In California, the GOP is dying a slow, sad death - But there is something to celebrate!!

[Ramon F. Herrera]

In California, the Republican Party is dying a slow, sad death - But
there is something to celebrate!!

... Arizona is next, followed by Texas (the crown jewel)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/23/us/politics/california-republicans-seek-a-turnaround.html?_r=1&hp
http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/california

-Ramon

"Revenge is a dish better served in the voting booth" -Moi
http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:cba3fbbe-d0e3-47cc...@j4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

Where do you plan on living after you've destroyed the greatest gift to
mankind in the history of the world, you stupid third-world wet back
motherfucker?

We gotta have another war, folks.

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:

> We gotta have another war, folks.

Bring it on!!!

http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf

My granny can kick you rosy bottom.

-Ramon

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message

news:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

"Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"

"Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
concludes: "It's basically over for America."

http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf

You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of mankind,
you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 9:50 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

Actually, the sons of Pedro the indocumentado (so-called anchor
babies) will be courting and impregnating your daughters, therefore
your brown grandchildren will be getting:

- Your Money
- Your House
- Your Brains

-Ramon

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 9:50 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

Canada.

-Ramon

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
news:508d3a89-f709-4e84...@z11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

My daughters wouldn't touch one of you little pigmy fuckers. Now, answer the
question, you sniveling third-world inferior. Where do you plan on living
after you have turned the greatest nation in the history of mankind into a
bombed out third-world ass hole?

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:09 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:508d3a89-f709-4e84...@z11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

It is evident that we immigrants have a lot more faith in the greatest
nation in the history of mankind than many native born (Far Right
Wingers). Those will have to be replaced.

Question for the readers:

(1) What is America's First principle?

(2) What is America's greatest power???

-Ramon

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:09 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:

> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:508d3a89-f709-4e84...@z11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

> On Jul 23, 9:50 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in
> > messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>
> > > We gotta have another war, folks.
>
> > > Bring it on!!!
> > >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
> > > My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>
> > "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>
> > "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
> > concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>
> > You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
> > living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
> > mankind,
> > you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>
> > -Eddie Haskell
> > Actually, the sons of Pedro the indocumentado (so-called anchor
> > babies) will be courting and impregnating your daughters, therefore
> > your brown grandchildren will be getting:
> > - Your Money
> > - Your House
> > - Your Brains
>

> My daughters wouldn't touch one of you little pigmy fuckers.

Some other daughters will.

-Ramon

[kady]

Eh. Don't worry about it.

Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.

What happens?

Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.

The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom

Kady

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:b752c15d-0a2e-40c6...@p1g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

You're running CA straight into the ground and Hussein, the lawless fuckwit
that's bankrupting the fuck out of the country enjoys 70% approval among you
third-world rejects. There's a reason every county you people control is a
third-world bombed out shit hole, and you're going to bring the same thing
here. Why do you want to destroy America and live in a fuckin' garbage dump?

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/23/2012 09:50 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
> >news:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>
> >   > We gotta have another war, folks.
>
> >> Bring it on!!!
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>
> >> My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>
> > "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>
> > "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
> > concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>
> > You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
> > living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of mankind,
> > you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>
> > -Eddie Haskell
>
> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>

> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated
> dependent population in places like Texas at some point
> becomes large enough there and in other states that there's
> no way that a party that *doesn't* simply support all
> handouts to the wastrels can get elected.

You just insulted 51+ million (and rapidly growing) Hispanics and then
you wonder why your party its going the way of the Whigs.

The unemployment rate among the undocumented is very low, almost
inexistent, compared to their documented counterparts.

-Ramon

---------------------------------------------------

"Census Bureau Reports Hispanic-Owned Businesses Increase at More Than
Double the National Rate"

http://tinyurl.com/2ejxkoz

---------------------------------------------------

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:09 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:508d3a89-f709-4e84...@z11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

If that thought helps you sleep better at night, BE OUR GUEST!!!

"No, señor Eddie, I swear! Me and my children only want to sweep
floors and pick fruit. We don't value education, that's for greengos
only! My children are definitely not interested in courting your
daughters, much less impregnating them, either!! Voting? What's
that???"

-Pedro El Indocumentado
(with his fingers crossed behind his back)

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:692ce5f7-8a3b-485d...@o7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

Oh, so after you wipe your ass on America and run it into the ground you're
going move on the Canada and destroy their country. Where do you plan on
living after that? In a sewer pit, your native habitat?

Park Avenue, after Herrera and his low IQ marauders take over America:

http://theoriens.com/wp-content/uploads/children_of_third_world_12.jpg

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:29 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:692ce5f7-8a3b-485d...@o7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

> On Jul 23, 9:50 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in
> > messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>
> > > We gotta have another war, folks.
>
> > > Bring it on!!!
> > >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
> > > My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>
> > "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>
> > "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
> > concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>
> > You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
> > living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
> > mankind,
> > you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>
> > -Eddie Haskell
> > Canada.
>
> Oh, so after you wipe your ass on America and run it into the ground you're
> going move on the Canada and destroy their country. Where do you plan on
> living after that?

Australia.

-Ramon

[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cZdPr.238527$eR7.1...@en-nntp-16.dc1.easynews.com...

So in other words, run. I ran from my first house when the city I once lived
was taken over by Negroes. A once great place to live is now a 75% Negro
crime ridden shit hole and the schools are now a joke. Lost my ass on my
house because a city in mass exodus doesn't hold property values too well. I
want reparations.

Now you're telling me that I'll have to run from my country to escape the
destruction of quality of life the Negro and Mexican brings? You just
blithely sit there and say, oh well, they'll destroy the country so we'll
just have to move to frickin' Hong Kong?

Nah, I want a war.

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:8a43e0e4-8240-4a84...@o7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

Answer the damn question. Where do you plan on living after you have turned

the greatest nation in the history of mankind into a bombed out third-world

ass hole? Why do you want to live in shit? Stupid? Inferior? Third-world
mentality? Need a reason lay up on your ass digging trough the garbage
whining about whitey?

-Eddie Haskell

[kady]

I don't give a shit --- it's fact. The demographic that you're depending
on to "turn Texas blue" is one that has the highest dropout rate in the
galaxy. If somebody gets pissed because I said it (and YOU know it's
true as well, you fact-dodging piece of shit) life's tough.

If "my party" gets the national shaft for telling the truth, then so be
it. Better to serve in Heaven then rule in Hell.

>
> The unemployment rate among the undocumented is very low, almost
> inexistent, compared to their documented counterparts.

Meaning what? That employed high school dropouts working on cash or
minimum wage AREN'T on food stamps, and their kids AREN'T on CHIPS or
school free lunch programs?

Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT part
(which you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your "majority" will
last when the government who promised all the cookies runs out of them.

>
> -Ramon
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> "Census Bureau Reports Hispanic-Owned Businesses Increase at More Than
> Double the National Rate"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ejxkoz
>
> ---------------------------------------------------

God, I should hope so. Law of small numbers. Should be quadruple.

Kady

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:ec4bf395-fb6b-4070...@h9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

> "No, se�or Eddie, I swear! Me and my children only want to sweep

> floors and pick fruit. We don't value education, that's for greengos
> only! My children are definitely not interested in courting your
> daughters, much less impregnating them, either!! Voting? What's
> that???"

> -Pedro El Indocumentado
> (with his fingers crossed behind his back)

Answer the damn question. Where do you plan on living after you have turned

the greatest nation in the history of mankind into a bombed out third-world

[kady]

Like, a war with real fighting? The problem with that is that civil wars
lower standards of living for everyone, not just the losers.

Even if you win, your kids still lose. Sometimes you just gotta fold
'em; four more years of this moron MIGHT get us to that point; if the
regressives were ever to get all three houses under a no filibuster
rule, the damage would be unfixable.

Kady

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> God, I should hope so. Law of small numbers. Should be quadruple.

Blacks aren't there, and neither are Asians.

According to the SBA, Latina-owned businesses are doing very well,
much better than gringa-owned business.

You don't seem to realize that the richest man in the world is Latino,
and there are MANY like him in the US.

You can rest assured that the owners of these horses (acquaintances of
mine) are NOT on welfare:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/sports/othersports/24polo.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7380774&page=1#.UA1zm6PN58E

Do you have an idea who handles the US-Latin America trade? Ever been
to Miami?

