SCOTUS -> AZ - FUCK YOU !Supreme Court says states may not add citizenship proof for voting !!!

[GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit]

Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>
>
>
> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>

Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?


Voting and buying gun are RIGHTS equally protected.


Guess all those gun laws are gone too.

[RD Sandman]

GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:

>
>
>
> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !

What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and universal
background check to transfer a firearm?

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

Old Air Force adage..The only time you have too
much fuel is when you are on fire!!

[WangoTango]

In article <XnsA1E27477...@216.196.121.131>, rdsandman[remove]
@comcast.net says...

> GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
> news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>
> What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and universal
> background check to transfer a firearm?

It is called cognitive dissonance.

Common among the ultra-liberal or ultra-religious.

[RD Sandman]

WangoTango <Asga...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:MPG.2c2933f0e...@news.east.earthlink.net:

> In article <XnsA1E27477...@216.196.121.131>,
> rdsandman[remove] @comcast.net says...
>> GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
>> news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>
>> What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and
>> universal background check to transfer a firearm?
>
> It is called cognitive dissonance.

Damn, and I just would have referred to it as misplaced progressivism. ;
^)

> Common among the ultra-liberal or ultra-religious.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/17/2013 4:09 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> WangoTango <Asga...@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.2c2933f0e...@news.east.earthlink.net:
>
>> In article <XnsA1E27477...@216.196.121.131>,
>> rdsandman[remove] @comcast.net says...
>>> GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
>>> news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>
>>> What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and
>>> universal background check to transfer a firearm?
>>
>> It is called cognitive dissonance.
>
> Damn, and I just would have referred to it as misplaced progressivism. ;

Commonly known as shit on a stick.

[RD Sandman]

BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
news:C6Kvt.311089$6q1.1...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com:

No, that's a two-bit criminal with a peg-leg.

[Scout]

"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA1E27477...@216.196.121.131...

> GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
> news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>
> What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and universal
> background check to transfer a firearm?

The background check is far more invasive than simply checking a Photo ID.

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:07 -0500, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit
<bus...@asshole.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !

Maybe they'll get the hint after a while. There's not much to do
there and you know what they say about idle minds...

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>
>
>Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?

Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car. and
for the simple reason that the so-called 'right' has been abused.

>
>
>Voting and buying gun are RIGHTS equally protected.
>
>
>Guess all those gun laws are gone too.

Hopefully not

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:26:54 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
>news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>
>What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and universal
>background check to transfer a firearm?

voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.

[Johnny Football]

If you've nothing to hide, why are you so concerned about a background
check? Many jobs require a background check so what's the big deal?

Only those guilty of something will care.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Why fear a photo ID to vote?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>
>>
>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>
> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.

A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
voting and owning a gun.

And neither a driver or business license is a FEDERAL license.

The feds don't ban them. The States control them.

[Johnny Football]

I don't. I just don't think it's a big deal.

[Johnny Football]

well, those a past history figures so they don't apply. They're all 3
pretty dead.

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>
>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.
>
>
>A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
>voting and owning a gun.

owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the home
for protection.

>
>And neither a driver or business license is a FEDERAL license.
>
>The feds don't ban them. The States control them.

so?

I'm missing why you're so apprehensive about background checks and
registration. Makes me wonder what you're hiding.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/17/2013 9:10 PM, Johnny Football wrote:

Why fear a photo ID to vote?

What are Democrats hiding, why are they afraid of a photo ID to vote,
are you stealing votes?

[Johnny Football]

It's really a non-issue from my standpoint. Just another hot button
to get people going.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/17/2013 9:40 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>>
>>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.
>>
>>
>> A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
>> voting and owning a gun.
>
>
> owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the home
> for protection.

Keep and bear arms....


You just never read the constitution did you.


How do you bear arms in your closet?


I have a right bear arms.


Do you have a "right" to drive a car on public property? The
Constitution says I have a "right" to bear arms on public property.


this was fun lets do it again.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

And now we have ObamaCare...

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:58:42 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>On 6/17/2013 9:40 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>>>
>>>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.
>>>
>>>
>>> A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
>>> voting and owning a gun.
>>
>>
>> owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the home
>> for protection.
>
>Keep and bear arms....
>
>
>You just never read the constitution did you.
>

Yes and I also read the SCOTUS opinon on the interpretation.

>
>How do you bear arms in your closet?

Your house only is comprised of a closet?
There will always be the less fortunate.

>
>
>I have a right bear arms.
>

You have a so-called right per the SCOTUS decision.

>
>Do you have a "right" to drive a car on public property? The
>Constitution says I have a "right" to bear arms on public property.

No it does not. read the SCOTUS opinion.

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:00:45 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

You must work for a health insurer. Figures

[Scout]

"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:sDOvt.131925$zH4....@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com...

For that matter since he claims to have noting to hide. Maybe Johnny would
grace us with his legal name and residence.

