said:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > 3 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>>>
>>>> Crazy Craig Chilton wines about others who have opinions that differ
>>>> from his. But none the less he'll sell you some of his snake oil
>>>> pamphlets on "How to make millions while 10.2% of the US work force IS
>>>> OUT OF WORK."
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > (Watching Them is Great Fun!! Conning them out of their money is even
>>>> > funner}
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority in the
>>>> US."
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > (2) EVOLUTION
>>>>
>>>> What's to whine about? You either believe it or you don't
>>>
>>> books do.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Opposed by a majority of Americans
>>>
>>> were pregnant.
>>
>>
>>> Women, for the most part, find that there are situations
>>> where abortion is better than any other option.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> To deny the legal benefits of marriage to same-sex pairs for religious
>>> reasons is unAmerican.
>>
>>
>
> If they are being denied for religious reasons yes, but they are not;
> which makes your question
> pointless.
Yet you answered it.
>
>
Chris
"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
Yes there is; the fact that they DON'T bear children.
Chris
>>>
>>> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> skrev i meddelelsen
>>> news:Virgil-BDAA3C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>>>> In article <mtnOm.47417$W77....@newsfe11.iad>,>>>>> news:4b098dfe$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...>>>>> > news:NKeOm.31444$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
>>>>
>>>>> >> Problem is same-sex "marriage" is not the same as man-woman
>>>>> >> marriage. Never has been, is not now, and never will be.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Because his use of the word implies that it IS the same.
>>>>> "Opposite-sex married couples" is akin to saying wet water.
>>>
>>> (piggybacking to respond to a post I did not see)
>>>
>>> Not when the law allow same-sex marriage. Why do you think you get to
>>> say
>>> such marriages are not equal to any other kind of civil marriage allowed
>>> under
>>> the law?
>>
>> Better question is why is it so important for them to incorporate the
>> word "marriage" into their civil unions when such unions afford them
>> IDENTICAL rights to marriage rights?
>
> I didn't think you would be able to answer the question. Marriage is
> whatever the law says it is. Same-sex marriage is, in fact, marriage in
> those jurisdictions that allow it. Your opinion does not change that.
I get to say such "marriages" are not equal because they AREN'T. Marriage is
the union between a man and a woman. Same sex "marriage" cannot be for the
same reason two bolts or two nuts cannot unite. Feel better now?
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil
>>>> and
>>>> religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the
>>>> government
>>>> defines as civil marriage.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
>>>> religious marriage is.
>>>
>>> He seems to think that there is some kind of absolute law that makes
>>> same-sex marriage impossible.
>>
>> That'd be like me calling you a concrete (as opposed to flesh and blood)
>> human being. I suppose that would work by simply changing the definition
>> of "human being". You can't use an adjective to precede a word when such
>> adjective is contrary to the very definition of the word.
>>
>
> No, it is nothing like that at all.
That is EXACTLY what it's like.
> Marriage is a legal concept.
It's also a social concept; or did you forget that part?
> It is whatever the law says it is.
>
Ray Fischer
>> whatever the law says it is. Same-sex marriage is, in fact, marriage in
>> those jurisdictions that allow it. Your opinion does not change that.
>
>I get to say such "marriages" are not equal because they AREN'T. Marriage is
>the union between a man and a woman.
Because you say so?
> Same sex "marriage" cannot be for the
>same reason two bolts or two nuts cannot unite.
Gee, an argument against mixed-race marriage.
Just not a good argument.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Virgil
"Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
> news:Virgil-39E50A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <7nzOm.37925$6c2....@newsfe03.iad>,
> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
> >> news:Virgil-46848C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> >> > In article <2009112300520577923-geronemo@yahoocom>,
> >> > JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> > (3) ABORTION
> >> >>
> >> >> Opposed by a majority of Americans
> >> >
> >> > Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they
> >> > ever
> >> > were pregnant.
> >>
> >> Hypothesis contrary to fact.
> >
> > Until men bear the children and we can see how they then stand on the
> > issue, there is no fact for that hypothesis to be contrary to.
>
> Yes there is; the fact that they DON'T bear children.
It has yet to be established that medical science cannot change that.
My hypothesis is that those who can bear children and those who can
merely father them have, on the whole, differing views on the issue of
abortion, since it directly affects only the childbearers.
And that since it is entirely a religiously biased issue in a nation
which claims to be free from religious persecution, that religions
should be barred from the discussion, and it should be left to the women
considering it and the medical professionals who would be called
on to perform it.
thomas p.
I have no problem at all. You may say whatever you want, but it does not
change
reality. Marriage is a legal concept, and as such it is whatever the law
says it is.
Same-sex marriage exists, but feel free to make believe that it doesn't; if
it makes
you feel better.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil
>>>>> and
>>>>> religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the
>>>>> government
>>>>> defines as civil marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
>>>>> religious marriage is.
