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We Shall Overcome - Faith in Mankind, Part II

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The_Carpathia

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Dec 5, 2009, 6:21:27 AM12/5/09
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Following up on my last post saying that we must reject fear, since
fear ITSELF will paralyze our economy and destroy our country, and
must choose faith in mankind to save the economy (not the leader in
office at the time), we have the news that unemployment dropped. Our
leaders are about to issue plans to stimulate jobs that are already
bouncing back to capitalize on the job growth already happening in our
economy on the schedule that a normal recession recovers....just as I
said would happen.

Government is irrelevant. We don't even need it. For the first
decade of our country, we had a dysfunctional govt, used foreign
currency, and relied on local militias...and we were just fine. So,
who cares what such an irrelevant organization has to say about a
private market recovery and economy?

We shall overcome and prosper, and mankind will make it happen...not a
leader of any party that will pridefully assume its all about
themselves (idiots).

Kenneth W Clifton

JayPee Vee

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Dec 5, 2009, 9:33:59 AM12/5/09
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On 5 déc, 12:21, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Following up on my last post

who gives a flying fuck?

saying that we must reject fear, since
> fear ITSELF will paralyze our economy and destroy our country, and
> must choose faith in mankind to save the economy (not the leader in
> office at the time),

why not?

we have the news that unemployment dropped.  Our
> leaders are about to issue plans to stimulate jobs that are already
> bouncing back to capitalize on the job growth already happening in our
> economy on the schedule that a normal recession recovers....just as I
> said would happen.

I wonder what's bigger: your stupidity or your ego...
Say, Kennie, how come a person as intelligent as you is still
unemployed?
Could it be that you're the only one who sees yourself as brilliant
while the rest of us see you for what you are: an egomaniac and a
delusional buffoon posturing as a christian?
Say, do you still give good reviews to your own books on amazon.com?

>
> Government is irrelevant.  We don't even need it.  For the first
> decade of our country, we had a dysfunctional govt, used foreign
> currency, and relied on local militias...and we were just fine.

That was more than 200 years ago, you moron. Things change. We were
just fine without internet as well... Should we get rid of it too?
How about cds? Hey, for thousands of years, we didn't have books.
Should we burned them?
Say Kennie, for many years, we lived without christianity too, should
we abolish this sect?

 So,
> who cares what such an irrelevant organization has to say about a
> private market recovery and economy?

It obviously bothers you that there are people more intelligent than
you -and more valliant than you- who happen to have more competence
than you.


>
> We shall overcome and prosper, and mankind will make it happen...not a
> leader of any party that will pridefully assume its all about
> themselves (idiots).
>
> Kenneth W Clifton

Do you take yourself seriously when you write such nonsense?
Has anyone close to you ever told you how full-of-shit you were?
I sincerely pity your wife and kids... Not to mention your in-laws...

The_Carpathia

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Dec 5, 2009, 6:54:36 PM12/5/09
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Another thought on why govt is irrelevant. You cannot change human
nature. If you cannot gamble in the market, the track and sports
gambling (or casinos) will boom. If you cannot give large salaries,
they will give large bonuses, perks, cars, etc. They may change the
rules, but human nature will overcome all obstacles....even the
government. It will just give trial lawyers something on which to
collect fees.

Kenneth W Clifton

JayPee Vee

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Dec 6, 2009, 3:28:35 AM12/6/09
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> Kenneth W Clifton-

I see that you didn't answer this. Here it is again, in case you have
something intelligent to say:
Two hundred years ago, were just fine without internet as well...


Should we get rid of it too?
How about cds? Hey, for thousands of years, we didn't have books.
Should we burned them?
Say Kennie, for many years, we lived without christianity too, should
we abolish this sect?

Do you seriously think that posting this adolescent gibberish makes
any sense at all?

BTW, are you giving stars to your own postings again?

Demon Buddha

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Dec 6, 2009, 8:16:57 PM12/6/09
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The_Carpathia wrote:

> Government is irrelevant.

Tell that to those holding office. Tell that to the armed men who beg
to differ with you.

> We don't even need it.

Depends on the person in question. Some definitely do not need it. I
certainly do not, but think of the millions of career welfare parasites.
Without government many of them would die. I don't have a big problem
with that fact, mind you - just making note of the reality.

> For the first
> decade of our country, we had a dysfunctional govt, used foreign
> currency, and relied on local militias...and we were just fine. So,
> who cares what such an irrelevant organization has to say about a
> private market recovery and economy?