After all.....he's got nothing to hide right?

It's called PRIVACY Johnny, and I have a right to it.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

NOPE.... I'm just paying attention.


I'm on the 5th year of a 4 year vacation.

I went on a 4 year Vacation when Obama was elected.

I don't intend to work to support a Socialist economy.

I make my way through life in a different way now. NO Job and no reason
to get one. I do what I do.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

NO SCOTUS decision EVER created or decided what my RIGHTS are.


All they can decide is jurisdiction.

>> Do you have a "right" to drive a car on public property? The
>> Constitution says I have a "right" to bear arms on public property.
>
> No it does not. read the SCOTUS opinion.

OPINION?


HHHHmmm..... I'll just read the Constitution and see the actual FACT.

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <3tivr89e6ij8gpvlc...@4ax.com>,
johnny_...@yahoo.com says...

Guess you missed that national news story about the woman in Cincinnati who
voted for Obama eight times, under eight different IDs, during the 2012
election.

Now multiply that by the number os election precincts across the country and
you'll start to see the potential for wide-spread vote fraud.

With Motor Voter anybody can fill out the Mail-in Registration card and get
registered to vote; U.S. citizen or not; as there is no verification of
identity, let alone citizenship, with Motor Voter.

[Busch Lite spent 720 days on vacation reading "Billy the Goat" at his dude ranch]

On 6/17/2013 8:09 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>

Sure it does.

Voting for hug huggers guarantee another school
massacre .

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:04 -0700, Johnny Football
<johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.
>
>
>well, those a past history figures so they don't apply.

ROFLMAO

Oh good. Sandy Hook is history so it doesn't apply.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

That's what Obama said about the people killed at Benghazi because of
him..... that's old news.


In Hillary's immortal words;

"What difference does it make now, anyways."


Just apply Hillary's and Obama's famous words to Sandy Hook and the
school shooting along with all the famous Leftist mass murderers.






--



*Rumination*
#50 - Negotiating with Liberals is like trying to negotiate with a
serial child molester, you have to ask where is middle ground with a
child molester, will you allow them 100 free molestings before they pay
the penalty? Where is middle ground with abortion, do the Liberals
just kill the dark ones or the dumb ones or the ugly ones in the uterus?
Isn't all violence against children inside a uterus and outside equally
disgusting and sick?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/18/2013 10:06 AM, Busch Lite spent 720 days on vacation reading

Elect a Liberal and start more gun free zones where children become easy
targets for the only person with a gun, the bad guy.


Liberals with a handle on logic like that... deserve to be in charge of
your child.

[RD Sandman]

"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:kpo7s2$8mr$1...@dont-email.me:

I am speaking of philophy behind it and it was addressed to GOP.caged
monkeys. I get the idea that is a self description of him.

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

Old Air Force adage..The only time you have too
much fuel is when you are on fire!!

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:jrcvr8546eaamkauc...@4ax.com:

Then, perhaps, you can answer the question.

"What difference [in philosophy] do you really see between photo-ID to

vote and universal background check to transfer a firearm?"

> Only those guilty of something will care.
>

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:mfevr8pne0huqluur...@4ax.com:

Many liberals do. They refer to it as "voter suppression". What votes
are they afraid are being suppressed?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:3tivr89e6ij8gpvlc...@4ax.com:

Then you have no problem with it....is that true?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:spcvr8ppqol2vebm3...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:26:54 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
>>news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>
>>What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and
universal
>>background check to transfer a firearm?
>

> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>

None of the recent mass shootings involved a failed background check.

Cho at Virginia Tech (32 dead) passed his even though he was committed
for observation for stalking a coed.

Loughner in Tucson (6 dead) passed his even though he had been expelled
from Pima College and could not return without a mental professional
certiying he was not a danger to himself or others.

Holmes in Aurora (12 dead) passed his even though he was under care of a
psychiatrist in Denver.

Lanza in Newtown (26 dead) never went through a background check. He
killed his mother and took her guns to school. He was suffering from
autism and Arsperger Syndrome.

What these folks have in common was not the weapons they used (since they
were different) but a lack of information beingo forwarded to NICS. NICS
is the system that contains a database of prohibited possessors. Those
who cannot legally own or purchase a firearm.

Now, in light of that, just which of those incidents above do you think a
universal background check would have prevented?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:ngevr8lk3bs62ervm...@4ax.com:

Then perhaps Cho (dead), Loughner (serving 7 life sentences consecutively
plus 140 years), Holmes (incarcerated and under psychiatric care) and
Lanza (dead) should no longer be used as examples either).

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:3mcvr8t2df98pofo3...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:07 -0500, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit
> <bus...@asshole.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>
>

> Maybe they'll get the hint after a while. There's not much to do
> there and you know what they say about idle minds...
>

Do you have a problem with requiring voters to be citizens in order to
vote in our elections?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:fncvr81u4ta2438qf...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>
>>On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>
>>

>>Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>

> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car. and
> for the simple reason that the so-called 'right' has been abused.

