OilGate: 0baMa0's Cover-up Is Worse Than The Slick
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
small group of journalists with him on a trip he was taking through
the gulf on a Coast Guard vessel. But at about 10 p.m. on the evening
before the trip, someone from the Department of Homeland Security’s
legislative affairs office called the senator’s office to tell them
that no journalists would be allowed.
“No further elaboration” was given...
“We were questioned extensively. Who was on the aircraft? Who did they
work for? The minute we mentioned media, the answer was: ‘Not
allowed.’”
From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
operate in near-total secrecy.
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/06/the-coverup-is-worse-than-the-slick.html
Joe Cool
> Last week, Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, tried to bring a
> small group of journalists with him on a trip he was taking through
> the gulf on a Coast Guard vessel. But at about 10 p.m. on the evening
> before the trip, someone from the Department of Homeland Security’s
> legislative affairs office called the senator’s office to tell them
> that no journalists would be allowed.
>
> “No further elaboration” was given...
>
> “We were questioned extensively. Who was on the aircraft? Who did they
> work for? The minute we mentioned media, the answer was: ‘Not
> allowed.’”
>
> From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> operate in near-total secrecy.
"near-total secrecy"?!?!?!?!? You have GOT to be kidding me.
Just what planet do you live on????
>
> http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/06/the-coverup-is-worse-th...
dave
>
> From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> operate in near-total secrecy.
>
> http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/06/the-coverup-is-worse-than-the-slick.html
I suspect there is no avenue that you'd approve.
Old Orleans
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Cheney's culture of corruption & ool deregs:
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RHF
What Obama Cover-Up ? BHO has been mugging
it for the TV Cameras 24/7 recently Blaming BP
Blaming Bush/Cheney and Blaming Americans
for Driving Cars and using Oil.
The Real Story is the INACTION of the Obama
Administration in dealing with BP and really
taking charge and fixing the problem.
Prez Obama is the biggest recent recipient of
BP's Cash for Favors in recent years.
The Obama Regime is filled with former BP
workers and lobbyists who are me-tooing all
of BP's actions. {Rubber Stamp Government}
This is now the 55th Day of the 21st Centuries
Greatest Ecological Disaster and while Prez Obama
says that "He Is In-Charge" Prez Obama Does Nothing
and BP is running the show and the Ecological Disaster
grows daily while Prez Obama does nothing but
Lip-Sync to the Teleprompter and Pose for the
TV Cameras. . .
Prez Obama 'jaw-bones' while the Gulf of Mexico
and the Life within it is Chemically Burned from
the Pollution oozing from the BP Oil Spill :
That's Leadership Failure by Prez Obama
That's Executive Failure by Prez Obama
That's Presidential Failure by Prez Obama
The Obama Regime : Failure after Failure after Failure
BIG GOVERNMENT INACTION ON A SCALE
SOME BIG - It's Criminal and the Government
Officials that are allowing it to happen and continue
should be hauled before the US Congress to
testify; and Tried in the Courts sent to Jail
for their Crimes against the Environment and the
American People.
thank you very much - prez obama for the
continuing story of big government's failure ~ RHF
.
BDK
@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, joeco...@live.com says...
> On Jun 13, 5:48Â pm, â=3F=3FbaMaâ=3F=3F Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Last week, Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, tried to bring a
> > small group of journalists with him on a trip he was taking through
> > the gulf on a Coast Guard vessel. But at about 10 p.m. on the evening
> > legislative affairs office called the senatorâ€=3Fs office to tell them
> > that no journalists would be allowed.
> >
> >
> > “We were questioned extensively. Who was on the aircraft? Who did they
> > work for? The minute we mentioned media, the answer was: â€=3FNot
> > allowed.â€=3Fâ€
> > From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> > operate in near-total secrecy.
>
> "near-total secrecy"?!?!?!?!? You have GOT to be kidding me.
>
> Just what planet do you live on????
>
> >
> > http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/06/the-coverup-is-worse-th...
>
>
He lives on a magical world, with With tangerine trees and marmalade
skies. His girl has kaleidoscope eyes.
Bill Shatner is his favorite singer.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7258896287489458266#
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user
> From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> operate in near-total secrecy.
"that's what we wanted: the end of government"
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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
seems like a never-ending mess. But sometimes journalists find it
difficult to get to the scene to do their jobs. Many reporters have
been denied access to public areas by BP contractors and local law
enforcement, prompting allegations that the oil giant is trying to
control the story. BP denies it.
And at a recent news conference, national incident commander Thad
Allen insisted that he's told BP to give journalists access to safe
and secure areas. In a piece for Mother Jones, reporter Mac McClelland
wrote that she was stymied at every turn by Jefferson Parish sheriff's
deputies brought it to supplement the local police. Deputies, she
reports, that were following the orders of BP.
[...]
http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=127836130
Walter Harding
I believe, as of this writing, nearly two months after the explosion,
Obama STILL hasn't meet with the President of BP.
Walter Harding
> In article <e0193078-af75-4a2d-8d74-f587fe33ab97
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 5:48Â pm, â=3F=3FbaMaâ=3F=3F Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Last week, Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, tried to bring a
> > > small group of journalists with him on a trip he was taking through
> > > the gulf on a Coast Guard vessel. But at about 10 p.m. on the evening
> > > before the trip, someone from the Department of Homeland Securityâ¤=3Fs
> > > legislative affairs office called the senatorâ¤=3Fs office to tell them
> > > that no journalists would be allowed.
>
>
> > > ⤽We were questioned extensively. Who was on the aircraft? Who did they
> > > work for? The minute we mentioned media, the answer was: â¤=3FNot
> > > allowed.â¤=3Fâ¤
>
> > > From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> > > operate in near-total secrecy.
>
> > "near-total secrecy"?!?!?!?!? You have GOT to be kidding me.
>
> > Just what planet do you live on????
>
> > >http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/06/the-coverup-is-worse-th...
>
> He lives on a magical world, with With tangerine trees and marmalade
> skies. His girl has kaleidoscope eyes.
>
> Bill Shatner is his favorite singer.
McCartney is obama's favorite
bpnjensen
Nor has he any intention of doing it - there is not much use in it.
The pres. of BP does not call the shots - Hayward pretty much does all
of it.
BDK
619603...@q39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, gopart...@gmail.com
says...
> On Jun 14, 12:10 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > In article <e0193078-af75-4a2d-8d74-f587fe33ab97
> > @w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, joecool1...@live.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 13, 5:48Â pm, â=3F=3FbaMaâ=3F=3F Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Last week, Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, tried to bring a
> > > > small group of journalists with him on a trip he was taking through
> > > > the gulf on a Coast Guard vessel. But at about 10 p.m. on the evening
> > > > legislative affairs office called the senatorâ=3F=3Fs office to tell them
> > > > that no journalists would be allowed.
> >
> >
> > > > â=3F=3FWe were questioned extensively. Who was on the aircraft? Who did they
> > > > work for? The minute we mentioned media, the answer was: â=3F=3FNot
> > > > allowed.â=3F=3Fâ=3F
> >
> > > > From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> > > > operate in near-total secrecy.
> >
> > > "near-total secrecy"?!?!?!?!? You have GOT to be kidding me.
> >
> > > Just what planet do you live on????
> >
> > > >http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/06/the-coverup-is-worse-th...
> >
> > He lives on a magical world, with With tangerine trees and marmalade
> > skies. His girl has kaleidoscope eyes.
> >
> > Bill Shatner is his favorite singer.
>
> McCartney is obama's favorite
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvorqcgcdtw
>
Every time I see Paul now, I think of the Angela Lansbury jokes.
Walter Harding
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:52:55 -0700 (PDT), Walter Harding
>
> <gopartyani...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I believe, as of this writing, nearly two months after the explosion,
> >Obama STILL hasn't meet with the President of BP.