-Ramon

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:4f1ec643-8d77-419a...@i8g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

Boy, you hate it when the truth is spoken out loud, don't you? The fact of
the matter is that you don't get the Hispanic vote by appealing to a sense
of civic duty or fiscal responsibility. No, you get the black and Hispanic
vote by promising them government goodies and wiping your ass on the rule of
law until the country collapses both fiscally and sociality, and that's
EXACTLY what you're doing to CA and not only that, you crow about it and
tell us that TX is next.

Again, where in the fuck do you plan on living after you've destroyed
America and turned it into a third world shit hole?

> The unemployment rate among the undocumented is very low, almost
> inexistent, compared to their documented counterparts.

And yet if a politician proposed raising the minimum wage you'd run to his
loving arms and vote for him. That's because you're mentally deficient.
Incapable of what it takes to create a first world country. Now, get your
boyfriend to pack your shit and go back south of the border where you
belong.

Oh, and as a parting gift, the quality of your life will declined in direct
proportion to the decline of the white population in this country. That's a
FACT. Why do you actually WANT to live in shit?

Oh, that's right. Stupid low IQ immoral third-world..

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT
> part (which you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your
> "majority" will last when the government who promised all the
> cookies runs out of them.

I support Economic Freedom, Competition and Capitalism, you do not.

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce

[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:2kePr.534381$Xo4....@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...

Woo hoo!

> The demographic that you're depending on to "turn Texas blue" is one that
> has the highest dropout rate in the galaxy. If somebody gets pissed
> because I said it (and YOU know it's true as well, you fact-dodging piece
> of shit) life's tough.

Hell yeah!

> If "my party" gets the national shaft for telling the truth, then so be
> it. Better to serve in Heaven then rule in Hell.

You go girl!

>> The unemployment rate among the undocumented is very low, almost
>> inexistent, compared to their documented counterparts.
>
> Meaning what? That employed high school dropouts working on cash or
> minimum wage AREN'T on food stamps, and their kids AREN'T on CHIPS or
> school free lunch programs?

Broke it off in his ass!

> Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT part (which
> you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your "majority" will last
> when the government who promised all the cookies runs out of them.

Exactly! Once the looting is over he'll find himself living in a third-world
shit hole just like from where he came.

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:ea17a126-9a84-490e...@k13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

You won't have the money to get there, and they sure as hell wouldn't let
you in anyway. So it looks like your condemned to living in the shit you
create. Why do you want to live in shit?

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The demographic that you're depending

> on to "turn Texas blue" [...]

You have nobody else to blame but yourselves. It didn't have to be
this way, my dear!. I can see you encouraging Mr. Haskell. I am
printing his posts (and YOUR approval of them) in order to distribute
them to the barrios.

-Ramon

ps: Would you be a dear and co-sing the post below? - I have hundreds
like those. Univision would love to see them.

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Newsgroups: misc.survivalism, rec.crafts.metalworking,
talk.politics.guns, alt.politics, sac.politics
From: azjohn <hab...@nothere.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:14:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Obama didn't release his college transcripts. Why should
Romney release his tax returns?

On 7/17/2012 12:58 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:

> On Jul 17, 1:58 am, "Bill Gaffney" <bgaff...@earthlink.nut> wrote:
> > Maybe Obama got his "degree" the same way Martin Luther King did.
> > He plagiarized his work.

> Then you wonder why Blacks and Latino folks (plus Asians, Jews, Gays)
> stick together against your hatred.

> -Ramon

We know why they stick together. They butt fuck each other. Besides,
they are incompetent and uneducated parasites. They stick together to
suck the life out of America.

Ramon, take you bimbo, and your little greasers and go back to your
third world shit hole. Maybe someone will appreciate you there.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.politics, alt.politics.liberalism,
alt.politics.immigration
From: Fact Attack <ilp3...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:30:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: U.S. and Venezuela pledged more than $1 billion each to
Haiti and have delivered nothing

[referring to Haitian babies:]

God I hope a hurricane comes and wipes all those ugly babies out to
sea and drowns them all.
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[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ktePr.534382$Xo4.4...@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...

Not in the long run. Once we win we throw out what's left of the Negro and
Mexican leaches and America will experience a rebirth.

> Even if you win, your kids still lose.

They're going to lose anyway with the power crazed Hussein and the democrats
spending us into oblivion.

> Sometimes you just gotta fold 'em; four more years of this moron MIGHT get
> us to that point; if the regressives were ever to get all three houses
> under a no filibuster rule, the damage would be unfixable.

If they ever get the SC kady bar the door. They'll jury rig the system to
make sure the country is relegated to one party rule until the country dies.

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
> grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
> economic freedom:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>
> Kady

I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
Churches).

We are considering making you honorary member of this organization,
our pride and joy:

http://www.ushcc.com/

Bienvenida, Kady!!!

-Ramon

ps: See if you can spot the crappy pinko commies here:
http://www.ushcc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.viewPage&pageId=513&parentID=558

[deadrat]

Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
bankruptcy here is medical bills?

Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:d813357f-ee62-40b9...@j4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The demographic that you're depending
> on to "turn Texas blue" [...]

> You have nobody else to blame but yourselves. It didn't have to be
> this way, my dear!.

Yes it did. They only way to get the third-world Latino vote is the same way
you get the Negro vote. You promise them goodies and to hell with any appeal
to any sense of civic duty or fiscal responsibility. If republicans played
that game the country would end twice as fast. The more you supposedly win
the deeper in shit you'll be living. You just can't help yourself. That's a
fact that know yourself but just can't admit.

> I can see you encouraging Mr. Haskell. I am
> printing his posts (and YOUR approval of them) in order to distribute
> them to the barrios.

-Ramon

> ps: Would you be a dear and co-sing the post below? - I have hundreds
> like those. Univision would love to see them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Newsgroups: misc.survivalism, rec.crafts.metalworking,
> talk.politics.guns, alt.politics, sac.politics
> From: azjohn <hab...@nothere.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:14:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: Obama didn't release his college transcripts. Why should
> Romney release his tax returns?

> On 7/17/2012 12:58 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:

> On Jul 17, 1:58 am, "Bill Gaffney" <bgaff...@earthlink.nut> wrote:
> > Maybe Obama got his "degree" the same way Martin Luther King did.
> > He plagiarized his work.

> Then you wonder why Blacks and Latino folks (plus Asians, Jews, Gays)
> stick together against your hatred.

> -Ramon

> We know why they stick together. They butt fuck each other. Besides,
> they are incompetent and uneducated parasites. They stick together to
> suck the life out of America.

Dead on the money. Exactly right.

-Eddioe haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:60c2af5e-0029-4563...@t20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

Hussein and the democrats are destroying America and you support them 70%.
That's all anyone needs to know.

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

news:f8b97b8b-a8d0-485f...@u2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT
> part (which you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your
> "majority" will last when the government who promised all the
> cookies runs out of them.

> I support Economic Freedom, Competition and Capitalism, you do not.

Hahahahaha!!!

That's another thing about you people. You lie a lot. You support Hussein
and the democrats and they are at utter war with every bit of that.

Damn, you people are stupid.

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 11:33 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:

> Hussein and the democrats are destroying America
> and you support them 70%. That's all anyone needs to know.

Simple: YOUR definition of "America" is different from mine and most
Americans (the good people, God bless them!).

YOU are on you way OUT. America will be the better for it.

-Ramon

ps: Kady? Hello? You were backing up Mr. Haskell... Hola?????

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

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On Jul 23, 11:33 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:

> Hussein and the democrats are destroying America
> and you support them 70%. That's all anyone needs to know.

> Simple: YOUR definition of "America" is different from mine and most
> Americans (the good people, God bless them!).

> YOU are on you way OUT. America will be the better for it.

You're definition of America is not America. It's a third world impoverished
socialist nation ruled by men as opposed to the rule of law. That's why you
cheered when Hussein abolished congress and wiped his ass on the
constitution with his amnesty decree.

Why don't you go live in one of your bombed out shit holes instead of trying
to turn this country into one? There's no way to get through to you. You
don't have the intellectual capacity or morals. You don't understand America
and you have no idea what made it wealthy and great. You want to take a
nation founded on the rule of law and limited government and turn it into a
all powerful centralized government under the rule of man. You know, just
like you created all over the fucking world?

