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Cicero_Venatio
Jun 12, 2013, 10:21:20 AM6/12/13
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This is the future, I can understand the Senator but can you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhVZrNHPqFs
dice que esta contra la amnistia, pero los detalles dicen el contrario.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhVZrNHPqFs
dice que esta contra la amnistia, pero los detalles dicen el contrario.
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Cicero_Venatio
Jun 12, 2013, 12:54:35 PM6/12/13
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> THIS---is the past, present and eternal future for YOU, filedud
>
> It's why you do not have credibility here.
>
> AT ALL.
>> ================================
Gary, how is it going to make you feel when you call Domino's Pizza and
they keep hanging up on you because you ain't speaking spanish? Will
you hit the bong harder and do a Cheech and Chong routine when you try
to call them again?
Gary, you are living in a Twilight Zone existence hoping the rich are
taxed, who happen to be the life blood for the Democrat Party.
Wealthy = Democrats.
For you to have rational political thought you have to grasp that simple
equation.
a425couple
Jun 13, 2013, 11:12:02 PM6/13/13
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"Cicero_Venatio" <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
you keep making.
I believe there are rich, very rich, and super rich in
both the Democrat and Republican parties.
Meanwhile here is an interesting site:
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/04/iq-income-and-wealth.html
Very interesting chart
correlation IQ & wealth
correlation IQ & income
"The strong link between I.Q and earnings is well known by labor
economists, but perhaps not by the affluent and high-I.Q readers
of the New York Times. Obviously most of it goes through education.
As technological development makes I.Q more valuable and unskilled
labor less valuable, this disparity is increasing."
> Gary, you are living in a Twilight Zone existence hoping the rich are
> taxed, who happen to be the life blood for the Democrat Party.
>
> Wealthy = Democrats.
> For you to have rational political thought you have to grasp that simple
> equation.
Again, please show some data to support that assertion
> taxed, who happen to be the life blood for the Democrat Party.
>
> Wealthy = Democrats.
> For you to have rational political thought you have to grasp that simple
> equation.
you keep making.
I believe there are rich, very rich, and super rich in
both the Democrat and Republican parties.
Meanwhile here is an interesting site:
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/04/iq-income-and-wealth.html
Very interesting chart
correlation IQ & wealth
correlation IQ & income
"The strong link between I.Q and earnings is well known by labor
economists, but perhaps not by the affluent and high-I.Q readers
of the New York Times. Obviously most of it goes through education.
As technological development makes I.Q more valuable and unskilled
labor less valuable, this disparity is increasing."
Cicero_Venatio
Jun 14, 2013, 10:53:35 AM6/14/13
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> Again, please show some data to support that assertion you keep making.
> I believe there are rich, very rich, and super rich in both the Democrat
> and Republican parties.
exclusively a Democrat Country Club. As you go down that scale to the
middle, first there is a sprinkling of Republican to majority of
Republicans in the middle of the scale. If you have eyes, ears, and a
brain this is obvious to see for anyone that isn't mentally challenged.
Barack Obama raises more money for the Democrat Party in California
than all of the other 49 states combined. California's middle class is
rapidly disappearing so do you think that money comes from illegal
immigrants? It all comes from the wealthy in Hollywood, Silicon Valley
and government unions. The money comes from the have's, not the have
not's. Do you need stats to overcome the lies of Hollywood (Democrats),
national media (Democrats), and Democrat Campaigns to convince you that
what they say is fiction??
a425couple
Jun 14, 2013, 1:23:19 PM6/14/13
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>> Again, please show some data to support that assertion you keep making.
>> I believe there are rich, very rich, and super rich in both the Democrat
>> and Republican parties.
>
> So bipartisan and so wrong. At the top of the wealth scale it is almost
> exclusively a Democrat Country Club. Do you need stats to -----
>> I believe there are rich, very rich, and super rich in both the Democrat
>> and Republican parties.
>
> So bipartisan and so wrong. At the top of the wealth scale it is almost
I would need stats, to overcome logic.
In effect, the end result of your claim would have to be,
that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
Blatently false.
Koch family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch — the two brothers still with
Koch Industries — are affiliated with the Koch family foundations.
Annual revenues for Koch ...
Koch Industries - Political activities of the Koch ... - David H. Koch -
Fred C. Koch
Political activities of the Koch brothers - Wikipedia, the free ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Koch_brothers
Charles G. Koch and David H. Koch are the sons of Fred C. Koch. ... The Koch
brothers contribute a large amount of money to conservative, libertarian,
and ...