So have business licenses and votes.

>>Voting and buying gun are RIGHTS equally protected.
>>
>>
>>Guess all those gun laws are gone too.
>
> Hopefully not

Which ones do you think work?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:3ievr8p3g6mcs6hrh...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a
RIGHT
>>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>>
>>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.
>>
>>
>>A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
>>voting and owning a gun.
>
>
> owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the home
> for protection.

And just where is that stated? Don't claim Heller since it doesn't
really say that.

>>And neither a driver or business license is a FEDERAL license.
>>
>>The feds don't ban them. The States control them.
>
> so?
>
> I'm missing why you're so apprehensive about background checks and
> registration. Makes me wonder what you're hiding.

Why are you against proof of citizenship to vote?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/18/2013 3:31 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:fncvr81u4ta2438qf...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>
>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car. and
>> for the simple reason that the so-called 'right' has been abused.
>
> So have business licenses and votes.
>
>>> Voting and buying gun are RIGHTS equally protected.
>>>
>>>
>>> Guess all those gun laws are gone too.
>>
>> Hopefully not
>
> Which ones do you think work?

NOT any Federal gun laws, because Congress has no power to make any gun
laws.

It goes back to State and Local laws doesn't it?

Back to the 10th amendment?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/18/2013 3:26 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:spcvr8ppqol2vebm3...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:26:54 -0500, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
>>> news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>
>>> What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and
> universal
>>> background check to transfer a firearm?
>>
>> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>>
>
> None of the recent mass shootings involved a failed background check.
>
> Cho at Virginia Tech (32 dead) passed his even though he was committed
> for observation for stalking a coed.

Stalkers have RIGHTS you know..... ;)

>
> Loughner in Tucson (6 dead) passed his even though he had been expelled
> from Pima College and could not return without a mental professional
> certiying he was not a danger to himself or others.

Just a misunderstanding.

>
> Holmes in Aurora (12 dead) passed his even though he was under care of a
> psychiatrist in Denver.

If they can apply for a government Stipend and get paid for nothing,
they should be able to buy a gun.

>
> Lanza in Newtown (26 dead) never went through a background check. He
> killed his mother and took her guns to school. He was suffering from
> autism and Arsperger Syndrome.

She was a gun owner and that means she deserved to die.

>
> What these folks have in common was not the weapons they used (since they
> were different) but a lack of information beingo forwarded to NICS. NICS
> is the system that contains a database of prohibited possessors. Those
> who cannot legally own or purchase a firearm.
>

Maybe they should lock up crazy people?

> Now, in light of that, just which of those incidents above do you think a
> universal background check would have prevented?

My question is which ones were denied their RIGHT to vote because they
couldn't get a photo ID ?

Did you want them deciding who has our nuclear launch codes?




--



*Rumination*
#55.0.1 - Now we are milking a dead cow.....

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Good to see you think background checks for guns and having an ID to buy
them is just a hot button issue, I was afraid you didn't actually wanted
to support equal treatment of my RIGHTS under the law.


If a voting RIGHT can't be suppressed by such tactics the surely the
RIGHT to buy a personal defense system can't be suppressed.


Thanks for supporting GUN RIGHTS.

[WangoTango]

In article <spcvr8ppqol2vebm3...@4ax.com>,
johnny_...@yahoo.com says...

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:26:54 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
> >news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
> >
> >What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and universal
> >background check to transfer a firearm?
>

> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>

I guess you aren't familiar with the political systems humans employ.

[Scout]

"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:4J2wt.78689$pt1....@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...

Except as restricted by the 2nd Amendment via the 14th Amendment, plus
anything in the State Constitution.

[RD Sandman]

BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
news:4J2wt.78689$pt1....@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com:

Wrong....but why did you think that?

> It goes back to State and Local laws doesn't it?
>
> Back to the 10th amendment?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:46:44 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

Oh, you're a drug dealer. I guess if that works for you...

[Johnny Football]

Not in public, you don't.

My name is Wayne Maynard, temporarily living in Cumberland, MD.

and.... so???

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:51:44 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

Uh, yea it did. You need to read up, boy.

>
>All they can decide is jurisdiction.
>
>>> Do you have a "right" to drive a car on public property? The
>>> Constitution says I have a "right" to bear arms on public property.
>>
>> No it does not. read the SCOTUS opinion.
>
>OPINION?
>
>
>HHHHmmm..... I'll just read the Constitution and see the actual FACT.

Better read the SCOTUS decision. That's where it tells you WHERE you
can have a gun.

