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Robert Henderson

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:20:32 AM11/16/09
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Letter to the Telegraph

Sir,

Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?


Yours sincerely,


Robert Henderson
--
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Robert Henderson
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

abelard

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:45:22 AM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0000, Robert Henderson
<phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Letter to the Telegraph
>
>Sir,
>
>Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?

because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
on and is ever changing....
bit like you do...

as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'

regards

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Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:49:14 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

I have posted my squirrel theory many times on various Ng’s over a
period of years. Perhaps some may recall my doing so?

Maybe, at last people are beginning to see, that what has happened to
the native red squirrel, is happening to the indigenous white
British?

Message has been deleted

abelard

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:59:30 AM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:54:06 -0500, her...@comic.stp wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:45:22 +0100, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>
>wrote:


>
>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0000, Robert Henderson
>><phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Letter to the Telegraph
>>>
>>>Sir,
>>>
>>>Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>>>as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>>>You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>>>known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>>>such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>>>as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>>
>>because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
>> on and is ever changing....
>>bit like you do...
>>
>>as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
>> the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
>> be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'

>Will you still thank that way when they come for you & family?

why on earth would that alter the facts

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:17:06 AM11/16/09
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On 2009-11-16, Jon° <ray...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Letter to the Telegraph
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>> as bad and the latter as a  wonderfully enriching event?
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Robert Henderson
>> --
>> --
>> Robert Henderson
>> Personal website:http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
> I have posted my squirrel theory many times on various Ng?s over a

> period of years. Perhaps some may recall my doing so?

Unlikely, Cretin.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
AADP's 'left-wing Israeli intellectual'
'The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones
who attacked us in America on September the 11th'
(George W. Bush, 12 July 2007)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:49:04 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 2:17 pm, "yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)"
<yitz...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2009-11-16, Jon° <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> Letter to the Telegraph
>
> >> Sir,
>
> >> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
> >> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
> >> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
> >> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
> >> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
> >> as bad and the latter as a  wonderfully enriching event?
>
> >> Yours sincerely,
>
> >> Robert Henderson
> >> --
> >> --
> >> Robert Henderson
> >> Personal website:http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
> > I have posted my squirrel theory many times on various Ng?s  over a
> > period of years.  Perhaps some may recall my doing so?
>
> Unlikely, Cretin.

> Shitzhak Isaac Goldstein
> "Arsehole of the net"

Well you Zionist Yids managed to swamp Palestine when you invaded it
after WW2. Not only that, you had learnt a lot from the Nazis whom
many of you worked for as Kapos in Nazi concentration
camps...................................That is one reason why you are
so good at committing atrocities on woman and children in Palestine
now.


nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:49:16 AM11/16/09
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do red and grey squirrels cross breed ?

Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:52:10 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 2:49 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
> do red and grey squirrels cross breed ?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No only the queer ones have sex with either colour, so if you were a
squirrel, you would be OK.

Mr.Sandman

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:12:48 AM11/16/09
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Robert Henderson wrote:
> Letter to the Telegraph
>
> Sir,
>
> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> Robert Henderson

The poster seems to have forgotten or doesn't know that the British have
spread themselves all over the world. Millions of black and brown men
now speak English as their native language. How did such a thing
happened? My guess is that Britain will never be the permanent home of
people who came from the tropics. Much too cool and damp for that.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:15:20 AM11/16/09
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cite ?

Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:19:41 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 3:15 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
> cite ?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You were noticed walking a squirrel on Hampstead, it was too dark to
tell whether it was red or grey.

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:23:44 AM11/16/09
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On 2009-11-16, Jon° <ray...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 3:15 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
><michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 3:52 pm, Jon° <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 16, 2:49 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
>>
>> > <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > On Nov 16, 2:49 pm, Jon° <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Letter to the Telegraph
>>
>> > > > > Sir,
>>
>> > > > > Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>> > > > > as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>> > > > > You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>> > > > > known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>> > > > > such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>> > > > > as bad and the latter as a  wonderfully enriching event?
>>
>> > > > > Yours sincerely,
>>
>> > > > > Robert Henderson
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Robert Henderson
>> > > > > Personal website:http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>>
>> > > > I have posted my squirrel theory many times on various Ng?s  over a

>> > > > period of years.  Perhaps some may recall my doing so?
>>
>> > > > Maybe, at last people are beginning to see, that  what has happened to
>> > > > the native red squirrel, is happening to the indigenous white
>> > > > British?
>>
>> > > do red and grey squirrels cross breed ?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > No only the queer ones have sex with either colour, so if you were a
>> > squirrel, you would be OK.
>>
>> cite ?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You were noticed walking a squirrel on Hampstead, it was too dark to
> tell whether it was red or grey.