Cicero_Venatio
Jun 14, 2013, 4:31:16 PM6/14/13
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> In effect, the end result of your claim would have to be,
> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
> Blatently false.
>
The Koch brothers are Libertarian, not Republican. They are for
abortion and drug legalization, hardly Republicans.
I'll give you a sample of just who in Hollywood is rich and giving
profusely to the Democrats.
Ben Affleck[188]
Dianna Agron[189]
Jessica Alba[190]
Alan Alda[191]
Jason Alexander[192]
Richard Dean Anderson[193]
David Arquette[194]
Patricia Arquette[195]
Scott Bakula[193]
Alec Baldwin[193]
Antonio Banderas[196]
Elizabeth Banks[197]
John Barrowman[198]
Drew Barrymore[199]
Justin Bartha[200]
Angela Bassett[201]
Troian Bellisario[202]
Maria Bello[174]
Jim Belushi[203]
Jon Bernthal[204]
Wilson Bethel[205]
Jack Black[206]
Michael Ian Black[207]
Alexis Bledel[208]
Zach Braff[209]
Jeff Bridges[210]
Connie Britton[174]
Matthew Broderick[211]
James Brolin[148]
Sophia Bush[212]
Nick Cannon[213]
Kate Capshaw[193]
Jim Carrey[214]
Chevy Chase[215]
Don Cheadle[216]
Kristin Chenoweth[174]
John Cho[193]
George Clooney[193]
Rachael Leigh Cook[217]
Kevin Costner[218]
Daniel Craig[219]
Bryan Cranston[188]
Russell Crowe[220]
Alan Cumming[156]
Jamie Lee Curtis[221]
Tim Daly[222]
Tyne Daly[174]
Matt Damon[223]
Blythe Danner[224]
Larry David[225]
Geena Davis[191]
Rosario Dawson[226]
Kat Dennings[227]
Robert De Niro[201]
Portia de Rossi[199]
Zooey Deschanel[228]
Danny DeVito[229]
Cameron Diaz[230]
Leonardo DiCaprio[231]
Tate Donovan[174]
Paul Dooley[224]
Kirk Douglas[174]
Michael Douglas[193]
Robert Downey, Jr.[232]
Fran Drescher[233]
Julia Louis-Dreyfus[234]
Hilary Duff[235]
Lena Dunham[236]
Eliza Dushku[237]
Anthony Edwards[193]
Jesse Eisenberg[238]
Tracee Ellis Ross[239]
Hector Elizondo[224]
Omar Epps[156]
Giancarlo Esposito[240]
Chris Evans[241]
Donald Faison[209]
Edie Falco[242]
Mia Farrow[243]
Jesse Tyler Ferguson[244]
America Ferrera[245]
Will Ferrell[193]
Laurence Fishburne[246]
Bridget Fonda[174]
Vivica A. Fox[216]
Jamie Foxx[247]
Morgan Freeman[248]
Johnny Galecki[174]
Jennifer Garner[193]
Gina Gershon[229]
Whoopi Goldberg[249]
Jonathan Goldsmith[250]
Selena Gomez[251]
Topher Grace[174]
Clark Gregg[252]
Adrian Grenier[194]
Melanie Griffith[196]
Ronald Guttman[174]
Luis Guzmán[253]
Mark Hamill[254]
Jon Hamm[255]
Alyson Hannigan[256]
Tom Hanks[257]
Mariska Hargitay[194]
Hill Harper[139]
Ed Harris[224]
Neil Patrick Harris[126]
Anne Hathaway[174]
Salma Hayek[148]
Colton Haynes[258]
Dennis Haysbert[193]
Ed Helms[259]
Taraji P. Henson[174]
Jamie Hector[242]
Marg Helgenberger[224]
Terrence Howard[240]
Cheyenne Jackson[126]
Samuel L. Jackson[260]
Ken Jeong[259]
Scarlett Johansson[261]
Don Johnson[262]
Dwayne Johnson[263]
Angelina Jolie[264]
James Earl Jones[265]
Rashida Jones[140]