>
>
> It's the other way around.....
Ummmmmm....
No, it's not....
RHF
> On Jun 14, 4:52 pm, Walter Harding <gopartyani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 3:20 pm, Joe Cool <joecool1...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 13, 5:48 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Last week, Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, tried to bring a
> > > > small group of journalists with him on a trip he was taking through
> > > > the gulf on a Coast Guard vessel. But at about 10 p.m. on the evening
> > > > before the trip, someone from the Department of Homeland Security’s
> > > > legislative affairs office called the senator’s office to tell them
> > > > that no journalists would be allowed.
>
> > > > “No further elaboration” was given...
>
> > > > “We were questioned extensively. Who was on the aircraft? Who did they
> > > > work for? The minute we mentioned media, the answer was: ‘Not
> > > > allowed.’”
>
> > > > From the start, the administration has seemed intent on allowing BP to
> > > > operate in near-total secrecy.
>
> > > "near-total secrecy"?!?!?!?!? You have GOT to be kidding me.
>
> > > Just what planet do you live on????
>
> > I believe, as of this writing, nearly two months after the explosion,
> > Obama STILL hasn't meet with the President of BP.
>
- The pres. of BP does not call the shots
- Hayward pretty much does all of it.
Clearly after 56 Days Prez Obama Ain't Calling
the Shots Either except to Lip Sync to the
dave
>
> And at a recent news conference, national incident commander Thad
> Allen insisted that he's told BP to give journalists access to safe
> and secure areas. In a piece for Mother Jones, reporter Mac McClelland
> wrote that she was stymied at every turn by Jefferson Parish sheriff's
> deputies brought it to supplement the local police. Deputies, she
> reports, that were following the orders of BP.
>
> [...]
> http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=127836130
You are a fascist. Why do you object to fascism?
dave
>
> I believe, as of this writing, nearly two months after the explosion,
> Obama STILL hasn't meet with the President of BP.
Herbert Herbert Bush still hasn't met with the President of Exxon. So what?
RHF
> Walter Harding wrote:
>
> > I believe, as of this writing, nearly two months after the explosion,
> > Obama STILL hasn't meet with the President of BP.
- Herbert Herbert Bush still hasn't met
- with the President of Exxon. So what?
Dave get the name straight and spell it right
George "H" Walker Bush
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Bush_%28senior%29
George Herbert Walker Bush
Dave -fyi- The Great Obama Oil Spill of 2010
is now estimated to be about four times [4X] bigger
than the Exon Valdez Oil Spill in the Gulf of Alaska.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exon_Valdez_oil_spill
that's what ~ RHF
Dave today is the 15 June 2010 and it is Day # 57
of the 21st Centuries Greatest Ecological Disaster.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/aaa0eebe8116c7d0
-aka- The Great Obama Oil Spill of 2010
.
bp, bp, prez obama's horn goes bp !
.
Walter Harding
Yes, he does. He's doing so this week.
> there is not much use in it.>
One can only marvel at how disconnected from reality the left has
become.
> The pres. of BP does not call the shots - Hayward pretty much does all
> of it.
Obama hasn't met with Tony Hayward, either.
bpnjensen
>
> - Show quoted text -
And what would "Drill Here Drill Now Drill Baby Drill Keep on Drillin"
McCain/Palin have done?
Walter Harding
First would be to allow drilling in shallow water and on land, where
it's far safer. We didn't see drilling accidents like this happen is
Alaska when Governor Palin was in charge.
Next, President Palin wouldn't have filled the Department of Interior
with incompetent, corrupt fools like Obama did. McCain/Palin would
have made damned certain that the MMS was staffed with people who knew
what the Hell they were doing, instead of the
politically connected, corrupt seat warmers we are currently saddled
with. McCain/Palin's people would have grilled BP endlessly, demanding
detailed instructions on the plans. McCain/Palin's people would know
the actual risks, and would never have used the Obama rubber stamp.
McCain/Palin's people would have also demanded to see a detailed
account of their plans if the oil leaked.
You know, their jobs.
The same job that was done under President Bush.
The same job that was done under President Clinton.
The same job that was done under President Bush.
The same job that was done under President Reagan.
The same job that was done under President Carter.
The same job that was done under President Ford.
The same job that was done under President Nixon.
We have to go all the way back to the Johnson administration to find a
disastrous drilling leak. Nothing a fraction as bad as this, of
course.
WHAT OBAMA DID: Nominate BP for a federal safety award.
2. Under McCain/Palin, Homeland Security would have been properly
equited to handle the clean up, and to take over the oil rig if
neccessary.
There would have been none of this "we don't have the tools." McCain/
Palin understands priorities.
WHAT DID OBAMA THINK WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT TO STOP
AND CLEAN UP THE DRILLING ACCIDENT:
$50,000,000,000.00 of taxpayers money to pay off the Unions.
3. On the day the oil rig sprung, McCain would have been on the air
within minutes, and on AF1 within the hour to New Orleans where he
would have and a long, very loud one way discussion with BP
executives. If the execs were lucky. If not, they would have gotten
Mama Grizzly Palin.
WHAT OBAMA DID: Cracked wise at a Barbara Boxer fund raiser.
4. If McCain/Palin's Secretary of the Interior was stupid enough to
go on vacation on the same day as Obama's SOI was, he or she would
have been greeted at the Grand Cayon with a dozen members of the Navy
Seals who would have "escorted" him back to his job.
WHAT OBAMA'S SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR DID: Sent back a 3D post card
to the President of the Grand Canyon, with the inscription; "Having a
wonderful time - glad your not here! XXXOOO Kenny"
5. Climbed onto the rig about six hours before it was, strictly
speaking, safe to do so. McCain then would have long discussion with
the head of the rig. Followed by a quick meeting with each worked,
where they would be asked if they were up to the job, and what they
needed to get the job done.
WHAT OBAMA DID: Quietly canceled the BP safety luncheon. Then golf.
6. McCain would have then returned to the oval office, where he would
have had the weak rig workers replaced, and given BP what it needed to
get the job done. Or else.
WHAT OBAMA DID: Sang "Hey Jude" with Paul McCartney,
7. McCain/Palin then would have gone on the air, to talk directly the
the American people. he would have called for a massive volunteer
effort
to help save our coasts. He would have gotten everything that floats
to use straw to clear as much oil as possible. There would be church
groups that would have filled bags with rocks and sacks, and private
citizens with trucks would have delivered them where needed. He would
have said something like "I'm not asking your to be a POW for your
country. I'm not asking you to die. I'm not even asking you bleed.
I'm asking you to sweat al little. To take an early vacation and work
for a week or so to help save America.
WHAT OBAMA DID - refuse help from England because they didn't fill out
the paperwork properly.
WHAT ELSE OBAMA DID - Refused help from 13 other countries who offered
to help.
Under McCain/Palin, the barriers would have been long completed, and
would be currently be strengthened to make them hurricane resistant.
Dissolvents would have been dropped by federal 130s, and much of the
oil would have been removed from the water.
McCain would have appealed to what's best in America. The nation
would have risen to the occasion.
WHAT OBAMA DID: Appeal to what's worst in America - finger poiting
and calls for borderline fascist demands. "We'll keep our boots on
BP's throat."
McCain would have lead.
bpnjensen
This is all a CROCK of supposition and demagoguery. In order to do
what you suggest, McCain would had to have had different info that
Obama had - since BP effectively lied (and continues to lie) to
everyone about the severity of the leak and accident. Palin never had
a problem in Alaska because she QUIT after two grueling years as
Governor Barbie. She and that prick Young from Alaska don't even
believe that a problem exists, or else they don't care. Who appointed
the incompetent oil-industry people in charge at the DoI? Here's a
hint - it wasn't Obama and it wasn't Clinton.