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

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On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
> grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
> economic freedom:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>
> Kady

> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!!

You people lie a lot. That's another problem. Our system of government was
made for a moral people, and you ain't it.

-Eddie Haskell

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 10:58 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > God, I should hope so. Law of small numbers. Should be quadruple.
>
> Blacks aren't there, and neither are Asians.

<snore>

Let me remind you of your original post, where you were spiking the
football for something you think might happen in a couple of decades in
Texas. If Texas goes blue, it will NOT be because of successful Hispanic
businesspeople, since (a) they will be vastly outnumbered by the
lower-income hispanic demographic, and (b) all businesspeople of color
vote less consistently for the Dims than their low-income kinfolk.

Here in Houston, we are very familiar and comfortable with successful
Hispanic entrepeneurs. Many of them are involved with the Tea Party and
Republican politics. There are no racial qualities that prevent
Hispanics from succeeding in a free market society, only sociological
ones, like the tendency of the low-income groups to assign a low value
to education.

Kady

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 11:03 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT
> > part (which you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your
> > "majority" will last when the government who promised all the
> > cookies runs out of them.
>
> I support Economic Freedom, Competition and Capitalism, you do not.

If you support the redistribution of wealth on any scale other than that
of the basic safety net, then your claim to the above is a sham.

But, if you actually DO support those, why vote for Obama? He threw the
segment of the Dem party that supported free markets (the DLC) under the
bus.

The Dems of today are not the Dems of Clinton's time.

Kady

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 11:17 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The demographic that you're depending
> > on to "turn Texas blue" [...]
>
> You have nobody else to blame but yourselves.

Let's repeat: If Texas becomes a state that is politically controlled by
the lowest income quintile, then it's not worth living in; and if the US
becomes a country that's politically controlled by the lowest income
quintile, it's not a country worth living it. I've lived in India (which
is a country controlled politically by the poor) and I know what it
looks like.

Under those circumstances, the country that people want desperately to
come to will be gone. Be careful what you wish for.

Therefore, I can't lose; either way I win. YOU, OTOH, can very much
lose, either way.

It didn't have to be
> this way, my dear!. I can see you encouraging Mr. Haskell. I am
> printing his posts (and YOUR approval of them) in order to distribute
> them to the barrios.

Waste your time however you like. I spent the first decade of my life
advocating for the effective education of Hispanic children; my masters
thesis was on the subject. If all that good work can be thrown under the
bus simply because I support jobs rather than welfare, then the place is
shot to hell anyway.

There is no handout that even comes close to the value of a job.

Kady

[Eddie Haskell]

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Gee, how the hell can that be with Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP and the myriad
of other government programs and free medical malls dotting the landscape?
Are all your programs utter fucking failures? Could it be that these
programs are mostly responsible for the skyrocketing costs? And what will
Husseincare do about costs? Answer: Nothing but higher premiums, less access
rationing and death panels.

Let's try it this way, shit-fer-brains. What would happen to price of food
if instead of food stamps we merely had the grocer send the bill on to the
government?

He won't get it, folks. He's a democrat and therefore too stupid. Not one
clue how economics works.

> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.

Somalia is a shit hole for the same reason all Negro nations, towns and
cities are bombed out shit holes. Stupid backward and immoral. That's why
they vote 90% democrat.

Thanks for your fuckwitted DNC talking point though.

-Eddie Haskell

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 11:24 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
> > grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
> > economic freedom:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
> >
> > Kady
>
> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
> Churches).

Liar. I never said anything about immigration. You don't know my position.

Now we see what kind of messages you "take to the barrio". Bullshit ones.

Kady

[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On 07/23/2012 11:03 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT
>> > part (which you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your
>> > "majority" will last when the government who promised all the
>> > cookies runs out of them.
>>
>> I support Economic Freedom, Competition and Capitalism, you do not.
>
> If you support the redistribution of wealth on any scale other than that
> of the basic safety net, then your claim to the above is a sham.
>
> But, if you actually DO support those, why vote for Obama? He threw the
> segment of the Dem party that supported free markets (the DLC) under the
> bus.
>
> The Dems of today are not the Dems of Clinton's time.

He claims to support all the above and yet supports Hussein who is at war
with all of it. So, is he lying, stupid or both?

-Eddie Haskell

[Bill Graham]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> In California, the Republican Party is dying a slow, sad death - But
> there is something to celebrate!!
>
> ... Arizona is next, followed by Texas (the crown jewel)
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/23/us/politics/california-republicans-seek-a-turnaround.html?_r=1&hp
> http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/california
>
> -Ramon
>
> "Revenge is a dish better served in the voting booth" -Moi
> http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif

The Republican Party died in California many years ago, but Arizona and
Texas? - I don't think so. Unless it is taken over by the Tea Party.... We
will rise again!!

[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On 07/23/2012 11:17 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The demographic that you're depending
>> > on to "turn Texas blue" [...]
>>
>> You have nobody else to blame but yourselves.
>
> Let's repeat: If Texas becomes a state that is politically controlled by
> the lowest income quintile, then it's not worth living in; and if the US
> becomes a country that's politically controlled by the lowest income
> quintile, it's not a country worth living it. I've lived in India (which
> is a country controlled politically by the poor) and I know what it looks
> like.
>
> Under those circumstances, the country that people want desperately to
> come to will be gone. Be careful what you wish for.
>
> Therefore, I can't lose; either way I win. YOU, OTOH, can very much lose,
> either way.

Exactly, if he gets what he thinks is a "win" he loses.

We call that stupid here in the first world.

-Eddie Haskell

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> > -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ramon needs to sit back and watch what happens in a few days when Cruz
beats the fuck out of Dewhurst. Cruz is supported by the vast majority
of Texans no matter what color they are.

[Eddie Haskell]

"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Dumb ass.

-Eddie Haskell

[kady]

A rating of free markets requires people who understand free markets.

> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
> bankruptcy here is medical bills?

There are over 40 different variables; why individuals declare
bankruptcy isn't one of them. We get docked because of regulation,
obstacles to business startup, and tax system irregularities that
decrease efficiency.

>
> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.

And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
lawless state.

Pitiful.

Kady

[Bill Graham]

Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > God, I should hope so. Law of small numbers. Should be quadruple.
>
> Blacks aren't there, and neither are Asians.
>

> According to the SBA, Latina-owned businesses are doing very well,
> much better than gringa-owned business.
>
> You don't seem to realize that the richest man in the world is Latino,
> and there are MANY like him in the US.
>
> You can rest assured that the owners of these horses (acquaintances of
> mine) are NOT on welfare:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/sports/othersports/24polo.html
> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7380774&page=1#.UA1zm6PN58E
>
> Do you have an idea who handles the US-Latin America trade? Ever been
> to Miami?
>
> -Ramon

The people who do well in business are the ones who accept individual
responsibility for themselves and not the ones who live off the government
dole, whether they are Latinos or not. But do you understand that they are
following the principles extolled and backed by the Republican oarty when
they do this? The socialist democrats would have them all on the government
dole if they had their way. It is a policy designed to destroy free
enterprise and individual entrepeneurship. How can you extoll the virtues of
starting and operating one's own business, and still call yourself a good
Democrat? - This doesn't make sense to me.

[Eddie Haskell]

"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Do you believe in the rule of law and limited government? If so how is it
that the left has you smearing your own side, you pathetic, worthless,
gutless cowardly fucking idiot?

Goddamn, we don't need enemies..

Sniveling yella-bellied fucking coward. The left owns the MSM and public
perception so you play to it like a little chickenshit. Flap your elbows and
dance around for us, chicken boy.

Bock bock bock ba-cock!

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Simple, democrats dole out the freebies and he's bought and paid for. All
else is a lie. It's the third-world way.

It's like we always hear about blacks and their conservative values and yet
they always vote democrat 90%. Why? See above,.

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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SMACK!

-Eddie Haskell

[Bill Graham]

Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:44 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > Give it a rest and address the REST of the post, the IMPORTANT
> > part (which you snipped) which seeks to discuss how long your
> > "majority" will last when the government who promised all the
> > cookies runs out of them.
>
> I support Economic Freedom, Competition and Capitalism, you do not.
>

> -Ramon

But the Republican Party supports those things. At least they do on paper.
If they don't always follow through, it's not because of their underlying
philosophy. More likely its because of corruption, but this is true of both
parties. They are both corrupted by money, which they use to buy votes.