Ashley Judd[266]
Carol Kane[224]
Michael Keaton[267]
Stacy Keibler[268]
Minka Kelly[269]
Anna Kendrick[189]
Wayne Knight[195]
Mila Kunis[270]
Ashton Kutcher[271]
Padma Lakshmi[272]
Nathan Lane[242]
Angela Lansbury[273]
Sanaa Lathan[274]
John Leguizamo[275]
John Lithgow[276]
Judith Light[277]
Justin Long[278]
Nia Long[279]
Eva Longoria[196]
Jane Lynch[193]
Tobey Maguire[280]
Wendie Malick[174]
Stephanie March[255]
Julianna Margulies[272]
Marsha Mason[174]
Audra McDonald[126]
Benjamin McKenzie[189]
Alyssa Milano[224]
Christa Miller[193]
Demi Moore[271]
Julianne Moore[242]
Mandy Moore[281]
Jennifer Morrison[193]
Olivia Munn[282]
Lucas Neff[283]
Leonard Nimoy[224]
Cynthia Nixon[126]
Edward Norton[284]
Gwyneth Paltrow[193]
Al Pacino[285]
Hayden Panettiere[240]
Sarah Jessica Parker[285]
Kal Penn[286]
Sean Penn[287]
Rhea Perlman[229]
Bernadette Peters[174]
Clarke Peters[242]
Michelle Pfeiffer[288]
Mekhi Phifer[139]
Wendell Pierce[242]
Brad Pitt[289]
Oliver Platt[224]
Martha Plimpton[290]
Amy Poehler[291]
Natalie Portman[292]
Chris Pratt[174]
Maggie Q[189]
Zachary Quinto[189]
Daniel Radcliffe[293]
Josh Radnor[189]
Sheryl Lee Ralph[294]
Robert Redford[295]
Jeremy Renner[189]
Salli Richardson[216]
Lisa Rinna[269]
Julia Roberts[296]
Adam Rodríguez[189]
Seth Rogen[297]
Brandon Routh[189]
Paul Rudd[228]
Mark Ruffalo[224]
Susan Sarandon[224]
Tony Shalhoub[193]
Molly Shannon[298]
Martin Sheen[299]
Sherri Shepherd[205]
Elisabeth Shue[224]
Christian Slater[224]
Jada Pinkett Smith[260]
Will Smith[260]
Sonja Sohn[242]
Ian Somerhalder[174]
Kevin Spacey[228]
Octavia Spencer[300]
Ben Stiller[201]
Sharon Stone[193]
Meryl Streep[301]
Brenda Strong[193]
Jason Sudeikis[174]
Kiefer Sutherland[302]
Kiefer Sutherland[302]
George Takei[303]
Jeffrey Tambor[256]
Holland Taylor[174]
Marlo Thomas[234]
Lily Tomlin[224]
Aisha Tyler[174]
Gabrielle Union[304]
Courtney B. Vance[224]
Mark Wahlberg[305]
Christopher Walken[306]
Kate Walsh[307]
Denzel Washington[308]
Kerry Washington[309]
Sam Waterston[174]
Marlon Wayans[205]
Jennifer Westfeldt[255]
Betty White[310]
Bradley Whitford[224]
Olivia Wilde[174]
Wayne Wilderson[193]
Vanessa L. Williams[193]
Rita Wilson[193]
Reese Witherspoon[265]
Alfre Woodard[311]
Joanne Woodward[312]
Aziz Ansari[313]
Bill Cosby[314]
Margaret Cho[315]
David Cross[316]
Billy Crystal[317]
Jimmy Fallon[318]
Zach Galifianakis[259]
Ricky Gervais[319]
Chelsea Handler[320]
Kevin Hart[321]
Steve Harvey[193]
John Hodgman[322]
Richard Lewis[224]
George Lopez[323]
Eddie Murphy[324]
Patton Oswalt[325]
Carl Reiner[193]
Chris Rock[326]
Jeffrey Ross[327]
Rickey Smiley[193]
Yeardley Smith[193]
Sinbad[216]
Wanda Sykes[328]
Paul F. Tompkins[329]
J. J. Abrams[330]
Darren Aronofsky[331]
Judd Apatow[332]
Peter Berg[332]
Wes Craven[224]
Cameron Crowe[234]
Jesse Dylan[333]
Nora Ephron[224]
Peter Farrelly[224]
David Fincher[331]
Miloš Forman[224]
Ron Howard[234]