Having said that, Obama has blown it with this effort. He should have
fired Bush's appointees instantly; he should have gotten a real
national interest person instead of that shill Sleazar, and he should
REALLY have his boot on BPs worthless fucking throat until they choke
to death. He should start demanding a REAL 21st century energy policy
instead of the rickety obsolete 19th century shit we're stuck with,
and he should start dictating the terms by which we move forward
instead of watching the world pass us by.
Bruce Jensen
Walter Harding
Suppostion? Well, you asked what I thought McCain/Palin would do in
this situation. I made educated guesses based their past behavior.
Besides, yelling "this would never have happened if my guy had won" is
the consolation prize to the loser.
>...and demagoguery.
Everything I wrote about Obama actually happened. If it's demagoguery
to list what Obama's actions.... perhaps you guys elected a
demagogue.
> In order to do
> what you suggest, McCain would had to have had different info that
> Obama had - since BP effectively lied (and continues to lie) to
> everyone about the severity of the leak and accident.
Which is why it's essential to staff the MMS and the Department of the
Interior liberally with competent, intelligent people who've worked in
the oil field instead of socialist pol-sci political appointees, like
Obama did.
> a problem in Alaska because she QUIT after two grueling years as
> Governor Barbie.
She walked away because little fascists like yourself bombarded her
with dozens of nuisance lawsuits which made it impossible for her to
govern. (These stunts cost her a half million dollars and she spend
three out of every four weeks in court.) Only one lawsuit even went
to trial, a case Palin won handily. Sarah's children were attacked
and ridiculed on national television, and Democratic state
representative Mike Kernell of Memphis sent his weasle son David
Kernell to break into Gov. Palin's e-mail account.
So, instead of letting herself be a target, she changed the rules.
Good for her. She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be
essential in winning back the House. And Sarah will remind the
Republicans of her first hand experience in just how dirty you
cocksuckers fight. There's a whole new game coming up, and you're not
going to like how the New GOP plays the game.
> She and that prick Young from Alaska don't even
> believe that a problem exists, or else they don't care.>
There wasn't a problem when Bush or Palin were in charge.
> Who appointed
> the incompetent oil-industry people in charge at the DoI? >
President Obama nominated Ken Salazar.
Here's a
> hint - it wasn't Obama and it wasn't Clinton.
Yes it was. Obama nominated ken Salazar. Mr. Salazar never worked in
the Bush White House. Dirk Kempthorne and Gail Ann Norton were
Secretaries of the Interior under President Bush.
> Having said that, Obama has blown it with this effort. He should have
> fired Bush's appointees instantly;
He did. Obama carried over very few Bush appointees.
>.... he should have gotten a real
> national interest person instead of that shill Sleazar,>
Agreed....but Obama nominated the guy. Remember? Ken replaced Dirk
Kempthorne?
> and he should
> REALLY have his boot on BPs worthless fucking throat until they choke
> to death.
What he should have done was surround himself with competent workers.
What he should be doing now is cleaning up the Gulf. What he IS doing
now is looking around desperately to find someone to blame.
Hey, here's a fun fact - did you know that, according to the very
liberal PPP polling company, the people of Louisiana think that
Obama's handled the Gulf spill worse than Bush handled Katrina?
> He should start demanding a REAL 21st century energy policy
> instead of the rickety obsolete 19th century shit we're stuck with,>
Except that rickety, obsolete 19th centure shit we're stuck with has
the minor advantage of actually existing.
A year and a half ago, obama funded 1.2 trillion (including interest)
to a stimulus bill that was supposed to unleash a brave new world of
magic windmills.
Well, WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?
> and he should start dictating the terms by which we move forward
Really? "Dictating", say you? DICTATING?" Dictating, such as
Dictator Adolph Hitler?
> instead of watching the world pass us by.
Oh, yeah, because I forgot about Brazil's wind powered flying cars.
bpnjensen
> Everything I wrote about Obama actually happened. If it's demagoguery
> to list what Obama's actions.... perhaps you guys elected a
> demagogue.
Not the way your wrote it. You left out a LOT of details.
> > In order to do
> > what you suggest, McCain would had to have had different info that
> > Obama had - since BP effectively lied (and continues to lie) to
> > everyone about the severity of the leak and accident.
>
> Which is why it's essential to staff the MMS and the Department of the
> Interior liberally with competent, intelligent people who've worked in
> the oil field instead of socialist pol-sci political appointees, like
> Obama did.
Obama kept Bush's appointees. All oil field people.
> > a problem in Alaska because she QUIT after two grueling years as
> > Governor Barbie.
>
> She walked away because little fascists like yourself bombarded her
> with dozens of nuisance lawsuits which made it impossible for her to
> govern. (These stunts cost her a half million dollars and she spend
> three out of every four weeks in court.) Only one lawsuit even went
> to trial, a case Palin won handily. Sarah's children were attacked
> and ridiculed on national television, and Democratic state
> representative Mike Kernell of Memphis sent his weasle son David
> Kernell to break into Gov. Palin's e-mail account.
Bullshit. She talked herself into ridicule, and quit because she saw
millions to be made where politics of AK only earned her $100ks. IF
she was really worried about what people said about her, she would not
be where she is now.
> So, instead of letting herself be a target, she changed the rules.
Rules? Ha. There never have been any.
> Good for her. She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be
> essential in winning back the House.
Yes, a lot of low-IQ 'tards are listening to her empty-headed blather.
> And Sarah will remind the
> Republicans of her first hand experience in just how dirty you
> cocksuckers fight.
She taught us everything we know! Her and Limbaugh and Hannity and
Savage and Beck and Murdoch and every other crackpot who thinks with
his intestines instead of his brain.
>There's a whole new game coming up, and you're not
> going to like how the New GOP plays the game.
To quote Indiana Jones... "Nazis - I hate these guys." Nit since the
robber barons has there been a party so seriously skewed against the
powerless in favor of the plutocrats. I hate them already. They have
no shame, no conscience.
> > She and that prick Young from Alaska don't even
> > believe that a problem exists, or else they don't care.>
>
> There wasn't a problem when Bush or Palin were in charge.
According to Young, there isn't one now...as of June 4...
"This is not an environmental disaster, and I will say that again and
again."
We see where the brains in the Republican party aren't!
Check your history and news sources. BP's safety record - the legally
required precautions they were supposed to take to protect against
blowouts and spills - in Alaska is no better than the Gulf, and there
are public records and employee accounts to prove it. The accident
that happened in Louisiana was the result of years if not decades of
lack of oversight and foxes guarding the hen house. Bush's crystal-
meth sniffing sex-crazed MMS people saw to that.
> > Who appointed
> > the incompetent oil-industry people in charge at the DoI? >
>
> President Obama nominated Ken Salazar.
True, and I admit this - and I hated him from the start - BUT everyone
below him in MMS was a Bush appointee - previously overseen by Bush's
SOI. Neither Salazar nor Bush's previous DOIs had direct day-to-day
oversight of the oil industry -
MMS did, that's the where the continuity of habit lies, and that's
where the direct fault lies.
> Here's a
> > hint - it wasn't Obama and it wasn't Clinton.
>
> Yes it was. Obama nominated ken Salazar. Mr. Salazar never worked in
> the Bush White House. Dirk Kempthorne and Gail Ann Norton were
> Secretaries of the Interior under President Bush.
..and neither one of THEM fired the incompetent people in MMS either
- the direct oversight people.
> > Having said that, Obama has blown it with this effort. He should have
> > fired Bush's appointees instantly;
>
> He did. Obama carried over very few Bush appointees.
Except all of the MMS people.
> >.... he should have gotten a real
> > national interest person instead of that shill Sleazar,>
>
> Agreed....but Obama nominated the guy. ...
Yes - his biggest mistake.