[Johnny Football]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:38:04 -0500, Johnny Johnson
<TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> What are Democrats hiding, why are they afraid of a photo ID to vote,
>>> are you stealing votes?
>>
>> It's really a non-issue from my standpoint. Just another hot button
>> to get people going.
>>
>Guess you missed that national news story about the woman in Cincinnati who
>voted for Obama eight times, under eight different IDs, during the 2012
>election.
>
>Now multiply that by the number os election precincts across the country and
>you'll start to see the potential for wide-spread vote fraud.
>
>With Motor Voter anybody can fill out the Mail-in Registration card and get
>registered to vote; U.S. citizen or not; as there is no verification of
>identity, let alone citizenship, with Motor Voter.

I guess everything evens out. Georgie II didn't win the election
either, but he got the Supreme Court bushwacked and they called him
"President". Everything comes around doesn't it?

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:06:44 -0500, "Busch Lite spent 720 days on

vacation reading \"Billy the Goat\" at his dude ranch"

Not sure what a 'hug hugger' is but whatever makes you feel good.

I guess you're saying gun massacres are ok and we should just ignore
them.

[Johnny Football]

Wonder if your spawn had been part of the Columbine or NewTown mess,
would you still feel that way?

[Johnny Football]

to you, it probably doesn't. You have a name like a Nazi and probably
for good reason. They would have laughed at Sandy Hook too.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:04:00 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>On 6/18/2013 10:11 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:04 -0700, Johnny Football
>> <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.
>>>
>>>
>>> well, those a past history figures so they don't apply.
>>
>> ROFLMAO
>>
>> Oh good. Sandy Hook is history so it doesn't apply.
>
>That's what Obama said about the people killed at Benghazi because of
>him..... that's old news.
>
>
>In Hillary's immortal words;
>
>"What difference does it make now, anyways."
>
>
>Just apply Hillary's and Obama's famous words to Sandy Hook and the
>school shooting along with all the famous Leftist mass murderers.

And that makes it ok.

Oh and don't forget all the dead at the hands of George II in Iraq.
All that fussing over his 'weapons of mass destruction" that were
never there.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:15:35 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:jrcvr8546eaamkauc...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:03:57 -0400, "Scout"
>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:XnsA1E27477...@216.196.121.131...
>>>> GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit <bus...@asshole.com> wrote in
>>>> news:6nHvt.78684$1p2....@newsfe25.iad:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>
>>>> What difference do you really see between photo-ID to vote and
>>>> universal background check to transfer a firearm?
>>>
>>>The background check is far more invasive than simply checking a Photo
>>>ID.
>>>
>>
>> If you've nothing to hide, why are you so concerned about a background
>> check? Many jobs require a background check so what's the big deal?
>
>Then, perhaps, you can answer the question.
>
>"What difference [in philosophy] do you really see between photo-ID to
>vote and universal background check to transfer a firearm?"
>
>
>> Only those guilty of something will care.
>>

If you're not guilty of something, then you shouldn't be afraid of a
background check. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to
be..

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:16:52 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>> If you've nothing to hide, why are you so concerned about a
>>>> background check? Many jobs require a background check so what's
>>>> the big deal?
>>>>
>>>> Only those guilty of something will care.
>>>>
>>>Why fear a photo ID to vote?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't. I just don't think it's a big deal.
>>
>
>Many liberals do. They refer to it as "voter suppression". What votes
>are they afraid are being suppressed?

Crooked elections are nothing new. It's how your buddy George II got
into office.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:17:41 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>Why fear a photo ID to vote?
>>>
>>>
>>>What are Democrats hiding, why are they afraid of a photo ID to vote,
>>>are you stealing votes?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> It's really a non-issue from my standpoint. Just another hot button
>> to get people going.
>>
>
>Then you have no problem with it....is that true?

No. Why would I ?

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:26:06 -0500, RD Sandman

You're not going to win this so save your breath. It goes beyond
background checks. That is only a start. Ammo of certain types needs
to be cut off. Then all of your AK 47's AR 15's with just make great
paper weights. It's not that hard to do.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:30:33 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>
>>
>> Maybe they'll get the hint after a while. There's not much to do
>> there and you know what they say about idle minds...
>>
>
>Do you have a problem with requiring voters to be citizens in order to
>vote in our elections?

no. should I ? If you're not a citizen, why would you be voting
anyway?

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:31:38 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:fncvr81u4ta2438qf...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>
>>>
>>>Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>>protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>
>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car. and
>> for the simple reason that the so-called 'right' has been abused.
>
>So have business licenses and votes.
>
>>>Voting and buying gun are RIGHTS equally protected.
>>>
>>>
>>>Guess all those gun laws are gone too.
>>
>> Hopefully not
>
>Which ones do you think work?

The ones not yet in place.

[Johnny Football]

The 2nd Amendment could be changed. The whole Constitution could be
changed. There's just too much money to be made by gun and ammo
manufactures to allow it happen easily. Lives are dispensable. Money
is everything to Americans. All other considerations are secondary.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:33:17 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:3ievr8p3g6mcs6hrh...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a
>RIGHT
>>>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>>>
>>>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.
>>>
>>>
>>>A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
>>>voting and owning a gun.
>>
>>
>> owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the home
>> for protection.
>
>And just where is that stated? Don't claim Heller since it doesn't
>really say that.