[Eddie Haskell]

"kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On 07/23/2012 11:24 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
>> > grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
>> > economic freedom:
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>> >
>> > Kady
>>
>> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
>> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
>> Churches).
>
> Liar. I never said anything about immigration. You don't know my position.

You're against illegal immigration which means that in fascist democrat-ese
you are a racist and are against immigration.

-Eddie Haskell

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

I suggest you, as a good "American", go see the movie 2016: Obama's
America. Then come back and give us your slant.

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jul 23, 11:00 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> No, you get the black and Hispanic
> vote by promising them government goodies

Can't speak for my Black amigos, but we Latinos are not asking for
freebies. Just a few green cards (*).

They will make their millions on their own, thank you very much.

To bad you don't even understand, let alone believe in capitalism.

-Ramon

(*) About 8 million, but who is counting? What's a few Green Cards
between friends???

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 12:08 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Liar. I never said anything about immigration.
> You don't know my position.

You said: "I don't necessarily do everything the US Chamber tells me
to do" - Or words to that effect.

Do you agree with US businesses (and churches) on immigration???

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
For the 112th Congress (2011), the Chamber will:

• Continue to push for comprehensive immigration reform that:
increases security; has an earned pathway to legalization for
undocumented workers already contributing to our economy, provided
that they are law-abiding and prepared to embrace the obligations and
values of our society

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The U.S. Chamber’s Plan for Immigration Reform
Immigration Policy Priorities for 2012

• Immigration reform should accomplish the following goals: provide a
pathway to legal status for undocumented workers currently in the
United States.

http://www.uschamber.com/issues/immigration

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
and, for those Far Righties who despise Big Business, this is the
official position of Medium and Small Businesses:

http://www.immigrationworksusa.org/

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then, this is the position of Fortune, The Economist, etc.

http://www.renewoureconomy.org
http://www.renewoureconomy.org/sites/all/themes/pnae/img/membership.pdf

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I sincerely hope that my fellow believers in Free Enterprise among the
readership support the position on immigration and lobbying by the US
Chamber of Commerce.

-Ramon

ps:


-------------------------------------------------------------

U.S. Chamber of Commerce Statement on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

There is no question that the U.S. immigration system is broken. There
are an estimated 10-12 million undocumented migrants in the United
States, and deporting them would be the equivalent of removing the
population of the state of Ohio — not a realistic option. As a
country, we are facing an aging population and a severe shortage of
workers to fill essential jobs when U.S. workers are not available.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce recognizes that our immigration system is
broken. To fix it, a comprehensive approach is needed because it is
easier to enforce laws that make sense and are workable.

The Chamber supports legislative action that:

* Ensures that all workers enjoy the same labor law protections. Only
by bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows can we protect
them from unscrupulous employers who might exploit them, undermining
the vast majority of employers who pay a fair wage.

[...]

http://tinyurl.com/7kt479l

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 12:28 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8yfPr.208037$xK2.1...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 07/23/2012 11:24 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>> On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
>>> > grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
>>> > economic freedom:
>>> >
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>>> >
>>> > Kady
>>>
>>> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
>>> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
>>> Churches).
>>
>> Liar. I never said anything about immigration. You don't know my position.
>
> You're against illegal immigration which means that in fascist democrat-ese
> you are a racist and are against immigration.

Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism, these days.

Kady

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

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On Jul 23, 11:00 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> No, you get the black and Hispanic
> vote by promising them government goodies

> Can't speak for my Black amigos, but we Latinos are not asking for
> freebies. Just a few green cards (*).

> They will make their millions on their own, thank you very much.

> To bad you don't even understand, let alone believe in capitalism.

If any of that were true you'd be a republican. You vote democrat for
freebies and then lie about it because you don't want to admit it. Simple as
that.

Herrera: Damn, he's got my number. How does he do it?

-Eddie Haskell

[Bill Graham]

How am I "smearing my own party principles"? I believe in indeividual
responsibility, and don't want the government to put people on the dole and
steal fr4om those who have to give tpo the bums. That is the way I was
raised by a very Republican father. Tell me where I have stated otherwide,
either on this forum or elsewhere. I worked and saved and invested in
Ameriucan business all of my life. I respect people who do that and don't
live off the government. In my experience the Larino community does exactly
that. They come here to have a better life, and they work like hell for it.
It's the hippie bums living down under the freeway underpasses that are
happy living off the government hand-outs. These are the ones I would like
to see shipped out to Mexico. (or anywhere else other than here) Why is this
a reversal of my Republican principles?

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
these days.
>
> Kady

I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA, then.

(1) NOBODY supports open borders.
(2) NOBODY supports illegal immigration.
(3) NOBODY is asking for amnesty.
(4) NOBODY is offering for amnesty.

-Ramon

-------------------------------------

The narcos are adamantly against open borders, for they would cause
the price of their product to plummet.

Illegal immigrants -following a fine American tradition since 1776-
are against open borders.

Seinfeld: "When my gradfather walked through Ellis Island, he moved
the barrier behind him, closing the entrance while shouting to the
people in line: "This is it! I am in! Now all of you foreigners GO
BACK to your countries!!! Get the hell out of America!!"

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 12:37 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:28907957-596a-4552...@p1g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

> On Jul 23, 11:00 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>   > No, you get the black and Hispanic
>   > vote by promising them government goodies
>
> > Can't speak for my Black amigos, but we Latinos are not asking for
> > freebies. Just a few green cards (*).
> > They will make their millions on their own, thank you very much.
> > To bad you don't even understand, let alone believe in capitalism.
>

> If any of that were true you'd be a republican.

> You vote democrat for freebies.

All I am getting is a free sticker: "I love Obamacare" - That's it.

See actual reason below...

One wonders: Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and
distilled?

The only ones qualified to make a statement are the victims of
prejudice, persecution and racism themselves. Let's ask them, shall
we?

Here's their response:

- Black folks voted for Obama, by a 98% margin.
- Jewish folks voted for Obama, by a 75% margin.
- Hispanic folks voted for Obama, by a 66% margin.
- Asian folks voted for Obama, by a 63% margin.
- Gay folks voted for Obama, by an unknown margin.

-Ramon

ps: Oh, I almost forgot the largest minority of all:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/GOP-Hates-Women-and-Feeling-is-Mutual.jpg
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-04-01/swing-states-poll/53930684/1

[Bill Graham]

And assuming that this is true, just how do you want to go about fixing the
problem? I wqant to stop the racist welfare programs and force the people to
assume responsibility for their own welfare. But I don't know how to do
this. I think a good start woulde be to eliminate the voting process and
pick our leaders by Lotto selection from the voting pblc. IOW, I think the
ability to buy votes by advertising in the same way you sell soap is the
root of the problem. As long as we can buy ads from Madison Avenue to get
elected, the corruption will grow and we will be run by a bunch of rich,
crooked lawyers. The only way to get our government back in the hands of the
people is to select them directly from those people.
y message is: Voting doesn't work. When the founding fathers conceived of
this democracy, only rich land owners could vote. They never thought that
the masses would be allowed to vote, and they couldn't (of course) conceive
of the vase TV ad network we have tody to buy those votes. It turns out that
that vase TV network is going to be the undoing of the democracy process.
Its killing us. I am just looking for some way out.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
> > as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>
> > Kady
>

> Bwahahahahahahaha!  Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."

>   Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>

> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government

> regulations, no government taxes, no government.  The rightard paradise.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! So, tell us. How long before Hussein
rides in on his white and "fixes" the "crisis" caused by the failing
of so many private insurance companies that are FORCED to insure
anybody with a pre-existing condition or never bothered to buy health
insurance until they were dieing with cancer? Dear Leader will FINALLY
get his cherished "single payer" plan.

Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet why not
let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable??

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 12:27 pm, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> I support Economic Freedom, Competition and Capitalism, you do
not.
>
>> -Ramon

> But the Republican Party supports those things.
> At least they do on paper.

No, they don't. Half does.