>>>>
>>>> He seems to think that there is some kind of absolute law that makes
>>>> same-sex marriage impossible.
>>>
>>> That'd be like me calling you a concrete (as opposed to flesh and blood)
>>> human being. I suppose that would work by simply changing the definition
>>> of "human being". You can't use an adjective to precede a word when such
>>> adjective is contrary to the very definition of the word.
>>>
>>
>> No, it is nothing like that at all.
>
> That is EXACTLY what it's like.
>
>> Marriage is a legal concept.
>
> It's also a social concept; or did you forget that part?
No, so what? Never mind though; you are free to
think same-sex marriage doesn't exist. The couples who
have taken advantage of the law will continue to be
married no matter what you think. They will continue
to have exactly the same legal status as heterosexual
couples, i.e. they will be married.
thomas p.
snip
> Just curious: would you have a problem with the creation of a new word
> that is defined as the marriage between a man and a woman?
Words are created all the time. Creating a new word does not change legal
reality, and civil marriage is defined by the law. No matter what the law
says though, you
will still be free to approve or not approve; just as racists are free to
disapprove of
mixed-race marriages. Nobody is imposing anything on you.
thomas p.
Yes I did. Thank you for the admission.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "JumpsOnFire") spewed:
> Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
>> Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "JumpsOnFire") spewed:
>>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>>> 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>> Craig Chilton [does MANY people a real service during the recession
>>> by providing them FULL information on a very AVAILABLE job for which
>>> most people over 18 are already qualified. The details can be found at
>>> www.TravelForPay.org. AND at www.LayoffRemedy.com.]
There. Even though it was off-topic for this thread, since YOU
brought it up, I've CORRECTED your formerly DIShonest statement,
above, Submoronic-Bigot Taylor. NOW the comment is FACTUAL.
>>>> (Watching those bigots is Great Fun!!)
>>>>
>>>> (1) ATHEISTS
>>> It's not whining when it's about "The most "dislikeded minority
>>> in the US."
LYING continues to be your long suit, Taylor. Along with ignorance.
Because INTELLIGENT Americans couldn't care less about the religious
views of any other people. INTELLIGENT people *reject* BUSYBODYISM
over such *personal* and TRIVIAL matters. The ONLY time that a per-
son's religious views count is when he/she obnoxiously uses it as an
excuse for attempting to interfere with people's personal liberties -- as
the RRR and LDS Cults do, and as the RCC Cult recently as been doing.
>> Disliked only because it is feared by all those idiot theists who deny
>> any belief in almost as many gods as atheists do. almost as
> What's to fear about an atheist?
Absolutely NOTHING.
>>>> (2) EVOLUTION
>> It certainly explains a lot of things better than any supposedly
>> holy books do.
And actually, NOTHING in the Bible conflicts with the process
of evolution, or vice-versa.
>>>> (3) ABORTION
>>> Opposed by...
...only a mere 28% of Americans, per the Gallup Poll.
Ignoramuses.
>> Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they
>> ever were pregnant. Women, for the most part, find that there are
>> situations where abortion is better than any other option.
>>>> (4) SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
>> To deny the legal benefits of marriage to same-sex pairs for religious
>> reasons is unAmerican.
And STUPID.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
PHONY-Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> Lefty <lefty...@netscape.net> spake thusly:
>> Pastor Dave wrote:
>>> "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) wrote:
>>>>> 4 ***HARMLESS*** Things that *Bigots* WHINE About
>>>>>
>>>>> (Watching Them LOSE is Great Fun!!}
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) � ATHEISTS
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides being some of the most inquisitive and intelligent
>>>>> people in the world, their belief system is every bit as
>>>>> respectable as that of any other one in the world.
>>> Now look at the man who claims to be a Christian...
BZZZzzzttt!!! **IS* a Christian, Liar.
>>> ...promote the idea that atheists are among the most
>>> intelligent people in the world and that their belief system
>>> is "every bit as respectable as any other one in the world", ...
...only because they ARE, and it IS. Unlike you, I believe in
being TRUTHFUL.
>>> ...while he also claims to believe the Bible and that it's
>>> God's word.
I do, and I believe that MOST of it IS. See:
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com/Erroneous-Hate.html
>>> But what does the Bible say about the atheist?
>>>
>>> "The fool hath said in his heart; 'There is no God'."
>>> Psalm 14:1a
CLUE: Psalms are SONGS, and they express OPINIONS.
>> The bible also says that slavery and rape are a-okay. I imagine
>> Chilton doesn't agree with that, either.
> Actually, no, it doesn't say that.
Wrong. Just with regard to the issue of SLAVERY, take a
look at this and SEE how wrong you are. The passages cited
in the yellow box:
> Goodbye now. I don't waste time on fools.