It does really say that...
You will please note, verbatim:

(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a
firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for
traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
Pp. 2�53.

>
>>>And neither a driver or business license is a FEDERAL license.
>>>
>>>The feds don't ban them. The States control them.
>>
>> so?
>>
>> I'm missing why you're so apprehensive about background checks and
>> registration. Makes me wonder what you're hiding.
>
>Why are you against proof of citizenship to vote?

I'm not. Did I say it was? I just don't think AZ is the one to run
with it. They're doing it for a totally sleazy, different reason.

[Johnny Football]

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:49:50 -0700, Johnny Football

<johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:11:57 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:04 -0700, Johnny Football
>><johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.
>>>
>>>
>>>well, those a past history figures so they don't apply.
>>
>>ROFLMAO
>>
>>Oh good. Sandy Hook is history so it doesn't apply.
>
>to you, it probably doesn't.

We know it doesn't to you. It's "past history."

What's the cause of you memory problems, anyway? Old age, or drug
abuse?

Or both?

>You have a name like a Nazi [..]

Really? What kind of names did Nazi's have? Tell us, since you seem to
be so knowledgeable.

Was your real name Johnn Fußball when you snuck into this country?

[chuckle]

"well, those a past history figures so they don't apply. "

-Johnn Fußball, trying so hard to forget

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:50:59 -0700, Johnny Football

<johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:04:00 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
><ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/18/2013 10:11 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:04 -0700, Johnny Football
>>> <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> well, those a past history figures so they don't apply.
>>>
>>> ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> Oh good. Sandy Hook is history so it doesn't apply.
>>
>>That's what Obama said about the people killed at Benghazi because of
>>him..... that's old news.
>>
>>
>>In Hillary's immortal words;
>>
>>"What difference does it make now, anyways."
>>
>>
>>Just apply Hillary's and Obama's famous words to Sandy Hook and the
>>school shooting along with all the famous Leftist mass murderers.
>
>And that makes it ok.
>
>Oh and don't forget all the dead at the hands of George II in Iraq.

"well, those a past history figures so they don't apply. "

-Johnn Fu�ball, trying so hard to forget

[Scout]

<snip>

[Slight rewind on the topic here, and not really replying to any specific
message.]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the motor-voter laws are federal. right?

Which is the whole issue between federal/state authority in this matter.

Then we take note that the only truly federal election is that for the US
President and all other elections are state level or below in that the
election results are determined purely intrastate and thus NO federal
jurisdiction applies.

So, seems to me that AZ could allow motor voter applicants to only be able
to vote only for the Presidential election....and require everyone who wants
to vote in any state elections (US Senators, US Representatives, state and
local government) to comply with STATE voting requirements. Which could well
include a requirement that they prove they meet the requirements of being an
eligible voter as set by the state.

After all, I don't think the federal government has the power to tell states
how to run state elections or the requirements of voters in those elections
as long as it doesn't violate the franchise requirements set by the
Constitution. Nor could they set the application requirements for voters in
state elections.

Problem solved, mostly.

AZ would be in compliance with the federal voting laws in the only federal
election, and that is the extent of the federal authority in this matter.

Or....they could alter the manner in which the election is run and they vote
for a panel of state officials who will elect the delegates to the Electoral
College. Making the vote of the panel of state officials a purely internal
state matter. After all, the STATE determines how the delegates will be
selected.

More than one way to skin this cat.

(now having stirred the pot...)

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <oqv1s81jmerl05j4e...@4ax.com>, Maynard G Krebs
<johnny_...@yahoo.com> says...

>
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:38:04 -0500, Johnny Johnson
> <TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> What are Democrats hiding, why are they afraid of a photo ID to vote,
>>>> are you stealing votes?
>>>
>>> It's really a non-issue from my standpoint. Just another hot button
>>> to get people going.
>
>> Guess you missed that national news story about the woman in
>> Cincinnati who voted for Obama eight times, under eight different IDs,
>> during the 2012 election.
>>

>> Now multiply that by the number of election precincts across the

>> country and you'll start to see the potential for wide-spread vote fraud.
>>
>> With Motor Voter anybody can fill out the Mail-in Registration card and
>> get registered to vote; U.S. citizen or not; as there is no verification of
>> identity, let alone citizenship, with Motor Voter.
>
>
> I guess everything evens out. Georgie II didn't win the election
> either, but he got the Supreme Court bushwacked and they called
> him "President". Everything comes around doesn't it?
>

Guess you only read the "DNC Talking Points for Bitchy Bush-Hating Losers
Flowchart and Manual;" didn't you, Maynard?

Otherwise you would know that if AlGore had carried his own state of Tennessee,
the Florida count would have only been a footnote in the AlGore Presidential
Library and Green Energy Huckster Library."

