..The 60 foot list of Republican Bush's scandals.
Harry Hope
http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2007/11/hughs-scroll.html
Hugh's Scroll
By Philip Munger
A progressive named Hugh, started making a list of Bush scandals late
last summer. http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_list.html
It got distributed in its infancy at the blog firedoglake.
People in that community love challenges, so Hugh didn't even have to
ask for help.
Initially, the list entries were very brief.
Most were only long enough so that the people at firedoglake, who are
very familiar with Bush's shortcomings, crimes, misdemeanors - and
worse - could easily understand the entries.
But Hugh edited each entry by adding enough information so that even a
mainstream media reporter would understand what event or action the
entry implied or recognized.
All of these entries - there are now 281 (now 293) - are worse than a
president getting a hummer from another adult under the Oval Office
desk.
Most are breaches of the public trust, many violations of Bush's Oath
of Office.
The rest are crimes and War Crimes.
I decided to make Hugh's List into a scroll.
Set in 10-point Helvetica, with no upper or lower page margins, it is
about 60 feet long.
I unfurled it this afternoon in the lobby of the Arts Building at the
University of Alaska Anchorage.
Just trying to get the students here closer to the reality of
politics.
__________________________________________________
Harry
B1ackwater
But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
George Grapman
> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
>
> But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
>
A question conservatives will never answer:
Who were the two presidents in the last 50 years with the most high
level officials convicted of felonies?
Adam West
"B1ackwater" <b...@barrk.net> wrote in message
news:477276ac...@news.east.earthlink.net...
> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
Then provide it or STFU, dumbass. Thanks.
JoeC
> http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2007/11/hughs-scroll.html
>
> Hugh's Scroll
>
> By Philip Munger
>
It looks bad when you focus on one side. What about the scandals of
Feinstein funneling money to her husband's company or Jefferson with
frozen money or Clinton raising money from improvised Chinese dish
washers. Corruption is on both sides and we should do something about
it when we find it. Your argument is you don't like republican policies
so you try to say the other side is a bunch of crooks. There is
corruption all around and that is a poor reason to choose who has the
better ideas. I don't like the politics of raising taxes government
give aways (moment toward socialism). I want to defeat the countries
enemies keep taxes low and the government out of regulating my life. On
that basis I oppose Democrats and support Republicans because I agree
with them on more issues and can't find a single issue I agree with
democrats.
Winston Smith, American Patriot
> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
>
> But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
A better reply from a person who pretends to be sapient is that Bush's
scandal- and criminal-plagued administration already makes the all-time
worst three president's list, and may even be the all-time worst. and it
really doesn't matter what he does in his last year.
Raymond
> http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2007/11/hughs-scroll.html
>
> Hugh's Scroll
>
> By Philip Munger
>
>
> A progressive named Hugh, started making a list of Bush scandals late
>
> It got distributed in its infancy at the blog firedoglake.
>
> People in that community love challenges, so Hugh didn't even have to
> ask for help.
>
> Initially, the list entries were very brief.
>
> Most were only long enough so that the people at firedoglake, who are
> very familiar with Bush's shortcomings, crimes, misdemeanors - and
> worse - could easily understand the entries.
>
>
> But Hugh edited each entry by adding enough information so that even a
> mainstream media reporter would understand what event or action the
> entry implied or recognized.
>
> All of these entries - there are now 281 (now 293) - are worse than a
> president getting a hummer from another adult under the Oval Office
> desk.
>
> Most are breaches of the public trust, many violations of Bush's Oath
> of Office.
>
> The rest are crimes and War Crimes.
>
> I decided to make Hugh's List into a scroll.
>
>
> Set in 10-point Helvetica, with no upper or lower page margins, it is
> about 60 feet long.
>
> I unfurled it this afternoon in the lobby of the Arts Building at the
> University of Alaska Anchorage.
>
> Just trying to get the students here closer to the reality of
> politics.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
> Harry
It is no accident that many of the rhetorical strategies employed by
George W. Bush originated with Napoleon Bonaparte, a notorious
spinmeister and confidence man. At least Bonaparte looked to the
future, seeing clearly the coming breakup of the Ottoman Empire and
the likelihood that European Powers would be able to colonize its
provinces. Bonaparte's failure in Egypt did not forestall decades of
French colonial success in Algeria and Indochina, even if that era of
imperial triumph could not, in the end, be sustained in the face of
the political and social awakening of the colonized. Bush's
neocolonialism, on the other hand, swam against the tide of history,
and its failure is all the more criminal for having been so
predictable.
Pitching the Imperial Republic
Bonaparte and Bush on Deck
By Juan Cole
Copyright 2007 Juan Cole
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v63/__show_article/_a000063-000449.htm
John Galt
"George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
news:FGvcj.34844$Pv2....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
Nixon 1st, obviously, then Reagan, I suppose, although Clinton can't be far
behind Reagan. He had quite a list.
However, the only president I'm aware of with *none* is our current
president.
JG
Mani Deli
Mani Deli
Which shows where this prick's head is at.