The PRO-business folks are in the top car, while the racist (we don't
know the percentage, as we cannot read minds) are in the ANTI-business
car:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/GOP-Stake.gif
(Note: The donkey and the business folks are in 99% agreement)

Not coincidentally, the branch of hatred is always drawn at the bottom
of the page:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Second-Wing.jpg

-Ramon

ps: See some hateful, anti-business rhetoric:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/us/politics/immigration-talk-turns-off-some-hispanics.html

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 12:39 pm, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> How am I "smearing my own party principles"? I believe in individual

> responsibility, and don't want the government to put people on the dole and

> steal from those who have to give to the bums. That is the way I was
> raised by a very Republican father. Tell me where I have stated otherwise,

> either on this forum or elsewhere. I worked and saved and invested in

> American business all of my life. I respect people who do that and don't
> live off the government. In my experience the Latino community does exactly

> that. They come here to have a better life, and they work like hell for it.
> It's the hippie bums living down under the freeway underpasses that are
> happy living off the government hand-outs. These are the ones I would like
> to see shipped out to Mexico. (or anywhere else other than here) Why is this
> a reversal of my Republican principles?

========= Bil Graham 4 Prez!!!! =========

========= Viva Bill Graham!!!!! =========

Votemos todos por Bill!!!

-Ramon

[deadrat]

On 7/23/12 11:29 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

<snip/>

>
>> On 7/17/2012 12:58 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>
>> On Jul 17, 1:58 am, "Bill Gaffney" <bgaff...@earthlink.nut> wrote:
>> > Maybe Obama got his "degree" the same way Martin Luther King did.
>> > He plagiarized his work.
>
>> Then you wonder why Blacks and Latino folks (plus Asians, Jews, Gays)
>> stick together against your hatred.
>
>> -Ramon
>
>> We know why they stick together. They butt fuck each other. Besides,
>> they are incompetent and uneducated parasites. They stick together to
>> suck the life out of America.
>

> Dead on the money. Exactly right.
>
> -Eddioe haskell

How long have you had this unhealthy fascination with anal sex?

[First.Post]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:

>On Jul 23, 9:50�am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>> On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>>
>> �> We gotta have another war, folks.
>>
>> > Bring it on!!!
>> >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>> > My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>>
>> "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>>
>> "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
>> concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>>
>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of mankind,
>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>

>Canada.
>
>-Ramon

Your apparent glee over the thought of dragging this nation down to
being the same low level third world shithole as Mexico demonstrates a
seriously fucked up mentality.
Your attitude of fuck everyone else, I'm gonna get mine is the same as
we see in the ghettos and slums across America. Guess that's the
environment you're used to.
But I really would like to see all of you idiots try to go have a life
in Canada. If all of the illegal and legal Mexicans alone were to
decide to go there it would effectively double their population. Good
luck trying to leech a living for around 40 million additional welfare
suckers in a nation of only 37 million. Canada would be bankrupt
within 6 months.

[First.Post]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:09:40 -0500, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com>
wrote:

>

>"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

>news:508d3a89-f709-4e84...@z11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

>On Jul 23, 9:50 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in
>> messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>>
>> > We gotta have another war, folks.
>>
>> > Bring it on!!!
>> >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>> > My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>>
>> "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>>
>> "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
>> concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>>
>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>> mankind,
>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>

>> Actually, the sons of Pedro the indocumentado (so-called anchor
>> babies) will be courting and impregnating your daughters, therefore
>> your brown grandchildren will be getting:
>
>> - Your Money
>> - Your House
>> - Your Brains
>
>My daughters wouldn't touch one of you little pigmy fuckers. Now, answer the
>question, you sniveling third-world inferior. Where do you plan on living
>after you have turned the greatest nation in the history of mankind into a
>bombed out third-world ass hole?
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
Just like liberals and their dreams of a socialist utopia, Ramon
believes that when the smoke clears that he'd be one of the elite left
standing on top of the heap.
Stupid asshole will end up learning the same hard lesson as the
Bolsheviks did after placing Stalin in power. They ended up still
living in shit and being shot or sent off to the gulags if they
complained.
Such is the world stupid fucks like Ramon long for.

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 12:31 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 12:08 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Liar. I never said anything about immigration.
> > You don't know my position.
>
> You said: "I don't necessarily do everything the US Chamber tells me
> to do" - Or words to that effect.
>
> Do you agree with US businesses (and churches) on immigration???

Depends on the specific issue. US business supports policies that are
best for US business, which is usually (but not always) what's best for
the nation either in the short or long terms. When they conflict, I tend
to look for balance which gives business what they NEED (as opposed to
what they WANT) and looks out for the best interests of the nation.

Churches have different agendas entirely.

Kady

>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> For the 112th Congress (2011), the Chamber will:
>

> � Continue to push for comprehensive immigration reform that:

> increases security; has an earned pathway to legalization for
> undocumented workers already contributing to our economy, provided
> that they are law-abiding and prepared to embrace the obligations and
> values of our society
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> The U.S. Chamber�s Plan for Immigration Reform

> Immigration Policy Priorities for 2012
>

> � Immigration reform should accomplish the following goals: provide a

> pathway to legal status for undocumented workers currently in the
> United States.
>
> http://www.uschamber.com/issues/immigration
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> and, for those Far Righties who despise Big Business, this is the
> official position of Medium and Small Businesses:
>
> http://www.immigrationworksusa.org/
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Then, this is the position of Fortune, The Economist, etc.
>
> http://www.renewoureconomy.org
> http://www.renewoureconomy.org/sites/all/themes/pnae/img/membership.pdf
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I sincerely hope that my fellow believers in Free Enterprise among the
> readership support the position on immigration and lobbying by the US
> Chamber of Commerce.
>
> -Ramon
>
> ps:
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> U.S. Chamber of Commerce Statement on Comprehensive Immigration Reform
>
> There is no question that the U.S. immigration system is broken. There
> are an estimated 10-12 million undocumented migrants in the United
> States, and deporting them would be the equivalent of removing the

> population of the state of Ohio � not a realistic option. As a

[First.Post]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:07:49 -0500, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com>

wrote:

>
>"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message

>news:ea17a126-9a84-490e...@k13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

>On Jul 23, 10:29 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in

>> messagenews:692ce5f7-8a3b-485d...@o7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

>> On Jul 23, 9:50 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in
>> > messagenews:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > We gotta have another war, folks.
>>
>> > > Bring it on!!!
>> > >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>> > > My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>>
>> > "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>>
>> > "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
>> > concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>>
>> > You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan
>> > on
>> > living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>> > mankind,
>> > you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>
>> > -Eddie Haskell

>> > Canada.
>>
>> Oh, so after you wipe your ass on America and run it into the ground
>> you're
>> going move on the Canada and destroy their country. Where do you plan on
>> living after that?
>
>> Australia.
>
>You won't have the money to get there, and they sure as hell wouldn't let
>you in anyway. So it looks like your condemned to living in the shit you
>create. Why do you want to live in shit?
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
>
>
Indeed. How the hell does the dumb son of a bitch expect to just
sneak into Australia?
Ever been down under? You don't just waltz into Australia illegally
and get away with it. There isn;t any just sneaking acroiss the
border. Customs is right there as folks get off their boat or plane.
There is no avoiding Australian Customs.
Ramon's knowledge in how the world actually works has quite a bit to
be desired yes?

[Eddie Haskell]

"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:MoGdnTwBF7-mEpDN...@giganews.com...

Ludicrous, TV ads are free speech and nothing compared to an entire MSM that
is in the tank for one party. Without those ads republicans wouldn't even
have a voice except for Fox and talk radio, and the only thing most people
know about that is what the left tells them. THAT is what is killing us,
otherwise Hussein and a host of democrats would have never been elected. It
also covers for the democrats so that they get to say or do virtually
anything they please and are never held accountable. That's why they're so
corrupt.

-Eddie Haskell

[First.Post]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:25:51 -0500, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:

>On 7/23/12 10:20 AM, kady wrote:

>> On 07/23/2012 09:50 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
>>> news:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5...@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > We gotta have another war, folks.
>>>
>>>> Bring it on!!!
>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>>>
>>>> My granny can kick you rosy bottom.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Texas demographer: 'It's basically over for America"
>>>
>>> "Looking at population projections for Texas, demographer Steve Murdock
>>> concludes: "It's basically over for America."
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf
>>>
>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>> mankind,
>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>

>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>
>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>
>> What happens?
>>
>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>
>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>>
>> Kady
>
>Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>
>Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>

The simplicity in your thinking shows you to be below a 1st grader in
your cognitve skills.
Your exstremist answer demonstrates perfectly that you don't have a
clue as to what you're talking about.
Name a single conservative that has ever said they wanted none of the
above you stupid fuck.
Smaller government and less taxes equate to none at all in your feeble
little brain does it?
That shows you to be just plain stupid.