But the voters of TN knew what a loser they had on their hands and voted
accordingly.

Now, Maynard: what does that Manual say you are to use to explain how George W
beat Kerry?

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <kpr1p1$1ci$1...@dont-email.me>, Scout <me4guns@verizon,net says...

I _love_ it! :D

I can hear the knashing of VLILLLDM teeth from here. :)

[Scout]

"Johnny Johnson" <TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2c2acf9c1...@news.eternal-september.org...

From you JJ, that is high praise indeed.

See any loopholes, flaws or oversights in my analysis and logic?

Oh, PS, by President, I meant the President/VP ticket.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/18/2013 9:38 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>
> [Slight rewind on the topic here, and not really replying to any
> specific message.]
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but the motor-voter laws are federal. right?
>
> Which is the whole issue between federal/state authority in this matter.
>
> Then we take note that the only truly federal election is that for the
> US President and all other elections are state level or below in that
> the election results are determined purely intrastate and thus NO
> federal jurisdiction applies.
>

There are powers delegated in the constitution that allows for the
determining when and where elections may be held.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

People died from gas, so they were there.... the only question today is
where did they go?

The UN teams couldn't account for all the gas or all the nuclear
machinery and supplies.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

I'm sure I would, and if your spawn died defending your constitutional
freedoms would you be ready to give those RIGHTS away so easy?


Do you like that a looking glass view of reality?

[Gray Guest]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:tuv1s89ct5nk1r4s2...@4ax.com:

I wonder if you have a functional brain.

--
Refusenik #1

Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.

Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:46:49 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:

>Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:tuv1s89ct5nk1r4s2...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:07:22 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>><ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/18/2013 10:06 AM, Busch Lite spent 720 days on vacation reading
>>>"Billy the Goat" at his dude ranch wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2013 8:09 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>>> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure it does.
>>>>
>>>> Voting for hug huggers guarantee another school
>>>> massacre .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Elect a Liberal and start more gun free zones where children become easy
>>>targets for the only person with a gun, the bad guy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Liberals with a handle on logic like that... deserve to be in charge of
>>>your child.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Wonder if your spawn had been part of the Columbine or NewTown mess,
>> would you still feel that way?
>
>I wonder if you have a functional brain.

He might have at one time, but that was in the past, so.....

"well, those a past history figures so they don't apply. "

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Who voted to make schools a gun free zone? Voting also sends kids to
war.... Kids are dead from those votes.


Those voters killed those kids as surely as anyone "anyone other than"
the one we know was pointing the gun. Because that one, was the actual
killer.


Are you trying to hide from your part in the deaths? We can guess how
you voted.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

> Pp. 2�53.

>>
>>>> And neither a driver or business license is a FEDERAL license.
>>>>
>>>> The feds don't ban them. The States control them.
>>>
>>> so?
>>>
>>> I'm missing why you're so apprehensive about background checks and
>>> registration. Makes me wonder what you're hiding.
>>
>> Why are you against proof of citizenship to vote?
>
> I'm not. Did I say it was? I just don't think AZ is the one to run
> with it. They're doing it for a totally sleazy, different reason.
>

Then a photo ID to prove citizenship and identity is OK and sufficient
for both buying a gun or casting your vote? Equal under the law, correct?


Too bad more Liberals aren't rational, or is this just a rare lucid
moment for you?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/18/2013 8:48 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:06:44 -0500, "Busch Lite spent 720 days on

> vacation reading \"Billy the Goat\" at his dude ranch"

> <bu...@lite.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2013 8:09 PM, Johnny Football wrote:

>>> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>>>
>>
>>

>> Sure it does.
>>
>> Voting for hug huggers guarantee another school
>> massacre .
>>
>

> Not sure what a 'hug hugger' is but whatever makes you feel good.

Looks like a typo for "gun hugger"



SO be gentle you may be eating your own kind here.



But yo get back to the point, voting for a gun free zone is what got 20
kids killed.



I would think that TEACHERS and students would want to boycott schools
that have an imaginary gun free environment, until there are armed
security there to protect them from the real world bad guys.





*Rumination*
#72 - What if your next abortion is the one fetus that would evolve into
a new human adult life that is immune to cancer? When is evolution NOT
really evolution.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/18/2013 8:45 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:51:44 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2013 11:10 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:58:42 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2013 9:40 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>>>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also a RIGHT
>>>>>>>> protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT like
>>>>>> voting and owning a gun.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the home
>>>>> for protection.
>>>>

>>>> Keep and bear arms....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You just never read the constitution did you.
>>>>
>>> Yes and I also read the SCOTUS opinon on the interpretation.
>>>>
>>>> How do you bear arms in your closet?
>>>
>>> Your house only is comprised of a closet?
>>> There will always be the less fortunate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a right bear arms.
>>>>
>>> You have a so-called right per the SCOTUS decision.
>>
>>
>> NO SCOTUS decision EVER created or decided what my RIGHTS are.
>>
>
> Uh, yea it did. You need to read up, boy.