Want the real news instead of the average truncated media bullshit
filled with non-news drivel?
Go to http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ & http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.truthdig.com/ And follow the links.
Do it now while the fascists are still planning to take over the
Internet!
qwerty
"John Galt" <whoisj...@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:13n5ihv...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> news:FGvcj.34844$Pv2....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>> B1ackwater wrote:
>>> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
>>>
>>> But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
>>>
>>
>> A question conservatives will never answer:
>>
>> Who were the two presidents in the last 50 years with the most high
>> level officials convicted of felonies?
>
> Nixon 1st, obviously, then Reagan, I suppose, although Clinton can't be
> far behind Reagan. He had quite a list.
A list of the members of Clinton's administration who were convicted of
felonies? How many members of Clinton's administration were convicted of
felonies? Not many! We're not talking about alleged cronies, or alleged
business partners but actual members of this Presidential administration who
were convicted. The only one I can think of Cisneros for lying the FBI
about how much money he paid his mistress. Now it wasn't illegal to give
money to the mistress, just lying about the amount given to her to the FBI.
David Moffitt
"Mani Deli" <ma...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:50m5n3tu8mdmt1ie2...@4ax.com...
Godwin's Law: prov.
“As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” There is a tradition in many
groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned
the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.
|
|
Peder B. Pels
Taking over the internet under guise of "Net Neutrality" afaik is a pet
rock of the Democrats. The Republicans just wants the big telcos to do
all the traffic shaping they want.
--
regards , Peter B. P. http://titancity.com/blog , http://macplanet.dk
Washington D.C.: District of Criminals
"I dont drink anymore... of course, i don't drink any less, either!
John Galt
"qwerty" <nos...@all.noway.com> wrote in message
news:sXAcj.2940$lo5...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
I believe that Clinton probably led Reagan on high-level indictments but not
convictions, but quite frankly, this entire topic is kind of a waste of
time. People interested in these sorts of stats are always trying to get to
some sort of blanket statement that one party is more corrupt than the
other, and quite frankly, that's not a particularly productive exercise --
both parties are laden with corruption, and "keeping score" is a bit
counterproductive, IMO.
JG
qwerty
>
> "qwerty" <nos...@all.noway.com> wrote in message
> news:sXAcj.2940$lo5...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> "John Galt" <whoisj...@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
>> news:13n5ihv...@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FGvcj.34844$Pv2....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> B1ackwater wrote:
>>>>> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
>>>>>
>>>>> But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A question conservatives will never answer:
>>>>
>>>> Who were the two presidents in the last 50 years with the most high
>>>> level officials convicted of felonies?
>>>
>>> Nixon 1st, obviously, then Reagan, I suppose, although Clinton can't be
>>> far behind Reagan. He had quite a list.
>>
>> A list of the members of Clinton's administration who were convicted of
>> felonies? How many members of Clinton's administration were convicted of
>> felonies? Not many! We're not talking about alleged cronies, or alleged
>> business partners but actual members of this Presidential administration
>> who were convicted. The only one I can think of Cisneros for lying the
>> FBI about how much money he paid his mistress. Now it wasn't illegal to
>> give money to the mistress, just lying about the amount given to her to
>> the FBI.
>
> I believe that Clinton probably led Reagan on high-level indictments but
> not convictions,
Well then substitute "indicted" for "conviction" and I believe you'll come
up with same number for Clinton's administration.
George Grapman
years investigating Cisneros and came up with nothing. For the final two
years of the investigation no witnesses were called and no subpoenas
were issued.
George Grapman
> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> news:FGvcj.34844$Pv2....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>> B1ackwater wrote:
>>> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
>>>
>>> But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
>>>
>> A question conservatives will never answer:
>>
>> Who were the two presidents in the last 50 years with the most high
>> level officials convicted of felonies?
>
> Nixon 1st, obviously, then Reagan, I suppose, although Clinton can't be far
> behind Reagan. He had quite a list.
Really? name a simple high level Clinton administration official with
a felony conviction.
>
> However, the only president I'm aware of with *none* is our current
> president.
Guess you forgot about Scooter Libby and David Safavian.
>
> JG
>
>
>
John Galt
No. Neither were "high level" officials. The VP's Chief Gopher does not
become "high level" just out of political expediency.
JG
George Grapman
By the way,care to name the high level Clinton officials who were
convicted of felonies?
Mani Deli
<whoisj...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>I believe that Clinton probably led Reagan on high-level indictments but not
>convictions, but quite frankly, this entire topic is kind of a waste of
>time.
--for fascist Republican types
> People interested in these sorts of stats are always trying to get to
>some sort of blanket statement that one party is more corrupt than the
>other, and quite frankly, that's not a particularly productive exercise --
--for fascist Republican types at the moment
>both parties are laden with corruption, and "keeping score" is a bit
>counterproductive, IMO.
--for fascist Republican types at the moment
>JG
>
Want the real news instead of the average truncated media bullshit
filled with non-news drivel?
Go to http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ & http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.truthdig.com/ And follow the links.