Translation: 'Jon°' doesn't have a cite, because he made the whole thing
up.

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:36:20 AM11/16/09
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Robert Henderson wrote:
> Letter to the Telegraph
>
> Sir,
>
> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?

Some people don't care. Many who used to post to this newsgroup don't
care. For any argument to stand up against these people, one has to come
up with a rock solid reason why it matters that the English do not die
out. The argument that any people have a natural right to defend their
culture does not apply to the English according to them, because the
'English' as a ethnic type does not exist. You won't change their minsd
- they are even prepared to fight alongside Muslims against you.
They would have to be defeated either in law (by electing a 'racist'
party), or in a fight in the streets. Personally I think the latter is
now more likely.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:36:32 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 4:23 pm, "yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)"
<yitz...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I agree...I have never been to Hampstead ;-)

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:38:05 AM11/16/09
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I'm curious, what year did this England that you speak of....start ?

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:38:45 AM11/16/09
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abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0000, Robert Henderson
> <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Letter to the Telegraph
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>
> because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
> on and is ever changing....
> bit like you do...
>
> as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
> the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
> be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'

And is there a valid argument that one ecosystem is better than another?
I believe there is, whether it's English people or Japanese Knotweed or
whatever. Try looking at the state of the land in the former Soviet
Union and see if you think that some ecosystems are better than another.

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:39:55 AM11/16/09
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yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic) wrote:
> On 2009-11-16, Jon° <ray...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> Letter to the Telegraph
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>>> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>>> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>>> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>>> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>>> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>>>
>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>
>>> Robert Henderson
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Robert Henderson
>>> Personal website:http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>> I have posted my squirrel theory many times on various Ng?s over a
>> period of years. Perhaps some may recall my doing so?
>
> Unlikely, Cretin.

I would expect that you would fight for Israel to retain it's nature (as
a Jewish state). Would you not allow this right for others?

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:40:43 AM11/16/09
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So...British spreading themselves all over the world is wrong, therefore
mass immigration into Britain is right?

Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:42:33 AM11/16/09
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I'm getting to like you more and more.

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:43:15 AM11/16/09
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Don't try those disingenuous arguments with me - I'm not interested
because you simply will not be consistent.

Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:47:36 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 3:36 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
> I agree...I have never been to Hampstead ;-)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You would wouldn’t you?

Shitsack prefers Clapham Common I am told, he can get away with murder
there as not many Zionist Yids venture far into South London…….He is
therefore able to display himself better in the cottages there.

Perhaps you have ventured this way yourself sunshine?

Jon°

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:48:57 AM11/16/09
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> a Jewish state). Would you not allow this right for others?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

He would rather fight the Palestinian kids there then a properly
trained fighting force.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:49:23 AM11/16/09
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right back at you sista!

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:49:56 AM11/16/09
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nope....now back to those squirrels....cite?

Jon°

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On Nov 16, 3:49 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
> right back at you sista!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

What a stupid inadequate reply.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:53:41 AM11/16/09
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I agree.....what year did this England that you speak of....start ?

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:21:45 AM11/16/09
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How about 802AD or 1066, whatever your point of view?

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:37:09 AM11/16/09
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my point of view is neither, there is no black and white, only shades
of grey, but I am going to humour you.....;-)

you would need an interpreter just to have a conversation with these
other 'English' people

Maria

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:38:33 AM11/16/09
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So what is your point of view? That 'England' does not exist at all?


>
> you would need an interpreter just to have a conversation with these
> other 'English' people

Sorry...not sure who you are referring to.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:49:55 AM11/16/09
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my point of view is that countries are irrelevant, the same land
existed before a particular label was applied to it

>
> > you would need an interpreter just to have a conversation with these
> > other 'English' people
>
> Sorry...not sure who you are referring to.

you and another English person from 802 or 1066

DVH

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:57:26 PM11/16/09
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"nick 'little england' griffin" <michael...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ddebc285-70d5-4ea0...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

> my point of view is that countries are irrelevant, the same land
> existed before a particular label was applied to it

Who decides who lives on a particularly desirable land, in your John Lennon
world?