[deadrat]

On 7/23/12 12:07 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
> news:kOCdnSns4-ON5pDN...@giganews.com...

> Gee, how the hell can that be with Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP and the myriad
> of other government programs and free medical malls dotting the landscape?

Free medical malls?

> Are all your programs utter fucking failures?

No, these programs are fairly successful in delivering medical care.
The costs are rising faster than inflation and thus aren't sustainable,
but that's a different problem.

> Could it be that these
> programs are mostly responsible for the skyrocketing costs?

I doubt it, but I could be convinced by evidence. Do you have any?

> And what will
> Husseincare do about costs? Answer: Nothing but higher premiums, less access
> rationing and death panels.

No one really knows what will happen, but we've already got higher
premiums every year. Except in Massachusetts, which has Romneycare and
which just announced its second annual drop in premiums. And we already
have access rationing. The latter is just done by insurance company
bureaucrats. "Death panels" are just part of your fever dreams. The
ACA was written specifically so that no government agency makes medical
decisions.

> Let's try it this way, shit-fer-brains. What would happen to price of food
> if instead of food stamps we merely had the grocer send the bill on to the
> government?

Oh, look! An ignoramus calls me names. Can't argue with logic like yours.

Let's not try it that way, since such a hypothetical bears no
relationship to the current health insurance reforms. Didja make that
one up yourself, or was it something someone told you and you just
didn't bother to think it through?
>
> He won't get it, folks. He's a democrat and therefore too stupid. Not one
> clue how economics works.

Oh, look! An ignoramus think I don't understand how health insurance works.

>
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>

> Somalia is a shit hole for the same reason all Negro nations, towns and
> cities are bombed out shit holes. Stupid backward and immoral. That's why
> they vote 90% democrat.

Well, Sparky, the Democratic Party doesn't operate in Somalia, but I
can't understand why you think it's a shit hole. It's the rightard
economic paradise, isn't it? No pesky government to get in the way.
>
> Thanks for your fuckwitted DNC talking point though.

The DNC isn't really concerned with Somalia, the inevitable paradise of
rightard economics: the less government, the better. Right?

> -Eddie Haskell
>

[Eddie Haskell]

"deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message

news:pISdncVQM8R0DJDN...@giganews.com...

Ever since your old lady asked me to be her back door man.

Eat cho chicken, eat yor pork-n-beans.

I eat more chicken any man ever seen..

Yeah!

-Eddie Haskell

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 12:40 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
> these days.
> >
> > Kady
>
> I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA,

You'll have to ask those who say such things. Contrary to your
objections, there are those that DO support open borders (although
they're very good at couching such positions), and they are funded by
well known leftist sources.

http://www.immigrantsolidarity.org/

Who support:

1. No to anti-immigrant legislation, police surveillance and the
criminalization of the immigrant communities.
2. No to militarization of the border.
3. No to the private prison, immigrant detention and deportation.
4. No to the guest worker program.
5. No to the NDAA.
6. Yes to a path to legalization without condition for undocumented
immigrants NOW.
7. Yes to speedy family reunification.
8. Yes to civil rights and humane immigration law.
9. Yes to labor rights and living wages for all workers.
10. Yes to the education and LGBTQ immigrant legislation.

Add that up, and you have a difference without distinction. The net
result is an open border.

Kady

[First.Post]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:37:15 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:

>On Jul 23, 11:33�am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>
> > Hussein and the democrats are destroying America
> > and you support them 70%. That's all anyone needs to know.
>
>Simple: YOUR definition of "America" is different from mine and most
>Americans (the good people, God bless them!).
>
>YOU are on you way OUT. America will be the better for it.
>
>-Ramon
>
>ps: Kady? Hello? You were backing up Mr. Haskell... Hola?????

Without people like us just how do you expect to leech off of the
taxpayer since there will end up being very few taxpayers left after
you're through with your destruction?
Most Americans? "Good people"? Bullshit. If you thought that way in
reality you wouldn't be here every day bragging of how much your ilk
are fucking those same people in the ass.
Not only are you a lowlife in general, you're also a bald faced
goddamned lying son of a bitch.

[First.Post]

Before Obamacare a retired military veteran had to pay around $600 a
year in insurance premiums.
Now those same vets will see their premiums rise to over $2,200 a
year.
But assholes like "deadrat" and Ramon likely are in love with that
thought since they want the military disbanded completely.

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message

news:8acca1a0-ebad-4e24...@k13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 23, 12:37 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in
> messagenews:28907957-596a-4552...@p1g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 23, 11:00 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
> > No, you get the black and Hispanic
> > vote by promising them government goodies
>
> > Can't speak for my Black amigos, but we Latinos are not asking for
> > freebies. Just a few green cards (*).
> > They will make their millions on their own, thank you very much.
> > To bad you don't even understand, let alone believe in capitalism.
>

> If any of that were true you'd be a republican.
> You vote democrat for freebies.

> All I am getting is a free sticker: "I love Obamacare" - That's it.

Why don't you get one that says "I'm an idiot" and just get it over with?

> See actual reason below...

> One wonders: Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and
> distilled?

> The only ones qualified to make a statement are the victims of
> prejudice, persecution and racism themselves.

Nice excuse lie for voting for freebies.

> Let's ask them, shall
> we?

> Here's their response:

> - Black folks voted for Obama, by a 98% margin.

Low IQ and vote for freebies like I said.

"I'll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years."

-Lyndon Johnson

Decades later illegitimacy has destroyed the black family and community. The
Negro response? Vote for more self destruction having been addicted to
freebies. Democrats are like a crack dealer praying on kids at a school. Why
do you support that? Oh, yeah, third-world and corrupted by freebies
yourself.

> - Jewish folks voted for Obama, by a 75% margin.

Corrupt and vote self interest. Trial lawyers and the like..

> - Hispanic folks voted for Obama, by a 66% margin.

Low IQ and vote for freebies like I said. See above.

> - Asian folks voted for Obama, by a 63% margin.

Don't know any better.

> - Gay folks voted for Obama, by an unknown margin.

Single issue vote without regard for America or civilization itself.

> -Ramon

> ps: Oh, I almost forgot the largest minority of all:

> http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/GOP-Hates-Women-and-Feeling-is-Mutual.jpg

Thanks to the fascist MSM / DNC cabal's invented "war on women" to cover for
the democrat's war on religious liberty.

So see? You celebrate the success of fascist lies, a war on religious
liberty and the rule of law and then wonder why everything you control turns
into total shit. It's because you are third-world and unfit to be an
American.

Thanks for the demonstration

-Eddie Haskell

[deadrat]

> they always vote democrat 90%. Why? <snip/>

How about you look in the mirror?

>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 1:16 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Do you agree with US businesses (and churches) on immigration???
> Depends on the specific issue.

All you had to do was scroll down, to see the specific issue. Please
try again.

Fact:

- All US businesses
- All US churches
- Rupert Murdoch and his gang

Are close allies, on immigration

From the ECONOMIC point of view, there is no possible discussion and
the issue is settled. The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).

-Ramon

(*) Another possible reason for the rejection would be an extreme law-
and-order type of conservatives whose position has NOTHING to do with
race. I am told such mythical animal exists ... have yet to meet the
first one. Take The Phantom: For a few weeks he swore he was not
racist but his true nature betrayed him. I have seen LOTS of people
like him: eventually they explode, their hatred cannot be contained.
API regulars are a perfect example.

[Eddie Haskell]

"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:x6ydnc_wjb2kEZDN...@giganews.com...

You smeared the tea party.

Now, dance chicken boy. Dance!

-Eddie Haskell

[First.Post]

What freebies do you think any of us have ever voted for dumbass?
Just because that's all you look for in a candidate just like you look
for the best bargains at the dollar store doesn't mean that everyone
is only looking out for their own greedy self interests.


>
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message

news:1151ec51-7038-4675...@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

We speak English in this country, you un-American wet back.

-Eddie Haskell

[Eddie Haskell]

"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>

wrote in message
news:14dcde83-ba2d-4b0b...@o7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

Bingo. You nailed it. That's the plan. Drive the cost of insurance through
the roof with all of their stupid mandates that will have the public
clamoring for the public option that will put private insurance out of
business.

> Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet why not
> let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable??

You're trying to get him to think with a rhetorical question.

Won't work.

-Eddie Haskell

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 1:23 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/23/2012 12:40 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   > Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
> > these days.
>
> >   > Kady
>
> > I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA,
>

> You'll have to ask those who say such things. Contrary to your
> objections, there are those that DO support open borders (although
> they're very good at couching such positions)

If there is a couple dozen, they may be SAFELY ignored as the
political power they hold is ZERO. Listen to the Chambers, listen to
the Churches, listen to Bloomberg+Murdoch, listen to the White House.

Care to produce a cite that unequivocally supports open borders?

Note: Number (2) happens to be unconstitutional. No need to reject it:

2. No to militarization of the border.

The only problem I have is number 6:

(6) Yes to a path to legalization without condition for undocumented
immigrants NOW.

They must be on drugs or something. In any event, THIS is THE official
Hispanic group:

http://www.nclr.org/

-Ramon

[Eddie Haskell]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message

news:fe4dc21d-6755-425a...@i8g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
these days.
>
> Kady

> I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA, then.

> (1) NOBODY supports open borders.

Hahahahaha!! Of course they do. Democrats do. Stop lying like a third-world
Hispanic.

> (2) NOBODY supports illegal immigration.

Hahahahaha!! Of course they do. Democrats do. Stop lying like a third-world
Hispanic.

> (3) NOBODY is asking for amnesty.

Hahahahaha!! Of course they are. Illegals are. Stop lying like a third-world
Hispanic.

> (4) NOBODY is offering for amnesty.

Hahahahaha!! Of course they are. Hussein himself did it when he abolished
congress and issued it from on high like a third world dictator. That's how
he increased his popularity among Hispanics. He took the constitution and
wiped his ass on it. That's how you get the third-world vote. You turn the
nation that they are living in into the third world. It's a mentality and it
can't be educated out of you. That's why you are unfit to be an American.

-Eddie Haskell

[deadrat]

On 7/23/12 12:19 PM, kady wrote:

> On 07/23/2012 11:25 AM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 7/23/12 10:20 AM, kady wrote:
>>> On 07/23/2012 09:50 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:

>>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message

> A rating of free markets requires people who understand free markets.

Bwahahahahaha! Stop it, please. I can't catch my breath. Why do you
support the people who pick your pockets?

>
>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>

> There are over 40 different variables; why individuals declare
> bankruptcy isn't one of them. We get docked because of regulation,
> obstacles to business startup, and tax system irregularities that
> decrease efficiency.

Your blather is noted. The leading cause of bankruptcy in this country
is medical bills.

>>
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>

> And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
> can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
> lawless state.

Somalia is the #1 "market-oriented" economy in the world. Not a
government regulation or tax in sight. The ultimate rightard paradise.

Own it.

>
> Pitiful.
>
> Kady
>
>
>

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 01:32 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:16 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Do you agree with US businesses (and churches) on immigration???
> > Depends on the specific issue.
>
> All you had to do was scroll down, to see the specific issue. Please
> try again.

I did. Which one did you want to talk about? Or, are you just trying to
be an asshole?

>
> Fact:
>
> - All US businesses
> - All US churches
> - Rupert Murdoch and his gang
>
> Are close allies, on immigration
>
> From the ECONOMIC point of view, there is no possible discussion and
> the issue is settled.
The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
> reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).

Illogical.

Kady

[deadrat]

On 7/23/12 12:34 PM, kady wrote:
> On 07/23/2012 12:28 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "kady" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8yfPr.208037$xK2.1...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 07/23/2012 11:24 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:

>>>> On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
>>>> > grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
>>>> > economic freedom:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>>>> >
>>>> > Kady
>>>>

>>>> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
>>>> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
>>>> Churches).

>>>
>>> Liar. I never said anything about immigration. You don't know my
>>> position.
>>

>> You're against illegal immigration which means that in fascist
>> democrat-ese
>> you are a racist and are against immigration.
>
> Correct, I suppose.

Of course, that's what you suppose. You're an ignoramus.

> Anything other than open borders is racism, these days.

How about equating other races and ethnicities with immorality, mental
deficiency, etc? Not to mention an unhealthy fascination with their
anal sexual proclivities?

<snip/>

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 01:43 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:23 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 12:40 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
>>> these days.
>>
>>> > Kady
>>
>>> I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA,
>>
>
> > You'll have to ask those who say such things. Contrary to your
> > objections, there are those that DO support open borders (although
> > they're very good at couching such positions)
>
> If there is a couple dozen, they may be SAFELY ignored as the
> political power they hold is ZERO.

Hopefully that's correct.

Kady

[deadrat]

On 7/23/12 12:10 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E wrote:

>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom
>>
>>> Kady
>>

>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."

>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>>

>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government

>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! So, tell us. How long before Hussein
> rides in on his white and "fixes" the "crisis" caused by the failing
> of so many private insurance companies that are FORCED to insure
> anybody with a pre-existing condition or never bothered to buy health
> insurance until they were dieing with cancer? Dear Leader will FINALLY
> get his cherished "single payer" plan.

Uh, Sparky? Insurance companies are salivating over the ACA rules. The
individual mandate will open up a huge market of healthy people to
insure, more than enough to cover people with pre-existing conditions.
Right now private insurers are faced with rising costs, which causes
them to raise premiums, which causes the healthy to gamble on not paying
for insurance, which shrinks their pool of insured to those more likely
to get sick, which raises their costs, .... Well, you get the idea. At
least you could, if you could think straight.
>
> Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet?

Based on results, like say, infant mortality, we don't have the best
healthcare system in the world.

> why not
> let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable?

Wouldn't that be socialism?

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 8:08 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> In California, the Republican Party is dying a slow, sad death - But
> there is something to celebrate!!
>
> ... Arizona is next, followed by Texas (the crown jewel)
>

> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/23/us/politics/california-republicans-...http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/california

>
> -Ramon
>
> "Revenge is a dish better served in the voting booth" -Moihttp://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif

Meanwhile, as one group dies a new one is born:

http://tinyurl.com/8y8b7o6

http://galleries.forbes.com/gallery/2012_Highest_Paid_TV_Actresses

The cycle of life continues unimpeded.

-Ramon

[kady]

Never do. I support the people who pay my salary and enable my family to
live a very nice lifestyle.

Who do *you* support, if not them?

>>
>>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>>
>> There are over 40 different variables; why individuals declare
>> bankruptcy isn't one of them. We get docked because of regulation,
>> obstacles to business startup, and tax system irregularities that
>> decrease efficiency.
>
> Your blather is noted. The leading cause of bankruptcy in this country
> is medical bills.

Never said it wasn't. You're the one who changed the subject to personal
bankruptcy, so don't whine if I don't play along.

>>>
>>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>>
>> And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
>> can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
>> lawless state.
>
> Somalia is the #1 "market-oriented" economy in the world. Not a
> government regulation or tax in sight. The ultimate rightard paradise.

> Own it.

Own what? The fact that you know so little about free market economics
that you confuse it with a failed state? :-)

Kady


>
>>
>> Pitiful.
>>
>> Kady
>>
>>
>>
>

[deadrat]

As irony meters explode everywhere. Not mine, of course. It's mil-spec.

> Your exstremist answer demonstrates perfectly that you don't have a
> clue as to what you're talking about

Well, at least I can go a couple of posts without talking about anal sex.

.
> Name a single conservative that has ever said they wanted none of the
> above you stupid fuck.

Name one who hasn't.

> Smaller government and less taxes equate to none at all in your feeble
> little brain does it?
> That shows you to be just plain stupid.

Oh, look! An ignoramus calls me stupid.

When are you leaving for Somalia, the rightard economic paradise? I
think that's what's called "win-win." You're obviously so unhappy here.
And as for everybody else, ....

[kady]

Never do, in that I'm not exactly a "approved majority" myself.

Why would those things even enter your mind?