Spike Lee[213]
David Lynch[334]
Michael Mann[224]
Garry Marshall[224]
Adam McKay[205]
Bennett Miller[335]
Rob Minkoff[174]
Michael Moore[336]
Tyler Perry[337]
John Sayles[338]
Martin Scorsese[234]
Kevin Smith[339]
Steven Spielberg[340]
Oliver Stone[341]
Quentin Tarantino[224]
Marc Webb[331]
Joss Whedon[342]
Joy Behar[343]
Tom Bergeron[224]
Andy Cohen[301]
Ellen DeGeneres[265]
Perez Hilton[210]
Star Jones[201]
Gayle King[344]
Bill Maher[345]
Bill Nye[346]
Suze Orman[156]
Maury Povich[347]
Nicole Richie[256]
Cristina Saralegui[348]
Stuart Scott[349]
Jerry Springer[350]
Howard Stern[351]
Martha Stewart[228]
Oprah Winfrey[352]
Wendy Williams[353]
Chr50 Cent[354]
Marc Anthony[355]
Fiona Apple[224]
Burt Bacharach[342]
Jeff Beck[356]
Natasha Bedingfield[357]
Tony Bennett[358]
Mary J. Blige[359]
Jon Bon Jovi[360]
Jimmy Buffett[361]
David Byrne[194]
Colbie Caillat[362]
Mariah Carey[213]
Cher[265]
Kelly Clarkson[363]
Common[364]
Chris Cornell[365]
Sheryl Crow[366]
Ice Cube[367]
Miley Cyrus[368]
Neil Diamond[369]
Jack Dishel[370]
Snoop Dogg[371]
Bob Dylan[372]
El Debarge[216]
Gloria Estefan[373]
Ben Folds[374]
Peter Frampton[174]
Aretha Franklin[156]
Michael Franti[375]
Lady Gaga[376]
Philip Glass[224]
Al Green[377]
Cee Lo Green[378]
Josh Groban[379]
Buddy Guy[356]
Merle Haggard[380]
Anthony Hamilton[216]
Herbie Hancock[381]
Don Henley[224]
Jennifer Hudson[381]
Mick Jagger[356]
Elton John[382]
Jack Johnson[383]
Quincy Jones[384]
Toby Keith[385]
R. Kelly[386]
Alicia Keys[387]
B.B. King[356]
Carole King[388]
Beyoncé Knowles[216]
Dave Koz[156]
Kris Kristofferson[224]
Jay-Z[216]
Adam Lambert[389]
Cyndi Lauper[390]
John Legend[391]
Jared Leto[392]
Adam Levine[393]
Jennifer Lopez[394]
LeToya Luckett[395]
Ludacris[396]
Lykke Li[397]
Joel Madden[256]
Madonna[398]
Barry Manilow[224]
Chris Martin[387]
Ricky Martin[399]
Dave Matthews[400]
Paul McCartney[401]
John Mellencamp[402]
Bette Midler[194]
Nicki Minaj[403]
Moby[205]
Janelle Monáe[404]
Jason Mraz[140]
Nas[405]
Ne-Yo[406]
Willie Nelson[407]
Randy Newman[408]
Thao Nguyen[409]
Aubrey O'Day[202]
Joell Ortiz[410]
Johnny Otto[234]
Katy Perry[205]
Pink[406]
Pitbull[411]
Pras[216]
Busta Rhymes[202]
Flo Rida[412]
Axl Rose[413]
Rick Ross[414]
Kelly Rowland[415]
Ray-J[416]
Rza[367]
Johnny Rzeznik[357]
Jessica Sanchez[417]
Paul Simon[418]
Trey Songz[419]
Regina Spektor[420]
Bruce Springsteen[421]
Yvonne Staples[174]
Barbra Streisand[422]
James Taylor[423]
Toni Tennille[174]
T.I.[424]
Treach[367]
Tune-Yards[425]
Justin Timberlake[426]
Usher[427]
Cristie Brinkley[224]
Pete Wentz[174]
Kanye West[261]
will.i.am[332]
Stevie Wonder[428]
Chely Wright[429]
Lawrence Bender[21]
Dustin Lance Black[156]
Barbara Broccoli[342]
Brian Grazer[234]
Kathleen Kennedy[342]
Jon Landau[332]
Norman Lear[224]
Frank Marshall[342]
Aaron Sorkin[332]
Harvey Weinstein
Now the list of Hollywood giving to the RNC...