Russell Ronco
> > Everything I wrote about Obama actually happened. If it's demagoguery
> > to list what Obama's actions.... perhaps you guys elected a
> > demagogue.
>
> Not the way your wrote it.
You have a problem with clear, honest, writing?
>You left out a LOT of details.
Agreed - one could fill a book with the endless parade of Obama's
arrogance and incompetence. In fact, I suspect those books are
currently being written.
> > > In order to do
> > > what you suggest, McCain would had to have had different info that
> > > Obama had - since BP effectively lied (and continues to lie) to
> > > everyone about the severity of the leak and accident.
>
> > Which is why it's essential to staff the MMS and the Department of the
> > Interior liberally with competent, intelligent people who've worked in
> > the oil field instead of socialist pol-sci political appointees, like
> > Obama did.
>
> Obama kept Bush's appointees. All oil field people.
Not the head of Department of the Interior, Sen Salar, as you
previously implied. Elizabeth Birnbaum was appointed by Clinton, and
held over by Bush, where she was promoted to Vice President for
Government Affairs and General Counsel for American Rivers.
Who, exactly, are you talking about?
> > > a problem in Alaska because she QUIT after two grueling years as
> > > Governor Barbie.
>
> > She walked away because little fascists like yourself bombarded her
> > with dozens of nuisance lawsuits which made it impossible for her to
> > govern. (These stunts cost her a half million dollars and she spend
> > three out of every four weeks in court.) Only one lawsuit even went
> > to trial, a case Palin won handily. Sarah's children were attacked
> > and ridiculed on national television, and Democratic state
> > representative Mike Kernell of Memphis sent his weasle son David
> > Kernell to break into Gov. Palin's e-mail account.
>
> Bullshit. She talked herself into ridicule, and quit because she saw
> millions to be made where politics of AK only earned her $100ks. IF
> she was really worried about what people said about her, she would not
> be where she is now.
Another fucking lefty who glories in being a bully. I hope you
enjoyed the stunts you guys pulled on Sarah - because it's getting
your time to be stuck in the wilderness.
> > So, instead of letting herself be a target, she changed the rules.
>
> Rules? Ha. There never have been any.
> > Good for her. She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be
> > essential in winning back the House.
>
> Yes, a lot of low-IQ 'tards are listening to her empty-headed blather.
We've had three and a half years of the Smart Guys running the
country. Get ready for a major change.
> > And Sarah will remind the
> > Republicans of her first hand experience in just how dirty you
> > cocksuckers fight.
>
> She taught us everything we know!
No. Saul Alinsky taught you guys everything you know. Now we have
that book.
> >There's a whole new game coming up, and you're not
> > going to like how the New GOP plays the game.
>
> To quote Indiana Jones... "Nazis - I hate these guys."
To quote Harrison Ford (board member of Conservation International
who waxed off his chest hair to raise awareness about deforestation)
when asked how he could consider himself an environmentalist when he
owned nine private planes: "I'll start waking everywhere when
everyone starts walking everywhere."
> Nit since the robber barons has there been a party so seriously skewed against the
> powerless
Who does it hurt when energy prices double? Not Harrison Ford. Not
Obama. The powerless who you exploit. Where is your concern for the
Louisiana fishermen who've lost their livelihoods because Obama didn't
want to do anything about the Gulf leak? The unemployed Obama's
simply ignored?
> in favor of the plutocrats.
Obama = Harvard Lawyer, multi-millionaire.
Hillary = Harvard Lawyer, multi-millionaire
Kennedy family = Harvard, billionaires
John Kerry = politically connected Yale billionaire
Pelosi = old money, politically connected multi-millioare.
Reid = multi-millionare.
Sarah Palin. Not wealthy. Not powerful. Rose up through the ranks
with no help from the estiblishment. Took on the big boys and won.
And you can't stand her because of it.
So, take your fucking Working Class Hero bullshit and shove it up your
ass, you big fraud.
> I hate them already. They have
> no shame, no conscience.
You guys flooded Sarah Palin with endless false lawsits, you've
attacked her children, David Letterman called her 14 year old daughter
a prostitute, her infant son has been ridiculed, you've tapped her e-
mail account, Letterman called her a crack whore - and you applauded
them.
You have no shame, and certainly no conscience.
> > > She and that prick Young from Alaska don't even
> > > believe that a problem exists, or else they don't care.>
>
> > There wasn't a problem when Bush or Palin were in charge.
>
> According to Young, there isn't one now...as of June 4...
>
> "This is not an environmental disaster, and I will say that again and
> again."
>
> We see where the brains in the Republican party aren't!
If this is an ecological disaster, why isn't Obama doing anything to
stop it?
> Check your history and news sources. BP's safety record - the legally
> required precautions they were supposed to take to protect against
> blowouts and spills - in Alaska is no better than the Gulf, and there
> are public records and employee accounts to prove it. The accident
> that happened in Louisiana was the result of years if not decades of
> lack of oversight and foxes guarding the hen house.
So then why didn't Obama do anything to reign them in?
> Bush's crystal-
> meth sniffing sex-crazed MMS people saw to that.
The problem is that the MMS that screwed up did so under Obama's
watch, and your desperate attempt to shift the blame to Bush becomes
more pathetic by the hour.
Woudl you like to see just how badly Obama's screwed the pooch? Would
you?
Click here, if you dare....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50GAACuKEQs&feature=player_embedded
> > > Who appointed
> > > the incompetent oil-industry people in charge at the DoI? >
>
> > President Obama nominated Ken Salazar.
>
> True, and I admit this - and I hated him from the start - BUT everyone
> below him in MMS was a Bush appointee - previously overseen by Bush's
> SOI. Neither Salazar nor Bush's previous DOIs had direct day-to-day
> oversight of the oil industry -
> MMS did, that's the where the continuity of habit lies, and that's
> where the direct fault lies.
>
> > > Here's a hint - it wasn't Obama and it wasn't Clinton.
>
> > Yes it was. Obama nominated Ken Salazar. Mr. Salazar never worked in
> > the Bush White House. Dirk Kempthorne and Gail Ann Norton were
> > Secretaries of the Interior under President Bush.
>
> ..and neither one of THEM fired the incompetent people in MMS either
> - the direct oversight people.
....because the MMS, under President Bush, didn't have grossly
incompetent people who simply took Barrack Petrolatum words. Under
President Bush, the direct oversight people, well, oversaw directly.
That's why we had eight happy years of relatively oil free Gulfs.
> > > Having said that, Obama has blown it with this effort. He should have
> > > fired Bush's appointees instantly;
>
> > He did. Obama carried over very few Bush appointees.
>
> Except all of the MMS people.
...... do you realize exactly how stupid the above statement is? Ken
is an Obama appointee, Liz is a Clinto girl... and yet you claim that
Obama thought this previously obscure branch of the fed was
untouchable?
> > >.... he should have gotten a real
> > > national interest person instead of that shill Sleazar,>
>
> > Agreed....but Obama nominated the guy. ...
>
> Yes - his biggest mistake.
Oh, noooooooooooooo - Obama has made thousands of "mistakes" which
were much stupider than that.
bpnjensen
> > > Everything I wrote about Obama actually happened. If it's demagoguery
> > > to list what Obama's actions.... perhaps you guys elected a
> > > demagogue.
>
> > Not the way your wrote it.
>
> You have a problem with clear, honest, writing?
Hardly. You can take a piece of information out of context and make
it appear 100 times worse than it really is, and he's a master at it.
You too.
> >You left out a LOT of details.
>
> Agreed - one could fill a book with the endless parade of Obama's
> arrogance and incompetence. In fact, I suspect those books are
> currently being written.
Blah blah blah. Keep on inventing stuff in your mind.
> > > > In order to do
> > > > what you suggest, McCain would had to have had different info that
> > > > Obama had - since BP effectively lied (and continues to lie) to
> > > > everyone about the severity of the leak and accident.
