Robert Spencer och Nicolai Sennels on Islam

[M Winther]

"Robert Spencer och Nicolai Sennels on Islam."
Robert Spencer from Jihad Watch interviews Danish psychologist
Nicolai Sennels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasKz9axKrc

/T.

[abelard]

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:46:05 +0100, "M Winther" <ml...@swipnet.se>
wrote:

well...i've watched half of it...maybe i'll find time for the
rest later...

the model sennel uses is ok if you're dealing with vegetarians
or those already reasonably socialised...
but *it doesn't work* with spoiled children/sociopaths/psychopaths...

so far he seems to miss the overwhelming critical factor...

violence works for the violent, or they'd stop using violence...it is
working for the jihadists etc...
obarmy is a weakling and that/his behaviour plays right into their
hands...
just as letting murderers out of prison isn't a pragmatic approach....

the only way to treat the violent is to stop violence working for them


ps, the sound level is very low...as with many youtube productions...
anyone know why?

[abelard]

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:46:05 +0100, "M Winther" <ml...@swipnet.se>
wrote:

[the film is an attempt to psychoanalyse the mental dynamic
of jihadism...*most* of it is pretty sound....]


having finally listened to the second half...

sennels commits a major logical error at the end...

the west is eventually forced to confront hitler or
jihadi islam in the end....by virtue pf their actions...

he is trying to argue that the *twisted* logic of islam
(victimology...and he correctly links it to socialist
propaganda) is somehow untenable...
unfortunately it is not...if you buy into victimology...

socialism has killed tens of million on the basis of very
analogous 'reasoning' to that of jihadi islam...

but in reality, civilised communities *are* victimised by
socialism/jihadism...

the only difference is between the reality of jihadi/socialist
victimisation...and the false perception of victimisation
among socialists/jihadists...
thus the mental state is similar in the two cases...but the
jihadis and socialists are deranged...

that still leaves us with the problem of stopping their mayhem
and various aggression

but the film is discussion between two neece over-civilised people...

i saw recently in a film...a canadian being told to stand
up for himself and confront a person who was troubling
him...
his response was....'but i'm a canadian'

sennels seems to have a slice of that problem :-)