That's PHONY-Pastor Dave's SCHTICK!
Whenever he's CORNERED, he RUNS AWAY!!
ROTFL!!! Only "Papa Jack" (R.I.P.) ever was any better at that
than PHONY-Pastor Dave. And Dave is working HARD to catch up!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
About PHONY-Pastor Dave...
Hmmm... your PRETENDING to be a pastor, which is a gross
INSULT to all ACTUAL pastors, is wrong. Let's start with THAT.
My father was an ACTUAL minister. So I *know* what REAL
pastors do. They make house calls on the sick and troubled.
They visit the hospitalized. They perform weddings and funerals.
They preside over the consistories that enable their churches to
function financially and efficiently. They are people that one
doesn't want to bother on Saturday nights because they are
busy composing sermons. And they wouldn't even BEGIN to
have time to live in Usenet, even if they DIDN'T make total fools
of themselves the way YOU do.
YOU are a FRAUD.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
SUBMORONIC BIGOT, BILL TAYLOR (aka "BE-VA")
<blackwater...@testland.org> wrote:
> You're not talking to ... are you, boy ?
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Submoronic Bigot, Bill Taylor, Regularaly REMINDS
Everyone that He's Merely an INSECURE Little Dweeb
...as we see HERE, where Taylor wrote:
> You came to that conclusion simply because I "BITCH SLAPPED"
> your sorry ass, boy?
One of the BEST ways to spot a LOSER with a profound inferiority
complex is to see if they condescendingly call perfectly normal people
who are exponentially more "together" than they are, "boy."
It's a dead giveaway! 100% of the time. (Try and think if you've
EVER seen an exception to that.)
And just like Taylor, they almost always are too IGNORANT to
even realize they're revealing their weakness to OBVIOUSLY.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
>> And over the course of the last 1-1/2 billion years, lifeforms
>> evolved to their present situations on this planet.
> Which lifeforms?
ALL of them, TROLL.
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>> But just like both opposite-sex marriage and same-sex marriage,
>> they are EQUALLY worthwhile. Thus -- NO problem!
> Worthwhile being a matter of opinion.
For INTELLIGENT and FAIR-minded people, it's NO contest.
Same-sex marriage and opposite-sex marriage have EQUAL value.
Both are simply MARRIAGES... period.
<bigoted CRAP flushed>
>> As usual, all you have =done is to remind us that you are a TYPICAL
>> bigot:
>>
Yes! Marriage is MARRIAGE, period. The gender composition is
totally IRRELEVANT. Just as much as skin color is.
Also, see THIS:
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Marriage-is-MARRIAGE.html
>> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Lefty <lefty_t...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Some other people in here have thought that in the past.
But in my opinion, it's 'WAY too overdone for that, and Max has
been doing it 'WAY too long. I think that he is genuinely insane.
Chris
So, was that a "yes" or a "no"?
>
>
Puck Greenman
I can't speak for Thomas, but I certainly would object.
Chris
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>
>>>>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>>>>> before the Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>>>>> before the Sun.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bible was wrong.
>>>>
>>>>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
>>>
>>> If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
>>> Earth and planets orbit around?
>>
>>Who said they were orbiting?
>
> There isn't any other stable configuration.
Define what you mean by "stable". And then explain why such configuration
must be "stable".
>
>>> When a book of mythology contradicts known science, then it is the
>>> mythology which MUST be wrong.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Chris
> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>"thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> I didn't think you would be able to answer the question. Marriage is
>>> whatever the law says it is. Same-sex marriage is, in fact, marriage in
>>> those jurisdictions that allow it. Your opinion does not change that.
>>
>>I get to say such "marriages" are not equal because they AREN'T. Marriage
>>is
>>the union between a man and a woman.
>
> Because you say so?
Reread the statement below for your answer.
>
>> Same sex "marriage" cannot be for the
>>same reason two bolts or two nuts cannot unite.
>
> Gee, an argument against mixed-race marriage.
Not even CLOSE.
Chris
"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
> In article <UGJOm.24497$Sw5....@newsfe16.iad>,
> "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
>> news:Virgil-39E50A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > In article <7nzOm.37925$6c2....@newsfe03.iad>,
>> > "Chris" <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
>> >> news:Virgil-46848C....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> >> > In article <2009112300520577923-geronemo@yahoocom>,
>> >> > JumpsOnFire <gero...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> > (3) ABORTION
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Opposed by a majority of Americans
>> >> >
>> >> > Opposed mostly by men, who would quickly reverse themselves if they
>> >> > ever
>> >> > were pregnant.
>> >>
>> >> Hypothesis contrary to fact.
>> >
>> > Until men bear the children and we can see how they then stand on the
>> > issue, there is no fact for that hypothesis to be contrary to.
>>
>> Yes there is; the fact that they DON'T bear children.