William Black

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her...@comic.stp wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:45:22 +0100, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0000, Robert Henderson
>> <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Letter to the Telegraph
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>>> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>>> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>>> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>>> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>>> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>> because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
>> on and is ever changing....
>> bit like you do...
>>
>> as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
>> the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
>> be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'
>>
>> regards
>
> Will you still thank that way when they come for you & family?

Who is 'they' in this case?


--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.

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abelard

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:47:02 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:38:45 +0000, Maria
<falli...@holeinshoe.co.uk> wrote:

>abelard wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0000, Robert Henderson
>> <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Letter to the Telegraph
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>>> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>>> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>>> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>>> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>>> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>>
>> because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
>> on and is ever changing....
>> bit like you do...
>>
>> as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
>> the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
>> be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'
>
>And is there a valid argument that one ecosystem is better than another?

not that i can see

>I believe there is, whether it's English people or Japanese Knotweed or
>whatever. Try looking at the state of the land in the former Soviet
>Union and see if you think that some ecosystems are better than another.

it certainly not better from my pov...but i'm prejudiced!

from the pov of knotweed i expect i'd be cussing all those farmers
spreading herbicides, planting potatoes while generally ruining my
environment and happiness

regards

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abelard

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:52:42 PM11/16/09
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this is entirely the wrong approach maria....

you merely need to decide it is what you want....
you don't need a reason for preferring radishes to cockles
beyond your own preference

nick 'little england' griffin

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On Nov 16, 6:57 pm, "DVH" <d...@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:
> "nick 'little england' griffin" <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:ddebc285-70d5-4ea0...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

>
> > my point of view is that countries are irrelevant, the same land
> > existed before a particular label was applied to it
>
> Who decides who lives on a particularly desirable land, in your John Lennon
> world?

could be london....could be brussels

DVH

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:33:18 PM11/16/09
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"nick 'little england' griffin" <michael...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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So you reserve the right to select who you have in your front room but
believe nobody else should have that right.


nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:40:21 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 8:33 pm, "DVH" <d...@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:
> "nick 'little england' griffin" <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:cb20eed3-6ad2-4791...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 16, 6:57 pm, "DVH" <d...@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:
>
> > "nick 'little england' griffin" <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:ddebc285-70d5-4ea0...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > my point of view is that countries are irrelevant, the same land
> > > existed before a particular label was applied to it
>
> > Who decides who lives on a particularly desirable land, in your John
> > Lennon
> > world?
>
> > could be london....could be brussels
>
> So you reserve the right to select who you have in your front room but
> believe nobody else should have that right.

my front room is my business

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abelard

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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:49:56 -0800 (PST), "nick 'little england'
griffin" <michael...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Nov 16, 4:47�pm, Jon� <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 3:36�pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"

>> <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > On Nov 16, 4:23�pm, "yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)"
>>
>> > <yitz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > On 2009-11-16, Jon� <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Nov 16, 3:15�pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
>> > > ><michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > >> On Nov 16, 3:52�pm, Jon� <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > >> > On Nov 16, 2:49�pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
>>
>> > > >> > <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > >> > > On Nov 16, 2:49�pm, Jon� <rays...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > >> > > > On Nov 16, 1:20�pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
>> > > >> > > > wrote:

>> > > >> > > > > Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>> > > >> > > > > as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>> > > >> > > > > You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>> > > >> > > > > known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>> > > >> > > > > such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>> > > >> > > > > as bad and the latter as a �wonderfully enriching event?

>> > > >> > > > I have posted my squirrel theory many times on various Ng?s �over a


>> > > >> > > > period of years. �Perhaps some may recall my doing so?
>>
>> > > >> > > > Maybe, at last people are beginning to see, that �what has happened to
>> > > >> > > > the native red squirrel, is happening to the indigenous white
>> > > >> > > > British?
>>
>> > > >> > > do red and grey squirrels cross breed ?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > >> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > > >> > No only the queer ones have sex with either colour, so if you were a
>> > > >> > squirrel, you would be OK.
>>
>> > > >> cite ?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > > > You were noticed walking a squirrel on Hampstead, it was too dark to
>> > > > tell whether it was red or grey.
>>
>> > > Translation: 'Jon�' doesn't have a cite, because he made the whole thing
>> > > up.

>> > > Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein


>> > > AADP's 'left-wing Israeli intellectual'
>> > > � � � � 'The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones
>> > > � � � � who attacked us in America on September the 11th'
>> > > � � � � (George W. Bush, 12 July 2007)
>> > > <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/> �
>>
>> > I agree...I have never been to Hampstead ;-)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> You would wouldn�t you?
>>
>> Shitsack prefers Clapham Common I am told, he can get away with murder
>> there as not many Zionist Yids �venture far into South London��.He is
>> therefore able to display himself better in the cottages there.
>>
>> Perhaps you have ventured this way yourself sunshine?
>
>nope....now back to those squirrels....cite?

be cautious, he's trying to groom you

William Black

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aracari wrote:
> 'William Black' wrote thus:

>
>> her...@comic.stp wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:45:22 +0100, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0000, Robert Henderson
>>>> <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Letter to the Telegraph
>>>>>
>>>>> Sir,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
>>>>> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
>>>>> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
>>>>> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
>>>>> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
>>>>> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>>>> because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
>>>> on and is ever changing....
>>>> bit like you do...
>>>>
>>>> as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
>>>> the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
>>>> be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>> Will you still thank that way when they come for you & family?
>> Who is 'they' in this case?
>
> He means "them", Willie.
>

That would be ungrammatical.

I'll be honest with you, I think these tales of the death of freedom in
this country are exaggerated.

I can't see them spending the millions, no billions, necessary to
process the information being generated by the various surveillance
systems they've put in place.

They already admit that the vast numbers of TV cameras about the place
aren't any good for anything but spotting people daft enough not to wear
a hoodie while going about their criminal business.

The number of people necessary to process the data they want the ISPs to
collect is vast, too vast for processing. The only real use it will
have will be to convict people they catch who are up to no good.

Robert Henderson

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:50:33 AM11/16/09
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In message <cam2g51qiptke0q74...@4ax.com>,
her...@comic.stp writes

>>because humans try to stop the stream of life as it flows
>> on and is ever changing....
>>bit like you do...
>>
>>as one of my biologist friends said in answer to complaints about
>> the ecosystems being under threat...'don't worry, there'll still
>> be an ecosystem, it'll just have changed'
>>
>>regards
>
>Will you still thank that way when they come for you & family?

Er...."Abelard" is a 1947 vintage valve computer in the Bonkers 9000
series. The only people likely to be coming for him are curators from
the Science Museum.... RH

Robert Henderson

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:51:17 AM11/16/09
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In message <lJSdnQs5q_2Z75zW...@bt.com>, Maria
<falli...@holeinshoe.co.uk> writes

>
>And is there a valid argument that one ecosystem is better than
>another? I believe there is, whether it's English people or Japanese
>Knotweed or whatever. Try looking at the state of the land in the
>former Soviet Union and see if you think that some ecosystems are
>better than another.

Excellent point, Maria... RH

DVH

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"nick 'little england' griffin" <michael...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5ed91c58-a6c1-4942...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

John Lennon must be spinning in his grave.


Alang

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:23:49 PM11/16/09
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Enemies of the state?

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:35:47 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 8:59 pm, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:49:56 -0800 (PST), "nick 'little england'
>
>
>
>
>
> web site atwww.abelard.org- news comment service, logic, economics

>  energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----
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William Black

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:52:38 PM11/16/09
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Well so far there's no evidence that anyone is using the organs of the
intelligence apparatus to spy on people involved in legitimate political
activity, to the extent that when a Muslim Labour MP interviewed a
terrorist (can't remember if he was convicted or not, but he was
certainly locked up tight) in prison a huge fuss was made when it was
discovered that his conversation had been recorded.

Therefore a reasonable defence against being spied on may well be being
involved in legitimate politics...

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abelard

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:51:21 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:15:15 +0000, aracari
<spamtrap@v�ilable.here.com> wrote:

>'William Black' wrote thus:

>


>>The number of people necessary to process the data they want the ISPs to
>>collect is vast, too vast for processing. The only real use it will
>>have will be to convict people they catch who are up to no good.
>

>A large part of it is not to process and analyse the data but to
>have it there for reference in case someone steps out of line.
>
>As an East German woman said recently in an interview:
>
> "if you bought a new printer or copier, it wasn't long before
> they turned up and demanded output samples. When asked why,
> they would tell you "we have to be able to track you down if
> necessary"."

there is always the option of expanding the number of spies and
political police to
1)process the data
2)soak up the inevitable ever growing unemployed

regards

--
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics

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Roger Dewhurst

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:51:36 PM11/16/09
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Robert Henderson wrote:
> Letter to the Telegraph
>
> Sir,
>
> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
> as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> Robert Henderson

Red squirrels are much nicer than grey squirrels ..................

