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Obama Never Claimed He Was A Civil Libertarian

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Bret Cahill

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Jun 19, 2013, 12:40:38 PM6/19/13
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Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
believe he was a civil libertarian?

If someone claims he's a civil libertarian you need to run some tests
to determine if that is the case, because every fraud, swindler and
hypocrite claims he's for liberty. The converse is not true.

The only civil libertarian holding high office is Justice Ginzberg.


Bret Cahill





BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 19, 2013, 1:57:28 PM6/19/13
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On 6/19/2013 12:40 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
> believe he was a civil libertarian?

NO, Obama led me to believe that he was a Socialist Authoritarian...
and it turns out I was correct.




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> Bret Cahill
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Bret Cahill

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Jun 19, 2013, 4:33:43 PM6/19/13
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> > Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
> > believe he was a civil libertarian?
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> NO

Then there's been no deception other than looneytarians who should be
called servitudetarians.


Bret Cahill

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 19, 2013, 4:56:15 PM6/19/13
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One deception is NOT all deception.... Because one thing wasn't lying
doesn't mean all things he does say are NOT lies.


Truth is Obama lied by saying he's a Capitalist and we all know he's a
Socialist and Redistribution type.

There's a shit load of deception, you simply chose the one subject that
was beyond the pale of belief so Obama never tried to use that
particular lie.


Harold Burton

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Jun 19, 2013, 5:25:27 PM6/19/13
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In article
<fc024c6d-64ae-4e1d...@v5g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
> > > believe he was a civil libertarian?


> > NO, Obama led me to believe that he was a Socialist Authoritarian...
> > and it turns out I was correct.


> Then there's been no deception other than looneytarians who should be
> called servitudetarians.



snicker

Bret Cahill

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Jun 19, 2013, 5:43:24 PM6/19/13
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> > Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
> > believe he was a civil libertarian?

> NO

Then there's been no deception other than looneytarians who should be
called servitudetarians.


Bret Cahill


Dare

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Jun 20, 2013, 9:33:39 AM6/20/13
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in message
news:CVowt.405937$Yp1.3...@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 6/19/2013 4:33 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>> Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
>>>> believe he was a civil libertarian?
>>>
>>> NO
>>
>> Then there's been no deception other than looneytarians who should be
>> called servitudetarians.
>>
>> Bret Cahill
>>
>
> One deception is NOT all deception.... Because one thing wasn't lying
> doesn't mean all things he does say are NOT lies.

Is Obama more of a liability than an asset to the Democratic Party now?
Seems even the base has lost confidence in him...and his credibility.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 20, 2013, 10:02:30 AM6/20/13
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5 Years of Lying has lost any credibility Obama has.... NOW even some
of the Democrat non thinkers are asking themselves questions but they'll
forget all about it in a few days so it's like that stupid RESET BUTTON
with Russia, the slate will be wiped clean in a short while thanks to
short Democrat memories.


Get rid of them all because you just can't fix stupid.

Bret Cahill

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Jun 20, 2013, 11:58:09 AM6/20/13
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> >>>> Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
> >>>> believe he was a civil libertarian?
>
> >>> NO
>
> >> Then there's been no deception other than looneytarians who should be
> >> called servitudetarians.
>
> >> Bret Cahill
>
> > One deception is NOT all deception.... Because one thing wasn't lying
> > doesn't mean all things he does say are NOT lies.
>
> Is Obama more of a liability than an asset to the Democratic Party now?
> Seems even the base has lost confidence in him...and his credibility.

They should have known all along from the Patriot Act and the
political climate generally. The jingoistic legacy media had been
gush hyping "9/11 changed EEEEEVERything" 24/7/52 for years. As
everyone knows "9/11 changed EEEEEVERything" meant the war on terror
was more important than the constitution, the economy or wasting a few
trillion on mideast despotisms.

Obama never claimed that he was changing everything and Obama
certainly never indicated that he was changing the spying that started
under BushCo/legacy media noise. If he had he would have touted his
changes at a formal event. Half of Americans don't care too much
about NSA spying anyway.

Has anyone even heard of any arrests of non terrorist criminals
because of the spying, i.e., a meth dealer getting busted by local law
enforcement tipped off by NSA?

If no one knew of any 4th Amend. violations then why should it be a
high priority for Obama?

Once again, if you want the 4th Amendment and other rights to be in
full effect then you must _first_ ensure that the First Amendment is
fully operational.