>
> It has yet to be established that medical science cannot change that.
Translation: Medical science will one day change that. Argumentum ad
futuris.
>
> My hypothesis is that those who can bear children and those who can
> merely father them have, on the whole, differing views on the issue of
> abortion, since it directly affects only the childbearers.
That could not be FURTHER from the truth!
Chris
As did three-fifths people.
> but feel free to make believe that it doesn't; if it makes
> you feel better.
I suppose if your law calls you a dog, then you are a dog too.
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In many nations there re two quite separate forms of marriage, civil
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> religious, and it is none of any religion's business what the
>>>>>> government
>>>>>> defines as civil marriage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise governments would have an equal right to dictate what
>>>>>> religious marriage is.
>>>>>
>>>>> He seems to think that there is some kind of absolute law that makes
>>>>> same-sex marriage impossible.
>>>>
>>>> That'd be like me calling you a concrete (as opposed to flesh and
>>>> blood) human being. I suppose that would work by simply changing the
>>>> definition of "human being". You can't use an adjective to precede a
>>>> word when such adjective is contrary to the very definition of the
>>>> word.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, it is nothing like that at all.
>>
>> That is EXACTLY what it's like.
>>
>>> Marriage is a legal concept.
>>
>> It's also a social concept; or did you forget that part?
>
> No, so what? Never mind though; you are free to
> think same-sex marriage doesn't exist. The couples who
> have taken advantage of the law will continue to be
> married no matter what you think. They will continue
> to have exactly the same legal status as heterosexual
> couples, i.e. they will be married.
Never ceases to amaze me how some folks need "the law" to define
reality.........
(also see below)
thomas p.
>
> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b0b7ad1$0$36565$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>>>
>>> I get to say such "marriages" are not equal because they AREN'T.
>>> Marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Same sex "marriage"
>>> cannot be for the same reason two bolts or two nuts cannot unite. Feel
>>> better now?
>>
>>
>> I have no problem at all. You may say whatever you want, but it does not
>> change
>> reality. Marriage is a legal concept, and as such it is whatever the law
>> says it is.
>> Same-sex marriage exists,
>
> As did three-fifths people.
No, that was a method of determining representation. Nobody claimed there
was actually such
a thing.
>
>> but feel free to make believe that it doesn't; if it makes
>> you feel better.
>
> I suppose if your law calls you a dog, then you are a dog too.
No, dogs are living creatures not a concept defined by law.
Civil marriage would not exist at all
without the law, so of course the law defines what it is.
thomas p.
Quite obviously I was pointing out that it would not make any difference.
Words
will be invented, our permission is not required. If you want to call
heterosexual
marriage by a different name go ahead. Civil marriage will still be (also
obviously)
what the law says it is, i.e. it will or will not include same-sex marriage;
and that
will be the legal reality.
>>
>>
>
thomas p.
"Puck Greenman" <dubh_...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:sj0og51r9k88udj0g...@4ax.com...
I would certainly object if it was made part of the legal definition, i.e.
two
classes of marriage were created. If people want to express their feeling
that they see a difference, that is their problem/right; just like some
people insist
that mixed race marriages are somehow evil. People have a right to their
beliefs irrational or not.
Ray Fischer
>>>> I didn't think you would be able to answer the question. Marriage is
>>>> whatever the law says it is. Same-sex marriage is, in fact, marriage in
>>>> those jurisdictions that allow it. Your opinion does not change that.
>>>
>>>I get to say such "marriages" are not equal because they AREN'T. Marriage
>>>is
>>>the union between a man and a woman.
>>
>> Because you say so?
>
>Reread the statement below for your answer.
That's no answer, moron. Sex is no requirement for marriage.
>>> Same sex "marriage" cannot be for the
>>>same reason two bolts or two nuts cannot unite.
>>
>> Gee, an argument against mixed-race marriage.
>
>Not even CLOSE.
You're a bigot and you don't even realize it.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:4b0ad22d$0$1660$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Chris <re...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>
>>>>>>>Fact: Evolution says that the Sun was created
>>>>>>> before the Earth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fact: The Bible says that the Earth was created
>>>>>>> before the Sun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Bible was wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>So the sun was there, but it just wasn't turned on yet?
>>>>
>>>> If the sun didn't exist before the Earth and planets then what did the
>>>> Earth and planets orbit around?
>>>
>>>Who said they were orbiting?
>>
>> There isn't any other stable configuration.
>
>Define what you mean by "stable".
Look in a dictionary, moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
thomas p.
There is also the fact that abortion is not opposed by the majority of
Americans. Only 20% thought it
should always be illegal according to a Gallup poll taken in 2005. In poll
after poll the majority agree that
it should be legal, with some wanting restrictions of various kinds and
others wanting to be completely
unrestricted.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abopoll05.htm