Robert Henderson

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:17:07 AM11/17/09
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In message <lJSdnQg5q_3u7JzW...@bt.com>, Maria
<falli...@holeinshoe.co.uk> writes

>Robert Henderson wrote:
>> Letter to the Telegraph
>> Sir,
>> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species
>>such as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily
>>Telegraph You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien
>>human beings known as foreigners displacing the native English
>>population in places such as Leicester and London. Why is the former
>>invariably represented as bad and the latter as a wonderfully enriching event?
>
>Some people don't care. Many who used to post to this newsgroup don't
>care. For any argument to stand up against these people, one has to
>come up with a rock solid reason why it matters that the English do not
>die out. The argument that any people have a natural right to defend
>their culture does not apply to the English according to them, because
>the 'English' as a ethnic type does not exist. You won't change their
>minsd - they are even prepared to fight alongside Muslims against you.
>They would have to be defeated either in law (by electing a 'racist'
>party), or in a fight in the streets. Personally I think the latter is
>now more likely.


Quite so. Any serious political fracture is always settled by force. RH

Robert Henderson

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:27:23 AM11/17/09
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In message <SJmdnSL0PYCK4ZzW...@bt.com>, Maria
<falli...@holeinshoe.co.uk> writes

>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> What a stupid inadequate reply.
>> I agree.....what year did this England that you speak of....start ?
>
>How about 802AD or 1066, whatever your point of view?

Try the sixth century. Bede (born circa 670 AD) writing circa 720 AD
produced his Ecclesiastical History of the English. That being so, the
idea of the English must have been around for more than a century by the
time he was born. RH

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:59:24 AM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 7:27 am, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> In message <SJmdnSL0PYCK4ZzWnZ2dnUVZ7oVi4...@bt.com>, Maria
> <fallingd...@holeinshoe.co.uk> writes

make your mind up people.....you English can't even agree on the date
you started....

William Black

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:53:02 AM11/17/09
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abelard wrote:

> there is always the option of expanding the number of spies and
> political police to
> 1)process the data
> 2)soak up the inevitable ever growing unemployed

The quality of staff necessary tend not to be your average dole candidate.

Look at the GCHQ job ads for the quality of people they want for doing
this stuff.

http://www.gchq.gov.uk/careers/index.html

It's all graduates in proper subjects from proper universities.

They don't hire someone with a degree in Underwater Basket Weaving from
Polly Wollie Colly

Lou Ravi

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:25:35 PM11/17/09
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Roger Dewhurst wrote:

> Red squirrels are much nicer than grey squirrels ..................

Nah, too small, there's a lot more meat on the grey ones.


HardySpicer

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:11:00 PM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 2:20 am, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Letter to the Telegraph
>
> Sir,
>
> Would someone please explain the difference between alien species such
> as the grey squirrel displacing the native red squirrel (Daily Telegraph
> You're not from these parts are you? 16 November) and alien human beings
> known as foreigners displacing the native English population in places
> such as Leicester and London. Why is the former invariably represented
> as bad and the latter as a  wonderfully enriching event?
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Robert Henderson
> --

> --
> Robert Henderson
> Personal website:http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

Signed Robert Henderson (Mrs). SCS Troll.

White Spirit

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:46:58 PM11/17/09
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nick 'little england' griffin wrote:

> On Nov 16, 5:21 pm, Maria <fallingd...@holeinshoe.co.uk> wrote:

>> nick 'little england' griffin wrote:

>>> I agree.....what year did this England that you speak of....start ?

>> How about 802AD or 1066, whatever your point of view?

How about c.450AD.

> my point of view is neither, there is no black and white, only shades
> of grey, but I am going to humour you.....;-)

All shades are equal, but some are more equal than others...