Why would our enemies want us to stop the most important thing we are
doing
successfully: bankrupting ourselves?
Mani Deli
Yes, but Rush Limbaugh didn't report that so Banana Republicans don't
know about it.
George Grapman
Limbaugh claimed that Democrats in congress were trying to suppress
the report. He never explained how the legislative branch could do this.
I do not think he mentioned the report when it was issued.
Rich Travsky
> | <whoisj...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
> | >"George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> | >>> Hmmm ... almost as long as Clintons list ............*
> | >>>
> | >>> But he's still got about a year. GO "W" ! You can do it !!! :-)
> | >>
> | >> A question conservatives will never answer:
> | >>
> | >> Who were the two presidents in the last 50 years with the most high
> | >> level officials convicted of felonies?
> | >
> | >Nixon 1st, obviously, then Reagan, I suppose, although Clinton can't be
> far
> | >behind Reagan. He had quite a list.
> | >
> | >However, the only president I'm aware of with *none* is our current
> | >president.
> | >
> |
> | Want the real news instead of the average truncated media bullshit
> | filled with non-news drivel?
> | Go to http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ & http://www.truthout.org/
> | http://www.truthdig.com/ And follow the links.
> |
> | Do it now while the fascists are still planning to take over the
> | Internet!
>
> Godwin's Law: prov.
> “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
> involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” There is a tradition in many
> groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned
> the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.
Neither Hitler nor nazis were mentioned - except by you.
Fascists also included Spain and Italy in those days.
RT
John Galt
Is "high level" defined by clearance? I thought it to be a relatively
concrete term limited to the Presidents cabinet, the VP, the head of the
NSA, and perhaps a few similiar.
> By the way,care to name the high level Clinton officials who were
> convicted of felonies?
Not particularly, because I've already passed my attention span on this sort
of puerile and contrived metric. I am of the opinion that the entire
political establishment is a den of theives that come in two flavors --
those get caught and those that don't, and party "groupies" who think that
there's a lick of difference between the Republican and Democratic crime
families are part of the problem.
JG
Rich Travsky
RT
John Galt
"Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:47731D28...@hotmMOVEail.com...
No. Is the VP's chief of staff seem "high level" to you?
JG
Clave
> I am of the opinion that the entire political establishment is a den of
> theives that come in two flavors -- those get caught and those that
> don't, and party "groupies" who think that there's a lick of difference
> between the Republican and Democratic crime families are part of the
> problem.
A tired, cowardly and incorrect canard used by the intellectually dishonest
and lazy.
Jim
Rich Travsky
Yes. You're forgetting how involved Chickenhawk Cheney has been.
RT
Rich Travsky
Scooby was cleared to receive classified information.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/14/libby.trial/index.html
The defense and prosecution rested Wednesday in the perjury trial of I. Lewis
"Scooter" Libby.
...
The judge also blocked the defense team from letting CIA briefers testify in detail
about the classified material, which included issues Libby was immersed in in 2003,
when the scandal over the identification of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative broke.
The analysts were expected to testify about national security matters that may have
caused Libby to misspeak to investigators, because he couldn't recall information.
...
During testimony in the months leading up to Libby's indictment, two CIA analysts
who
briefed Libby on national security matters apparently remembered very little of what
they said to him.
...
John Galt
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:tsCdnZgrMPHCu-7a...@cablespeedwa.com...
Opinion stated as fact.
JG
John Galt
"Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
I was thinking in more general terms, that could be applied to any
presidency.
JG
Clave
Lacking contrary evidence, they're functionally equivalent.
Jim
Robbing Gator
>
> I believe that Clinton probably led Reagan on high-level indictments but
> not convictions, but quite frankly, this entire topic is kind of a waste
> of time. People interested in these sorts of stats are always trying to
> get to some sort of blanket statement that one party is more corrupt than
> the other, and quite frankly, that's not a particularly productive
> exercise -- both parties are laden with corruption, and "keeping score"
> is a bit counterproductive, IMO.
that's what you say now, since you republicans have been proven dirtier than
any administration in history
Robbing Gator
lies,
distortions,fabrications, swiftboating and other assorted low class
hillbilly techniques commensurate with your low class intellect,
so why not spare us the typical gooberisms and shut the hell up
Robbing Gator
lying, sneaky,underhanded,distorting, swiftboating, cowardly lions, I mean
hillbillies,
led by the great and powerful wizard who turns everything he touches into
shit ?
Robbing Gator
according to your fabricating, dishonest and dishonorable hillbilly ass,
hey el goober, apparently you didn't get the latest memo ;
loud mouth, gutless, lying, men's room addicted conservatives, republicans,
and hillbillies have become blasé,
find a new sewer to operate in, the white house and congress are about to be
disinfected to remove all traces
of the slimy, low class,diseased hillbilly vermin who have fouled them,
America, and our glorious history for the last 7
years
Rich Travsky
> "Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> > John Galt wrote:
> >> "Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > John Galt wrote:
> >> >> >> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
Except this is not a general case. It is quite specific.
RT