Apparently a lot of people care, which is more the root of the problem
than anything else.
>
> We shall overcome and prosper

Not if we don't get government under control - and that isn't looking
good at this time.

Bob LeChevalier

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Dec 6, 2009, 9:02:35 PM12/6/09
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Demon Buddha <Nob...@no.where> wrote:
>The_Carpathia wrote:
>
>> Government is irrelevant.
>
> Tell that to those holding office. Tell that to the armed men who beg
>to differ with you.

Better yet - tell it to the more than hundred million who thought
government was relevant enough, that who was elected was important
enough to be worth their time to traipse down to the polls to vote in
2008. I'll even bet Kennie the liar was one of them who voted in
2008, (and he certainly wasted hundreds of hours posting about the
election and the government over several months) making him a grade-A
hypocrite to say that it is irrelevant.

lojbab
---
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org

The_Carpathia

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Dec 7, 2009, 5:04:33 AM12/7/09
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On Dec 5, 6:21 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You cannot change human nature or the human capacity to overcome
obstacles, whether they be poverty, tyranny, etc. Those that trust
God have divine intervention, as well.

Kenneth W Clifton
http://stores.lulu.com/kenclifton

....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.

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Dec 7, 2009, 6:44:53 AM12/7/09
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"The_Carpathia" <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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=

Kenneth you *do* realize that you are responding to your very own post
there, don't you?


JayPee Vee

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Dec 7, 2009, 11:24:13 AM12/7/09
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On 7 déc, 12:44, <.... tHe_PC_JelLlLy
BeAn!! .! !!! .> wrote:
> "The_Carpathia" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Kenneth W Cliftonhttp://stores.lulu.com/kenclifton

>
> =
>
> Kenneth you *do* realize that you are responding to your very own post
> there, don't you?-

Since he considers that no one is intelligent enough to challenge him,
that's what he's been reduced to...
How pathetic can you get...

JayPee Vee

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Dec 7, 2009, 11:25:15 AM12/7/09
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Is this the kind of platitude one can find in your "books"?
No surprise you're giving them away...

The_Carpathia

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:20:09 PM12/7/09
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Thank you for giving me the plug. The books are Upswing (a
combination of the best from other books), The Christian Superhero
Training Guide, Life is Optional, 30 Days of Providence, The Trinity,
and Eternal Life Can Start Now.....not bad for someone that is a right
wing political agent that is only interested in condemning
others...right?

Kenneth W Clifton
B.S. Religion, Liberty University (thought you'd appreciate that)
http://stores.lulu.com/kenclifton

haiku jones

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:37:39 PM12/7/09
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Whatever became of "777 [or howevermany it was] Things to Do in
Heaven"?


Haiku Jones

JayPee Vee

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Dec 7, 2009, 6:52:38 PM12/7/09
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Anyone can make such "books", moron.
The fact that you're GIVING them speaks volumes...

How about having them published by a real publishing house?

The_Carpathia

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:14:54 PM12/7/09
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Please forgive me for any wrong I have done you. I forgive you, as

The_Carpathia

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:19:14 PM12/7/09
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The publisher still is distributing it, but I changed my focus to more
ministerial/devotional in focus.

JayPee Vee

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Dec 8, 2009, 2:46:39 AM12/8/09
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What are you forgiving me for? For calling you a hypocrite, a liar, an
egomaniac and a pathetic loon?
That's the truth my friend.
God told me to tell you that every day.

BTW, anyone can make such "books", moron.

JayPee Vee

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Dec 8, 2009, 2:54:35 AM12/8/09
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"Lulu" isn't a publisher. Anyone can send his rant there and have it
"published" as a book.
A publisher has a reading commitee, en editor, etc.

Kennie, seriously, get help.
You're totally insane.
You lost all sense of reality.

The_Carpathia

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:56:16 AM12/8/09
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I do not know what I did to offend you, but I ask your forgiveness, as
Jesus commanded me to do...seek peace. Will you reject Christ's
command to forgive and seek reconciliation, as you condemn me without
giving the cause? I will pray that God's love will touch your bitter
heart. Until then, this will be the only reply given to all your
replies.

The_Carpathia

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:57:09 AM12/8/09
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I do not know what I did to offend you, but I ask your forgiveness, as
Jesus commanded me to do...seek peace. Will you reject Christ's
command to forgive and seek reconciliation, as you condemn me without
giving the cause? I will pray that God's love will touch your bitter
heart. Until then, this will be the only reply given to all your
replies.

Kenneth W Clifton
http://stores.lulu.com/kenclifton

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