>
> > > Which is why it's essential to staff the MMS and the Department of the
> > > Interior liberally with competent, intelligent people who've worked in
> > > the oil field instead of socialist pol-sci political appointees, like
> > > Obama did.
>
> > Obama kept Bush's appointees. All oil field people.
>
> Not the head of Department of the Interior, Sen Salar, as you
> previously implied. Elizabeth Birnbaum was appointed by Clinton, and
> held over by Bush, where she was promoted to Vice President for
> Government Affairs and General Counsel for American Rivers.
>
> Who, exactly, are you talking about?
Try to pay attention and follow along.
The people of MMR. Bush appointees. Not Salazar, not Clinton
holdovers. Look it up.
> > > > a problem in Alaska because she QUIT after two grueling years as
> > > > Governor Barbie.
>
> > > She walked away because little fascists like yourself bombarded her
> > > with dozens of nuisance lawsuits which made it impossible for her to
> > > govern. (These stunts cost her a half million dollars and she spend
> > > three out of every four weeks in court.) Only one lawsuit even went
> > > to trial, a case Palin won handily. Sarah's children were attacked
> > > and ridiculed on national television, and Democratic state
> > > representative Mike Kernell of Memphis sent his weasle son David
> > > Kernell to break into Gov. Palin's e-mail account.
>
> > Bullshit. She talked herself into ridicule, and quit because she saw
> > millions to be made where politics of AK only earned her $100ks. IF
> > she was really worried about what people said about her, she would not
> > be where she is now.
>
> Another fucking lefty who glories in being a bully. I hope you
> enjoyed the stunts you guys pulled on Sarah - because it's getting
> your time to be stuck in the wilderness.
Is there a bigger bully than the neocons of the last 10 years? You
guys are tantamount to Boss Tweed's gang. Nothing anywhere compares
to Limbaugh.
> > > So, instead of letting herself be a target, she changed the rules.
>
> > Rules? Ha. There never have been any.
> > > Good for her. She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be
> > > essential in winning back the House.
>
> > Yes, a lot of low-IQ 'tards are listening to her empty-headed blather.
>
> We've had three and a half years of the Smart Guys running the
> country. Get ready for a major change.
Yeah, back to idiocy. I can hardly wait.
> > > And Sarah will remind the
> > > Republicans of her first hand experience in just how dirty you
> > > cocksuckers fight.
>
> > She taught us everything we know!
>
> No. Saul Alinsky taught you guys everything you know. Now we have
> that book.
Irrelevant shit.
> > >There's a whole new game coming up, and you're not
> > > going to like how the New GOP plays the game.
>
> > To quote Indiana Jones... "Nazis - I hate these guys."
>
> To quote Harrison Ford (board member of Conservation International
> who waxed off his chest hair to raise awareness about deforestation)
> when asked how he could consider himself an environmentalist when he
> owned nine private planes: "I'll start waking everywhere when
> everyone starts walking everywhere."
Irrelevant shit.
> > Nit since the robber barons has there been a party so seriously skewed against the
> > powerless
>
> Who does it hurt when energy prices double? Not Harrison Ford. Not
> Obama. The powerless who you exploit. Where is your concern for the
> Louisiana fishermen who've lost their livelihoods because Obama didn't
> want to do anything about the Gulf leak? The unemployed Obama's
> simply ignored?
I exploit the powerless? Me? You've got to be kidding. My
sympathies lie entirely with the Gulf Fishermen, and you know it damn
well. Show me an oil-rich Republican who feels that way.
I have already said that Obama screwed up here.
> > in favor of the plutocrats.
>
> Obama = Harvard Lawyer, multi-millionaire.
> Hillary = Harvard Lawyer, multi-millionaire
> Kennedy family = Harvard, billionaires
> John Kerry = politically connected Yale billionaire
> Pelosi = old money, politically connected multi-millioare.
> Reid = multi-millionare.
>
> Sarah Palin. Not wealthy. Not powerful. Rose up through the ranks
> with no help from the estiblishment. Took on the big boys and won.
> And you can't stand her because of it.
You compare a bunch of lifetime Demo-only politicians and compare them
with a single example of a Neocon from Alaska, and make believe thats
a fair comparison?
Did Obama start out rich? Check your facts.
How about the Republicans who have haunted the halls of Congress for
years?
How about their cronies in every big dirty industry on the planet,
billionaires who fund their campaigns and keep them in luxury? The
REAL plutocrats? The ones who the Republicans constantly defend?
And *ahem* - what exactly has Palin won from the big boys just yet?
She's lucky she's cute - otherwise you leering buttheads wouldn't give
her a second look.
> So, take your fucking Working Class Hero bullshit and shove it up your
> ass, you big fraud.
Irrelevant bullshit. You imply everything, know nothing. My Dad
worked every day of his life, hard, and knew who was on his side - and
it was not the Republicans.
> > I hate them already. They have
> > no shame, no conscience.
>
> You guys flooded Sarah Palin with endless false lawsits
Huh?
>, you've attacked her children, David Letterman called her 14 year old daughter
> a prostitute,
I'm not David Letterman, and he does not speak for me.
> her infant son has been ridiculed, you've tapped her e-
> mail account, Letterman called her a crack whore - and you applauded
> them.
Not me. You've got the wrong fascist.
>
> You have no shame, and certainly no conscience.
You have no brains, and certainly not the truth on your side.
>
> > > > She and that prick Young from Alaska don't even
> > > > believe that a problem exists, or else they don't care.>
>
> > > There wasn't a problem when Bush or Palin were in charge.
>
> > According to Young, there isn't one now...as of June 4...
>
> > "This is not an environmental disaster, and I will say that again and
> > again."
>
> > We see where the brains in the Republican party aren't!
>
> If this is an ecological disaster, why isn't Obama doing anything to
> stop it?
Well, he has been, but not enough to satisfy me. I doubt that you
care at all.
>
> > Check your history and news sources. BP's safety record - the legally
> > required precautions they were supposed to take to protect against
> > blowouts and spills - in Alaska is no better than the Gulf, and there
> > are public records and employee accounts to prove it. The accident
> > that happened in Louisiana was the result of years if not decades of
> > lack of oversight and foxes guarding the hen house.
>
> So then why didn't Obama do anything to reign them in?
Ummm - because it all happened under BUSH? Check your facts...much of
the worst stuff happened through 2007.
> > Bush's crystal-
> > meth sniffing sex-crazed MMS people saw to that.
>
> The problem is that the MMS that screwed up did so under Obama's
> watch, and your desperate attempt to shift the blame to Bush becomes
> more pathetic by the hour.
They have been screwing up for years. The chickens just finally came
home to roost this year.
>
> Woudl you like to see just how badly Obama's screwed the pooch? Would
> you?
>
> Click here, if you dare....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50GAACuKEQs&feature=player_embedded
Watched it live. I agree with it.
> > > > Who appointed
> > > > the incompetent oil-industry people in charge at the DoI? >
>
> > > President Obama nominated Ken Salazar.
>
> > True, and I admit this - and I hated him from the start - BUT everyone
> > below him in MMS was a Bush appointee - previously overseen by Bush's
> > SOI. Neither Salazar nor Bush's previous DOIs had direct day-to-day
> > oversight of the oil industry -
> > MMS did, that's the where the continuity of habit lies, and that's
> > where the direct fault lies.
>
> > > > Here's a hint - it wasn't Obama and it wasn't Clinton.
>
> > > Yes it was. Obama nominated Ken Salazar. Mr. Salazar never worked in
> > > the Bush White House. Dirk Kempthorne and Gail Ann Norton were
> > > Secretaries of the Interior under President Bush.
> > ..and neither one of THEM fired the incompetent people in MMS either
> > - the direct oversight people.