> you would need an interpreter just to have a conversation with these
> other 'English' people

I wouldn't need an interpreter.


nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:08:46 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 12:46 am, White Spirit <wspi...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
> nick 'little england' griffin wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16, 5:21 pm, Maria <fallingd...@holeinshoe.co.uk> wrote:
> >> nick 'little england' griffin wrote:
> >>> I agree.....what year did this England that you speak of....start ?
> >> How about 802AD or 1066, whatever your point of view?
>
> How about c.450AD.
>

make your minds up

> > my point of view is neither, there is no black and white, only shades
> > of grey, but I am going to humour you.....;-)
>
> All shades are equal, but some are more equal than others...
>

no need to denigrate yourself

> > you would need an interpreter just to have a conversation with these
> > other 'English' people
>
> I wouldn't need an interpreter.

because you are a cunning linguist ?

White Spirit

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Nov 18, 2009, 6:48:14 AM11/18/09
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I know Old English, Old Saxon, Gothic, and Old Norse and can reliably
translate Old Frisian as well.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:25:51 AM11/18/09
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but you would be fucked in a conversation....thats because the English
then are not the English now and not the English in 100 years...

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:44:06 AM11/18/09
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Prove it.

Y.

--

White Spirit

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:53:33 AM11/18/09
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yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic) wrote:

>> I know Old English, Old Saxon, Gothic, and Old Norse and can reliably
>> translate Old Frisian as well.

> Prove it.

For hwi scyle ic tacnian ��t ic onderstande �a reorda �e ic ymb spr�c?

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:18:13 AM11/18/09
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On 2009-11-18, White Spirit <wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
> yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic) wrote:
>
>>> I know Old English, Old Saxon, Gothic, and Old Norse and can reliably
>>> translate Old Frisian as well.
>
>> Prove it.
>
> For hwi scyle ic tacnian þæt ic onderstande þa reorda þe ic ymb spræc?

Which means?

White Spirit

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:31:44 AM11/18/09
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yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic) wrote:

> On 2009-11-18, White Spirit <wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:

>> yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic) wrote:

>>>> I know Old English, Old Saxon, Gothic, and Old Norse and can reliably
>>>> translate Old Frisian as well.

>>> Prove it.

>> For hwi scyle ic tacnian þæt ic onderstande þa reorda þe ic ymb spræc?

> Which means?

'For' is a preposition, like Modern English 'for'.

'Hwi' is the instrumental form of the indefinite pronoun 'hwa' ('hwa' is
cognate with Modern English 'who' and 'hwi' with Modern English 'why').

'scyle' is the first person singular present subjunctive conjugation of
the verb 'sculan', a preterite-present verb whose cognate is Modern
English 'shall'.

'ic' is the first person singular personal pronoun cognate with Modern
English 'I'.

'Tacnian' is a verb whose infinite form is given above meaning 'show,
prove, demonstrate'. A cognate form is Modern English 'betoken'.

'þæt' is a relative pronoun cognate with Modern English 'that'.

'onderstande' is the first person singular present indicative and
subjunctive form of the verb 'onderstandan', meaning to understand (the
Modern English cognate).

'þa' is the accusative plural definite pronoun meaning 'the'. 'Reord'
is a strong feminine noun meaning language (the accusative plural form
is 'reorda').

'þe' is also a relative pronoun. Unlike 'þæt', it is not used to link
sentence clauses.

'ymb' is an adverb meaning 'by, about, concerning'.

'spræc' is the first person preterite indicative singular conjugation of
the verb 'sprecan' meaning 'to speak'.


In other words, 'Why should I prove that I understand the languages
about which I spoke?'

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:52:06 AM11/18/09
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Fair enough: I'll concede that, although there's no way to be sure that you
didn't google that, or asked someone.

> In other words, 'Why should I prove that I understand the languages
> about which I spoke?'

That's what happens when you make claims.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:47:35 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 2:53 pm, White Spirit <wspi...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
> yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic) wrote:
>
> >> I know Old English, Old Saxon, Gothic, and Old Norse and can reliably
> >> translate Old Frisian as well.
> > Prove it.
>
> For hwi scyle ic tacnian þæt ic onderstande þa reorda þe ic ymb spræc?

bloody foreigners...doesn't anyone speak English round here ?

White Spirit

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:07:12 AM11/18/09
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nick 'little england' griffin wrote:

> bloody foreigners...doesn't anyone speak English round here ?

Gea, ic wel sprece on englisc.

nick 'little england' griffin

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:11:12 AM11/18/09
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an early form of texting !

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