SCOTUS can deny their own jurisdiction of any law. The rest of what
they say after that is opinion.

If they do have jurisdiction then they are allowed by the constitution
to hear a case..... but they don't give anyone any RIGHTS, they have
zero power to change a law or create any RIGHTS or POWERS.


They follow the laws. Well they're supposed to follow the laws.... but
no one seems to force that point these days.

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:m402s89jjm6mt55qt...@4ax.com:

Not what I asked. Should I assume you aren't smart enough to understand
the question or to answer it?

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

Old Air Force adage..The only time you have too
much fuel is when you are on fire!!

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:p602s8lup38vhvvh7...@4ax.com:

I don't have a buddy George. I'm not even Republican.

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:d802s81l26qjdi6q2...@4ax.com:

Don't know. I have asked you a couple times and you just dodge the
questions rather than answer them.

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:a902s8tmmnoartfgs...@4ax.com:

I'm not trying to win anything. I am asking you some questions which
apparently you can't answer. Sorry.

It goes beyond
> background checks. That is only a start. Ammo of certain types needs
> to be cut off

Why? Do they emit evil rays and make people do things they wouldn't
normally do?

. Then all of your AK 47's AR 15's with just make great
> paper weights. It's not that hard to do.

What do you think that will accomplish? In 2011 there were 373 people
killed by rifles of ALL types. AK clones and AR15 are a small subset of
that. So how much difference do you think they will make? Please be
specific.

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:ad02s81qcrtgk05o4...@4ax.com:

They do. Why do you have a problem with people having to prove
citizenship in order to vote? A photo ID will do that.

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:ff02s8d07bl930app...@4ax.com:

Like which ones and how will they work?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:dk02s8h53i8s5sump...@4ax.com:

Do you understand what those words mean? It gives one example of a
traditional lawful purpose, it does NOT limit it to that one purpose.
So, no, it really does not say that is the only place it applies.

>>>>And neither a driver or business license is a FEDERAL license.
>>>>
>>>>The feds don't ban them. The States control them.
>>>
>>> so?
>>>
>>> I'm missing why you're so apprehensive about background checks and
>>> registration. Makes me wonder what you're hiding.
>>
>>Why are you against proof of citizenship to vote?
>
> I'm not. Did I say it was? I just don't think AZ is the one to run
> with it. They're doing it for a totally sleazy, different reason.

What reason is that? Have you heard or seen that reason written anywhere
other than the Daily Kos or Huffy Post?

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:7ov1s8leqinlb501h...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:51:44 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/17/2013 11:10 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:58:42 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2013 9:40 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:26:20 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/17/2013 9:08 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:19 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>>>>> <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/17/2013 1:07 PM, GOP: Caged monkeys flinging shit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then how can they require proof for buying a gun which is also
>>>>>>>> a RIGHT protected by the Amendments in the Constitution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same reason you need a license to open a business or drive a
>>>>>>> car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A car on the road and business license are NOT a protected RIGHT
>>>>>> like voting and owning a gun.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> owning a gun isn't a 'protected right' except to have one in the
>>>>> home for protection.
>>>>

>>>> Keep and bear arms....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You just never read the constitution did you.
>>>>
>>> Yes and I also read the SCOTUS opinon on the interpretation.
>>>>
>>>> How do you bear arms in your closet?
>>>
>>> Your house only is comprised of a closet?
>>> There will always be the less fortunate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a right bear arms.
>>>>
>>> You have a so-called right per the SCOTUS decision.
>>
>>
>>NO SCOTUS decision EVER created or decided what my RIGHTS are.
>>
>
> Uh, yea it did. You need to read up, boy.
>>

>>All they can decide is jurisdiction.
>>
>>>> Do you have a "right" to drive a car on public property? The
>>>> Constitution says I have a "right" to bear arms on public property.
>>>
>>> No it does not. read the SCOTUS opinion.
>>
>>OPINION?
>>
>>
>>HHHHmmm..... I'll just read the Constitution and see the actual FACT.
>
> Better read the SCOTUS decision. That's where it tells you WHERE you
> can have a gun.
>

No it doesn't. You better re-read it....this time with comprehension.

[RD Sandman]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:lr02s8h7mqlsb6otv...@4ax.com:

No, it can kill thousands.....look at the toll for just Iraq or
Afghanistan.

[Gray Guest]

Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:m402s89jjm6mt55qt...@4ax.com:

> If you're not guilty of something, then you shouldn't be afraid of a
> background check. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to
> be..
>

Spoken like a true thugocrat.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 6/19/2013 3:05 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:ad02s81qcrtgk05o4...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:30:33 -0500, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Another anti-American law from AZ struck down !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they'll get the hint after a while. There's not much to do
>>>> there and you know what they say about idle minds...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have a problem with requiring voters to be citizens in order to
>>> vote in our elections?
>>
>> no. should I ? If you're not a citizen, why would you be voting
>> anyway?