>
> ....because the MMS, under President Bush, didn't have grossly
> incompetent people who simply took Barrack Petrolatum words. Under
> President Bush, the direct oversight people, well, oversaw directly.
> That's why we had eight happy years of relatively oil free Gulfs.
Wrong. Check your facts. The same people who are now in trouble have
been in MMS for a decade. The same damned people. The ones who had
sex parties and sniffed dope off the microwave.
> > > > Having said that, Obama has blown it with this effort. He should have
> > > > fired Bush's appointees instantly;
>
> > > He did. Obama carried over very few Bush appointees.
>
> > Except all of the MMS people.
>
> ...... do you realize exactly how stupid the above statement is? Ken
> is an Obama appointee
He is not an MMS-only person, you dork, he is the head of Interior!
Do you have a cognitive dysfunction?
>, Liz is a Clinto girl... and yet you claim that
> Obama thought this previously obscure branch of the fed was
> untouchable?
WTF? Are you on drugs? Tim Leary could not make this stuff up...
No - exchanging out every person in the federal government, who he
could not possibly know personally, simply was not at the top of his
agenda.
> > > >.... he should have gotten a real
> > > > national interest person instead of that shill Sleazar,>
>
> > > Agreed....but Obama nominated the guy. ...
>
> > Yes - his biggest mistake.
>
> Oh, noooooooooooooo - Obama has made thousands of "mistakes" which
> were much stupider than that.
But nothing as bad as Bush on his best day.
Joe from Kokomo
> She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be essential in
> winning back the House.
Only if people continue voting for their favorite MILF with their little
head instead of using their big head...
...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
(although she was never even in that part of her state). Sorry, but
intellectually, she's a featherweight -- and dishonest.
> And Sarah will remind the Republicans of her first hand experience in
> just how dirty you cocksuckers fight.
Oh? The Republicans know nothing of dirty fighting?
Karl Rove was the undisputed *master* of dirty tricks.
How quickly you forget.
Russell Ronco
> > >You left out a LOT of details.
>
> > Agreed - one could fill a book with the endless parade of Obama's
> > arrogance and incompetence. In fact, I suspect those books are
> > currently being written.
>
> Blah blah blah. Keep on inventing stuff in your mind.
You've really drunk deep from the Obama Kool Aid, haven't you?
> > > > > In order to do
> > > > > what you suggest, McCain would had to have had different info that
> > > > > Obama had - since BP effectively lied (and continues to lie) to
> > > > > everyone about the severity of the leak and accident.
>
> > > > Which is why it's essential to staff the MMS and the Department of the
> > > > Interior liberally with competent, intelligent people who've worked in
> > > > the oil field instead of socialist pol-sci political appointees, like
> > > > Obama did.
>
> > > Obama kept Bush's appointees. All oil field people.
>
> > Not the head of Department of the Interior, Sen Salar, as you
> > previously implied. Elizabeth Birnbaum was appointed by Clinton, and
> > held over by Bush, where she was promoted to Vice President for
> > Government Affairs and General Counsel for American Rivers.
>
> > Who, exactly, are you talking about?
>
> Try to pay attention and follow along.
Pay attention to what, exactly? You didn't mention any names.
> The people of MMR.
MMR? Who the Hell are the MMR?
These guys?
http://www.mmrmagazine.com/ME2/Default.asp
> Bush appointees. Not Salazar, not Clinton
> holdovers. Look it up.
You did name Salazar, you did imply that Liz was a Bush operative.
Who the Hell are you talking about? Name names.
> > > > > a problem in Alaska because she QUIT after two grueling years as
> > > > > Governor Barbie.
>
> > > > She walked away because little fascists like yourself bombarded her
> > > > with dozens of nuisance lawsuits which made it impossible for her to
> > > > govern. (These stunts cost her a half million dollars and she spend
> > > > three out of every four weeks in court.) Only one lawsuit even went
> > > > to trial, a case Palin won handily. Sarah's children were attacked
> > > > and ridiculed on national television, and Democratic state
> > > > representative Mike Kernell of Memphis sent his weasle son David
> > > > Kernell to break into Gov. Palin's e-mail account.
>
> > > Bullshit. She talked herself into ridicule, and quit because she saw
> > > millions to be made where politics of AK only earned her $100ks. IF
> > > she was really worried about what people said about her, she would not
> > > be where she is now.
>
> > Another fucking lefty who glories in being a bully. I hope you
> > enjoyed the stunts you guys pulled on Sarah - because it's getting
> > your time to be stuck in the wilderness.
>
> Is there a bigger bully than the neocons of the last 10 years? You
> guys are tantamount to Boss Tweed's gang. Nothing anywhere compares
> to Limbaugh.
Your side is populated with the likes of Perez Hilton, Keith Olberman,
Bill Ayers, and Rev. Wright.
> > > > So, instead of letting herself be a target, she changed the rules.
>
> > > Rules? Ha. There never have been any.
> > > > Good for her. She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be
> > > > essential in winning back the House.
>
> > > Yes, a lot of low-IQ 'tards are listening to her empty-headed blather.
>
> > We've had three and a half years of the Smart Guys running the
> > country. Get ready for a major change.
>
> Yeah, back to idiocy. I can hardly wait.
No, abandoning over educated fools, and back to real world
experience. You guys had your chance, and blew it.
> > > > And Sarah will remind the
> > > > Republicans of her first hand experience in just how dirty you
> > > > cocksuckers fight.
>
> > > She taught us everything we know!
>
> > No. Saul Alinsky taught you guys everything you know. Now we have
> > that book.
>
> Irrelevant shit.
Are you under the impression that the word "irrelevant" means
"inconvenient truths?"
> > > >There's a whole new game coming up, and you're not
> > > > going to like how the New GOP plays the game.
>
> > > To quote Indiana Jones... "Nazis - I hate these guys."
>
> > To quote Harrison Ford (board member of Conservation International
> > who waxed off his chest hair to raise awareness about deforestation)
> > when asked how he could consider himself an environmentalist when he
> > owned nine private planes: "I'll start waking everywhere when
> > everyone starts walking everywhere."
>
> Irrelevant shit.
>
> > > Nit since the robber barons has there been a party so seriously skewed against the
> > > powerless
>
> > Who does it hurt when energy prices double? Not Harrison Ford. Not
> > Obama. The powerless who you exploit. Where is your concern for the
> > Louisiana fishermen who've lost their livelihoods because Obama didn't
> > want to do anything about the Gulf leak? The unemployed Obama's
> > simply ignored?
>
> I exploit the powerless? Me?
You're a fucking Obama supporter, aren't you?
> You've got to be kidding.>
Serious as a heart attack.
> My
> sympathies lie entirely with the Gulf Fishermen,
Not if you support Obama, you don't.
"Three days after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf
of Mexico, the Dutch government offered to help.
It was willing to provide ships outfitted with oil-skimming booms, and
it proposed a plan for building sand barriers to protect sensitive
marshlands.
The response from the Obama administration and BP, which are
coordinating the cleanup: “The embassy got a nice letter from the
administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,'” said Geert Visser,
consul general for the Netherlands in Houston."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/steffy/7043272.html
Why did Barrack Petrolatum turn down the generous offer? Because Oil
Slick Barry didn't feel like waving the Jones Act, which requires all
goods be carried in U.S. waters by U.S.-flagged ships. The four ships
can process 20,000,000 gallons of sludgy water a day - more than the
amount that's being pumped out by the leak.
The British made a similar offer, but were refused because (wait for
it).....THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT THE PAPER WORK CORRECTLY!!!!
You can support the fisherman, or you can support Obama. You can't
support both.
>.... and you know it damn
> well. Show me an oil-rich Republican who feels that way.
Govenor Bobby Jindal.
> I have already said that Obama screwed up here.