Powers Boothe[330]
Gary Busey[331]
James Caan[332]
Shannen Doherty[339]
Robert Duvall[340]
Clint Eastwood[341]
R. Lee Ermey[342]
Erik Estrada[330]
Andy Garcia[330]
Mel Gibson[343]
Kelsey Grammer[344]
Lindsay Lohan[350]
Chuck Norris[351]
Arnold Schwarzenegger[354]
Tom Selleck[40]
Gary Sinise[355]
Suzanne Somers[358]
Sylvester Stallone[334]
Jon Voight[362]
James Woods[332]
Which list is bigger? We can do CEO's next week if you wish.
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2,016 murdered in Obama's organized communities
Jun 15, 2013, 2:06:47 AM6/15/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:17:23 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:31:16 -0700, Cicero_Venatio
><jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> In effect, the end result of your claim would have to be,
>>> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
>>> Blatently false.
>>>
>>-----------
>>The Koch brothers are Libertarian, not Republican. They are for
>>abortion and drug legalization, hardly Republicans.
>
>They are for the wealthy. Just because they do not adopt Social
>conservative issues, don't mean they are any less greedy and
>chickeshit.
Aintcher money, bitchboy.
>On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:31:16 -0700, Cicero_Venatio
><jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> In effect, the end result of your claim would have to be,
>>> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
>>> Blatently false.
>>>
>>-----------
>>The Koch brothers are Libertarian, not Republican. They are for
>>abortion and drug legalization, hardly Republicans.
>
>conservative issues, don't mean they are any less greedy and
>chickeshit.
Aintcher money, bitchboy.
a425couple
Jun 15, 2013, 5:58:02 PM6/15/13
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"Cicero_Venatio" <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>> In effect, the end result of your claim would have to be,
>> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
>> Blatently false.
>>
>> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
>> Blatently false.
>>
> The Koch brothers are Libertarian, not Republican. They are for abortion
> and drug legalization, hardly Republicans.
Frankly, Cicero, you are as ignorant, uninformed, biased, and
> and drug legalization, hardly Republicans.
judgemental a person as Yoorghis (just on other side).
How dare you try to say elected Republicans such as
Dan Evans, Slade Gorton, Joel Pritchard, Lud Kramer, John
Spellman and Bruce Chapman, are not REPUBLICANS!!
You are not fit to try defining "Republican"!
Who do you think acted to get abortions legal in 1970 in
Washington State long before Roe v. Wade??
http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&File_Id=5313
"Marilyn Ward of Seattle, a liberal Republican and volunteer lobbyist
for welfare reform and children’s issues;
Republican State Senator Joel Pritchard of Seattle."
"support of Governor Dan Evans (b. 1925), a liberal Republican."
And there were plenty of Washington Mainstream
Republicans working towards marijuanna reform in 2012 also.
http://www.washingtonmainstream.org/
a425couple
Jun 16, 2013, 1:00:37 PM6/16/13
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>> In effect, the end result of your claim would have to be,
>> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
>> Blatently false.
> -----------
> The Koch brothers are ---------
>> that Republican's are not smart enough to get super rich.
>> Blatently false.
> -----------
> I'll give you a sample of just who in Hollywood is rich and giving
> profusely to the Democrats.
> Ben Affleck[188]
Cicero, this seems another case of your confused thinking.
> profusely to the Democrats.
> Ben Affleck[188]
You were making claims about the really super rich,
and now in trying to support it you list a couple hundred
current Hollywood celebrities. Hardly the same.
Try this cite for some valid info:
http://themonkeycage.org/2012/05/27/more-on-the-politics-of-the-super-rich/
Read the whole thing, not just the first lines strawmen.
I think most will agree, the Forbes 400 richest Americans are "super rich".
And as the chart shows, they donate to both D & R.
Interesting, they avoid the extreme liberal, and the extreme conservative!!
Cicero_Venatio
Jun 17, 2013, 10:37:55 AM6/17/13
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> Cicero, this seems another case of your confused thinking.
> You were making claims about the really super rich,
> and now in trying to support it you list a couple hundred
> current Hollywood celebrities. Hardly the same.
Unfortunately, celebrities are incredibly wealthy. They don't deserve
to be, but they are. Here are some links you might want to look at.
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2011/08/some-rich-people-like-gop-but-super-rich-are-for-democrats.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/15/the-progressive-movement-is-a-pr-front-for-rich-democrats/
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2007/10/ceos_for_clinton.html
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