To get welfare and food stamps and free ObamaCare....

[BeamMeUpScotty]

> Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:m402s89jjm6mt55qt...@4ax.com:
>
>> If you're not guilty of something, then you shouldn't be

....having your rights violated should you?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

> Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:m402s89jjm6mt55qt...@4ax.com:
>
>> If you're not guilty of something, then you shouldn't be

....having your rights violated should you?

Tell that to people trying to buy a gun.

[Scout]

"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:kZbwt.204682$6r1....@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...

But not how voters will be registered.

Nor does it give the federal government any control over state elections
other than as those Constitutional provisions apply.

[Johnny Football]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:11:00 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>
>>>HHHHmmm..... I'll just read the Constitution and see the actual FACT.
>>
>> Better read the SCOTUS decision. That's where it tells you WHERE you
>> can have a gun.
>>
>
>No it doesn't. You better re-read it....this time with comprehension.

Yes it does and you'll do well not to argue with me.

[Johnny Football]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:46:49 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:

>Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:tuv1s89ct5nk1r4s2...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:07:22 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>><ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/18/2013 10:06 AM, Busch Lite spent 720 days on vacation reading
>>>"Billy the Goat" at his dude ranch wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2013 8:09 PM, Johnny Football wrote:
>>>>> voting doesn't kill 20 kids at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure it does.
>>>>
>>>> Voting for hug huggers guarantee another school
>>>> massacre .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Elect a Liberal and start more gun free zones where children become easy
>>>targets for the only person with a gun, the bad guy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Liberals with a handle on logic like that... deserve to be in charge of
>>>your child.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Wonder if your spawn had been part of the Columbine or NewTown mess,
>> would you still feel that way?
>
>I wonder if you have a functional brain.

You conveniently evaded my question. Case proven.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:04:10 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:49:50 -0700, Johnny Football
><johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:11:57 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:04 -0700, Johnny Football
>>><johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>well, those a past history figures so they don't apply.
>>>

>>>ROFLMAO
>>>
>>>Oh good. Sandy Hook is history so it doesn't apply.
>>

>>to you, it probably doesn't.
>
>We know it doesn't to you. It's "past history."
>
>What's the cause of you memory problems, anyway? Old age, or drug
>abuse?
>
>Or both?
>
>>You have a name like a Nazi [..]
>
>Really? What kind of names did Nazi's have? Tell us, since you seem to
>be so knowledgeable.

Names just like yours
>
>Was your real name Johnn Fu�ball when you snuck into this country?

Snuck? who said anything about sneaking? I don't SNEAK anywhere. I
gave my name on here yesterday, if it's really important to you.

[Johnny Football]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:05:03 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:50:59 -0700, Johnny Football
><johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:04:00 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
>><ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>>
>>>On 6/18/2013 10:11 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:04 -0700, Johnny Football
>>>> <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It kills millions when you elect a Mao or Stalin or a Saddam.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> well, those a past history figures so they don't apply.
>>>>
>>>> ROFLMAO
>>>>
>>>> Oh good. Sandy Hook is history so it doesn't apply.
>>>

>>>That's what Obama said about the people killed at Benghazi because of
>>>him..... that's old news.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Hillary's immortal words;
>>>
>>>"What difference does it make now, anyways."
>>>
>>>
>>>Just apply Hillary's and Obama's famous words to Sandy Hook and the
>>>school shooting along with all the famous Leftist mass murderers.
>>
>>And that makes it ok.
>>
>>Oh and don't forget all the dead at the hands of George II in Iraq.
>

>"well, those a past history figures so they don't apply. "

> -Johnn Fu�ball, trying so hard to forget

says the resident Nazi

[Johnny Football]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:58:21 -0500, RD Sandman

There's no difference and I don't have a problem with either.

[Johnny Football]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:59:12 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>> I don't. I just don't think it's a big deal.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Many liberals do. They refer to it as "voter suppression". What votes
>>>are they afraid are being suppressed?
>>
>> Crooked elections are nothing new. It's how your buddy George II got
>> into office.
>>
>
>I don't have a buddy George. I'm not even Republican.

Oh, you're a gun crazy Independent?

[Johnny Football]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:00:19 -0500, RD Sandman

<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:d802s81l26qjdi6q2...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:17:41 -0500, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Why fear a photo ID to vote?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What are Democrats hiding, why are they afraid of a photo ID to vote,
>>>>>are you stealing votes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It's really a non-issue from my standpoint. Just another hot button
>>>> to get people going.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Then you have no problem with it....is that true?
>>
>>
>> No. Why would I ?
>>
>
>Don't know. I have asked you a couple times and you just dodge the
>questions rather than answer them.

I'm not a Demo and I'm not afraid of photo checks or gun backgrounds.
Only you thugs are.