One might call Oil Slick Barry's actions directly after the explosion
a "screw up" if they were feeling generous. His actions (and non-
actions) during the following seven weeks is nothing short of criminal
incompetence. And that's the KINDEST phrase for Obama's actions.
Members of Obama's Department of the Interior are going to be spending
a LOT of times in courtrooms in the following years.
You can support Obama, or the fishermen. You can't support both.
> > > in favor of the plutocrats.
>
> > Obama = Harvard Lawyer, multi-millionaire.
> > Hillary = Harvard Lawyer, multi-millionaire
> > Kennedy family = Harvard, billionaires
> > John Kerry = politically connected Yale billionaire
> > Pelosi = old money, politically connected multi-millioare.
> > Reid = multi-millionare.
>
> > Sarah Palin. Not wealthy. Not powerful. Rose up through the ranks
> > with no help from the estiblishment. Took on the big boys and won.
> > And you can't stand her because of it.
>
> You compare a bunch of lifetime Demo-only politicians >
The heads of the Democrat Party, the movers and shakers. These are
your Working Class Heroes. And you're stupid enough to believe they
have your best interest at heart when they pass laws that will jack up
your taxes and utilities bills.
> and compare them
> with a single example of a Neocon from Alaska, and make believe thats
> a fair comparison?
Considering how much bile and hatred the Left poured on Sarah and her
faimily, you betcha it's a fair comparison.
> Did Obama start out rich? Check your facts.
He was raised by his grandmother, who was a bank vice president.
Yeah, we all know about the hard scrabble life of the bank vice
presidents. He became a best seller.
Now, if you want to talk about a difficult life, how about President
Goofball's half brother, George Obama? Until a few years ago, this
guy lived in an African slum on (literally) three cents a day. A
twenty dollar bill would have changed Obama's life. When Oil Slick
Barry found out about his sibling's condition, he ran over, exploited
his half brother for a photo op, then dumped him back in the slum. No
twenty dollar bill was forthcoming.
But don't worry about George, he's during terrific these days....
because the conservative magazine National Review raised $10,000.00 to
send him to mechanics school.
http://s0.ilike.com/play#John+Lennon:Working+Class+Hero:78528:m6183291
> How about the Republicans who have haunted the halls of Congress for
> years?
What about them?
> How about their cronies in every big dirty industry on the planet,
> billionaires who fund their campaigns and keep them in luxury? The
> REAL plutocrats? The ones who the Republicans constantly defend?
You mean like George Soros? Kendrick Meek? Pinch Sulzberger? The
vast majority of the super rich in this generation are socialists -
and for very selfish reason. Complex tax laws and endless business
regulations are nothing more than a minor annoyance for the plutocrats
- they simply hire drones to fill in the paperwork. However, those
same laws tend to destroy small start up businesses - the very people
old money fears.
Twenty five years ago, IBM charged the equivalent of a quarter of a
million dollars for a 15 Meg Mainframe. Along comes Apple, and now
anyone can afford an IPAD. How much would it have been worth to IBM
to keep Steve Jobs out of the number crunching biz? And why do you
think that Jobs, after making his little all, pulled the ladder up
behind him?
> And *ahem* - what exactly has Palin won from the big boys just yet?
OK, this is going to be tough for you to remember. A week ago, (yes,
a whoooooooooole week ago) there was an election... and well over 80%
of the people Gov. Palin nominated were elected.
This is called Being A Kingmaker. She has also raised tons of money
for conservative causes, which makes her even more powerful.
So, *ahem* yourself.
> She's lucky she's cute - otherwise you leering buttheads wouldn't give
> her a second look.
Tragically for you, she's also scary smart, and can express complex
complex political ideas more clearly than any politician since FDR.
Meanwhile, your side is populated with an army of self important
narcissists. Does anyone have a kind word for Nancy Pelosi these
days?
> > So, take your fucking Working Class Hero bullshit and shove it up your
> > ass, you big fraud.
>
> Irrelevant bullshit. You imply everything, know nothing. My Dad
> worked every day of his life, hard, and knew who was on his side - and
> it was not the Republicans.
My dad was a Marine Sargent in WWII and Korea. My dad could beat the
shit out of your dad. My dad could beat the shit out of
you....today! Happy father's day, dad - I sent you a copy of the
early short stories of Dashiell Hammett.
. .
> > > I hate them already. They have
> > > no shame, no conscience.
>
> > You guys flooded Sarah Palin with endless false lawsuits
>
> Huh?
Yup, twenty of them. Pretty much all dismissed. My personal favorite
was some loon from England who filed a suit which claimed Governor
Palin denied her employment. The Limey never applied for a job in
Alaska, or even visited the state....but she sued, and Sarah had to
pay a lawyer to fight the suit, and she had to take time from her
duties as governor to answer the complaint.
http://s0.ilike.com/play#John+Lennon:Working+Class+Hero:78528:m6183291
> >, you've attacked her children, David Letterman called her 14 year old daughter
> > a prostitute,
>
> I'm not David Letterman, and he does not speak for me.
Ooooooo - backing away from the left's spokesmen - a very good sign,
indeed.
> > her infant son has been ridiculed, you've tapped her e-
> > mail account, Letterman called her a crack whore - and you applauded
> > them.
>
> Not me. You've got the wrong fascist.
What can I say.... all you fascists look alike.
> > You have no shame, and certainly no conscience.
>
> You have no brains, and certainly not the truth on your side.
Gee, I predicted that the Stimulus Bill wasn't going to work. How did
that work out?
> > > > > She and that prick Young from Alaska don't even
> > > > > believe that a problem exists, or else they don't care.>
>
> > > > There wasn't a problem when Bush or Palin were in charge.
>
> > > According to Young, there isn't one now...as of June 4...
>
> > > "This is not an environmental disaster, and I will say that again and
> > > again."
>
> > > We see where the brains in the Republican party aren't!
>
> > If this is an ecological disaster, why isn't Obama doing anything to
> > stop it?
>
> Well, he has been,
Please list what, exactly, he did during the first month of the
disaster.
>.... but not enough to satisfy me. I doubt that you
> care at all.
It's more that I don't believe you.
If you cared about the fisherman, you wouldn't give offering face
saving "not enough" platitudes, you'd be attacking Oil Slick Barry
night and day. But you don't give a shit about the Americans who
Obama has screwed over, you care about the Democrats.
> > > Check your history and news sources. BP's safety record - the legally
> > > required precautions they were supposed to take to protect against
> > > blowouts and spills - in Alaska is no better than the Gulf, and there
> > > are public records and employee accounts to prove it. The accident
> > > that happened in Louisiana was the result of years if not decades of
> > > lack of oversight and foxes guarding the hen house.
>
> > So then why didn't Obama do anything to reign them in?
>
> Ummm - because it all happened under BUSH?
Really? Please list the major drilling accidents that happened under
President Bush. Please don't bother with anything that's dumped less
than one percent the amount that Barrack Petrolatum is expected to
dispense.
> Check your facts...much of
> the worst stuff happened through 2007.
I have checked it, as it happens. The worst drilling "disaster"
during the Age of Competence (2001 - 2009) was a cracked seal that,
over an eight month period, released less oil that BP is spewing in
any given hour (some estimates have it a less then is spewed in 15
minutes.) Trust me, if you guys had something real to hang on Bush,
we would have heard about it looooooooooooooong ago.
> > > Bush's crystal-
> > > meth sniffing sex-crazed MMS people saw to that.
>
> > The problem is that the MMS that screwed up did so under Obama's
> > watch, and your desperate attempt to shift the blame to Bush becomes
> > more pathetic by the hour.
>
> They have been screwing up for years.
Really? Please list the major drilling accidents that happened under
President Bush. Please don't bother with anything that's dumped less
than one percent the amount that Barrack Petrolatum is expected to
dispense.