Jefferson and Tocqueville were clear on this all important truth.

Tocqueville mentions countries that are free with only one right,
freedom of speech. It's not like any of the other amendments mean
anything w/o freedom of speech.

The only public figure alive today who seems to understand this all
important truth is Justice Ginzberg.


Bret Cahill






BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:15:31 PM6/20/13
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On 6/20/2013 11:58 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> Obama never claimed that he was changing everything and Obama
> certainly never indicated that he was changing the spying that started
> under BushCo/legacy media noise. If he had he would have touted his
> changes at a formal event. Half of Americans don't care too much
> about NSA spying anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KrefKCaV8m4#t=84s



Obama says he's Fundamentally changing America and the *WORLD*

Listen carefully at the time Stamp of about 84 seconds.

Bret Cahill

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:22:22 PM6/20/13
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> > Obama never claimed that he was changing everything and Obama
> > certainly never indicated that he was changing the spying that started
> > under BushCo/legacy media noise.  If he had he would have touted his
> > changes at a formal event.  Half of Americans don't care too much
> > about NSA spying anyway.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KrefKCaV8m4#...
>
> Obama says he's Fundamentally changing America and the *WORLD*

No one interpreted that as "changing everything."


bc

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:39:02 PM6/20/13
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"We will change this country and we will change the world"
-Obama-


The world is everything isn't it?


And NOT simply change but "FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE" America.


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c. Of great significance or entailing major change: a book that
underwent fundamental revision.
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a. Of or relating to the component of lowest frequency of a periodic
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3. Physics The lowest frequency of a periodically varying quantity or of
a vibrating system.






BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:59:09 PM6/20/13
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On 6/20/2013 12:22 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
You mean NO one on "MSNBC" ?

--



*Rumination*
#16 - I'm not a genius, but I know how to hire them.

Bret Cahill

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Jun 20, 2013, 1:11:38 PM6/20/13
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> >>> Obama never claimed that he was changing everything and Obama
> >>> certainly never indicated that he was changing the spying that started
> >>> under BushCo/legacy media noise.  If he had he would have touted his
> >>> changes at a formal event.  Half of Americans don't care too much
> >>> about NSA spying anyway.
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KrefKCaV8m4#...
>
> >> Obama says he's Fundamentally changing America and the *WORLD*
>
> > No one interpreted that as "changing everything."
>
> > bc
>
> "We will change this country and we will change the world"
> -Obama-
>
> The world is everything isn't it?

There's still the moon and mars.

> And NOT simply change but "FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE" America.

If GOP bigots don't have a rethink then the USA will fundamentally
change to a 1 party country.


Bret Cahill


BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 20, 2013, 1:32:42 PM6/20/13
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On 6/20/2013 1:11 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>>> Obama never claimed that he was changing everything and Obama
>>>>> certainly never indicated that he was changing the spying that started
>>>>> under BushCo/legacy media noise. If he had he would have touted his
>>>>> changes at a formal event. Half of Americans don't care too much
>>>>> about NSA spying anyway.
>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KrefKCaV8m4#...
>>
>>>> Obama says he's Fundamentally changing America and the *WORLD*
>>
>>> No one interpreted that as "changing everything."
>>
>>> bc
>>
>> "We will change this country and we will change the world"
>> -Obama-
>>
>> The world is everything isn't it?
>
> There's still the moon and mars.

And those changes are NOT really my problem, BUT if you send Obama there
to change them, I'm good with that.

Can he head out of the moon tomorrow?

Harold Burton

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Jun 20, 2013, 10:26:51 PM6/20/13
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In article
<b4a5d7d9-e052-49c5...@rh15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Did Obama ever suggest _anything_ that would lead anyone to ever
> > > believe he was a civil libertarian?
>
> > NO, Obama led me to believe that he was a Socialist Authoritarian...
> > and it turns out I was correct.

>
> Then there's been no deception other than looneytarians who should be
> called servitudetarians.



If you say so.


snicker

Werner

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Jun 21, 2013, 7:17:01 AM6/21/13
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Then you need to understand voters are responsible for the condition of the country.
http://www.EmdIt.info

Deja Vu

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Jun 21, 2013, 7:36:05 AM6/21/13
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obama came across as a moderate when in reality he was a closed socialist.
he will go down in history as the worst president and his central planning policies will destroy the dollar and reduce the states to a developing nation status
learn how to speak chinese now!
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