Kady
>
> <snip/>

[deadrat]

On 7/23/12 1:22 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
> news:pISdncVQM8R0DJDN...@giganews.com...
>> On 7/23/12 11:29 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
>> <snip/>
>>
>>>
>>>> On 7/17/2012 12:58 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 1:58 am, "Bill Gaffney" <bgaff...@earthlink.nut> wrote:
>>>> > Maybe Obama got his "degree" the same way Martin Luther King did.
>>>> > He plagiarized his work.
>>>
>>>> Then you wonder why Blacks and Latino folks (plus Asians, Jews, Gays)
>>>> stick together against your hatred.
>>>
>>>> -Ramon
>>>
>>>> We know why they stick together. They butt fuck each other. Besides,
>>>> they are incompetent and uneducated parasites. They stick together to
>>>> suck the life out of America.
>>>
>>> Dead on the money. Exactly right.
>>>
>>> -Eddioe haskell
>>
>> How long have you had this unhealthy fascination with anal sex?
>
> Ever since your old lady asked me to be her back door man.

Can't stop talkin' about it, eh? Why is that?

>
> Eat cho chicken, eat yor pork-n-beans.
>
> I eat more chicken any man ever seen..
>
> Yeah!

Hey! The Doors. How old are you?
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 23, 1:55 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
> reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).
>
> Illogical.
>

See one of my top copy&pastes below. Then read the posts by Mr.
Haskell, Phantom, azjohn, etc. Surf around the Internet. Check who
finances their groups.

Haven't you realized that the number of ads in the anti-immigrant
(illegal, whatever) sites is ZERO?

https://www.numbersusa.com/
http://www.fairus.org/
http://www.jbs.org/
http://www.vdare.com/
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
http://www.cis.org/

Why? Because no self-respecting US company would associate themselves
with purveyors of hatred.

Meanwhile, how many businesses on MY side would you like me to post?
29+ million enough?

-Ramon

--------------------------------
From a Washington Post thread:

j3hess
3:09 PM CDT

If the immigration issue was only economic and the discussion was
rational, we would have had a fix back when president G.W. Bush
proposed it.

But the vitriol suggests this isn't an economic issue, it is a purity
issue. It is about dark-skinned unclean lower-class people sullying
our white middle-class society. (This is why Asians get to be white -
the ones who make it here these days are middle/professional/business
class.)

This is NOT to say that everyone concerned about immigration is
racist. But this is where a lot of the heat comes from. This is why
immigrants are accused of committing disproportional amounts of crime.
Since it is socially unacceptable to be outwardly racist, the springs
of residual racism find another outlet.

[deadrat]

Private insurers are driving up the cost of insurance now. They love
the mandates.

Try again.

>
>> Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet why not
>> let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable??
>
> You're trying to get him to think with a rhetorical question.
>
> Won't work.

Irrationality and ignorance rarely do. They're still popular, though.
At least judging by your posts.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>

[kady]

On 07/23/2012 02:14 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:55 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
> > reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).
> >
> > Illogical.
> >
>
> See one of my top copy&pastes below. Then read the posts by Mr.
> Haskell, Phantom, azjohn, etc. Surf around the Internet. Check who
> finances their groups.

Too much work. Get to the point.

Kady

[deadrat]

Well, we're in violent agreement. Maybe that means we don't have the
greatest healthcare system in the world.

> You're the one who changed the subject to personal
> bankruptcy, so don't whine if I don't play along.

I don't mind if you can't follow along. That's your problem.

>>>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>>>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard
>>>> paradise.
>>>
>>> And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
>>> can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
>>> lawless state.
>>
>> Somalia is the #1 "market-oriented" economy in the world. Not a
>> government regulation or tax in sight. The ultimate rightard paradise.
>
>> Own it.
>
> Own what? The fact that you know so little about free market economics
> that you confuse it with a failed state? :-)

Oh, dear! An emoticon, the refuge of those that can't write clearly.

When are you leaving for Somalia, the rightard economic paradise? It's
such a bummer for you here.

>
> Kady
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Pitiful.
>>>
>>> Kady
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Eddie Haskell]

"deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message

news:rqGdncgTLpGdC5DN...@giganews.com...

> On 7/23/12 12:07 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message

>> news:kOCdnSns4-ON5pDN...@giganews.com...

>>> Do
>>> you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>>> bankruptcy
>>> here is medical bills?
>>

>> Gee, how the hell can that be with Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP and the
>> myriad
>> of other government programs and free medical malls dotting the
>> landscape?
>
> Free medical malls?

Groan..

>> Are all your programs utter fucking failures?
>
> No, these programs are fairly successful in delivering medical care. The
> costs are rising faster than inflation and thus aren't sustainable, but
> that's a different problem.

No it isn't. The way these programs have been set up to run has been the
major contributor to raising costs.

>> Could it be that these
>> programs are mostly responsible for the skyrocketing costs?
>
> I doubt it, but I could be convinced by evidence. Do you have any?

There is no incentive for anyone to shop price. Ever notice how procedures
not covered by any form of insurance like lasik surgery gets cheaper, better
and more available?

>> And what will
>> Husseincare do about costs? Answer: Nothing but higher premiums, less
>> access
>> rationing and death panels.
>
> No one really knows what will happen,

Oh, yes the hell we do. Just because you don't doesn't mean that the rest of
us are as stupid.

> but we've already got higher premiums every year.

They'll be even higher thanks to all the new mandates.

> Except in Massachusetts, which has Romneycare and which just announced its
> second annual drop in premiums.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v30n1/cpr30n1-1.html

> And we already have access rationing. The latter is just done by
> insurance company bureaucrats.

Medicare denies more coverage than any private insurance company, and with
private insurance their is legal recourse. After full implementation of
Husseincare there will be none and you will be completely at the mercy of
government.

> "Death panels" are just part of your fever dreams. The ACA was written
> specifically so that no government agency makes medical decisions.

April 13, 2011 - The deficit-reduction plan unveiled by President Barack
Obama today strengthens a cost-control tool in healthcare reform that
organized medicine fears.

The savings mechanism is the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB).
Under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), the IPAB will advise Congress on ways
to curb the per capita growth of Medicare spending if it exceeds growth-rate
targets set by the law.

If it does not implement IPAB recommendations, Congress must enact policies
that save just as much, or else let the Department of Health and Human
Services make the cuts.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/740830

Krugman explains:

"About that advisory board: We have to do something about health care costs,
which means that we have to find a way to start saying no. "

http://blogs.forbes.com/davidwhelan/2011/04/22/paul-krugman-reveals-his-hierarchy-of-medicine-patients-doctors-washington/

Hussein explains that Husseincare's cost cutting remedy is to deny seniors
vital procedures when deemed too old or unworthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

>> Let's try it this way, shit-fer-brains. What would happen to price of
>> food
>> if instead of food stamps we merely had the grocer send the bill on to
>> the
>> government?
>
> Oh, look! An ignoramus calls me names. Can't argue with logic like
> yours.
>
> Let's not try it that way, since such a hypothetical bears no relationship
> to the current health insurance reforms. Didja make that one up yourself,
> or was it something someone told you and you just didn't bother to think
> it through?

Can't answer the question, can you shit-fer-brains? Try again. What would
happen to the price of food if we handled doling it out to the poor the same
way we do healthcare?

Hint: It would skyrocket.

Why? No one would shop price.

>> He won't get it, folks. He's a democrat and therefore too stupid. Not one
>> clue how economics works.
>
> Oh, look! An ignoramus think I don't understand how health insurance
> works.

You don't understand how insurance or the economy works.

>>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>>

>> Somalia is a shit hole for the same reason all Negro nations, towns and
>> cities are bombed out shit holes. Stupid backward and immoral. That's why
>> they vote 90% democrat.
>
> Well, Sparky, the Democratic Party doesn't operate in Somalia, but I can't
> understand why you think it's a shit hole. It's the rightard economic
> paradise, isn't it? No pesky government to get in the way.

DNC tactic #24. When cornered, claim that conservatives are for no
government.

>> Thanks for your fuckwitted DNC talking point though.
>
> The DNC isn't really concerned with Somalia, the inevitable paradise of
> rightard economics: the less government, the better. Right?

The problem with Somalia is not lack of government, but the fact that it's
full of third-world morons like Hussein and his supporters, and if we stay
on the path they have put us on we will become Somalia. That's a fact.

Hussein is destroying our economy, the rule of law, and our civil society in
the exact same way tin horn dictators the world over come to power.
Appealing to base envy, class warfare and promises of wealth distribution.
Then of course, the people starve.

-Eddie Haskell