> The chickens just finally came
> home to roost this year.
Why didn't Obama fix this desperately troubled agency over the past
year?
1. If they were so corrupt during the Bush administration, why didn't
we have major drilling accidents from 2001 - 2009?
2. If the MMS was so corrupt post Jan 20th, 2009, why didn't Obama
replace them?
Russell Ronco
> > ...... do you realize exactly how stupid the above statement is? Ken
> > is an Obama appointee
>
> He is not an MMS-only person, you dork, he is the head of Interior!
> Do you have a cognitive dysfunction?
No, I have a finely tuned bullshit detector. If you have names of
corrupt members of the MMS, please name them, and what they did. If
not, please stop wasting my time.
> >, Liz is a Clinton girl... and yet you claim that
> > Obama thought this previously obscure branch of the fed was
> > untouchable?
>
> WTF? Are you on drugs? Tim Leary could not make this stuff up...
What do you deny? That Liz was appointed by Clinton? Do you claim
that Obama couldn't get rid of Liz? If he could, please answer why he
didn't.
> No - exchanging out every person in the federal government, who he
> could not possibly know personally, simply was not at the top of his
> agenda.
Ultimately, Bush took the rap for Brownie.
> > > > >.... he should have gotten a real
> > > > > national interest person instead of that shill Sleazar,>
>
> > > > Agreed....but Obama nominated the guy. ...
>
> > > Yes - his biggest mistake.
>
> > Oh, noooooooooooooo - Obama has made thousands of "mistakes" which
> > were much stupider than that.
>
> But nothing as bad as Bush on his best day.
In a recent poll, the people of Louisiana believe Bush did a better
job with Katrina than Obma's doing with the Gulf spill . Oil Slick
Barry quadrupled Bush's deficit average, created double digit
unemployment, and has set in motion the destruction of Ameican
HealthCare.
Chas. Chan
>
> ...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
> at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
> (although she was never even in that part of her state).
>
She never said that. You are a faggot liar.
You are a sniveling parrot of Communist propaganda lies for the
Liberal Fascists.
RHF
> On Jun 16, 6:41 am, Joe from Kokomo <j...@indy.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > ...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
> > at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
> > (although she was never even in that part of her state).
>
> She never said that. You are a faggot liar.
- You are a sniveling parrot of Communist propaganda
- lies for the Liberal Fascists.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist"
? Can It Exist ? & ? Does It Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
.
Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that
Liberal-Fascism Does Exist in the 21st
Century is an Tired Old Argument.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/7fd91b4a2e4429c9
.
"Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
Liberal-Fascism is a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10
.
Once again today is the 16 June 2010
and it is Day # 58 of the 21st Centuries
Greatest Ecological Disaster.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/aaa0eebe8116c7d0
.
Joe from Kokomo
> On Jun 16, 6:41 am, Joe from Kokomo<j...@indy.net> wrote:
>>
>> ...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
>> at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
>> (although she was never even in that part of her state).
On 6/16/2010 9:08 PM, Chas. Chan wrote:
> She never said that.
Oh, so you are saying that you missed all the TV news coverage of her
saying it.
"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen".
The good news is, she *couldn't* stand the heat, so she *did* get out of
the kitchen. Fair enough, maybe even commendable.
The bad news is, now that she has shown she can't stand the heat, why
would anybody ever vote her back into public office????
Russell Ronco
> On 6/15/2010 10:48 PM,WalterHardingwrote:
Really?
How many people who asked Bush a question found their tax records on
the evening news?
How many Democrats politicians found their email accounts hacked and
private records stolen?
There Black Panthers stood outside polling with clubs, threatening to
attack elderly white voters, screaming "there's a black man in charge,
cracker." The Attorney General of the United States had the charges
dismissed.
when did Karl Vote ever attempt to have all political discussion (with
cherry picked exceptions) banned for two months before a national
election?
Russell Ronco
> On 6/15/2010 10:48 PM,WalterHardingwrote:
>
> > winning back the House.
>
> Only if people continue voting for their favorite MILF with their little
> head instead of using their big head...
You really are quite terrified of strong women, aren't you?
> ...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
> at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
> (although she was never even in that part of her state). Sorry, but
> intellectually, she's a featherweight -- and dishonest.
You know, of course, she never said that, don't you?
Oh, wait....you don't care.
Russell Ronco
> > On Jun 16, 6:41 am, Joe from Kokomo<j...@indy.net> wrote:
>
> >> ...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
> >> at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
> >> (although she was never even in that part of her state).
>
> On 6/16/2010 9:08 PM, Chas. Chan wrote:
>
> > She never said that.
>
> Oh, so you are saying that you missed all the TV news coverage of her
> saying it.
No, Tina Fey said it on Saturday Night Live. It was a joke.
Sarah Palin did say that one can see Russia from parts of Alaska.... a
factiod the left didn't know.
pariti
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dave
>
>
> The bad news is, now that she has shown she can't stand the heat, why
> would anybody ever vote her back into public office????
Because she is a MILF?
bpnjensen
She did strongly imply that her State's proximity to Russia makes her
something of an expert on relations with that nation.
RHF
> On Jun 17, 4:05 pm, Russell Ronco <gopartyani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 4:41 am, Joe from Kokomo <j...@indy.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 6/15/2010 10:48 PM,WalterHardingwrote:
>
> > > > She's now a very powerful Republican, and will be essential in
> > > > winning back the House.
>
> > > Only if people continue voting for their favorite MILF with their little
> > > head instead of using their big head...
>
> > You really are quite terrified of strong women, aren't you?
>
> > > ...and "Governor" Barbie is still a dingbat, having told us she was good
> > > at international relations because she could see Russia from Alaska
> > > (although she was never even in that part of her state). Sorry, but
> > > intellectually, she's a featherweight -- and dishonest.
>
> > You know, of course, she never said that, don't you?
>
> > Oh, wait....you don't care.
- She did strongly imply that her State's proximity
- to Russia makes her something of an expert on
- relations with that nation.
Alaska
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska
Alaska Purchase
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Purchase
Territory of Alaska
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Territory
History of Alaska
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Alaska
With Canada at it's back Alaska faces Russia
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-09-04-Alaska_Russia_Palin.jpg
. . . while the lower 48 are not in the picture . . .
* * * Daily News Alert * * * [Two Months]
This is the 60 Day of the 21st Centuries Greatest
Ecological Disaster : The Obama Oil Spill of 2010*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP_Oil_Spill
* Big Government Inaction {Un-Action}
.
All the while Prez Obama continues to Lip Sync to
the Teleprompter and Pose for the TV Cameras and
now has collected {illegally extorted} a $20B Political
Slush Fund being administered internally by the Obama
Regime without any Congressional Oversight or Public
Controls like the independent and autonomous
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11th_Victim_Compensation_Fund
.
Praise Be The Obama ! - my prez-a-duntz ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17kA50c1zs
All Hail to Our Lord and Savior Prez Obama !
.
dave
And that the Russians would have to cross Alaska to invade the USA
RHF
> bpnjensen wrote:
> > On Jun 17, 4:05 pm, Russell Ronco<gopartyani...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Oh, wait....you don't care.
>
- - proximity to Russia makes her something
- - of an expert on relations with that nation.
- And that the Russians would have to cross
- Alaska to invade the USA
Technically Dave,
The Russians would have to cross Alaska and
then cross through Canada to invade the USA
-if- they were going to invade by/via Land.
that's a one-if-by . . . ~ RHF
.
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
> bpnjensen wrote:
>
> > something of an expert on relations with that nation.
>
> And that the Russians would have to cross Alaska to invade the USA
From the pea-brain of Professor Dr.DaviD -PhD.
ROTFLMAO! You are a fine example of Public School geography
education.
Keep licking the 0val 0rifice and smoking 0baMa0 CrAcK JaCkAsS.